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謝謝\n25047\t41944\t主委辛苦了真的如同剛剛委員說的你願意跳入火坑但是我更要說有來自業界的聲音我相信大家會更樂於有看見像這樣子的主委怎麼說呢因為等一下跟主委討論的相信主委您在過去業界工作經驗當中一定有遇到類似的問題來下一頁\n43766\t48729\t在國發會的業務報告裡面我們看到國發會說要積極優化投資策略審議還有投資決策的過程然後搭配總統新創地方創生的投資政見要把125億元往後帶到250億未來4年評估增列投資預算目標4年後達到1500億投資量能我們非常樂見這個願景但是我們要跟主委報告一個我們辦公室從過去一年我地補上任之後一直在追蹤的一個議題相信主委您過去的業界經驗\n73342\t73382\t法規障礙\n94784\t100630\t委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n116988\t118389\t主委您來自業界你過去在創業或者是在從事產業工作歷程當中你一定有經歷過所謂的法規障礙對不對?\n128703\t153131\t我是我是我們大部分其實都是會盡量閃避法規就是不要去碰它了因為修法都很困難嘛我們有時候會選擇不做或者是做一些比較不觸動法規的事情好但是您現在身為主委我想這個話我們就不要再說我們是不是就想辦法來協助更多地方創生的團隊我來跟主委分享我們遇到哪些問題來下一頁\n155432\t183573\t我們從去年10月就一直拜託國發會當你們在花很多的經費跟補助給很多地方創生團隊的時候他們所面臨的法規障礙到底國發會了不了解國發會不能只發錢必須要協助這些新創事業進行跨部會法規障礙的溝通結果呢國發會給我們到今年1月為止給我們的資料告訴我們說經營地方小旅行相關事業就會被規定要成立合法的旅行社\n184674\t213368\t老屋的部分有老屋的問題原住民傳統飲食有原住民傳統飲食跟食品安全衛生法規的問題主委當我們的年輕人帶著熱情帶著熱誠帶著愛故鄉的心回到故鄉做中小型地方創生的時候做地方創生創業的時候我們難道告訴他們就迴避法規嗎所以我相信主委是不是可以從今天開始我們一起來關心這些地方創生事業他們面臨的法規障礙\n215278\t218643\t好的,我們願意去了解。\n219554\t245100\t那看看有沒有什麼可以改善的有有有很多很多主委我手上有非常非常多案例可是因為我時間有限可是我們通常都會希望不要只解決個案我們一定有機會透過法規的盤點通案來討論這些事情好不好那就必須要拜託國發會主動積極發起跟各部會的討論所以我們看到國發會給自己的定位排除企業投資障礙建立便民效能法制的環境\n246060\t246300\t是的。\n261929\t289542\t好 那我們辦公室最後因為我們辦公室也會積極協助這些地方法規遇到的困境跟障礙可是真的需要你們跨部會協助他們那更多更多詳細的問題跟到底這些問題有哪些面向需要國發會的力量我們之後會再找時間跟國發會積極討論那今天呢因為是主委您第一次業務報告我們就先跟您分享在地方創生也許是過去您比較不熟悉的中小型的微型的地方年輕人的是您過去的大型企業所沒有接觸過的對象\n290923\t295208\t拜託主委您上任之後我們一起來關心這些願意回到地方的年輕人好嗎?好的謝謝主委、謝謝主席、謝謝\n","txt":"蘇巧惠委員不在現在請陳培瑜委員做詢答好 謝謝主席那有請主委 謝謝國發會主委六主委 謝謝\n主委辛苦了真的如同剛剛委員說的你願意跳入火坑但是我更要說有來自業界的聲音我相信大家會更樂於有看見像這樣子的主委怎麼說呢因為等一下跟主委討論的相信主委您在過去業界工作經驗當中一定有遇到類似的問題來下一頁\n在國發會的業務報告裡面我們看到國發會說要積極優化投資策略審議還有投資決策的過程然後搭配總統新創地方創生的投資政見要把125億元往後帶到250億未來4年評估增列投資預算目標4年後達到1500億投資量能我們非常樂見這個願景但是我們要跟主委報告一個我們辦公室從過去一年我地補上任之後一直在追蹤的一個議題相信主委您過去的業界經驗\n法規障礙\n委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會\n主委您來自業界你過去在創業或者是在從事產業工作歷程當中你一定有經歷過所謂的法規障礙對不對?\n我是我是我們大部分其實都是會盡量閃避法規就是不要去碰它了因為修法都很困難嘛我們有時候會選擇不做或者是做一些比較不觸動法規的事情好但是您現在身為主委我想這個話我們就不要再說我們是不是就想辦法來協助更多地方創生的團隊我來跟主委分享我們遇到哪些問題來下一頁\n我們從去年10月就一直拜託國發會當你們在花很多的經費跟補助給很多地方創生團隊的時候他們所面臨的法規障礙到底國發會了不了解國發會不能只發錢必須要協助這些新創事業進行跨部會法規障礙的溝通結果呢國發會給我們到今年1月為止給我們的資料告訴我們說經營地方小旅行相關事業就會被規定要成立合法的旅行社\n老屋的部分有老屋的問題原住民傳統飲食有原住民傳統飲食跟食品安全衛生法規的問題主委當我們的年輕人帶著熱情帶著熱誠帶著愛故鄉的心回到故鄉做中小型地方創生的時候做地方創生創業的時候我們難道告訴他們就迴避法規嗎所以我相信主委是不是可以從今天開始我們一起來關心這些地方創生事業他們面臨的法規障礙\n好的,我們願意去了解。\n那看看有沒有什麼可以改善的有有有很多很多主委我手上有非常非常多案例可是因為我時間有限可是我們通常都會希望不要只解決個案我們一定有機會透過法規的盤點通案來討論這些事情好不好那就必須要拜託國發會主動積極發起跟各部會的討論所以我們看到國發會給自己的定位排除企業投資障礙建立便民效能法制的環境\n是的。\n好 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