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00:02:13,131\n不過我們看到的就是在IMD的排名的部分我們有一些擔心的地方包括說雖然我們的這個永續貿易指數總排名是第10名可是呢在於經濟社會還有環境面的部分在一共70個指標裡面有關於環境項目我們排的是第27名\n\n7\n00:02:16,073 --> 00:02:37,250\n當然部長是新任的,其實歷任的部長也都非常非常的用心在改善相關的這些指標或者是整體的環境。那部長依照您對於這個IMD在最後面的相關的競爭力的部分,您有沒有信心明年可以更好?\n\n8\n00:02:38,472 --> 00:02:56,897\n關於這個其實有很多的國際組織都會排名那我也曾經是國際的組織的排名的審查委員過那當然這個我比較相信這個IMD的確他的水準是很高的那我們現在的資料來看的話因為他拿的是比較舊的那我們當時也沒有相關英文的資料所以我們現在\n\n9\n00:02:57,957 --> 00:03:14,023\n把英文畫之後讓他們可以直接每年都會抓到我們資料之後我們在今年的排名應該會往前提升所以請委員放心但是我們還有很多要努力的地方啦包含我們的碳的人均的排碳量等等齁這個我們要努力啦\n\n10\n00:03:14,583 --> 00:03:39,086\n是,因為下一章告訴我們說表現相對不是那麼滿意的部分包括像森林砍伐當然不是全部都是環境部的問題而是相關於整個國內如何能夠提升環境保護的部分包括森林砍伐也希望能夠有更精進另外就是環境貿易標準、碳、再生能源等等\n\n11\n00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:54,662\n那剛剛提到比較期待的就是針對協助中小企業升級轉型的部分其中有關的就是淨零轉型的努力不知道部長目前有沒有瞭解哪一些的企業\n\n12\n00:03:55,963 --> 00:04:15,152\n做的事相對是比較好可以當作我們點上目標準的企業不管是在智慧轉型競能轉型還有他們帶動的這個經濟模式的部分可不可以有相關的企業可以讓我們國內其他企業可以作為標竿學習的這些案件可以讓我們了解\n\n13\n00:04:15,792 --> 00:04:36,539\n報告委員其實臺灣的科技業因為它的貿易對外所以臺灣的科技業在減碳的或是永續的各種指標都做得非常的好那我知道我們經濟部也有這種以大帶小的整個供應鏈在做所以他們正在補充還是我們請我們署長來跟委員說明一下我舉一個例子就是最近那個\n\n14\n00:04:37,859 --> 00:04:57,776\n對喔,我們有集合國內電子五哥跟他們一起合作總共有差不多有200多家的供應鏈一起跟他們合作那這樣就是以大大小會垂直下來那以後對我們國際在探足機是有相當大的幫助那這樣以大大小它的成效才會大所以目前我們正在推展這一部分的一個計畫\n\n15\n00:04:58,997 --> 00:05:18,585\n是謝謝因為我這次同時也去參訪了世界貿易組織他是我們台灣唯一參加的一個算是國際型的組織他們也很期待把這些概念帶進來以後可以去國際貿易組織去做相關的一些表達讓我們去引領如果未來針對於這種\n\n16\n00:05:20,646 --> 00:05:21,326\n臺灣是蘋果很重要的供應鏈所以他們很積極\n\n17\n00:05:48,880 --> 00:06:05,432\n所以我們的確是希望能夠公司協力跟國外一起來合作來把這個指數可以提高好謝謝謝謝這一部分的這個回應那再過來剛剛很多委員也有提到醫療廢棄物的處理的部分希望不會迴復循環的永續\n\n18\n00:06:07,172 --> 00:06:22,457\n其實我們也了解如果環境部要推動零廢棄的話即使醫療機構它產出的廢棄物相較於其他的製造業跟電力供應業相對是比較低只佔了不到1%\n\n19\n00:06:23,817 --> 00:06:53,424\n可是我們看到比較擔心的就是醫療廢棄物的再利用率相對是偏低的我們下一張發生片可以看到的就是其他的這個總事業或者是經濟部的事業的這些再利用率即使是一般的事業廢棄物的再利用率都可以高到八九十個percent可是很可惜的就是衛福部的目的事業即使是一般事業廢棄物也只不到十個percent\n\n20\n00:06:54,564 --> 00:07:04,828\n剛剛部長也有說會跟邱部長共同來討論如何能夠有效的提升這方面的債利用率其實在5月的時候也針對這個問題請教了前任的薛部長\n\n21\n00:07:08,809 --> 00:07:32,065\n那薛部長也有回應說會持續的與衛福部合作來研議相關的這個工具那也很希望部長你能夠持續的關注這個問題希望能夠近期就有機會把相關這個研議的成果可以讓我們來了解也可以持續的來注意這個未來的這個可以改善的地方\n\n22\n00:07:33,285 --> 00:07:49,991\n因為醫療注重的是安全跟廢棄物的回收概念不一樣所以這個部分我們要突破我會跟衛福部討論至少是一般的廢棄物不是說有關生物醫療廢棄物這兩個部分還是要有效的分開\n\n23\n00:07:55,473 --> 00:08:19,902\n再過來非常謝謝部長一開始就提出一個大家很有感的這個燕地減量推動臺灣新文化運動有關於這個對於這個燕地部分造成的這個影響那您提出的這個有六大策略21加N的措施這個N加得非常好\n\n24\n00:08:20,982 --> 00:08:46,588\n請教部長這個恩會包括哪一些的可能有感的內容因為我們昨天有大概有包括了北一女的同學還有兩位都是年輕的朋友來那我是希望不要我們政府來定啦民間比我們政府有創意啦開放增建啦那個恩就是開放民眾來參與好的創意我們就來好的話可以實行的話我們就來用那個恩的意思就是無限大\n\n25\n00:08:47,028 --> 00:09:12,544\n我要從民間來啦不要政府定啦我們政府定的例如說我們取締大家一定很不高興啊我們政府想辦法如何取締大概這個效果也很有限但是我們如果從這個民間的創意來改變這個文化這個會更快啦是想見這個彭部長的數學一定非常好可以把N用到這樣的地方來那請問一下未來我們在多短的時間裡面就有可能看到N的成果\n\n26\n00:09:13,891 --> 00:09:37,342\n我們預計是11月才會決選出來我最近近期應該會到各個縣市找委員或是縣市所長一起來撿菸蒂所以這件事情我們一定會先來做因為各位都是知名人士然後來倡議這個會很有感因為我們現在全台灣的煙灰缸就是在水溝所以我們要趕快改變一下這個習慣\n\n27\n00:09:38,322 --> 00:09:39,003\n希望行動的時候也讓我知道一下\n\n28\n00:09:56,284 --> 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有請彭部長\n14445\t41578\t王委員好部長好很高興今天又能夠在這個地方跟您切磋一些有關於環保的事情這次我很高興有機會去參加世界衛生會相關的會議擔任世導團的一部分其他的包括江副院長一起去日內瓦做世導\n42678\t64553\t其實也得到蠻多的啟發所以想要再利用這個機會詢問一下部長相關的一些想法或者是未來我們可以努力的方向那這次其實很高興有機會同時去參加或者去洛杉磯管理學院參訪了有關相關國家競爭力的年度報告\n65573\t83810\t的一些得到的資訊他們預計在6月18號就要公布今年年度的報告的成果那我們也很高興在2023年IMD的世界競爭力全球是第6名當然我們很期待他今年會有更好的成績出來\n84831\t107597\t在這個很高興大家共同努力得到這樣的成果的同時其實拜總統在今年的5月20日的就職演說裡面也提到有關於我們必須要發展創新驅動的經濟模式透過數位轉型以及淨零轉型的雙軸力量來協助中小企業升級轉型\n108877\t133131\t不過我們看到的就是在IMD的排名的部分我們有一些擔心的地方包括說雖然我們的這個永續貿易指數總排名是第10名可是呢在於經濟社會還有環境面的部分在一共70個指標裡面有關於環境項目我們排的是第27名\n136073\t157250\t當然部長是新任的,其實歷任的部長也都非常非常的用心在改善相關的這些指標或者是整體的環境。那部長依照您對於這個IMD在最後面的相關的競爭力的部分,您有沒有信心明年可以更好?\n158472\t176897\t關於這個其實有很多的國際組織都會排名那我也曾經是國際的組織的排名的審查委員過那當然這個我比較相信這個IMD的確他的水準是很高的那我們現在的資料來看的話因為他拿的是比較舊的那我們當時也沒有相關英文的資料所以我們現在\n177957\t194023\t把英文畫之後讓他們可以直接每年都會抓到我們資料之後我們在今年的排名應該會往前提升所以請委員放心但是我們還有很多要努力的地方啦包含我們的碳的人均的排碳量等等齁這個我們要努力啦\n194583\t219086\t是,因為下一章告訴我們說表現相對不是那麼滿意的部分包括像森林砍伐當然不是全部都是環境部的問題而是相關於整個國內如何能夠提升環境保護的部分包括森林砍伐也希望能夠有更精進另外就是環境貿易標準、碳、再生能源等等\n219787\t234662\t那剛剛提到比較期待的就是針對協助中小企業升級轉型的部分其中有關的就是淨零轉型的努力不知道部長目前有沒有瞭解哪一些的企業\n235963\t255152\t做的事相對是比較好可以當作我們點上目標準的企業不管是在智慧轉型競能轉型還有他們帶動的這個經濟模式的部分可不可以有相關的企業可以讓我們國內其他企業可以作為標竿學習的這些案件可以讓我們了解\n255792\t276539\t報告委員其實臺灣的科技業因為它的貿易對外所以臺灣的科技業在減碳的或是永續的各種指標都做得非常的好那我知道我們經濟部也有這種以大帶小的整個供應鏈在做所以他們正在補充還是我們請我們署長來跟委員說明一下我舉一個例子就是最近那個\n277859\t297776\t對喔,我們有集合國內電子五哥跟他們一起合作總共有差不多有200多家的供應鏈一起跟他們合作那這樣就是以大大小會垂直下來那以後對我們國際在探足機是有相當大的幫助那這樣以大大小它的成效才會大所以目前我們正在推展這一部分的一個計畫\n298997\t318585\t是 謝謝因為我這次同時也去參訪了世界貿易組織他是我們台灣唯一參加的一個算是國際型的組織他們也很期待把這些概念帶進來以後可以去國際貿易組織去做相關的一些表達讓我們去引領如果未來針對於這種\n320646\t321326\t臺灣是蘋果很重要的供應鏈所以他們很積極\n348880\t365432\t所以我們的確是希望能夠公司協力跟國外一起來合作來把這個指數可以提高好謝謝謝謝這一部分的這個回應那再過來剛剛很多委員也有提到醫療廢棄物的處理的部分希望不會迴復循環的永續\n367172\t382457\t其實我們也了解如果環境部要推動零廢棄的話即使醫療機構它產出的廢棄物相較於其他的製造業跟電力供應業相對是比較低只佔了不到1%\n383817\t413424\t可是我們看到比較擔心的就是醫療廢棄物的再利用率相對是偏低的我們下一張發生片可以看到的就是其他的這個總事業或者是經濟部的事業的這些再利用率即使是一般的事業廢棄物的再利用率都可以高到八九十個percent可是很可惜的就是衛福部的目的事業即使是一般事業廢棄物也只不到十個percent\n414564\t424828\t剛剛部長也有說會跟邱部長共同來討論如何能夠有效的提升這方面的債利用率其實在5月的時候也針對這個問題請教了前任的薛部長\n428809\t452065\t那薛部長也有回應說會持續的與衛福部合作來研議相關的這個工具那也很希望部長你能夠持續的關注這個問題希望能夠近期就有機會把相關這個研議的成果可以讓我們來了解也可以持續的來注意這個未來的這個可以改善的地方\n453285\t469991\t因為醫療注重的是安全跟廢棄物的回收概念不一樣所以這個部分我們要突破我會跟衛福部討論至少是一般的廢棄物不是說有關生物醫療廢棄物這兩個部分還是要有效的分開\n475473\t499902\t再過來非常謝謝部長一開始就提出一個大家很有感的這個燕地減量推動臺灣新文化運動有關於這個對於這個燕地部分造成的這個影響那您提出的這個有六大策略21加N的措施這個N加得非常好\n500982\t526588\t請教部長這個恩會包括哪一些的可能有感的內容因為我們昨天有大概有包括了北一女的同學還有兩位都是年輕的朋友來那我是希望不要我們政府來定啦民間比我們政府有創意啦開放增建啦那個恩就是開放民眾來參與好的創意我們就來好的話可以實行的話我們就來用那個恩的意思就是無限大\n527028\t552544\t我要從民間來啦不要政府定啦我們政府定的例如說我們取締大家一定很不高興啊我們政府想辦法如何取締大概這個效果也很有限但是我們如果從這個民間的創意來改變這個文化這個會更快啦是想見這個彭部長的數學一定非常好可以把N用到這樣的地方來那請問一下未來我們在多短的時間裡面就有可能看到N的成果\n553891\t577342\t我們預計是11月才會決選出來我最近近期應該會到各個縣市找委員或是縣市所長一起來撿菸蒂所以這件事情我們一定會先來做因為各位都是知名人士然後來倡議這個會很有感因為我們現在全台灣的煙灰缸就是在水溝所以我們要趕快改變一下這個習慣\n578322\t579003\t希望行動的時候也讓我知道一下\n596284\t618914\t最後再提醒有關於登革熱房子的環境的清理的部分我們知道上一次我請教薛部長的時候向經費的使用預算也已經到了一個步我們希望如果說需要透過滾動式的管理的話可以讓經費的部分再適度的去幫助地方\n619454\t619935\t謝謝王正旭委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席 有請彭部長\n王委員好部長好很高興今天又能夠在這個地方跟您切磋一些有關於環保的事情這次我很高興有機會去參加世界衛生會相關的會議擔任世導團的一部分其他的包括江副院長一起去日內瓦做世導\n其實也得到蠻多的啟發所以想要再利用這個機會詢問一下部長相關的一些想法或者是未來我們可以努力的方向那這次其實很高興有機會同時去參加或者去洛杉磯管理學院參訪了有關相關國家競爭力的年度報告\n的一些得到的資訊他們預計在6月18號就要公布今年年度的報告的成果那我們也很高興在2023年IMD的世界競爭力全球是第6名當然我們很期待他今年會有更好的成績出來\n在這個很高興大家共同努力得到這樣的成果的同時其實拜總統在今年的5月20日的就職演說裡面也提到有關於我們必須要發展創新驅動的經濟模式透過數位轉型以及淨零轉型的雙軸力量來協助中小企業升級轉型\n不過我們看到的就是在IMD的排名的部分我們有一些擔心的地方包括說雖然我們的這個永續貿易指數總排名是第10名可是呢在於經濟社會還有環境面的部分在一共70個指標裡面有關於環境項目我們排的是第27名\n當然部長是新任的,其實歷任的部長也都非常非常的用心在改善相關的這些指標或者是整體的環境。那部長依照您對於這個IMD在最後面的相關的競爭力的部分,您有沒有信心明年可以更好?\n關於這個其實有很多的國際組織都會排名那我也曾經是國際的組織的排名的審查委員過那當然這個我比較相信這個IMD的確他的水準是很高的那我們現在的資料來看的話因為他拿的是比較舊的那我們當時也沒有相關英文的資料所以我們現在\n把英文畫之後讓他們可以直接每年都會抓到我們資料之後我們在今年的排名應該會往前提升所以請委員放心但是我們還有很多要努力的地方啦包含我們的碳的人均的排碳量等等齁這個我們要努力啦\n是,因為下一章告訴我們說表現相對不是那麼滿意的部分包括像森林砍伐當然不是全部都是環境部的問題而是相關於整個國內如何能夠提升環境保護的部分包括森林砍伐也希望能夠有更精進另外就是環境貿易標準、碳、再生能源等等\n那剛剛提到比較期待的就是針對協助中小企業升級轉型的部分其中有關的就是淨零轉型的努力不知道部長目前有沒有瞭解哪一些的企業\n做的事相對是比較好可以當作我們點上目標準的企業不管是在智慧轉型競能轉型還有他們帶動的這個經濟模式的部分可不可以有相關的企業可以讓我們國內其他企業可以作為標竿學習的這些案件可以讓我們了解\n報告委員其實臺灣的科技業因為它的貿易對外所以臺灣的科技業在減碳的或是永續的各種指標都做得非常的好那我知道我們經濟部也有這種以大帶小的整個供應鏈在做所以他們正在補充還是我們請我們署長來跟委員說明一下我舉一個例子就是最近那個\n對喔,我們有集合國內電子五哥跟他們一起合作總共有差不多有200多家的供應鏈一起跟他們合作那這樣就是以大大小會垂直下來那以後對我們國際在探足機是有相當大的幫助那這樣以大大小它的成效才會大所以目前我們正在推展這一部分的一個計畫\n是 謝謝因為我這次同時也去參訪了世界貿易組織他是我們台灣唯一參加的一個算是國際型的組織他們也很期待把這些概念帶進來以後可以去國際貿易組織去做相關的一些表達讓我們去引領如果未來針對於這種\n臺灣是蘋果很重要的供應鏈所以他們很積極\n所以我們的確是希望能夠公司協力跟國外一起來合作來把這個指數可以提高好謝謝謝謝這一部分的這個回應那再過來剛剛很多委員也有提到醫療廢棄物的處理的部分希望不會迴復循環的永續\n其實我們也了解如果環境部要推動零廢棄的話即使醫療機構它產出的廢棄物相較於其他的製造業跟電力供應業相對是比較低只佔了不到1%\n可是我們看到比較擔心的就是醫療廢棄物的再利用率相對是偏低的我們下一張發生片可以看到的就是其他的這個總事業或者是經濟部的事業的這些再利用率即使是一般的事業廢棄物的再利用率都可以高到八九十個percent可是很可惜的就是衛福部的目的事業即使是一般事業廢棄物也只不到十個percent\n剛剛部長也有說會跟邱部長共同來討論如何能夠有效的提升這方面的債利用率其實在5月的時候也針對這個問題請教了前任的薛部長\n那薛部長也有回應說會持續的與衛福部合作來研議相關的這個工具那也很希望部長你能夠持續的關注這個問題希望能夠近期就有機會把相關這個研議的成果可以讓我們來了解也可以持續的來注意這個未來的這個可以改善的地方\n因為醫療注重的是安全跟廢棄物的回收概念不一樣所以這個部分我們要突破我會跟衛福部討論至少是一般的廢棄物不是說有關生物醫療廢棄物這兩個部分還是要有效的分開\n再過來非常謝謝部長一開始就提出一個大家很有感的這個燕地減量推動臺灣新文化運動有關於這個對於這個燕地部分造成的這個影響那您提出的這個有六大策略21加N的措施這個N加得非常好\n請教部長這個恩會包括哪一些的可能有感的內容因為我們昨天有大概有包括了北一女的同學還有兩位都是年輕的朋友來那我是希望不要我們政府來定啦民間比我們政府有創意啦開放增建啦那個恩就是開放民眾來參與好的創意我們就來好的話可以實行的話我們就來用那個恩的意思就是無限大\n我要從民間來啦不要政府定啦我們政府定的例如說我們取締大家一定很不高興啊我們政府想辦法如何取締大概這個效果也很有限但是我們如果從這個民間的創意來改變這個文化這個會更快啦是想見這個彭部長的數學一定非常好可以把N用到這樣的地方來那請問一下未來我們在多短的時間裡面就有可能看到N的成果\n我們預計是11月才會決選出來我最近近期應該會到各個縣市找委員或是縣市所長一起來撿菸蒂所以這件事情我們一定會先來做因為各位都是知名人士然後來倡議這個會很有感因為我們現在全台灣的煙灰缸就是在水溝所以我們要趕快改變一下這個習慣\n希望行動的時候也讓我知道一下\n最後再提醒有關於登革熱房子的環境的清理的部分我們知道上一次我請教薛部長的時候向經費的使用預算也已經到了一個步我們希望如果說需要透過滾動式的管理的話可以讓經費的部分再適度的去幫助地方\n謝謝王正旭委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.363 --> 00:11.285\n謝謝主席有請彭部長\n\n00:14.445 --> 00:41.578\n王委員好部長好很高興今天又能夠在這個地方跟您切磋一些有關於環保的事情這次我很高興有機會去參加世界衛生會相關的會議擔任世導團的一部分其他的包括江副院長一起去日內瓦做世導\n\n00:42.678 --> 01:04.553\n其實也得到蠻多的啟發所以想要再利用這個機會詢問一下部長相關的一些想法或者是未來我們可以努力的方向那這次其實很高興有機會同時去參加或者去洛杉磯管理學院參訪了有關相關國家競爭力的年度報告\n\n01:05.573 --> 01:23.810\n的一些得到的資訊他們預計在6月18號就要公布今年年度的報告的成果那我們也很高興在2023年IMD的世界競爭力全球是第6名當然我們很期待他今年會有更好的成績出來\n\n01:24.831 --> 01:47.597\n在這個很高興大家共同努力得到這樣的成果的同時其實拜總統在今年的5月20日的就職演說裡面也提到有關於我們必須要發展創新驅動的經濟模式透過數位轉型以及淨零轉型的雙軸力量來協助中小企業升級轉型\n\n01:48.877 --> 02:13.131\n不過我們看到的就是在IMD的排名的部分我們有一些擔心的地方包括說雖然我們的這個永續貿易指數總排名是第10名可是呢在於經濟社會還有環境面的部分在一共70個指標裡面有關於環境項目我們排的是第27名\n\n02:16.073 --> 02:37.250\n當然部長是新任的,其實歷任的部長也都非常非常的用心在改善相關的這些指標或者是整體的環境。那部長依照您對於這個IMD在最後面的相關的競爭力的部分,您有沒有信心明年可以更好?\n\n02:38.472 --> 02:56.897\n關於這個其實有很多的國際組織都會排名那我也曾經是國際的組織的排名的審查委員過那當然這個我比較相信這個IMD的確他的水準是很高的那我們現在的資料來看的話因為他拿的是比較舊的那我們當時也沒有相關英文的資料所以我們現在\n\n02:57.957 --> 03:14.023\n把英文畫之後讓他們可以直接每年都會抓到我們資料之後我們在今年的排名應該會往前提升所以請委員放心但是我們還有很多要努力的地方啦包含我們的碳的人均的排碳量等等齁這個我們要努力啦\n\n03:14.583 --> 03:39.086\n是,因為下一章告訴我們說表現相對不是那麼滿意的部分包括像森林砍伐當然不是全部都是環境部的問題而是相關於整個國內如何能夠提升環境保護的部分包括森林砍伐也希望能夠有更精進另外就是環境貿易標準、碳、再生能源等等\n\n03:39.787 --> 03:54.662\n那剛剛提到比較期待的就是針對協助中小企業升級轉型的部分其中有關的就是淨零轉型的努力不知道部長目前有沒有瞭解哪一些的企業\n\n03:55.963 --> 04:15.152\n做的事相對是比較好可以當作我們點上目標準的企業不管是在智慧轉型競能轉型還有他們帶動的這個經濟模式的部分可不可以有相關的企業可以讓我們國內其他企業可以作為標竿學習的這些案件可以讓我們了解\n\n04:15.792 --> 04:36.539\n報告委員其實臺灣的科技業因為它的貿易對外所以臺灣的科技業在減碳的或是永續的各種指標都做得非常的好那我知道我們經濟部也有這種以大帶小的整個供應鏈在做所以他們正在補充還是我們請我們署長來跟委員說明一下我舉一個例子就是最近那個\n\n04:37.859 --> 04:57.776\n對喔,我們有集合國內電子五哥跟他們一起合作總共有差不多有200多家的供應鏈一起跟他們合作那這樣就是以大大小會垂直下來那以後對我們國際在探足機是有相當大的幫助那這樣以大大小它的成效才會大所以目前我們正在推展這一部分的一個計畫\n\n04:58.997 --> 05:18.585\n是謝謝因為我這次同時也去參訪了世界貿易組織他是我們台灣唯一參加的一個算是國際型的組織他們也很期待把這些概念帶進來以後可以去國際貿易組織去做相關的一些表達讓我們去引領如果未來針對於這種\n\n05:20.646 --> 05:21.326\n臺灣是蘋果很重要的供應鏈所以他們很積極\n\n05:48.880 --> 06:05.432\n所以我們的確是希望能夠公司協力跟國外一起來合作來把這個指數可以提高好謝謝謝謝這一部分的這個回應那再過來剛剛很多委員也有提到醫療廢棄物的處理的部分希望不會迴復循環的永續\n\n06:07.172 --> 06:22.457\n其實我們也了解如果環境部要推動零廢棄的話即使醫療機構它產出的廢棄物相較於其他的製造業跟電力供應業相對是比較低只佔了不到1%\n\n06:23.817 --> 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