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是\n\n9\n00:03:36,687 --> 00:04:04,021\n老 業 凋 零 都 是 一 些 老 人 反 而 我 們 看 到 一 些 新 興 的 一 些 金 融 產 業 年 輕 人 都 很 多 包 括 電 商 交 易 也 好 包 括 F i n t e c h 比 較 在 沙 盒 裡 面 都 是 一 些 年 輕 人 可 是 我 發 現 政 府 的 政 策 都 是 保 護 過 去 的 老 思 維 比 較 多\n\n10\n00:04:05,185 --> 00:04:31,932\n就 過 去 怎 麼 做 就 是 照 本 宣 科 所 以 的 銀 行 、 董 、 總 永 遠 都 沒 有 求 新 求 變 更 遑 任 永 續 的 這 個 經 營 的 一 個 思 想 諸 位 我 想 請 教 一 下 國 外 的 數 據 來 說 整 個 G D P 裡 面 金 融 的 分 配 佔 比 大 概 是 怎 麼 樣\n\n11\n00:04:33,632 --> 00:04:53,482\n我 所 掌 握 的 資 料 臺 灣 現 在 是 大 概 是 佔 G D P 的 6 % 左 右 6 % 那 其 他 可 能 我 們 周 邊 可 能 將 近 兩 位 數 字 兩 位 數 對 所 以 從 這 個 兩 位 數 的 成 長 我 們 就 發 現 臺 灣 的 金 融 要 加 油 所 以 莊 部 長\n\n12\n00:04:54,895 --> 00:05:22,591\n金 融 營 業 稅 從 5 % 要 調 降 到 2 % 或 者 是 有 人 外 界 解 讀 的 3 % 部 長 什 麼 時 候 開 始 推 動 ? 金 融 營 業 稅 的 部 分 其 實 就 是 銀 行 業 的 還 有 保 險 業 的 本 業 的 部 分 其 他 的 部 分 目 前 大 致 都 是 2 % 那 至 於 這 兩 頁 要 不 要 做 調 整 我 想 我 們 跟 金 管 會 也 都 在 充 分 的 討 論 當 中\n\n13\n00:05:23,868 --> 00:05:50,823\n好 謝 謝 那 你 們 兩 位 現 在 都 在 阿 你 馬 上 討 論 阿 這 個 那 麼 簡 單 就 是 說 你 要 降 到 3 % 或 是 降 到 2 % 數 字 你 們 有 沒 有 彼 此 有 沒 有 加 l i n e 我 們 會 你 把 所 有 的 數 字 一 傳 見 面 那 麼 大 的 官 員 見 面 就 是 政 策 方 向 要 不 要 確 定 要 不 要 定 案 省 下 來 的 稅 金 要 做 什 麼 樣 的 使 用\n\n14\n00:05:51,643 --> 00:06:17,301\n是 不 是 來 多 多 加 強 整 個 所 有 金 融 人 員 的 訓 練 ? 或 者 是 多 多 銀 行 要 鼓 勵 他 們 來 加 薪 啊 ? 委 員 您 的 建 議 很 好 , 我 們 都 會 納 入 這 個 考 量 。 部 長 你 知 道 , 剛 剛 有 提 到 華 南 清 空 也 好 , 和 庫 清 空 也 好 , 他 們 在 公 股 銀 行 裡 面 表 現 算 還 是 中 上 , 前 段 班 的 。\n\n15\n00:06:18,356 --> 00:06:37,603\n可 是 你 知 道 他 們 跟 富 邦 、 跟 國 泰 、 跟 一 些 外 商 銀 行 的 薪 水 差 了 多 少 ? 舉 例 , 核 庫 的 董 事 長 好 了 , 他 一 個 月 薪 水 大 概 多 少 ? 我 不 曉 得 他 一 個 月 薪 水 多 少 ? 他 人 在 啊 , 你 馬 上 問 就 知 道 啦\n\n16\n00:06:42,129 --> 00:06:56,602\n新 展 銀 行 新 加 坡 總 經 理 董 事 長 一 個 月 薪 水 多 少 ? 那 一 定 也 是 比 我 們 高 嗎 ? 高 多 少 ? 高 多 少 ? 不 知 道 啊 心 理 你 要 知 道 說 整 個 市 場 的 變 化\n\n17\n00:06:58,025 --> 00:07:15,393\n知 道 應 該 怎 麼 選 任 新 的 人 來 擔 任 新 的 事 務 。 部 長 請 問 你 最 近 已 經 到 了 六 七 月 公 股 銀 行 有 幾 家 準 備 要 進 行 董 事 長 總 經 理 的 改 選\n\n18\n00:07:17,172 --> 00:07:27,199\n今 年 會 有 三 家 銀 行 哪 三 家 三 家 就 是 兆 豐 嘛 兆 豐 有 沒 有 來 第 一 還 有 台 企 銀 還 有 三 家 這 個 部 分 要 做 改 選 目 前 來 說 他 們 會 在 6 月 2 1 號 召 開 相 關 的 董 事 會 股 東 會 已 經 到 了 會 召 開 6 月 2 1 號 這 過 幾 天 就 端 午 節 了 也 跟 委 員 報 告 在 金 融 機 構 裡 面 第 一 個 我 們 有\n\n19\n00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:43,510\n剛 剛 講 的 這 三 家\n\n20\n00:08:11,201 --> 00:08:35,441\n金 康 公 司 董 總 會 不 會 換 人 目 前 當 然 第 一 個 我 們 名 單 是 先 提 列 出 來 啦 到 時 候 還 是 要 等 到 大 會 的 你 可 不 可 以 把 名 單 讓 我 看 一 下 名 單 可 以 有 都 有 公 告 啊 有 公 告 請 公 關 聯 絡 人 拿 給 我 一 下 可 以 提 供 給 委 員 沒 問 題 兆 豐 表 現 得 好 不 好 兆 豐 表 現 得 不 錯 啊 不 錯 表 現 得 好 你 要 需 要 把 他 換 掉 嗎\n\n21\n00:08:36,556 --> 00:08:37,057\n雷 董 會 繼 續 做 ?\n\n22\n00:08:48,155 --> 00:09:04,173\n這 個 部 分 我 想 還 是 要 等 到 整 個 大 會 議 是 好 那 易 穎 的 呢 易 穎 的 金 空 董 事 長 易 穎 金 空 是 目 前 是 邱 董 事 長 是 表 現 得 好 不 好 也 很 好 啊 好 那 你 有 沒 有 問 他 要 不 繼 續 擔 啊 擔 任 啊 我 沒 有 問 他 啊 你 馬 上 在 啊 你 問 一 下 時 間 暫 停 問 一 下\n\n23\n00:09:07,561 --> 00:09:33,939\n還 是 等 一 下 再 問 他 上 來 是 要 回 答 委 員 問 題 不 是 回 答 我 的 問 題 人 事 是 你 在 決 定 如 果 我 決 定 我 馬 上 我 就 說 繼 續 留 任 因 為 他 以 前 在 新 加 坡 待 過 而 且 表 現 也 非 常 好 非 常 的 圓 融 企 業 大 家 都 很 稱 讚 他 而 且 賺 錢 賺 得 很 好 賺 很 多 義 營 旗 下 義 營 證 券 都 已 經 破 紀 錄 對 不 對\n\n24\n00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:45,247\n那 個 E P S 都 創 新 高 啊 都 很 好 的 人 選 啊 那 還 有 哪 一 家 台 企 銀 來 台 企 銀 董 事 長 是 劉 董 事 長\n\n25\n00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:51,504\n臺 慶 過 去 快 要 瀕 臨 7 塊 6 塊 , 已 經 是 1 0 塊 保 衛 戰 了 , 現 在 漲 到 多 少 錢 了 ? 好 的 不 得 了 , 以 前 零 千 號 每 天 無 名 無 利\n\n26\n00:10:08,661 --> 00:10:36,118\n到 了 1 0 點 我 問 他 說 你 怎 麼 還 不 下 班 他 說 他 一 定 要 把 台 慶 帶 動 起 來 所 以 當 林 董 事 長 他 到 到 和 庫 然 後 因 為 太 累 了 然 後 生 病 過 世 了 我 覺 得 心 裡 非 常 的 捨 不 得 啊 所 以 部 長 拜 託 啊 好 的 人 選 你 要 多 多 鼓 勵 然 後 鼓 勵 他 們 要 多 待 一 些 栽 培 一 些 年 輕 人 會 的 會 的\n\n27\n00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:38,279\n主 席\n\n28\n00:11:02,608 --> 00:11:04,550\n謝 謝 羅 明 才 委 員 的 質 詢 接 著 我 們 請 陳 鈺 貞 委 員 質 詢 我 們 也 開 放 現 場 用 餐 1 2 點 了\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n329\t28122\t請彭主委、有請莊部長委員好部長好那其實ESG我們都希望永續的發展但是在普惠金融這一塊我想最近很多委員也都是跟本席一樣非常的關心我們發現整個金融的發展跟佈局\n29070\t46124\t他大概總歸的講就是肥了大企業瘦了小老百姓的確很多的民眾因為M型化社會的來臨啊辛苦的非常多舉個例子\n47455\t76846\t主委 我請教你啊股市現在都已經漲到2萬點 站穩2萬多點可是真正賺錢的行業大概百分比有多少你們有沒有算過當股市到2萬點的時候我們發現傳產的一些特別傳統的夕陽產業也好或者過去這個比較即將要淘汰的產業也好\n78134\t107268\t可以說是以前茅山道士啊現在不要虧錢就不得了啦所以不曉得主委有沒有發生有沒有發現這樣的情況現在我了解一下狀況對希望主委因為你剛剛來啦齁其實身負重任我們希望說社會的和諧永續是平均把國家的資源照顧到每個人的身上\n109926\t131931\t我知道很辛苦 企業也是講求利潤但是 不要忘記了沒有過去的努力 沒有過去的農民 沒有過去的傳統產業撐起台灣一邊天這些好的電子公司也不會有今天的成就啊當我們看到AI的時代來臨時候\n133834\t159210\t我們看到Jason Huang他回到台灣來我們看到很感動因為他是台灣ina 台南人不只他蘇之鋒還有第四名的Charles全部都是台灣人台北工專畢業的這都不容易但是提醒主委跟部長\n161230\t185657\t當他們撐起一片天總市值超過接近3兆美金的時候我們要主動的跟他們聯絡請他們有機會不要忘了台灣這個地方生他養他育他的地方多多給台灣機會特別是應該多給台灣的年輕人機會\n188035\t215478\t主委部長我想請問部長一下我們的八大公股銀行裡面平均年齡是多少平均年齡這個部分我手邊目前沒有資料會後送給委員是這也是請兩位上來的原因之一我們的一些公股銀行啊不斷的老化呈現的就是\n216687\t244021\t老業凋零都是一些老人反而我們看到一些新興的一些金融產業年輕人都很多包括電商交易也好包括Fintech比較在沙盒裡面都是一些年輕人可是我發現政府的政策都是保護過去的老思維比較多\n245185\t271932\t就過去怎麼做就是照本宣科所以的銀行、董、總永遠都沒有求新求變更遑任永續的這個經營的一個思想諸位我想請教一下國外的數據來說整個GDP裡面金融的分配佔比大概是怎麼樣\n273632\t293482\t我所掌握的資料臺灣現在是大概是佔GDP的6%左右6%那其他可能我們周邊可能將近兩位數字兩位數對所以從這個兩位數的成長我們就發現臺灣的金融要加油所以莊部長\n294895\t322591\t金融營業稅從5%要調降到2%或者是有人外界解讀的3%部長什麼時候開始推動?金融營業稅的部分其實就是銀行業的還有保險業的本業的部分其他的部分目前大致都是2%那至於這兩頁要不要做調整我想我們跟金管會也都在充分的討論當中\n323868\t350823\t好 謝謝那你們兩位現在都在阿你馬上討論阿這個那麼簡單就是說你要降到3%或是降到2%數字你們有沒有彼此有沒有加line我們會你把所有的數字一傳見面那麼大的官員見面就是政策方向要不要確定要不要定案省下來的稅金要做什麼樣的使用\n351643\t377301\t是不是來多多加強整個所有金融人員的訓練?或者是多多銀行要鼓勵他們來加薪啊?委員您的建議很好,我們都會納入這個考量。部長你知道,剛剛有提到華南清空也好,和庫清空也好,他們在公股銀行裡面表現算還是中上,前段班的。\n378356\t397603\t可是你知道他們跟富邦、跟國泰、跟一些外商銀行的薪水差了多少?舉例,核庫的董事長好了,他一個月薪水大概多少?我不曉得他一個月薪水多少?他人在啊,你馬上問就知道啦\n402129\t416602\t新展銀行新加坡總經理董事長一個月薪水多少?那一定也是比我們高嗎?高多少?高多少?不知道啊心理你要知道說整個市場的變化\n418025\t435393\t知道應該怎麼選任新的人來擔任新的事務。部長請問你最近已經到了六七月公股銀行有幾家準備要進行董事長總經理的改選\n437172\t447199\t今年會有三家銀行哪三家三家就是兆豐嘛兆豐有沒有來第一還有台企銀還有三家這個部分要做改選目前來說他們會在6月21號召開相關的董事會股東會已經到了會召開6月21號這過幾天就端午節了也跟委員報告在金融機構裡面第一個我們有\n463450\t463510\t剛剛講的這三家\n491201\t515441\t金康公司董總會不會換人目前當然第一個我們名單是先提列出來啦到時候還是要等到大會的你可不可以把名單讓我看一下名單可以有都有公告啊有公告請公關聯絡人拿給我一下可以提供給委員沒問題兆豐表現得好不好兆豐表現得不錯啊不錯表現得好你要需要把他換掉嗎\n516556\t517057\t雷董會繼續做?\n528155\t544173\t這個部分我想還是要等到整個大會議是好 那易穎的呢易穎的金空董事長易穎金空是目前是邱董事長是表現得好不好也很好啊好 那你有沒有問他要不繼續擔啊擔任啊我沒有問他啊你馬上在啊你問一下時間暫停問一下\n547561\t573939\t還是等一下再問他上來是要回答委員問題不是回答我的問題人事是你在決定如果我決定我馬上我就說繼續留任因為他以前在新加坡待過而且表現也非常好非常的圓融企業大家都很稱讚他而且賺錢賺得很好賺很多義營旗下義營證券都已經破紀錄對不對\n575760\t585247\t那個EPS都創新高啊都很好的人選啊那還有哪一家台企銀來台企銀董事長是劉董事長\n587500\t591504\t臺慶過去快要瀕臨7塊6塊,已經是10塊保衛戰了,現在漲到多少錢了?好的不得了,以前零千號每天無名無利\n608661\t636118\t到了10點我問他說你怎麼還不下班他說他一定要把台慶帶動起來所以當林董事長他到到和庫然後因為太累了然後生病過世了我覺得心裡非常的捨不得啊所以部長拜託啊好的人選你要多多鼓勵然後鼓勵他們要多待一些栽培一些年輕人會的會的\n637839\t638279\t主席\n662608\t664550\t謝謝羅明才委員的質詢接著我們請陳鈺貞委員質詢我們也開放現場用餐12點了\n","txt":"請彭主委、有請莊部長委員好部長好那其實ESG我們都希望永續的發展但是在普惠金融這一塊我想最近很多委員也都是跟本席一樣非常的關心我們發現整個金融的發展跟佈局\n他大概總歸的講就是肥了大企業瘦了小老百姓的確很多的民眾因為M型化社會的來臨啊辛苦的非常多舉個例子\n主委 我請教你啊股市現在都已經漲到2萬點 站穩2萬多點可是真正賺錢的行業大概百分比有多少你們有沒有算過當股市到2萬點的時候我們發現傳產的一些特別傳統的夕陽產業也好或者過去這個比較即將要淘汰的產業也好\n可以說是以前茅山道士啊現在不要虧錢就不得了啦所以不曉得主委有沒有發生有沒有發現這樣的情況現在我了解一下狀況對希望主委因為你剛剛來啦齁其實身負重任我們希望說社會的和諧永續是平均把國家的資源照顧到每個人的身上\n我知道很辛苦 企業也是講求利潤但是 不要忘記了沒有過去的努力 沒有過去的農民 沒有過去的傳統產業撐起台灣一邊天這些好的電子公司也不會有今天的成就啊當我們看到AI的時代來臨時候\n我們看到Jason Huang他回到台灣來我們看到很感動因為他是台灣ina 台南人不只他蘇之鋒還有第四名的Charles全部都是台灣人台北工專畢業的這都不容易但是提醒主委跟部長\n當他們撐起一片天總市值超過接近3兆美金的時候我們要主動的跟他們聯絡請他們有機會不要忘了台灣這個地方生他養他育他的地方多多給台灣機會特別是應該多給台灣的年輕人機會\n主委部長我想請問部長一下我們的八大公股銀行裡面平均年齡是多少平均年齡這個部分我手邊目前沒有資料會後送給委員是這也是請兩位上來的原因之一我們的一些公股銀行啊不斷的老化呈現的就是\n老業凋零都是一些老人反而我們看到一些新興的一些金融產業年輕人都很多包括電商交易也好包括Fintech比較在沙盒裡面都是一些年輕人可是我發現政府的政策都是保護過去的老思維比較多\n就過去怎麼做就是照本宣科所以的銀行、董、總永遠都沒有求新求變更遑任永續的這個經營的一個思想諸位我想請教一下國外的數據來說整個GDP裡面金融的分配佔比大概是怎麼樣\n我所掌握的資料臺灣現在是大概是佔GDP的6%左右6%那其他可能我們周邊可能將近兩位數字兩位數對所以從這個兩位數的成長我們就發現臺灣的金融要加油所以莊部長\n金融營業稅從5%要調降到2%或者是有人外界解讀的3%部長什麼時候開始推動?金融營業稅的部分其實就是銀行業的還有保險業的本業的部分其他的部分目前大致都是2%那至於這兩頁要不要做調整我想我們跟金管會也都在充分的討論當中\n好 謝謝那你們兩位現在都在阿你馬上討論阿這個那麼簡單就是說你要降到3%或是降到2%數字你們有沒有彼此有沒有加line我們會你把所有的數字一傳見面那麼大的官員見面就是政策方向要不要確定要不要定案省下來的稅金要做什麼樣的使用\n是不是來多多加強整個所有金融人員的訓練?或者是多多銀行要鼓勵他們來加薪啊?委員您的建議很好,我們都會納入這個考量。部長你知道,剛剛有提到華南清空也好,和庫清空也好,他們在公股銀行裡面表現算還是中上,前段班的。\n可是你知道他們跟富邦、跟國泰、跟一些外商銀行的薪水差了多少?舉例,核庫的董事長好了,他一個月薪水大概多少?我不曉得他一個月薪水多少?他人在啊,你馬上問就知道啦\n新展銀行新加坡總經理董事長一個月薪水多少?那一定也是比我們高嗎?高多少?高多少?不知道啊心理你要知道說整個市場的變化\n知道應該怎麼選任新的人來擔任新的事務。部長請問你最近已經到了六七月公股銀行有幾家準備要進行董事長總經理的改選\n今年會有三家銀行哪三家三家就是兆豐嘛兆豐有沒有來第一還有台企銀還有三家這個部分要做改選目前來說他們會在6月21號召開相關的董事會股東會已經到了會召開6月21號這過幾天就端午節了也跟委員報告在金融機構裡面第一個我們有\n剛剛講的這三家\n金康公司董總會不會換人目前當然第一個我們名單是先提列出來啦到時候還是要等到大會的你可不可以把名單讓我看一下名單可以有都有公告啊有公告請公關聯絡人拿給我一下可以提供給委員沒問題兆豐表現得好不好兆豐表現得不錯啊不錯表現得好你要需要把他換掉嗎\n雷董會繼續做?\n這個部分我想還是要等到整個大會議是好 那易穎的呢易穎的金空董事長易穎金空是目前是邱董事長是表現得好不好也很好啊好 那你有沒有問他要不繼續擔啊擔任啊我沒有問他啊你馬上在啊你問一下時間暫停問一下\n還是等一下再問他上來是要回答委員問題不是回答我的問題人事是你在決定如果我決定我馬上我就說繼續留任因為他以前在新加坡待過而且表現也非常好非常的圓融企業大家都很稱讚他而且賺錢賺得很好賺很多義營旗下義營證券都已經破紀錄對不對\n那個EPS都創新高啊都很好的人選啊那還有哪一家台企銀來台企銀董事長是劉董事長\n臺慶過去快要瀕臨7塊6塊,已經是10塊保衛戰了,現在漲到多少錢了?好的不得了,以前零千號每天無名無利\n到了10點我問他說你怎麼還不下班他說他一定要把台慶帶動起來所以當林董事長他到到和庫然後因為太累了然後生病過世了我覺得心裡非常的捨不得啊所以部長拜託啊好的人選你要多多鼓勵然後鼓勵他們要多待一些栽培一些年輕人會的會的\n主席\n謝謝羅明才委員的質詢接著我們請陳鈺貞委員質詢我們也開放現場用餐12點了\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.329 --> 00:28.122\n請 彭 主 委 、 有 請 莊 部 長 委 員 好 部 長 好 那 其 實 E S G 我 們 都 希 望 永 續 的 發 展 但 是 在 普 惠 金 融 這 一 塊 我 想 最 近 很 多 委 員 也 都 是 跟 本 席 一 樣 非 常 的 關 心 我 們 發 現 整 個 金 融 的 發 展 跟 佈 局\n\n00:29.070 --> 00:46.124\n他 大 概 總 歸 的 講 就 是 肥 了 大 企 業 瘦 了 小 老 百 姓 的 確 很 多 的 民 眾 因 為 M 型 化 社 會 的 來 臨 啊 辛 苦 的 非 常 多 舉 個 例 子\n\n00:47.455 --> 01:16.846\n主 委 我 請 教 你 啊 股 市 現 在 都 已 經 漲 到 2 萬 點 站 穩 2 萬 多 點 可 是 真 正 賺 錢 的 行 業 大 概 百 分 比 有 多 少 你 們 有 沒 有 算 過 當 股 市 到 2 萬 點 的 時 候 我 們 發 現 傳 產 的 一 些 特 別 傳 統 的 夕 陽 產 業 也 好 或 者 過 去 這 個 比 較 即 將 要 淘 汰 的 產 業 也 好\n\n01:18.134 --> 01:47.268\n可 以 說 是 以 前 茅 山 道 士 啊 現 在 不 要 虧 錢 就 不 得 了 啦 所 以 不 曉 得 主 委 有 沒 有 發 生 有 沒 有 發 現 這 樣 的 情 況 現 在 我 了 解 一 下 狀 況 對 希 望 主 委 因 為 你 剛 剛 來 啦 齁 其 實 身 負 重 任 我 們 希 望 說 社 會 的 和 諧 永 續 是 平 均 把 國 家 的 資 源 照 顧 到 每 個 人 的 身 上\n\n01:49.926 --> 02:11.931\n我 知 道 很 辛 苦 企 業 也 是 講 求 利 潤 但 是 不 要 忘 記 了 沒 有 過 去 的 努 力 沒 有 過 去 的 農 民 沒 有 過 去 的 傳 統 產 業 撐 起 台 灣 一 邊 天 這 些 好 的 電 子 公 司 也 不 會 有 今 天 的 成 就 啊 當 我 們 看 到 A I 的 時 代 來 臨 時 候\n\n02:13.834 --> 02:39.210\n我 們 看 到 J a s o n H u a n g 他 回 到 台 灣 來 我 們 看 到 很 感 動 因 為 他 是 台 灣 i n a 台 南 人 不 只 他 蘇 之 鋒 還 有 第 四 名 的 C h a r l e s 全 部 都 是 台 灣 人 台 北 工 專 畢 業 的 這 都 不 容 易 但 是 提 醒 主 委 跟 部 長\n\n02:41.230 --> 03:05.657\n當 他 們 撐 起 一 片 天 總 市 值 超 過 接 近 3 兆 美 金 的 時 候 我 們 要 主 動 的 跟 他 們 聯 絡 請 他 們 有 機 會 不 要 忘 了 台 灣 這 個 地 方 生 他 養 他 育 他 的 地 方 多 多 給 台 灣 機 會 特 別 是 應 該 多 給 台 灣 的 年 輕 人 機 會\n\n03:08.035 --> 03:35.478\n主 委 部 長 我 想 請 問 部 長 一 下 我 們 的 八 大 公 股 銀 行 裡 面 平 均 年 齡 是 多 少 平 均 年 齡 這 個 部 分 我 手 邊 目 前 沒 有 資 料 會 後 送 給 委 員 是 這 也 是 請 兩 位 上 來 的 原 因 之 一 我 們 的 一 些 公 股 銀 行 啊 不 斷 的 老 化 呈 現 的 就 是\n\n03:36.687 --> 04:04.021\n老 業 凋 零 都 是 一 些 老 人 反 而 我 們 看 到 一 些 新 興 的 一 些 金 融 產 業 年 輕 人 都 很 多 包 括 電 商 交 易 也 好 包 括 F i n t e c h 比 較 在 沙 盒 裡 面 都 是 一 些 年 輕 人 可 是 我 發 現 政 府 的 政 策 都 是 保 護 過 去 的 老 思 維 比 較 多\n\n04:05.185 --> 04:31.932\n就 過 去 怎 麼 做 就 是 照 本 宣 科 所 以 的 銀 行 、 董 、 總 永 遠 都 沒 有 求 新 求 變 更 遑 任 永 續 的 這 個 經 營 的 一 個 思 想 諸 位 我 想 請 教 一 下 國 外 的 數 據 來 說 整 個 G D P 裡 面 金 融 的 分 配 佔 比 大 概 是 怎 麼 樣\n\n04:33.632 --> 04:53.482\n我 所 掌 握 的 資 料 臺 灣 現 在 是 大 概 是 佔 G D P 的 6 % 左 右 6 % 那 其 他 可 能 我 們 周 邊 可 能 將 近 兩 位 數 字 兩 位 數 對 所 以 從 這 個 兩 位 數 的 成 長 我 們 就 發 現 臺 灣 的 金 融 要 加 油 所 以 莊 部 長\n\n04:54.895 --> 05:22.591\n金 融 營 業 稅 從 5 % 要 調 降 到 2 % 或 者 是 有 人 外 界 解 讀 的 3 % 部 長 什 麼 時 候 開 始 推 動 ? 金 融 營 業 稅 的 部 分 其 實 就 是 銀 行 業 的 還 有 保 險 業 的 本 業 的 部 分 其 他 的 部 分 目 前 大 致 都 是 2 % 那 至 於 這 兩 頁 要 不 要 做 調 整 我 想 我 們 跟 金 管 會 也 都 在 充 分 的 討 論 當 中\n\n05:23.868 --> 05:50.823\n好 謝 謝 那 你 們 兩 位 現 在 都 在 阿 你 馬 上 討 論 阿 這 個 那 麼 簡 單 就 是 說 你 要 降 到 3 % 或 是 降 到 2 % 數 字 你 們 有 沒 有 彼 此 有 沒 有 加 l i n e 我 們 會 你 把 所 有 的 數 字 一 傳 見 面 那 麼 大 的 官 員 見 面 就 是 政 策 方 向 要 不 要 確 定 要 不 要 定 案 省 下 來 的 稅 金 要 做 什 麼 樣 的 使 用\n\n05:51.643 --> 06:17.301\n是 不 是 來 多 多 加 強 整 個 所 有 金 融 人 員 的 訓 練 ? 或 者 是 多 多 銀 行 要 鼓 勵 他 們 來 加 薪 啊 ? 委 員 您 的 建 議 很 好 , 我 們 都 會 納 入 這 個 考 量 。 部 長 你 知 道 , 剛 剛 有 提 到 華 南 清 空 也 好 , 和 庫 清 空 也 好 , 他 們 在 公 股 銀 行 裡 面 表 現 算 還 是 中 上 , 前 段 班 的 。\n\n06:18.356 --> 06:37.603\n可 是 你 知 道 他 們 跟 富 邦 、 跟 國 泰 、 跟 一 些 外 商 銀 行 的 薪 水 差 了 多 少 ? 舉 例 , 核 庫 的 董 事 長 好 了 , 他 一 個 月 薪 水 大 概 多 少 ? 我 不 曉 得 他 一 個 月 薪 水 多 少 ? 他 人 在 啊 , 你 馬 上 問 就 知 道 啦\n\n06:42.129 --> 06:56.602\n新 展 銀 行 新 加 坡 總 經 理 董 事 長 一 個 月 薪 水 多 少 ? 那 一 定 也 是 比 我 們 高 嗎 ? 高 多 少 ? 高 多 少 ? 不 知 道 啊 心 理 你 要 知 道 說 整 個 市 場 的 變 化\n\n06:58.025 --> 07:15.393\n知 道 應 該 怎 麼 選 任 新 的 人 來 擔 任 新 的 事 務 。 部 長 請 問 你 最 近 已 經 到 了 六 七 月 公 股 銀 行 有 幾 家 準 備 要 進 行 董 事 長 總 經 理 的 改 選\n\n07:17.172 --> 07:27.199\n今 年 會 有 三 家 銀 行 哪 三 家 三 家 就 是 兆 豐 嘛 兆 豐 有 沒 有 來 第 一 還 有 台 企 銀 還 有 三 家 這 個 部 分 要 做 改 選 目 前 來 說 他 們 會 在 6 月 2 1 號 召 開 相 關 的 董 事 會 股 東 會 已 經 到 了 會 召 開 6 月 2 1 號 這 過 幾 天 就 端 午 節 了 也 跟 委 員 報 告 在 金 融 機 構 裡 面 第 一 個 我 們 有\n\n07:43.450 --> 07:43.510\n剛 剛 講 的 這 三 家\n\n08:11.201 --> 08:35.441\n金 康 公 司 董 總 會 不 會 換 人 目 前 當 然 第 一 個 我 們 名 單 是 先 提 列 出 來 啦 到 時 候 還 是 要 等 到 大 會 的 你 可 不 可 以 把 名 單 讓 我 看 一 下 名 單 可 以 有 都 有 公 告 啊 有 公 告 請 公 關 聯 絡 人 拿 給 我 一 下 可 以 提 供 給 委 員 沒 問 題 兆 豐 表 現 得 好 不 好 兆 豐 表 現 得 不 錯 啊 不 錯 表 現 得 好 你 要 需 要 把 他 換 掉 嗎\n\n08:36.556 --> 08:37.057\n雷 董 會 繼 續 做 ?\n\n08:48.155 --> 09:04.173\n這 個 部 分 我 想 還 是 要 等 到 整 個 大 會 議 是 好 那 易 穎 的 呢 易 穎 的 金 空 董 事 長 易 穎 金 空 是 目 前 是 邱 董 事 長 是 表 現 得 好 不 好 也 很 好 啊 好 那 你 有 沒 有 問 他 要 不 繼 續 擔 啊 擔 任 啊 我 沒 有 問 他 啊 你 馬 上 在 啊 你 問 一 下 時 間 暫 停 問 一 下\n\n09:07.561 --> 09:33.939\n還 是 等 一 下 再 問 他 上 來 是 要 回 答 委 員 問 題 不 是 回 答 我 的 問 題 人 事 是 你 在 決 定 如 果 我 決 定 我 馬 上 我 就 說 繼 續 留 任 因 為 他 以 前 在 新 加 坡 待 過 而 且 表 現 也 非 常 好 非 常 的 圓 融 企 業 大 家 都 很 稱 讚 他 而 且 賺 錢 賺 得 很 好 賺 很 多 義 營 旗 下 義 營 證 券 都 已 經 破 紀 錄 對 不 對\n\n09:35.760 --> 09:45.247\n那 個 E P S 都 創 新 高 啊 都 很 好 的 人 選 啊 那 還 有 哪 一 家 台 企 銀 來 台 企 銀 董 事 長 是 劉 董 事 長\n\n09:47.500 --> 09:51.504\n臺 慶 過 去 快 要 瀕 臨 7 塊 6 塊 , 已 經 是 1 0 塊 保 衛 戰 了 , 現 在 漲 到 多 少 錢 了 ? 好 的 不 得 了 , 以 前 零 千 號 每 天 無 名 無 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