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00:01:30,778\n我們最晚最晚6月底一定會出來因為委員會已經加開一次了那現在是在等這個被調查單位的陳述意見來那我們6月14日如果確定他們陳述意見是是可以被接納或是委員會裡面同意的話我們6月底以前一定會發布被調查單位的陳述意見是台中市政府嗎很多單位還有誰\n\n5\n00:01:31,582 --> 00:01:50,933\n還有捷運局．還有．還有四人羽球公司等等都有很多單位所以他們是6月什麼時候會把這個陳蘇伊健送進我們議員會6月14號以前就會陳蘇伊健會進來這是最後的因為委員會已經開過兩次最後一次會做最後的一個6月14號送進議員會那什麼時候會有這個修正報告最後的結論出來\n\n6\n00:01:59,938 --> 00:02:24,000\n因為我想我還是要跟主委報告因為這份這個議員會的調查報告會影響到後續的不管是行政處分也好後續的賠償也好所以我們才會覺得說已經過了一年很多人都忘記了但是因為其實這個我想不管是家屬也好還是市政府台中內部也好其實這個問題一直延續到現在還沒有辦法有一個明確答案所以大家比較急啊所以我想知道6月底前確定會有嗎\n\n7\n00:02:24,801 --> 00:02:49,529\n一定會有好主委謝謝謝謝主委接下來一樣討論到這個邊坡管理的問題我想一樣在同樣在交通委員會因為今年我想地震多這個下雨也多所以說是今年的這種邊坡事故特別多我想今年5月16的時候交通委員會我們才召開針對公路系統道路跟橋樑安全改善辦理情形的專題報告那當初市長也有在場還是請市長一起來好了\n\n8\n00:02:52,043 --> 00:03:14,496\n我想這個5月16才開完這所謂的針對邊坡的改善作為那不到一個月又再次發生了基隆山崩的意外那我們希望說這個到底全台灣的C級邊坡的狀況當初有要求要去盤點那預計7月也就是一個月後要來公佈那現在6月就發生這個事情所以想了解一下到底現在交通部盤點的狀況如何\n\n9\n00:03:16,937 --> 00:03:43,894\n那牌理的過程裡面有沒有包含了包含這一次這個基隆這個事件的這個這個邊坡我想那個事件發生以後部長對外說明就是要在一個月內要把做西級的邊坡總體檢那至於說公路總局的部分他在這個邊坡的這個體檢裡面也一定會包含這樣的一個邊坡而且他會依照這次邊坡的特性局長在這個檢這個報\n\n10\n00:03:45,875 --> 00:04:11,433\n書面報告裡頭已經有說過了他會依照地調所的相關的一個徒資再去套疊相關的公路局的相關的邊坡來加強這樣的邊坡的一個體檢市長那像這一次基隆的這個這個邊坡有在你們的目前的範圍裡面嗎在我們的西齊邊坡裡面是有在裡面嗎是所以本來就知道他可能會有潛在的風險\n\n11\n00:04:13,204 --> 00:04:33,664\n他是屬於我們列管的邊坡啦是列管的邊坡這個列管邊坡裡面還有一個問題就是我們高中的地球科學就知道了因為我這個高中那時候有這個921的問題啊所以林肯大峻是因為發生在順向坡那到底像全台灣這種順向坡逆向坡公路旁邊的順向坡你們有沒有做一次的完整的盤點\n\n12\n00:04:34,464 --> 00:04:58,715\n我想跟委員報告一下在這個應該是國三走三的時候當時就是全面的就順向坡做一個總提携而且也做了相關的因應的一個處理如果要加裝地貓地貓檢測等等的這個在不管是公路也好或高速公路上甚至包含台鐵高鐵大概對於順向坡都有做一些處理\n\n13\n00:04:59,355 --> 00:05:15,041\n那這一次這個比較特別的是他一些逆向協調的一個走勢所以這部分我們會在這一次裡頭也會納為這個就是總體檢的一個對象好次長謝謝那我們再看下一頁其實我們要問一個數據\n\n14\n00:05:16,201 --> 00:05:38,797\n我想這個目前公路局提供了相關的公路邊坡的這個問題大概有全台灣有1700多處這個有被列管了這麼多那當初這個新部長上來之後要求一個月內要檢測完那到底第一個問題是說邊坡的分級你們要怎麼分的那第二個是被劃設為C級邊坡他是依靠直批跟外觀來判定有危險嗎\n\n15\n00:05:39,437 --> 00:05:46,363\n他用什麼方式來檢測是靠科技還是靠人力就是到底這個你檢測的標準跟定義的標準是什麼\n\n16\n00:05:50,095 --> 00:06:09,747\n報告一下我剛才有稍微講過他有定性的一個描述跟定量的一個評分來區分這個所謂的這個ABCD級的邊坡甚至還剛才大家有討論到所謂的關注的一個邊坡是用這樣的方式所以他是科學化的而不是說今天數量\n\n17\n00:06:11,429 --> 00:06:35,938\n數量這麼多那你剛剛提到的不管是用科技的方式你剛剛去定去測的方式我有沒有辦法在一個月內把這1700多處都測完我們原則上是就在這裡的C級邊坡603處來做一些總體檢做一些檢查那依照以往總體檢的一個結果大概就會做一些原則上會做一些升級啦就是說也會發現到一些問題然後把這個C級往B級的邊坡來做\n\n18\n00:06:39,380 --> 00:07:04,078\n另外一個問題就是民眾也擔心一件事情就是因為過去這是過去訂出來的標準那這今年當然今年特別好像地震比較多一點那再加上這一次基隆崩塌地點的旁邊兩公里之前也發生過類似的事11年前也發生過這個山崩所以在定義的時候還有在這個列管的方向上面會不會因為地震改變了我們的地形地勢之後會有影響\n\n19\n00:07:05,703 --> 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次長謝謝那我們再看下一頁其實我們要問一個數據\n316201\t338797\t我想這個目前公路局提供了相關的公路邊坡的這個問題大概有全台灣有1700多處這個有被列管了這麼多那當初這個新部長上來之後要求一個月內要檢測完那到底第一個問題是說邊坡的分級你們要怎麼分的那第二個是被劃設為C級邊坡他是依靠直批跟外觀來判定有危險嗎\n339437\t346363\t他用什麼方式來檢測是靠科技還是靠人力就是到底這個你檢測的標準跟定義的標準是什麼\n350095\t369747\t報告一下我剛才有稍微講過他有定性的一個描述跟定量的一個評分來區分這個所謂的這個ABCD級的邊坡甚至還剛才大家有討論到所謂的關注的一個邊坡是用這樣的方式所以他是科學化的而不是說今天數量\n371429\t395938\t數量這麼多那你剛剛提到的不管是用科技的方式你剛剛去定去測的方式我有沒有辦法在一個月內把這1700多處都測完我們原則上是就在這裡的C級邊坡603處來做一些總體檢做一些檢查那依照以往總體檢的一個結果大概就會做一些原則上會做一些升級啦就是說也會發現到一些問題然後把這個C級往B級的邊坡來做\n399380\t424078\t另外一個問題就是民眾也擔心一件事情就是因為過去這是過去訂出來的標準那這今年當然今年特別好像地震比較多一點那再加上這一次基隆崩塌地點的旁邊兩公里之前也發生過類似的事11年前也發生過這個山崩所以在定義的時候還有在這個列管的方向上面會不會因為地震改變了我們的地形地勢之後會有影響\n425703\t450258\t我想這個地震也好或是豪雨也好或是颱風也好這種比較特殊的這個天候的影響或是氣象的影響都會改變我們這個邊坡的一個分級我們都會回饋回來做一些調整會所以這個數據到時候再調整嗎會會調整會會就是這7月份的報告裡面它的數字就不會跟現在一樣會會一定會會做一些調整好謝謝市長謝謝主委\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我們先請運輸安全調查委員林主委林主委請主委好主委這個你有來自台中關心一件事情\n去年5月的時候臺中的發生捷運事故那目前已經超過一年了那4月22號今年4月22號的時候運輸安會來備詢的時候提到說這個5月底的話終結事故的調查報告會出爐那現在已經6月我想了解一下說為什麼沒看到這個最終調查報告因為這涉及到說臺中市政府提到如果\n議員會報告沒有出來之前：他的行政處分或相關調查：這個結果他沒有辦法去處理他還是要依據我們議員會的這個結果他才能去後續的責任歸屬去釐清甚至賠償等等的所以我想問說連沒什麼用的監察院都在4月提出了終結事故調查報告那我想專業的這個議員會什麼時候才會有報告出爐\n我們最晚最晚6月底一定會出來因為委員會已經加開一次了那現在是在等這個被調查單位的陳述意見來那我們6月14日如果確定他們陳述意見是是可以被接納或是委員會裡面同意的話我們6月底以前一定會發布被調查單位的陳述意見是台中市政府嗎很多單位還有誰\n還有捷運局．還有．還有四人羽球公司等等都有很多單位所以他們是6月什麼時候會把這個陳蘇伊健送進我們議員會6月14號以前就會陳蘇伊健會進來這是最後的因為委員會已經開過兩次最後一次會做最後的一個6月14號送進議員會那什麼時候會有這個修正報告最後的結論出來\n因為我想我還是要跟主委報告因為這份這個議員會的調查報告會影響到後續的不管是行政處分也好後續的賠償也好所以我們才會覺得說已經過了一年很多人都忘記了但是因為其實這個我想不管是家屬也好還是市政府台中內部也好其實這個問題一直延續到現在還沒有辦法有一個明確答案所以大家比較急啊所以我想知道6月底前確定會有嗎\n一定會有好主委謝謝謝謝主委接下來一樣討論到這個邊坡管理的問題我想一樣在同樣在交通委員會因為今年我想地震多這個下雨也多所以說是今年的這種邊坡事故特別多我想今年5月16的時候交通委員會我們才召開針對公路系統道路跟橋樑安全改善辦理情形的專題報告那當初市長也有在場還是請市長一起來好了\n我想這個5月16才開完這所謂的針對邊坡的改善作為那不到一個月又再次發生了基隆山崩的意外那我們希望說這個到底全台灣的C級邊坡的狀況當初有要求要去盤點那預計7月也就是一個月後要來公佈那現在6月就發生這個事情所以想了解一下到底現在交通部盤點的狀況如何\n那牌理的過程裡面有沒有包含了包含這一次這個基隆這個事件的這個這個邊坡我想那個事件發生以後部長對外說明就是要在一個月內要把做西級的邊坡總體檢那至於說公路總局的部分他在這個邊坡的這個體檢裡面也一定會包含這樣的一個邊坡而且他會依照這次邊坡的特性局長在這個檢這個報\n書面報告裡頭已經有說過了他會依照地調所的相關的一個徒資再去套疊相關的公路局的相關的邊坡來加強這樣的邊坡的一個體檢市長那像這一次基隆的這個這個邊坡有在你們的目前的範圍裡面嗎在我們的西齊邊坡裡面是有在裡面嗎是所以本來就知道他可能會有潛在的風險\n他是屬於我們列管的邊坡啦是列管的邊坡這個列管邊坡裡面還有一個問題就是我們高中的地球科學就知道了因為我這個高中那時候有這個921的問題啊所以林肯大峻是因為發生在順向坡那到底像全台灣這種順向坡逆向坡公路旁邊的順向坡你們有沒有做一次的完整的盤點\n我想跟委員報告一下在這個應該是國三走三的時候當時就是全面的就順向坡做一個總提携而且也做了相關的因應的一個處理如果要加裝地貓地貓檢測等等的這個在不管是公路也好或高速公路上甚至包含台鐵高鐵大概對於順向坡都有做一些處理\n那這一次這個比較特別的是他一些逆向協調的一個走勢所以這部分我們會在這一次裡頭也會納為這個就是總體檢的一個對象好 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