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剛聽到你這邊一席話\n未完成的夢想但是如果說能夠在這個公部門做事不管公司部門一起為我們所有不管是產業或者是運動行業來努力我想這是必要的尤其是我們現在都一直努力本期2020年的時候就開始要求倡議說能夠成立運動發展部最主要運動發展其實不只是體育項目還有產業\n所以也希望說未來運動發展部如果說真的能夠成立的時候產業端的部分能夠跟經濟部多一些配合跟合作是的部長不過還是跟您就教AI的議題是非常火熱那本席早上有跟國科會這邊請教到底我們未來五年內短暫的時間因為之前你也有提過說可能2025到2028\n2025到2028這個會是一個第一波的一個AI浪潮那台灣一定要跑在領先群對不對那我們預估到底我們的人才需求有多少我們的人才看我們展延到什麼樣的一個程度我想在這個LAM的部分其實這個非常專業這個一定是要透過國外的這個大的數據中心他們帶進來\n應該是分兩塊啦 核心技術人才跟一般普遍行業人才我立下了一個到117年為止希望替台灣訓練20萬名對不對 這在你的報告第三頁裡面有提到但這20萬名裡面是包括說民間一般以及學校大學端的養成\n學校還有這個公司的學會那麼企業還有這個縣市政府所以總共在117年裡面希望能夠培養20萬名是能夠投入到民間一般行業都可以運用AI沒有錯那相關的計畫勒因為本期今天早上請教國科會的主委喔國科會主委是答不出說需求有多少\n因為我還沒有跟他討論這一部分我認為在經濟部我們有很大的中小企業在中小企業的部分我們要趕快讓他提升他的競爭力\n所以導入AI的應用對中小企業來講是非常有好的幫助的那像他技術可以提升然後市場可以擴大所以這一部分的應用這個才有辦法讓中小企業能夠加值上來而且甚至大家都講到說AI的應用未來可能包括說機器人他的一個運作因為機器人是硬體AI是軟體\nAI的部分我們大概就在發展在應用軟體的部分\n中小企業那種家或者是微型的企業所以我們一定要設計一些輔助他\n部長：\n所以現在是做實事的部分因為你已經講到是說117年等於2028年要培養20萬名的人才嘛那這個不管是學校不管是民間培養不管是可能社會新鮮人我已經出了畢業但我都還可以獲得一些課程來去增進我AI知識然後來去投入這樣的產業所以看起來這是多部會喔\n這不是只是單一部會 經濟部 國科會 教育部 大學端會納進來所以這樣子的一個計畫由誰 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