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00:03:09,676\n那我以前當立委或當議事公會理事長到那邊的時候我都覺得說哇怎麼這麼多秘密活動外交部那邊的消息社會團的人怎麼一下就不見、一下就不見那我們立委團就跑去國會參觀、去各個醫院參觀原來他們都在談這些雙邊的會議這次雙邊會議我才每一次每一場\n\n9\n00:03:18,140 --> 00:03:34,591\n不但要周全的準備我很敬佩能夠找到真的能夠找到那麼多的國家這個外交部我很敬佩而且成績都越來越高但是你會發現這一場這個水明說不能照相不能送禮不能公告\n\n10\n00:03:35,532 --> 00:03:59,197\n的很多表示說真的我們的外交的壓力還是相當的大那自己說剛剛有提過可以那個外交部有提過可以來公告可以來分享的話我們絕對沒有什麼好保留的一定要拿出來就像我們把WHA所有討論的健康議題我們一五一十在像去年我們就到那邊考察\n\n11\n00:04:00,738 --> 00:04:11,232\n衛環大會開考察會議就是希望完全公開WHA所有的任何的資訊讓國人都能夠來了解共同來為健康台灣來努力\n\n12\n00:04:12,264 --> 00:04:29,902\n好,我們很期待這樣的有新的目標或者是原來合作機制能夠持續延續而且對全民的健康在各方面都有很重要的這些努力要完成的部分讓大家都能夠很清楚的了解\n\n13\n00:04:30,842 --> 00:04:55,934\n再過來就是沿著剛剛王委員所提到的大流行公約的部分這部分其實本席非常非常的關心因為我們知道WHO裡面第14期的工作計畫六大優先領域裡面最後一項就是即時偵測並有效的因應健康衛生緊急事件我相信這個都是為了這一次的疫情所衍生出來的一些重要的議題\n\n14\n00:04:56,994 --> 00:05:08,785\n那在這個部分對於未來如果我們真的無法像剛剛一群副署長所提到的我們無法接受參與這個實際的這個討論的話\n\n15\n00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:33,410\n就是類似聯合國這樣的角色的時候那我們如何從疫苗的研發疫情當中的一些物資的儲備還有這個資訊的流通取得還有相關的研究這方面如何能夠讓國人也非常安心的知道即使我們不具有官方的這種\n\n16\n00:05:35,913 --> 00:05:37,896\n請讓國人安心知道我們努力的方向\n\n17\n00:05:51,138 --> 00:06:11,225\n好謝謝王委員我先以我過去多年來從SARS以及到COVID這幾年帶領團隊在全國的EJ在看配合政府在看這個COVID的一個經驗其實我們\n\n18\n00:06:14,352 --> 00:06:30,421\n我們的體系的韌性算相當的好所以大概都能夠早期在各個角落都能夠早期的detect到相關的信息或者實際上的個案其實像在海關\n\n19\n00:06:31,642 --> 00:06:43,362\n這也非常的辛苦他們鎖住每一個可能性到現在還是非常到現在還是非常的辛苦都日以繼夜在做這個我真的非常要感佩的這個\n\n20\n00:06:45,603 --> 00:06:45,623\n韓國媒體報導\n\n21\n00:07:15,923 --> 00:07:39,319\n像我在全國醫師公會主持過至少50場以上的全國各縣市的全國防疫會議和帶給全國分享全國的怎麼樣在第一線來防疫我想這個也是奠立掉很好的一個防疫的韌性所以未來相關的一些新興的疾病我相信台灣是很有實力來\n\n22\n00:07:41,361 --> 00:07:56,421\n來找期來偵測來守住但是大流行公園是一個大家這個好像是世界大家庭所應該共同來分享臺灣這樣的一個優等生卻不能進去這個教室去分享這個連世界醫師會都寫信給WHA的\n\n23\n00:07:59,224 --> 00:08:15,655\n律師長說這是一種羞恥的事情沒有讓臺灣這優等生進去分享當然我們也沒有那麼驕傲說去分享還有很多是要互相學習的但是總是要進去教事這個也是我們努力的方向我不曉得易經律師長有沒有要補充\n\n24\n00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:32,257\n呃簡單跟委員補充我想兩點第一個就是我們持續厚植我們國內防疫的一個基礎啦不管是防疫物資或者是疫苗藥品的一些準備那另外就國際幫我們善盡責任這個大流行公園是希望說能夠談出一個成果\n\n25\n00:08:32,697 --> 00:08:32,977\n獲得獲得獲得\n\n26\n00:08:58,208 --> 00:09:13,728\n好謝謝很期待台灣作為一個全球重要防疫的第一線我們希望能夠把握這樣的機會也能夠充分的參與好謝謝再過來要麻煩這個外交部有關於\n\n27\n00:09:15,089 --> 00:09:43,446\n如何能夠兩個部會之間相關的配合不曉得陳市長對於以價值外交來推動參與WHA或者是同步的透過臺灣這個醫療的實力有辦法讓全球知道說我們的這個衛生價值還有外交價值事實上是可以同步來運作讓世界可以看得到而且更願意來接納臺灣\n\n28\n00:09:45,502 --> 00:10:05,143\n謝謝委員您剛剛的這個質詢我們非常同意有就是說您剛剛所提到說因為我們本來就是一個極度重視而且非常努力去實踐提升關於法治人權自由民主的一個國家那尤其我們在公共醫療體系這樣的努力跟成果而且又是全世界\n\n29\n00:10:05,763 --> 00:10:24,547\n上任責任的一個義務的一個一份子所以當然未來我們在推動我們的外交工作裡面的一個主軸除了說同盟外交經貿外交以外就是價值外交那我們能夠其實在這個工作上面可以把這兩個相互結合也就是價值外交裡面一定有包含\n\n30\n00:10:25,047 --> 00:10:35,963\n我們所謂這個我們在公衛醫療體系上面的能量對這個世界的貢獻因為本來就是所謂的人權裡面就有健康的基本人權這是全世界都應該要重視台灣當然也可以貢獻\n\n31\n00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:58,314\n好謝謝其實這一次我有利用去到瑞士的機會也陪同我們的國民健康署的衛副署長去UICC就是世界抗癌聯盟一起去報告我們台灣在有關癌症的整個防護還有整個癌症\n\n32\n00:10:59,074 --> 00:11:00,835\n謝謝王建旭委員那我們現在休息10分鐘\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n10905\t13786\t謝謝主席有請邱部長邱部長好恭喜當部長而且很辛苦會中道人要繼續幫這個全民的健康還有疾病照顧的福祉一起來努力\n34415\t53471\t那這次也很高興有機會透過江副院長的率領以這個四島團的名義去參加相關的在瑞士的活動那在這個過程真的也非常感謝很多友邦還有友好國家、民團跟僑界共同努力期待讓台灣\n54572\t69649\t需要全球健康的維護得到一個公平對待的機會雖然很可惜我們還是得要真的要譴責中共跟巴基斯坦這一些國家那麼不友善\n71150\t95042\t讓我們臺灣的民眾無法接受 Health for all這樣的一個全球的要求不過還是非常感謝包括外交部的所有同仁都住在國的三位大使還有在現場的包括我們的外交部的同仁還有江科長共同的努力讓我們在這個過程裡面可以有機會去跟在瑞士的僑團跟相關的組織\n97143\t125905\t還有那邊的國會議員都有很好的互動那很想要了解的就是剛剛也有很多委員提到參與很多相關的這個雙邊會談那這些雙邊會談有一些有簽訂的模擬有一些有具體的一些內容那到底哪一些部分是可以利用這個機會再向國人做報告讓大家都能夠\n127186\t150118\t相對的瞭解在這個那麼辛苦的過程裡面因為我看你們這個6天的行程裡面拍得非常非常的充實回到台灣又要趕快來工作一定非常的辛苦不過這個充實的內容能不能有一些合作機制可以對打造健康台灣有幫助的部分也請利用這個機會來跟國務院做說明謝謝\n155061\t169201\t好,謝謝王委員的辛苦,而且在那邊代表世導團有卓越的貢獻也協助我們世衛行動團很大的幫助,非常的感謝\n170492\t189676\t那我以前當立委或當議事公會理事長到那邊的時候我都覺得說 哇 怎麼這麼多秘密活動 外交部那邊的消息 社會團的人怎麼一下就不見、一下就不見 那我們立委團就跑去國會參觀、去各個醫院參觀 原來他們都在談這些雙邊的會議 這次雙邊會議我才每一次每一場\n198140\t214591\t不但要周全的準備我很敬佩能夠找到真的能夠找到那麼多的國家這個外交部我很敬佩而且成績都越來越高但是你會發現這一場這個水明說不能照相不能送禮不能公告\n215532\t239197\t的很多表示說真的我們的外交的壓力還是相當的大那自己說剛剛有提過可以那個外交部有提過可以來公告可以來分享的話我們絕對沒有什麼好保留的一定要拿出來就像我們把WHA所有討論的健康議題我們一五一十在像去年我們就到那邊考察\n240738\t251232\t衛環大會開考察會議就是希望完全公開WHA所有的任何的資訊讓國人都能夠來了解共同來為健康台灣來努力\n252264\t269902\t好,我們很期待這樣的有新的目標或者是原來合作機制能夠持續延續而且對全民的健康在各方面都有很重要的這些努力要完成的部分讓大家都能夠很清楚的了解\n270842\t295934\t再過來就是沿著剛剛王委員所提到的大流行公約的部分這部分其實本席非常非常的關心因為我們知道WHO裡面第14期的工作計畫六大優先領域裡面最後一項就是即時偵測並有效的因應健康衛生緊急事件我相信這個都是為了這一次的疫情所衍生出來的一些重要的議題\n296994\t308785\t那在這個部分對於未來如果我們真的無法像剛剛一群副署長所提到的我們無法接受參與這個實際的這個討論的話\n313730\t333410\t就是類似聯合國這樣的角色的時候那我們如何從疫苗的研發疫情當中的一些物資的儲備還有這個資訊的流通取得還有相關的研究這方面如何能夠讓國人也非常安心的知道即使我們不具有官方的這種\n335913\t337896\t請讓國人安心知道我們努力的方向\n351138\t371225\t好謝謝王委員我先以我過去多年來從SARS以及到COVID這幾年帶領團隊在全國的EJ在看配合政府在看這個COVID的一個經驗其實我們\n374352\t390421\t我們的體系的韌性算相當的好所以大概都能夠早期在各個角落都能夠早期的detect到相關的信息或者實際上的個案其實像在海關\n391642\t403362\t這也非常的辛苦他們鎖住每一個可能性到現在還是非常到現在還是非常的辛苦都日以繼夜在做這個我真的非常要感佩的這個\n405603\t405623\t韓國媒體報導\n435923\t459319\t像我在全國醫師公會主持過至少50場以上的全國各縣市的全國防疫會議和帶給全國分享全國的怎麼樣在第一線來防疫我想這個也是奠立掉很好的一個防疫的韌性所以未來相關的一些新興的疾病我相信台灣是很有實力來\n461361\t476421\t來找期來偵測來守住但是大流行公園是一個大家這個好像是世界大家庭所應該共同來分享臺灣這樣的一個優等生卻不能進去這個教室去分享這個連世界醫師會都寫信給WHA的\n479224\t495655\t律師長說這是一種羞恥的事情沒有讓臺灣這優等生進去分享當然我們也沒有那麼驕傲說去分享還有很多是要互相學習的但是總是要進去教事這個也是我們努力的方向我不曉得易經律師長有沒有要補充\n497697\t512257\t呃簡單跟委員補充我想兩點第一個就是我們持續厚植我們國內防疫的一個基礎啦不管是防疫物資或者是疫苗藥品的一些準備那另外就國際幫我們善盡責任這個大流行公園是希望說能夠談出一個成果\n512697\t512977\t獲得獲得獲得\n538208\t553728\t好 謝謝很期待台灣作為一個全球重要防疫的第一線我們希望能夠把握這樣的機會也能夠充分的參與好 謝謝再過來要麻煩這個外交部有關於\n555089\t583446\t如何能夠兩個部會之間相關的配合不曉得陳市長對於以價值外交來推動參與WHA或者是同步的透過臺灣這個醫療的實力有辦法讓全球知道說我們的這個衛生價值還有外交價值事實上是可以同步來運作讓世界可以看得到而且更願意來接納臺灣\n585502\t605143\t謝謝委員您剛剛的這個質詢我們非常同意有就是說您剛剛所提到說因為我們本來就是一個極度重視而且非常努力去實踐提升關於法治人權自由民主的一個國家那尤其我們在公共醫療體系這樣的努力跟成果而且又是全世界\n605763\t624547\t上任責任的一個義務的一個一份子所以當然未來我們在推動我們的外交工作裡面的一個主軸除了說同盟外交經貿外交以外就是價值外交那我們能夠其實在這個工作上面可以把這兩個相互結合也就是價值外交裡面一定有包含\n625047\t635963\t我們所謂這個我們在公衛醫療體系上面的能量對這個世界的貢獻因為本來就是所謂的人權裡面就有健康的基本人權這是全世界都應該要重視台灣當然也可以貢獻\n636837\t658314\t好 謝謝其實這一次我有利用去到瑞士的機會也陪同我們的國民健康署的衛副署長去UICC就是世界抗癌聯盟一起去報告我們台灣在有關癌症的整個防護還有整個癌症\n659074\t660835\t謝謝王建旭委員那我們現在休息10分鐘\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請邱部長邱部長好恭喜當部長而且很辛苦會中道人要繼續幫這個全民的健康還有疾病照顧的福祉一起來努力\n那這次也很高興有機會透過江副院長的率領以這個四島團的名義去參加相關的在瑞士的活動那在這個過程真的也非常感謝很多友邦還有友好國家、民團跟僑界共同努力期待讓台灣\n需要全球健康的維護得到一個公平對待的機會雖然很可惜我們還是得要真的要譴責中共跟巴基斯坦這一些國家那麼不友善\n讓我們臺灣的民眾無法接受 Health for all這樣的一個全球的要求不過還是非常感謝包括外交部的所有同仁都住在國的三位大使還有在現場的包括我們的外交部的同仁還有江科長共同的努力讓我們在這個過程裡面可以有機會去跟在瑞士的僑團跟相關的組織\n還有那邊的國會議員都有很好的互動那很想要了解的就是剛剛也有很多委員提到參與很多相關的這個雙邊會談那這些雙邊會談有一些有簽訂的模擬有一些有具體的一些內容那到底哪一些部分是可以利用這個機會再向國人做報告讓大家都能夠\n相對的瞭解在這個那麼辛苦的過程裡面因為我看你們這個6天的行程裡面拍得非常非常的充實回到台灣又要趕快來工作一定非常的辛苦不過這個充實的內容能不能有一些合作機制可以對打造健康台灣有幫助的部分也請利用這個機會來跟國務院做說明謝謝\n好,謝謝王委員的辛苦,而且在那邊代表世導團有卓越的貢獻也協助我們世衛行動團很大的幫助,非常的感謝\n那我以前當立委或當議事公會理事長到那邊的時候我都覺得說 哇 怎麼這麼多秘密活動 外交部那邊的消息 社會團的人怎麼一下就不見、一下就不見 那我們立委團就跑去國會參觀、去各個醫院參觀 原來他們都在談這些雙邊的會議 這次雙邊會議我才每一次每一場\n不但要周全的準備我很敬佩能夠找到真的能夠找到那麼多的國家這個外交部我很敬佩而且成績都越來越高但是你會發現這一場這個水明說不能照相不能送禮不能公告\n的很多表示說真的我們的外交的壓力還是相當的大那自己說剛剛有提過可以那個外交部有提過可以來公告可以來分享的話我們絕對沒有什麼好保留的一定要拿出來就像我們把WHA所有討論的健康議題我們一五一十在像去年我們就到那邊考察\n衛環大會開考察會議就是希望完全公開WHA所有的任何的資訊讓國人都能夠來了解共同來為健康台灣來努力\n好,我們很期待這樣的有新的目標或者是原來合作機制能夠持續延續而且對全民的健康在各方面都有很重要的這些努力要完成的部分讓大家都能夠很清楚的了解\n再過來就是沿著剛剛王委員所提到的大流行公約的部分這部分其實本席非常非常的關心因為我們知道WHO裡面第14期的工作計畫六大優先領域裡面最後一項就是即時偵測並有效的因應健康衛生緊急事件我相信這個都是為了這一次的疫情所衍生出來的一些重要的議題\n那在這個部分對於未來如果我們真的無法像剛剛一群副署長所提到的我們無法接受參與這個實際的這個討論的話\n就是類似聯合國這樣的角色的時候那我們如何從疫苗的研發疫情當中的一些物資的儲備還有這個資訊的流通取得還有相關的研究這方面如何能夠讓國人也非常安心的知道即使我們不具有官方的這種\n請讓國人安心知道我們努力的方向\n好謝謝王委員我先以我過去多年來從SARS以及到COVID這幾年帶領團隊在全國的EJ在看配合政府在看這個COVID的一個經驗其實我們\n我們的體系的韌性算相當的好所以大概都能夠早期在各個角落都能夠早期的detect到相關的信息或者實際上的個案其實像在海關\n這也非常的辛苦他們鎖住每一個可能性到現在還是非常到現在還是非常的辛苦都日以繼夜在做這個我真的非常要感佩的這個\n韓國媒體報導\n像我在全國醫師公會主持過至少50場以上的全國各縣市的全國防疫會議和帶給全國分享全國的怎麼樣在第一線來防疫我想這個也是奠立掉很好的一個防疫的韌性所以未來相關的一些新興的疾病我相信台灣是很有實力來\n來找期來偵測來守住但是大流行公園是一個大家這個好像是世界大家庭所應該共同來分享臺灣這樣的一個優等生卻不能進去這個教室去分享這個連世界醫師會都寫信給WHA的\n律師長說這是一種羞恥的事情沒有讓臺灣這優等生進去分享當然我們也沒有那麼驕傲說去分享還有很多是要互相學習的但是總是要進去教事這個也是我們努力的方向我不曉得易經律師長有沒有要補充\n呃簡單跟委員補充我想兩點第一個就是我們持續厚植我們國內防疫的一個基礎啦不管是防疫物資或者是疫苗藥品的一些準備那另外就國際幫我們善盡責任這個大流行公園是希望說能夠談出一個成果\n獲得獲得獲得\n好 謝謝很期待台灣作為一個全球重要防疫的第一線我們希望能夠把握這樣的機會也能夠充分的參與好 謝謝再過來要麻煩這個外交部有關於\n如何能夠兩個部會之間相關的配合不曉得陳市長對於以價值外交來推動參與WHA或者是同步的透過臺灣這個醫療的實力有辦法讓全球知道說我們的這個衛生價值還有外交價值事實上是可以同步來運作讓世界可以看得到而且更願意來接納臺灣\n謝謝委員您剛剛的這個質詢我們非常同意有就是說您剛剛所提到說因為我們本來就是一個極度重視而且非常努力去實踐提升關於法治人權自由民主的一個國家那尤其我們在公共醫療體系這樣的努力跟成果而且又是全世界\n上任責任的一個義務的一個一份子所以當然未來我們在推動我們的外交工作裡面的一個主軸除了說同盟外交經貿外交以外就是價值外交那我們能夠其實在這個工作上面可以把這兩個相互結合也就是價值外交裡面一定有包含\n我們所謂這個我們在公衛醫療體系上面的能量對這個世界的貢獻因為本來就是所謂的人權裡面就有健康的基本人權這是全世界都應該要重視台灣當然也可以貢獻\n好 謝謝其實這一次我有利用去到瑞士的機會也陪同我們的國民健康署的衛副署長去UICC就是世界抗癌聯盟一起去報告我們台灣在有關癌症的整個防護還有整個癌症\n謝謝王建旭委員那我們現在休息10分鐘\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:10.905 --> 00:13.786\n謝謝主席有請邱部長邱部長好恭喜當部長而且很辛苦會中道人要繼續幫這個全民的健康還有疾病照顧的福祉一起來努力\n\n00:34.415 --> 00:53.471\n那這次也很高興有機會透過江副院長的率領以這個四島團的名義去參加相關的在瑞士的活動那在這個過程真的也非常感謝很多友邦還有友好國家、民團跟僑界共同努力期待讓台灣\n\n00:54.572 --> 01:09.649\n需要全球健康的維護得到一個公平對待的機會雖然很可惜我們還是得要真的要譴責中共跟巴基斯坦這一些國家那麼不友善\n\n01:11.150 --> 01:35.042\n讓我們臺灣的民眾無法接受Healthforall這樣的一個全球的要求不過還是非常感謝包括外交部的所有同仁都住在國的三位大使還有在現場的包括我們的外交部的同仁還有江科長共同的努力讓我們在這個過程裡面可以有機會去跟在瑞士的僑團跟相關的組織\n\n01:37.143 --> 02:05.905\n還有那邊的國會議員都有很好的互動那很想要了解的就是剛剛也有很多委員提到參與很多相關的這個雙邊會談那這些雙邊會談有一些有簽訂的模擬有一些有具體的一些內容那到底哪一些部分是可以利用這個機會再向國人做報告讓大家都能夠\n\n02:07.186 --> 02:30.118\n相對的瞭解在這個那麼辛苦的過程裡面因為我看你們這個6天的行程裡面拍得非常非常的充實回到台灣又要趕快來工作一定非常的辛苦不過這個充實的內容能不能有一些合作機制可以對打造健康台灣有幫助的部分也請利用這個機會來跟國務院做說明謝謝\n\n02:35.061 --> 02:49.201\n好,謝謝王委員的辛苦,而且在那邊代表世導團有卓越的貢獻也協助我們世衛行動團很大的幫助,非常的感謝\n\n02:50.492 --> 03:09.676\n那我以前當立委或當議事公會理事長到那邊的時候我都覺得說哇怎麼這麼多秘密活動外交部那邊的消息社會團的人怎麼一下就不見、一下就不見那我們立委團就跑去國會參觀、去各個醫院參觀原來他們都在談這些雙邊的會議這次雙邊會議我才每一次每一場\n\n03:18.140 --> 03:34.591\n不但要周全的準備我很敬佩能夠找到真的能夠找到那麼多的國家這個外交部我很敬佩而且成績都越來越高但是你會發現這一場這個水明說不能照相不能送禮不能公告\n\n03:35.532 --> 03:59.197\n的很多表示說真的我們的外交的壓力還是相當的大那自己說剛剛有提過可以那個外交部有提過可以來公告可以來分享的話我們絕對沒有什麼好保留的一定要拿出來就像我們把WHA所有討論的健康議題我們一五一十在像去年我們就到那邊考察\n\n04:00.738 --> 04:11.232\n衛環大會開考察會議就是希望完全公開WHA所有的任何的資訊讓國人都能夠來了解共同來為健康台灣來努力\n\n04:12.264 --> 04:29.902\n好,我們很期待這樣的有新的目標或者是原來合作機制能夠持續延續而且對全民的健康在各方面都有很重要的這些努力要完成的部分讓大家都能夠很清楚的了解\n\n04:30.842 --> 04:55.934\n再過來就是沿著剛剛王委員所提到的大流行公約的部分這部分其實本席非常非常的關心因為我們知道WHO裡面第14期的工作計畫六大優先領域裡面最後一項就是即時偵測並有效的因應健康衛生緊急事件我相信這個都是為了這一次的疫情所衍生出來的一些重要的議題\n\n04:56.994 --> 05:08.785\n那在這個部分對於未來如果我們真的無法像剛剛一群副署長所提到的我們無法接受參與這個實際的這個討論的話\n\n05:13.730 --> 05:33.410\n就是類似聯合國這樣的角色的時候那我們如何從疫苗的研發疫情當中的一些物資的儲備還有這個資訊的流通取得還有相關的研究這方面如何能夠讓國人也非常安心的知道即使我們不具有官方的這種\n\n05:35.913 --> 05:37.896\n請讓國人安心知道我們努力的方向\n\n05:51.138 --> 06:11.225\n好謝謝王委員我先以我過去多年來從SARS以及到COVID這幾年帶領團隊在全國的EJ在看配合政府在看這個COVID的一個經驗其實我們\n\n06:14.352 --> 06:30.421\n我們的體系的韌性算相當的好所以大概都能夠早期在各個角落都能夠早期的detect到相關的信息或者實際上的個案其實像在海關\n\n06:31.642 --> 06:43.362\n這也非常的辛苦他們鎖住每一個可能性到現在還是非常到現在還是非常的辛苦都日以繼夜在做這個我真的非常要感佩的這個\n\n06:45.603 --> 06:45.623\n韓國媒體報導\n\n07:15.923 --> 07:39.319\n像我在全國醫師公會主持過至少50場以上的全國各縣市的全國防疫會議和帶給全國分享全國的怎麼樣在第一線來防疫我想這個也是奠立掉很好的一個防疫的韌性所以未來相關的一些新興的疾病我相信台灣是很有實力來\n\n07:41.361 --> 07:56.421\n來找期來偵測來守住但是大流行公園是一個大家這個好像是世界大家庭所應該共同來分享臺灣這樣的一個優等生卻不能進去這個教室去分享這個連世界醫師會都寫信給WHA的\n\n07:59.224 --> 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這次雙邊會議我才每一次每一場"},{"start":198.14,"end":214.591,"text":"不但要周全的準備我很敬佩能夠找到真的能夠找到那麼多的國家這個外交部我很敬佩而且成績都越來越高但是你會發現這一場這個水明說不能照相不能送禮不能公告"},{"start":215.532,"end":239.197,"text":"的很多表示說真的我們的外交的壓力還是相當的大那自己說剛剛有提過可以那個外交部有提過可以來公告可以來分享的話我們絕對沒有什麼好保留的一定要拿出來就像我們把WHA所有討論的健康議題我們一五一十在像去年我們就到那邊考察"},{"start":240.738,"end":251.232,"text":"衛環大會開考察會議就是希望完全公開WHA所有的任何的資訊讓國人都能夠來了解共同來為健康台灣來努力"},{"start":252.264,"end":269.902,"text":"好,我們很期待這樣的有新的目標或者是原來合作機制能夠持續延續而且對全民的健康在各方面都有很重要的這些努力要完成的部分讓大家都能夠很清楚的了解"},{"start":270.842,"end":295.934,"text":"再過來就是沿著剛剛王委員所提到的大流行公約的部分這部分其實本席非常非常的關心因為我們知道WHO裡面第14期的工作計畫六大優先領域裡面最後一項就是即時偵測並有效的因應健康衛生緊急事件我相信這個都是為了這一次的疫情所衍生出來的一些重要的議題"},{"start":296.994,"end":308.785,"text":"那在這個部分對於未來如果我們真的無法像剛剛一群副署長所提到的我們無法接受參與這個實際的這個討論的話"},{"start":313.73,"end":333.41,"text":"就是類似聯合國這樣的角色的時候那我們如何從疫苗的研發疫情當中的一些物資的儲備還有這個資訊的流通取得還有相關的研究這方面如何能夠讓國人也非常安心的知道即使我們不具有官方的這種"},{"start":335.913,"end":337.896,"text":"請讓國人安心知道我們努力的方向"},{"start":351.138,"end":371.225,"text":"好謝謝王委員我先以我過去多年來從SARS以及到COVID這幾年帶領團隊在全國的EJ在看配合政府在看這個COVID的一個經驗其實我們"},{"start":374.352,"end":390.421,"text":"我們的體系的韌性算相當的好所以大概都能夠早期在各個角落都能夠早期的detect到相關的信息或者實際上的個案其實像在海關"},{"start":391.642,"end":403.362,"text":"這也非常的辛苦他們鎖住每一個可能性到現在還是非常到現在還是非常的辛苦都日以繼夜在做這個我真的非常要感佩的這個"},{"start":405.603,"end":405.623,"text":"韓國媒體報導"},{"start":435.923,"end":459.319,"text":"像我在全國醫師公會主持過至少50場以上的全國各縣市的全國防疫會議和帶給全國分享全國的怎麼樣在第一線來防疫我想這個也是奠立掉很好的一個防疫的韌性所以未來相關的一些新興的疾病我相信台灣是很有實力來"},{"start":461.361,"end":476.421,"text":"來找期來偵測來守住但是大流行公園是一個大家這個好像是世界大家庭所應該共同來分享臺灣這樣的一個優等生卻不能進去這個教室去分享這個連世界醫師會都寫信給WHA的"},{"start":479.224,"end":495.655,"text":"律師長說這是一種羞恥的事情沒有讓臺灣這優等生進去分享當然我們也沒有那麼驕傲說去分享還有很多是要互相學習的但是總是要進去教事這個也是我們努力的方向我不曉得易經律師長有沒有要補充"},{"start":497.697,"end":512.257,"text":"呃簡單跟委員補充我想兩點第一個就是我們持續厚植我們國內防疫的一個基礎啦不管是防疫物資或者是疫苗藥品的一些準備那另外就國際幫我們善盡責任這個大流行公園是希望說能夠談出一個成果"},{"start":512.697,"end":512.977,"text":"獲得獲得獲得"},{"start":538.208,"end":553.728,"text":"好 謝謝很期待台灣作為一個全球重要防疫的第一線我們希望能夠把握這樣的機會也能夠充分的參與好 謝謝再過來要麻煩這個外交部有關於"},{"start":555.089,"end":583.446,"text":"如何能夠兩個部會之間相關的配合不曉得陳市長對於以價值外交來推動參與WHA或者是同步的透過臺灣這個醫療的實力有辦法讓全球知道說我們的這個衛生價值還有外交價值事實上是可以同步來運作讓世界可以看得到而且更願意來接納臺灣"},{"start":585.502,"end":605.143,"text":"謝謝委員您剛剛的這個質詢我們非常同意有就是說您剛剛所提到說因為我們本來就是一個極度重視而且非常努力去實踐提升關於法治人權自由民主的一個國家那尤其我們在公共醫療體系這樣的努力跟成果而且又是全世界"},{"start":605.763,"end":624.547,"text":"上任責任的一個義務的一個一份子所以當然未來我們在推動我們的外交工作裡面的一個主軸除了說同盟外交經貿外交以外就是價值外交那我們能夠其實在這個工作上面可以把這兩個相互結合也就是價值外交裡面一定有包含"},{"start":625.047,"end":635.963,"text":"我們所謂這個我們在公衛醫療體系上面的能量對這個世界的貢獻因為本來就是所謂的人權裡面就有健康的基本人權這是全世界都應該要重視台灣當然也可以貢獻"},{"start":636.837,"end":658.314,"text":"好 謝謝其實這一次我有利用去到瑞士的機會也陪同我們的國民健康署的衛副署長去UICC就是世界抗癌聯盟一起去報告我們台灣在有關癌症的整個防護還有整個癌症"},{"start":659.074,"end":660.835,"text":"謝謝王建旭委員那我們現在休息10分鐘"}]}}}}