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G 可 是 本 席 從 過 去 四 年 在 財 委 會 我 常 常 質 疑 我 們 的 這 個 金 融 永 續 的 報 告 都 留 於 作 文 比 賽 然 後 大 家 只 在 乎 一 不 是 一 不 重 要 但 是 留 於 形 式 就 會 變 成 什 麼\n\n8\n00:02:27,162 --> 00:02:52,440\n減 垃 圾 、 辦 園 遊 會 、 吃 素 我 認 為 大 家 對 一 的 概 念 已 經 已 經 到 一 定 的 水 準 之 上 但 是 對 於 金 融 生 活 的 這 個 金 融 素 養 的 提 升 我 想 問 的 是 不 論 是 主 委 或 是 莊 部 長 莊 部 長 有 請 我 們 可 不 可 以 在 金 融 永 續 的 評 鑑 指 標 上 面 來 做 一 些 進 步 比 如 說 金 融 業 怎 麼 樣 提 升 國 民 的 金 融 素 養\n\n9\n00:02:53,120 --> 00:03:07,026\n公 股 行 戶 怎 麼 帶 頭 來 做 金 融 扎 根 我 們 在 E S G 我 們 知 道 這 個 分 分 秒 秒 不 論 是 上 市 櫃 公 司 或 是 金 融 產 業 都 希 望 做 一 個 提 高 分 數 這 每 加 一 分 都 非 常 的 不 容 易 所 以\n\n10\n00:03:08,386 --> 00:03:30,158\n我 想 請 問 部 長 、 莊 部 長 跟 彭 主 委 有 沒 有 可 能 在 我 們 金 融 評 鑑 上 面 多 加 入 把 S 2 的 普 惠 金 融 的 實 踐 能 夠 具 體 化 比 如 說 是 向 下 扎 根 或 者 是 金 融 從 業 人 員 當 中 你 有 辦 法 去 做 一 些 協 助 呢 我 先 請 這 個 彭 主 委 再 請 莊 部 長 來 回 應\n\n11\n00:03:31,559 --> 00:03:59,198\n我 想 金 管 會 過 去 對 這 個 金 融 普 及 是 做 了 非 常 非 常 多 當 然 還 有 待 努 力 啦 我 想 這 部 分 我 們 可 以 來 研 究 啊 好 部 長 呢 是 謝 謝 委 員 齁 那 其 實 金 管 會 他 在 去 年 底 已 經 有 發 布 一 個 金 融 知 識 普 及 及 工 作 的 第 7 期 推 動 計 畫 是 1 1 3 年 到 1 1 5 年 那 這 個 部 分 呢 就 是 要 擴 大 金 融 機 構 去 參 與 金 融 教 育 那 這 要 走 入 社 區 走 入 校 園\n\n12\n00:04:00,178 --> 00:04:19,355\n讓 我 們 的 學 生 也 好 讓 我 們 一 般 的 民 眾 都 能 夠 有 一 個 金 融 的 知 識 、 常 識 以 及 涵 養 那 這 個 公 股 金 融 事 業 也 都 配 合 這 樣 的 一 個 計 畫 都 無 常 的 派 員 去 當 總 指 教 師 提 供 一 些 正 確 的 金 融 知 識 我 想 這 個 部 分 我 們 的 公 股 金 融 事 業 一 直 在 做 然 後 也 是 散 盡 一 個 企 業 的 社 會 責 任\n\n13\n00:04:21,417 --> 00:04:34,768\n好 所 以 我 想 要 問 主 委 我 知 道 你 們 一 定 都 會 立 委 都 質 詢 了 也 都 會 正 面 肯 定 我 就 問 主 委 金 融 永 續 金 融 評 鑑 的 這 個 評 鑑 指 標 你 知 道 是 哪 些 單 位 來 訂 定 出 來 的 嗎\n\n14\n00:04:39,135 --> 00:05:00,769\n好 我 來 告 訴 你 好 了 金 融 研 訓 院 、 保 發 中 心 、 政 經 會 會 有 一 個 初 版 初 步 的 草 稿 然 後 呢 再 由 金 管 會 的 代 表 跟 外 部 的 學 者 來 做 評 比 我 只 想 問 那 像 這 種 永 續 金 融 的 評 鑑 的 指 標 有 沒 有 可 能 去 重 新 的 去 做 一 些 定 義 或 增 加 讓\n\n15\n00:05:02,230 --> 00:05:27,187\n普 惠 金 融 或 是 金 融 素 質 的 提 升 給 予 他 們 一 個 指 標 讓 他 們 有 一 個 方 向 因 為 你 只 要 目 標 設 定 正 確 這 個 部 分 就 可 以 達 到 本 席 提 出 來 這 個 其 實 我 是 認 為 有 現 在 這 麼 多 的 金 融 陷 阱 金 融 詐 騙 又 或 者 是 對 於 投 資 理 財 的 金 融 小 白 的 不 了 解 就 是 因 為 我 們 的 金 融 的 有 關 於 素 質 的 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詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n489\t22162\t委員好主委你好辛苦了我知道您是從學者轉任所以說今天我想提的這個題目的部分恐怕是要您也以過去在學界的立場來回應我5月8號的時候教育文化委員會曾經辦了一個公聽會那就是有關於現在\n23163\t48752\t立法委員們都希望推動所謂的青年基本法那麼在這樣場公聽會當中其實是沒有特別邀請財政包括財政部或是金管會來出席但是我覺得非常可惜我接下來所提的版本會把青年基本法加入有關於如何來提升我們青年朋友的普惠金融的這種金融素養\n49332\t63306\t因為根據金融研訓院所做的報告我們會發現20到29歲的年輕人是最無法抵抗所謂金融風險的一個世代剛剛前面的委員都在提到包括相關的比如\n64727\t78436\t金融陷阱又或者是相關的這個未來對於自己的時壓規劃或是金融詐騙甚至於我們誤觸這種所謂的在這個投資的投資陷阱其實都是跟我們無法抵擋金融風險\n80219\t80879\t金管會當然支持\n105509\t127464\t我們都知道提升這個國民的金融素養過去對金管會來說是非常重要的一個部分不然不會有像金融研訓院等等但是金融生活的普查我們會發現其實不只是年輕人包括一般的民眾居然高達78.1%他們的金融素質是屬於低或極低的\n128024\t145901\t那麼我們都知道我們一直在推所謂的ESG可是本席從過去四年在財委會我常常質疑我們的這個金融永續的報告都留於作文比賽然後大家只在乎一不是一不重要但是留於形式就會變成什麼\n147162\t172440\t減垃圾、辦園遊會、吃素我認為大家對一的概念已經已經到一定的水準之上但是對於金融生活的這個金融素養的提升我想問的是不論是主委或是莊部長莊部長有請我們可不可以在金融永續的評鑑指標上面來做一些進步比如說金融業怎麼樣提升國民的金融素養\n173120\t187026\t公股行戶怎麼帶頭來做金融扎根我們在ESG我們知道這個分分秒秒不論是上市櫃公司或是金融產業都希望做一個提高分數這每加一分都非常的不容易所以\n188386\t210158\t我想請問部長、莊部長跟彭主委有沒有可能在我們金融評鑑上面多加入把S2的普惠金融的實踐能夠具體化比如說是向下扎根或者是金融從業人員當中你有辦法去做一些協助呢我先請這個彭主委再請莊部長來回應\n211559\t239198\t我想金管會過去對這個金融普及是做了非常非常多當然還有待努力啦我想這部分我們可以來研究啊好部長呢是謝謝委員齁那其實金管會他在去年底已經有發布一個金融知識普及及工作的第7期推動計畫是113年到115年那這個部分呢就是要擴大金融機構去參與金融教育那這要走入社區走入校園\n240178\t259355\t讓我們的學生也好讓我們一般的民眾都能夠有一個金融的知識、常識以及涵養那這個公股金融事業也都配合這樣的一個計畫都無常的派員去當總指教師提供一些正確的金融知識我想這個部分我們的公股金融事業一直在做然後也是散盡一個企業的社會責任\n261417\t274768\t好 所以我想要問主委我知道你們一定都會立委都質詢了也都會正面肯定我就問 主委金融永續金融評鑑的這個評鑑指標你知道是哪些單位來訂定出來的嗎\n279135\t300769\t好 我來告訴你好了金融研訓院、保發中心、政經會會有一個初版初步的草稿然後呢再由金管會的代表跟外部的學者來做評比我只想問那像這種永續金融的評鑑的指標有沒有可能去重新的去做一些定義或增加讓\n302230\t327187\t普惠金融或是金融素質的提升給予他們一個指標讓他們有一個方向因為你只要目標設定正確這個部分就可以達到本席提出來這個其實我是認為有現在這麼多的金融陷阱金融詐騙又或者是對於投資理財的金融小白的不了解就是因為我們的金融的有關於素質的提升不夠\n328628\t332994\t主委有沒有可能在永續金融評鑑當中做一些修正?\n344841\t364067\t好因為每一年每一年都有評鑑那麼剛剛我也讓您知道了其實這幾個單位當中金管會都是上級的指導機關所以我希望金管會跟財政部公股行庫可以如何來推動有關於金融素質的提升可以做哪些協助是不是可以在\n365107\t380522\t各個分行或者是有什麼樣的方式可以處理我希望有一份報告那麼有關於金融素質的提升包括永續金融評鑑的指標怎麼樣做精進我也希望金管會在了解之後可以來給我一份報告跟交給我們財政委員會可以嗎\n381938\t383579\t謝謝林楚茵委員的質詢接下來我們請邱志偉委員質詢\n","txt":"委員好主委你好辛苦了我知道您是從學者轉任所以說今天我想提的這個題目的部分恐怕是要您也以過去在學界的立場來回應我5月8號的時候教育文化委員會曾經辦了一個公聽會那就是有關於現在\n立法委員們都希望推動所謂的青年基本法那麼在這樣場公聽會當中其實是沒有特別邀請財政包括財政部或是金管會來出席但是我覺得非常可惜我接下來所提的版本會把青年基本法加入有關於如何來提升我們青年朋友的普惠金融的這種金融素養\n因為根據金融研訓院所做的報告我們會發現20到29歲的年輕人是最無法抵抗所謂金融風險的一個世代剛剛前面的委員都在提到包括相關的比如\n金融陷阱又或者是相關的這個未來對於自己的時壓規劃或是金融詐騙甚至於我們誤觸這種所謂的在這個投資的投資陷阱其實都是跟我們無法抵擋金融風險\n金管會當然支持\n我們都知道提升這個國民的金融素養過去對金管會來說是非常重要的一個部分不然不會有像金融研訓院等等但是金融生活的普查我們會發現其實不只是年輕人包括一般的民眾居然高達78.1%他們的金融素質是屬於低或極低的\n那麼我們都知道我們一直在推所謂的ESG可是本席從過去四年在財委會我常常質疑我們的這個金融永續的報告都留於作文比賽然後大家只在乎一不是一不重要但是留於形式就會變成什麼\n減垃圾、辦園遊會、吃素我認為大家對一的概念已經已經到一定的水準之上但是對於金融生活的這個金融素養的提升我想問的是不論是主委或是莊部長莊部長有請我們可不可以在金融永續的評鑑指標上面來做一些進步比如說金融業怎麼樣提升國民的金融素養\n公股行戶怎麼帶頭來做金融扎根我們在ESG我們知道這個分分秒秒不論是上市櫃公司或是金融產業都希望做一個提高分數這每加一分都非常的不容易所以\n我想請問部長、莊部長跟彭主委有沒有可能在我們金融評鑑上面多加入把S2的普惠金融的實踐能夠具體化比如說是向下扎根或者是金融從業人員當中你有辦法去做一些協助呢我先請這個彭主委再請莊部長來回應\n我想金管會過去對這個金融普及是做了非常非常多當然還有待努力啦我想這部分我們可以來研究啊好部長呢是謝謝委員齁那其實金管會他在去年底已經有發布一個金融知識普及及工作的第7期推動計畫是113年到115年那這個部分呢就是要擴大金融機構去參與金融教育那這要走入社區走入校園\n讓我們的學生也好讓我們一般的民眾都能夠有一個金融的知識、常識以及涵養那這個公股金融事業也都配合這樣的一個計畫都無常的派員去當總指教師提供一些正確的金融知識我想這個部分我們的公股金融事業一直在做然後也是散盡一個企業的社會責任\n好 所以我想要問主委我知道你們一定都會立委都質詢了也都會正面肯定我就問 主委金融永續金融評鑑的這個評鑑指標你知道是哪些單位來訂定出來的嗎\n好 我來告訴你好了金融研訓院、保發中心、政經會會有一個初版初步的草稿然後呢再由金管會的代表跟外部的學者來做評比我只想問那像這種永續金融的評鑑的指標有沒有可能去重新的去做一些定義或增加讓\n普惠金融或是金融素質的提升給予他們一個指標讓他們有一個方向因為你只要目標設定正確這個部分就可以達到本席提出來這個其實我是認為有現在這麼多的金融陷阱金融詐騙又或者是對於投資理財的金融小白的不了解就是因為我們的金融的有關於素質的提升不夠\n主委有沒有可能在永續金融評鑑當中做一些修正?\n好因為每一年每一年都有評鑑那麼剛剛我也讓您知道了其實這幾個單位當中金管會都是上級的指導機關所以我希望金管會跟財政部公股行庫可以如何來推動有關於金融素質的提升可以做哪些協助是不是可以在\n各個分行或者是有什麼樣的方式可以處理我希望有一份報告那麼有關於金融素質的提升包括永續金融評鑑的指標怎麼樣做精進我也希望金管會在了解之後可以來給我一份報告跟交給我們財政委員會可以嗎\n謝謝林楚茵委員的質詢接下來我們請邱志偉委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.489 --> 00:22.162\n委 員 好 主 委 你 好 辛 苦 了 我 知 道 您 是 從 學 者 轉 任 所 以 說 今 天 我 想 提 的 這 個 題 目 的 部 分 恐 怕 是 要 您 也 以 過 去 在 學 界 的 立 場 來 回 應 我 5 月 8 號 的 時 候 教 育 文 化 委 員 會 曾 經 辦 了 一 個 公 聽 會 那 就 是 有 關 於 現 在\n\n00:23.163 --> 00:48.752\n立 法 委 員 們 都 希 望 推 動 所 謂 的 青 年 基 本 法 那 麼 在 這 樣 場 公 聽 會 當 中 其 實 是 沒 有 特 別 邀 請 財 政 包 括 財 政 部 或 是 金 管 會 來 出 席 但 是 我 覺 得 非 常 可 惜 我 接 下 來 所 提 的 版 本 會 把 青 年 基 本 法 加 入 有 關 於 如 何 來 提 升 我 們 青 年 朋 友 的 普 惠 金 融 的 這 種 金 融 素 養\n\n00:49.332 --> 01:03.306\n因 為 根 據 金 融 研 訓 院 所 做 的 報 告 我 們 會 發 現 2 0 到 2 9 歲 的 年 輕 人 是 最 無 法 抵 抗 所 謂 金 融 風 險 的 一 個 世 代 剛 剛 前 面 的 委 員 都 在 提 到 包 括 相 關 的 比 如\n\n01:04.727 --> 01:18.436\n金 融 陷 阱 又 或 者 是 相 關 的 這 個 未 來 對 於 自 己 的 時 壓 規 劃 或 是 金 融 詐 騙 甚 至 於 我 們 誤 觸 這 種 所 謂 的 在 這 個 投 資 的 投 資 陷 阱 其 實 都 是 跟 我 們 無 法 抵 擋 金 融 風 險\n\n01:20.219 --> 01:20.879\n金 管 會 當 然 支 持\n\n01:45.509 --> 02:07.464\n我 們 都 知 道 提 升 這 個 國 民 的 金 融 素 養 過 去 對 金 管 會 來 說 是 非 常 重 要 的 一 個 部 分 不 然 不 會 有 像 金 融 研 訓 院 等 等 但 是 金 融 生 活 的 普 查 我 們 會 發 現 其 實 不 只 是 年 輕 人 包 括 一 般 的 民 眾 居 然 高 達 7 8 . 1 % 他 們 的 金 融 素 質 是 屬 於 低 或 極 低 的\n\n02:08.024 --> 02:25.901\n那 麼 我 們 都 知 道 我 們 一 直 在 推 所 謂 的 E S G 可 是 本 席 從 過 去 四 年 在 財 委 會 我 常 常 質 疑 我 們 的 這 個 金 融 永 續 的 報 告 都 留 於 作 文 比 賽 然 後 大 家 只 在 乎 一 不 是 一 不 重 要 但 是 留 於 形 式 就 會 變 成 什 麼\n\n02:27.162 --> 02:52.440\n減 垃 圾 、 辦 園 遊 會 、 吃 素 我 認 為 大 家 對 一 的 概 念 已 經 已 經 到 一 定 的 水 準 之 上 但 是 對 於 金 融 生 活 的 這 個 金 融 素 養 的 提 升 我 想 問 的 是 不 論 是 主 委 或 是 莊 部 長 莊 部 長 有 請 我 們 可 不 可 以 在 金 融 永 續 的 評 鑑 指 標 上 面 來 做 一 些 進 步 比 如 說 金 融 業 怎 麼 樣 提 升 國 民 的 金 融 素 養\n\n02:53.120 --> 03:07.026\n公 股 行 戶 怎 麼 帶 頭 來 做 金 融 扎 根 我 們 在 E S G 我 們 知 道 這 個 分 分 秒 秒 不 論 是 上 市 櫃 公 司 或 是 金 融 產 業 都 希 望 做 一 個 提 高 分 數 這 每 加 一 分 都 非 常 的 不 容 易 所 以\n\n03:08.386 --> 03:30.158\n我 想 請 問 部 長 、 莊 部 長 跟 彭 主 委 有 沒 有 可 能 在 我 們 金 融 評 鑑 上 面 多 加 入 把 S 2 的 普 惠 金 融 的 實 踐 能 夠 具 體 化 比 如 說 是 向 下 扎 根 或 者 是 金 融 從 業 人 員 當 中 你 有 辦 法 去 做 一 些 協 助 呢 我 先 請 這 個 彭 主 委 再 請 莊 部 長 來 回 應\n\n03:31.559 --> 03:59.198\n我 想 金 管 會 過 去 對 這 個 金 融 普 及 是 做 了 非 常 非 常 多 當 然 還 有 待 努 力 啦 我 想 這 部 分 我 們 可 以 來 研 究 啊 好 部 長 呢 是 謝 謝 委 員 齁 那 其 實 金 管 會 他 在 去 年 底 已 經 有 發 布 一 個 金 融 知 識 普 及 及 工 作 的 第 7 期 推 動 計 畫 是 1 1 3 年 到 1 1 5 年 那 這 個 部 分 呢 就 是 要 擴 大 金 融 機 構 去 參 與 金 融 教 育 那 這 要 走 入 社 區 走 入 校 園\n\n04:00.178 --> 04:19.355\n讓 我 們 的 學 生 也 好 讓 我 們 一 般 的 民 眾 都 能 夠 有 一 個 金 融 的 知 識 、 常 識 以 及 涵 養 那 這 個 公 股 金 融 事 業 也 都 配 合 這 樣 的 一 個 計 畫 都 無 常 的 派 員 去 當 總 指 教 師 提 供 一 些 正 確 的 金 融 知 識 我 想 這 個 部 分 我 們 的 公 股 金 融 事 業 一 直 在 做 然 後 也 是 散 盡 一 個 企 業 的 社 會 責 任\n\n04:21.417 --> 04:34.768\n好 所 以 我 想 要 問 主 委 我 知 道 你 們 一 定 都 會 立 委 都 質 詢 了 也 都 會 正 面 肯 定 我 就 問 主 委 金 融 永 續 金 融 評 鑑 的 這 個 評 鑑 指 標 你 知 道 是 哪 些 單 位 來 訂 定 出 來 的 嗎\n\n04:39.135 --> 05:00.769\n好 我 來 告 訴 你 好 了 金 融 研 訓 院 、 保 發 中 心 、 政 經 會 會 有 一 個 初 版 初 步 的 草 稿 然 後 呢 再 由 金 管 會 的 代 表 跟 外 部 的 學 者 來 做 評 比 我 只 想 問 那 像 這 種 永 續 金 融 的 評 鑑 的 指 標 有 沒 有 可 能 去 重 新 的 去 做 一 些 定 義 或 增 加 讓\n\n05:02.230 --> 05:27.187\n普 惠 金 融 或 是 金 融 素 質 的 提 升 給 予 他 們 一 個 指 標 讓 他 們 有 一 個 方 向 因 為 你 只 要 目 標 設 定 正 確 這 個 部 分 就 可 以 達 到 本 席 提 出 來 這 個 其 實 我 是 認 為 有 現 在 這 麼 多 的 金 融 陷 阱 金 融 詐 騙 又 或 者 是 對 於 投 資 理 財 的 金 融 小 白 的 不 了 解 就 是 因 為 我 們 的 金 融 的 有 關 於 素 質 的 提 升 不 夠\n\n05:28.628 --> 05:32.994\n主 委 有 沒 有 可 能 在 永 續 金 融 評 鑑 當 中 做 一 些 修 正 ?\n\n05:44.841 --> 06:04.067\n好 因 為 每 一 年 每 一 年 都 有 評 鑑 那 麼 剛 剛 我 也 讓 您 知 道 了 其 實 這 幾 個 單 位 當 中 金 管 會 都 是 上 級 的 指 導 機 關 所 以 我 希 望 金 管 會 跟 財 政 部 公 股 行 庫 可 以 如 何 來 推 動 有 關 於 金 融 素 質 的 提 升 可 以 做 哪 些 協 助 是 不 是 可 以 在\n\n06:05.107 --> 06:20.522\n各 個 分 行 或 者 是 有 什 麼 樣 的 方 式 可 以 處 理 我 希 望 有 一 份 報 告 那 麼 有 關 於 金 融 素 質 的 提 升 包 括 永 續 金 融 評 鑑 的 指 標 怎 麼 樣 做 精 進 我 也 希 望 金 管 會 在 了 解 之 後 可 以 來 給 我 一 份 報 告 跟 交 給 我 們 財 政 委 員 會 可 以 嗎\n\n06:21.938 --> 06:23.579\n謝 謝 林 楚 茵 委 員 的 質 詢 接 下 來 我 們 請 邱 志 偉 委 員 質 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所以我想要問主委我知道你們一定都會立委都質詢了也都會正面肯定我就問 主委金融永續金融評鑑的這個評鑑指標你知道是哪些單位來訂定出來的嗎"},{"start":279.135,"end":300.769,"text":"好 我來告訴你好了金融研訓院、保發中心、政經會會有一個初版初步的草稿然後呢再由金管會的代表跟外部的學者來做評比我只想問那像這種永續金融的評鑑的指標有沒有可能去重新的去做一些定義或增加讓"},{"start":302.23,"end":327.187,"text":"普惠金融或是金融素質的提升給予他們一個指標讓他們有一個方向因為你只要目標設定正確這個部分就可以達到本席提出來這個其實我是認為有現在這麼多的金融陷阱金融詐騙又或者是對於投資理財的金融小白的不了解就是因為我們的金融的有關於素質的提升不夠"},{"start":328.628,"end":332.994,"text":"主委有沒有可能在永續金融評鑑當中做一些修正?"},{"start":344.841,"end":364.067,"text":"好因為每一年每一年都有評鑑那麼剛剛我也讓您知道了其實這幾個單位當中金管會都是上級的指導機關所以我希望金管會跟財政部公股行庫可以如何來推動有關於金融素質的提升可以做哪些協助是不是可以在"},{"start":365.107,"end":380.522,"text":"各個分行或者是有什麼樣的方式可以處理我希望有一份報告那麼有關於金融素質的提升包括永續金融評鑑的指標怎麼樣做精進我也希望金管會在了解之後可以來給我一份報告跟交給我們財政委員會可以嗎"},{"start":381.938,"end":383.579,"text":"謝謝林楚茵委員的質詢接下來我們請邱志偉委員質詢"}]}}}}