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所以我認為\n247759\t247979\t﹚陳亭妃\n266209\t266509\t主席\n285789\t307692\t這才是重要所以我利用今天的質詢把我們地方的期待把我們地方的需求然後跟主委報告希望主委可以幫我們轉達能夠幫我們在討論如果真的有機會做這樣的一個AI研發中心的時候要把台南變成首要的\n308632\t336861\t一些我們的決定的地理位置這個才是我們需要我們主委來幫忙那另外一個部分是我們現在有很多中小企業的智慧轉型的計畫由中央來協助可是這些其實主委你看過之後你是來行人你看過之後這都是在教育的部分\n337987\t365538\t並沒有全面我們在協助中小企業智慧轉型不能只有focus在教育這個區塊我們應該的是全面性對不對對中小企業的智慧轉型不是只有教育所以我們在問的是我們到底國發會如果你要協助中小企業智慧轉型這個計畫你們是整合人\n366823\t388391\t你們整合各部會你們是不是應該整合得更為精進更為提升而不是單向反正有在做就好了教育部有在做你也把他納入說這是我的智慧轉型不是那麼簡單的中小企業的智慧轉型不是只有在教育這個區塊\n391446\t413504\t這兩個是差很多對不對主委是不是是的你剛看到這個計畫我們去調了說台南市協助就是我們中央的預算來協助台南市那台南市來協助中小企業智慧轉型的一些相關的計畫名稱計畫內容我們調出來的居然是這些居然是這些\n417423\t420808\t主委你看完你內行,你看完之後有什麼想法?\n421766\t424767\t對阿這個是我們喔用我們協助中小企業智慧轉型這樣的名稱下去調的資料就調到這幾個\n453420\t480976\t這幾個幾乎都是在教育的區塊比較多所以這不是智慧轉型不是智慧轉型有很多方向可是你要把它區分什麼是教育什麼是中小企業什麼區塊每一個區塊其實是不一樣表示智慧轉型現在是已經是重中之重了可是你不能是好像反正有在做就好了\n481937\t483018\t這個部分會讓大家覺得到底什麼是智慧轉型?\n497816\t506302\t指揮轉型的精神是什麼會亂掉所以我是用這個來提醒再來就是說這個再請我們主委你這個會後再給我們一個報告就是說\n514148\t537984\t我們國發會如何協助我們的賴總統打造五大信賴產業半導體產業、人工智慧產業、軍工產業、安控產業、通訊產業這五大信賴產業我們打算怎麼做國發會打算怎麼幫忙協助打造然後我的區塊在哪裡\n538865\t540485\t我需要這些資料再麻煩一個月拜託一個月好謝謝\n570299\t571186\t謝謝!\n","txt":"陳亭妃委員請做詢談。謝謝。召委我們請主委。我們再請主委。\n主委好主委好主委我想現在我們希望現在一直在期待有一個AI的研發中心是那這個有沒有可能在台南\n來協助這樣的一個AI研發中心來帶動地方的產業鏈智慧化的升級轉型其實大家知道應該主委因為你產業界過來的你知道很多的隱形產業就是在台南對所以基本上他們從過去靠著自己然後一路走到現在現在都面臨一個必須轉型的時間關鍵點了\n因為我們要跟世界接軌現在AI是非常重要的而且我們怎麼將傳統改變轉型也是一個大工程\n所以我覺得這個部分如果能夠協助在台南爭取一個新建我們的AI研發中心協助這些傳產協助我們這些中小企業地方產業能夠把智慧化的升級我相信這非常重要\n主委你認為呢?這個我想整個AI的發展覺得是我們重中之重那我這個設計整個我們現在是這樣會先設計裡面的內容然後之後我們至於它會變成虛擬化還是或是一個實際地點這個還要跟速發部的討論那我們今天下午會討論我想會把委員的看法也會也會轉達給那個部長\n因為現在這個研發中心我想這個有這樣的傳言說我們的黃仁勛黃總裁這個等我們臺南之光了這個江建瀨總統要希望在這個研發中心的地點可以從高雄跟臺南去二選一來打造臺灣的AI島是有這樣的傳言\n這個傳言我不清楚不清楚現在大家都很期待所以我會今天在這個質詢當中提出這樣的一個看法就是說如果真的在整個研發中心AI的研發中心如果要真的從高雄跟台南去二則一台南其實最適當因為他現在\n主委你認為呢?\n我想委員講得很有道理啦,我會轉達我們可能一起整體讓大家會特別也參考,我想台南一定是在選項之一啦,我們來努力看看。\n因為我相信土地一定沒有問題嘛 這個AI的研發中心土地一定是最首要之重嘛 沒土地就不用說了嘛 台南土地一定沒問題嘛 台南看你要選在哪裡我們一定全力支持嘛 然後再來我們也有一些所謂的相關的不斷電資訊的處理系統的一個電力供給 這也都是我們在進行當中 所以我認為\n﹚陳亭妃\n主席\n這才是重要所以我利用今天的質詢把我們地方的期待把我們地方的需求然後跟主委報告希望主委可以幫我們轉達能夠幫我們在討論如果真的有機會做這樣的一個AI研發中心的時候要把台南變成首要的\n一些我們的決定的地理位置這個才是我們需要我們主委來幫忙那另外一個部分是我們現在有很多中小企業的智慧轉型的計畫由中央來協助可是這些其實主委你看過之後你是來行人你看過之後這都是在教育的部分\n並沒有全面我們在協助中小企業智慧轉型不能只有focus在教育這個區塊我們應該的是全面性對不對對中小企業的智慧轉型不是只有教育所以我們在問的是我們到底國發會如果你要協助中小企業智慧轉型這個計畫你們是整合人\n你們整合各部會你們是不是應該整合得更為精進更為提升而不是單向反正有在做就好了教育部有在做你也把他納入說這是我的智慧轉型不是那麼簡單的中小企業的智慧轉型不是只有在教育這個區塊\n這兩個是差很多對不對主委是不是是的你剛看到這個計畫我們去調了說台南市協助就是我們中央的預算來協助台南市那台南市來協助中小企業智慧轉型的一些相關的計畫名稱計畫內容我們調出來的居然是這些居然是這些\n主委你看完你內行,你看完之後有什麼想法?\n對阿這個是我們喔用我們協助中小企業智慧轉型這樣的名稱下去調的資料就調到這幾個\n這幾個幾乎都是在教育的區塊比較多所以這不是智慧轉型不是智慧轉型有很多方向可是你要把它區分什麼是教育什麼是中小企業什麼區塊每一個區塊其實是不一樣表示智慧轉型現在是已經是重中之重了可是你不能是好像反正有在做就好了\n這個部分會讓大家覺得到底什麼是智慧轉型?\n指揮轉型的精神是什麼會亂掉所以我是用這個來提醒再來就是說這個再請我們主委你這個會後再給我們一個報告就是說\n我們國發會如何協助我們的賴總統打造五大信賴產業半導體產業、人工智慧產業、軍工產業、安控產業、通訊產業這五大信賴產業我們打算怎麼做國發會打算怎麼幫忙協助打造然後我的區塊在哪裡\n我需要這些資料再麻煩一個月拜託一個月好謝謝\n謝謝!\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.049 --> 00:00.891\n陳 亭 妃 委 員 請 做 詢 談 。 謝 謝 。 召 委 我 們 請 主 委 。 我 們 再 請 主 委 。\n\n00:16.584 --> 00:31.690\n主 委 好 主 委 好 主 委 我 想 現 在 我 們 希 望 現 在 一 直 在 期 待 有 一 個 A I 的 研 發 中 心 是 那 這 個 有 沒 有 可 能 在 台 南\n\n00:33.586 --> 00:57.831\n來 協 助 這 樣 的 一 個 A I 研 發 中 心 來 帶 動 地 方 的 產 業 鏈 智 慧 化 的 升 級 轉 型 其 實 大 家 知 道 應 該 主 委 因 為 你 產 業 界 過 來 的 你 知 道 很 多 的 隱 形 產 業 就 是 在 台 南 對 所 以 基 本 上 他 們 從 過 去 靠 著 自 己 然 後 一 路 走 到 現 在 現 在 都 面 臨 一 個 必 須 轉 型 的 時 間 關 鍵 點 了\n\n01:01.038 --> 01:11.734\n因 為 我 們 要 跟 世 界 接 軌 現 在 A I 是 非 常 重 要 的 而 且 我 們 怎 麼 將 傳 統 改 變 轉 型 也 是 一 個 大 工 程\n\n01:12.785 --> 01:31.493\n所 以 我 覺 得 這 個 部 分 如 果 能 夠 協 助 在 台 南 爭 取 一 個 新 建 我 們 的 A I 研 發 中 心 協 助 這 些 傳 產 協 助 我 們 這 些 中 小 企 業 地 方 產 業 能 夠 把 智 慧 化 的 升 級 我 相 信 這 非 常 重 要\n\n01:32.421 --> 01:57.112\n主 委 你 認 為 呢 ? 這 個 我 想 整 個 A I 的 發 展 覺 得 是 我 們 重 中 之 重 那 我 這 個 設 計 整 個 我 們 現 在 是 這 樣 會 先 設 計 裡 面 的 內 容 然 後 之 後 我 們 至 於 它 會 變 成 虛 擬 化 還 是 或 是 一 個 實 際 地 點 這 個 還 要 跟 速 發 部 的 討 論 那 我 們 今 天 下 午 會 討 論 我 想 會 把 委 員 的 看 法 也 會 也 會 轉 達 給 那 個 部 長\n\n01:59.144 --> 02:23.615\n因 為 現 在 這 個 研 發 中 心 我 想 這 個 有 這 樣 的 傳 言 說 我 們 的 黃 仁 勛 黃 總 裁 這 個 等 我 們 臺 南 之 光 了 這 個 江 建 瀨 總 統 要 希 望 在 這 個 研 發 中 心 的 地 點 可 以 從 高 雄 跟 臺 南 去 二 選 一 來 打 造 臺 灣 的 A I 島 是 有 這 樣 的 傳 言\n\n02:27.123 --> 02:50.475\n這 個 傳 言 我 不 清 楚 不 清 楚 現 在 大 家 都 很 期 待 所 以 我 會 今 天 在 這 個 質 詢 當 中 提 出 這 樣 的 一 個 看 法 就 是 說 如 果 真 的 在 整 個 研 發 中 心 A I 的 研 發 中 心 如 果 要 真 的 從 高 雄 跟 台 南 去 二 則 一 台 南 其 實 最 適 當 因 為 他 現 在\n\n02:54.394 --> 02:54.554\n主 委 你 認 為 呢 ?\n\n03:24.656 --> 03:37.251\n我 想 委 員 講 得 很 有 道 理 啦 , 我 會 轉 達 我 們 可 能 一 起 整 體 讓 大 家 會 特 別 也 參 考 , 我 想 台 南 一 定 是 在 選 項 之 一 啦 , 我 們 來 努 力 看 看 。\n\n03:37.898 --> 04:06.293\n因 為 我 相 信 土 地 一 定 沒 有 問 題 嘛 這 個 A I 的 研 發 中 心 土 地 一 定 是 最 首 要 之 重 嘛 沒 土 地 就 不 用 說 了 嘛 台 南 土 地 一 定 沒 問 題 嘛 台 南 看 你 要 選 在 哪 裡 我 們 一 定 全 力 支 持 嘛 然 後 再 來 我 們 也 有 一 些 所 謂 的 相 關 的 不 斷 電 資 訊 的 處 理 系 統 的 一 個 電 力 供 給 這 也 都 是 我 們 在 進 行 當 中 所 以 我 認 為\n\n04:07.759 --> 04:07.979\n﹚ 陳 亭 妃\n\n04:26.209 --> 04:26.509\n主 席\n\n04:45.789 --> 05:07.692\n這 才 是 重 要 所 以 我 利 用 今 天 的 質 詢 把 我 們 地 方 的 期 待 把 我 們 地 方 的 需 求 然 後 跟 主 委 報 告 希 望 主 委 可 以 幫 我 們 轉 達 能 夠 幫 我 們 在 討 論 如 果 真 的 有 機 會 做 這 樣 的 一 個 A I 研 發 中 心 的 時 候 要 把 台 南 變 成 首 要 的\n\n05:08.632 --> 05:36.861\n一 些 我 們 的 決 定 的 地 理 位 置 這 個 才 是 我 們 需 要 我 們 主 委 來 幫 忙 那 另 外 一 個 部 分 是 我 們 現 在 有 很 多 中 小 企 業 的 智 慧 轉 型 的 計 畫 由 中 央 來 協 助 可 是 這 些 其 實 主 委 你 看 過 之 後 你 是 來 行 人 你 看 過 之 後 這 都 是 在 教 育 的 部 分\n\n05:37.987 --> 06:05.538\n並 沒 有 全 面 我 們 在 協 助 中 小 企 業 智 慧 轉 型 不 能 只 有 f o c u s 在 教 育 這 個 區 塊 我 們 應 該 的 是 全 面 性 對 不 對 對 中 小 企 業 的 智 慧 轉 型 不 是 只 有 教 育 所 以 我 們 在 問 的 是 我 們 到 底 國 發 會 如 果 你 要 協 助 中 小 企 業 智 慧 轉 型 這 個 計 畫 你 們 是 整 合 人\n\n06:06.823 --> 06:28.391\n你 們 整 合 各 部 會 你 們 是 不 是 應 該 整 合 得 更 為 精 進 更 為 提 升 而 不 是 單 向 反 正 有 在 做 就 好 了 教 育 部 有 在 做 你 也 把 他 納 入 說 這 是 我 的 智 慧 轉 型 不 是 那 麼 簡 單 的 中 小 企 業 的 智 慧 轉 型 不 是 只 有 在 教 育 這 個 區 塊\n\n06:31.446 --> 06:53.504\n這 兩 個 是 差 很 多 對 不 對 主 委 是 不 是 是 的 你 剛 看 到 這 個 計 畫 我 們 去 調 了 說 台 南 市 協 助 就 是 我 們 中 央 的 預 算 來 協 助 台 南 市 那 台 南 市 來 協 助 中 小 企 業 智 慧 轉 型 的 一 些 相 關 的 計 畫 名 稱 計 畫 內 容 我 們 調 出 來 的 居 然 是 這 些 居 然 是 這 些\n\n06:57.423 --> 07:00.808\n主 委 你 看 完 你 內 行 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