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00:02:23,337\n中國的壓力讓我們在在很多科技的互動\n\n8\n00:02:51,400 --> 00:03:17,646\n那的確會受到影響那以整體來講比如說你如果是WHA會員你自然就是你是教室的學生你這個學校就一定給你什麼資料什麼就給你看你如果什麼也沒有這樣子所以資訊第一手的資訊一定是可能應該會有落差資訊是內容上的落差還是時效性的落差\n\n9\n00:03:18,973 --> 00:03:32,458\n就是說內容性跟時效性當然都有落差,內容也會有嗎?一定有啊,但是拿不到他們的資料,我們都必須要從各種角度我們有沒有辦法從其他的管道拿到?\n\n10\n00:03:34,298 --> 00:03:51,390\n其實國際上還是有很多國家是很支持臺灣的啊?絕對可以因為公共衛生的主題其實重要的就是那些對嘛所以比如說他重視的不管是以前的任何TB啦或任何相關的課題\n\n11\n00:03:53,654 --> 00:04:04,698\n我們都非常掌握得很清楚其實就是說我自己的看法當然臺灣我們作為世界的議員就是盡可能的參加各種國際組織參與國際會議\n\n12\n00:04:17,742 --> 00:04:22,008\n那我為什麼問這個題目呢就是說因為幾乎每一年到這個時候臺灣就會討論到能不能成為觀察員啊能不能參與世衛大會啊\n\n13\n00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:57,940\n我是怕因為其實他也不是一個醫學的提升的會議他是公衛層面的東西我覺得我們有義務讓國人知道說雖然中國的打壓所以台灣沒有辦法進入這個會議可是我們\n\n14\n00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:23,213\n我們還是可以透過其他管道甚至於世衛大會要開會的題目其實大概在過去一年會有什麼樣子的重要提綱大家也都知道我們盡可能的不要讓國人誤以為說我們沒有去參加WHA\n\n15\n00:05:25,155 --> 00:05:46,756\n會讓台灣的公衛跟全球有落差甚至於以防疫、以COVID-19這幾年台灣其實在公衛體系的能力是強的我常常跟很多朋友講台灣假如不是防疫做得好\n\n16\n00:05:48,376 --> 00:06:17,010\n怎麼會經濟的成果這麼顯著所以我是希望部裡面可以就這一個部分跟國人做個清楚的說明不要讓國人以為說我們沒有去第一是不是醫學方面我們會有落差第二是不是會對台灣的公衛有很大的影響\n\n17\n00:06:18,474 --> 00:06:41,039\n其實我很清楚我的判斷是不會因為它不是醫學類的公衛體系的那公衛體系呢就像剛剛講的事前的提綱其實過去一年大家注重的哪一些題目大概我們也有掌握那我們縱使沒有參與討論沒有發表我們的經驗\n\n18\n00:06:47,444 --> 00:07:07,301\n可是事後我們還是有很多對台友好的國家會提供資料給我們我覺得這個是不是部裡面可以加強宣傳我覺得這個很重要因為這個幾乎每一年這樣子的今天這個題目大概每一年未完都會討論一次\n\n19\n00:07:10,003 --> 00:07:28,764\n我希望部長因為你從當民意代表到現在當政務官你都有參與我希望可以部長可以我完全同意楊委員的見解我們真的雖然的確我個人是真的沒有參加WHA、WHA\n\n20\n00:07:30,686 --> 00:07:57,397\n是一種尊嚴、人權的問題但是我們台灣的鬥志就好像COVID-19來的時候我當時當醫師公會理事長我有見你SARS的時候死掉不少醫護人員所以我就對全國的各醫師公會宣告說我們不能再發生任何一個醫護人員以及民眾有\n\n21\n00:07:58,437 --> 00:08:02,399\n臺灣人如果都愛這個臺灣然後貢獻所有的自己的專長那醫療人員也願意來把他的專業貢獻我覺得\n\n22\n00:08:24,989 --> 00:08:50,634\n我們永遠都是在領先世界的一位的水準部長的這段話呢就剛好說明了我們在過去疫情的期間公部門跟民間團體公司合力然後民眾的配合其實台灣的公衛應該是必須要我個人的看法是\n\n23\n00:08:53,873 --> 00:09:04,119\n市委大會我們沒有辦法參加我覺得這個真的就是部長講的這是主權的問題而且我也覺得這是\n\n24\n00:09:08,089 --> 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