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00:00:49,870\n主委好主委好那主委就簡單請教您就叫您在520就職大家整個部位上調整之前那時候曾經有跟您提到就是那時候有提到運管會的許多業務跟相關的研究報告的這個能力能力是不足\n\n3\n00:00:50,470 --> 00:01:09,062\n那時候在那個改組以前那時候有跟您建議就是說那其實你也知道許多的研究人員他們需要更多的一些不管是心思上面的一個加急或者是人力上面的需求才能夠加速目前國內所有有關於運安的報告的進度啊那你還記得這件事嗎?\n\n4\n00:01:11,954 --> 00:01:31,874\n人力的部分就剛剛前面林縣委所詢問的這個那你那時候有提到說會跟行政院來提報要增加人力需求那我想請教一下那現在那個都改組了有提報了嗎還沒有提報大家預計什麼時候要提報因為你的回答大家同仁在等\n\n5\n00:01:33,979 --> 00:02:02,303\n我們一個月之內來檢討看整個人力上怎麼來填補對啊那個最主要期待的是運輸安全調查委員會能夠實際上發揮功能像是國外許多運輸安全調查委員會他們我相信在許多的報告這個有時候不要等到兩年一年那能夠的話就是加速能夠讓社會大眾能夠清楚知道進度好不好那這個月一個月內看目前來講預計怎麼樣來爭取人力援俄的情況跟交通委員會大家來做個回覆好不好\n\n6\n00:02:02,523 --> 00:02:02,543\n陳事長\n\n7\n00:02:24,026 --> 00:02:47,757\n委員好市長好那也許剛才許多的委員都有在關心那當然我們知道這是天災啦那天災的話但是我們也期待的就是不管是公路局或者是包括整體交通部在這個許多的一個監測邊坡的部分大家都能夠發揮更強大的功能那其實記得2010年那時候也曾經一個山崩\n\n8\n00:02:48,517 --> 00:03:03,502\n還在隧道那邊還也奪走了四車五命的一個悲劇那我們再回頭來講這次看到這個也是無預警的一個坍方坍塌那想要直接就到次長就是您對於交通的業務是非常熟悉\n\n9\n00:03:04,102 --> 00:03:19,146\n那目前在這個定量分級的部分有分A、B、C、C加還有D級的部分總共列管的1700處那目前在今天這一次發生的這個我們前幾天發生這個邊坡基隆的這一件那有是在裡面的1700處之一嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:28,650\n有,有在我們1008處之內是列為C級的邊坡C級嗎?那C級的話那時候有辦法預警到會隨時有發生這種突發狀況嗎?C級的邊坡就是它是相對穩定的一個邊坡他是在順風坡嗎?順向坡嗎?\n\n11\n00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:54,638\n他在這個地方是一個逆向坡嗎?逆向坡嘛,逆向坡那當初的話有沒有相關的一些監測的這個部分不管是搖桿探測還是科技的巡檢在這個邊坡優先關注邊坡裡面?\n\n12\n00:03:56,559 --> 00:04:14,339\n他是屬於優先關注邊坡裡面的其中之一嗎?他不是。他不是在我們優先關注的邊坡裡面。因為他最主要他實批非常良好。所以在以往的巡檢裡頭大概看不到他有自宅的一個績效。\n\n13\n00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:22,771\n那在109年到112年省道改善計畫優先關注邊坡的科技巡檢執行經費1.7億元113年續編4千萬辦理檢測那強化這個46處移住經費20億那所以這46處也沒有涵蓋在這個邊坡\n\n14\n00:04:32,324 --> 00:04:59,018\n沒有那個是屬於我的瞭解應該是屬於優先關注的邊坡對那所以這個沒有在優先關注之列那本席要就教那像這樣子無預警發生的這種邊坡的這種山崩那怎麼樣能夠去強化那這個監測因為今天連您應該也提到這叫做植被都算是良好的邊坡但是也會發生這種無預警的那這樣子的話全台灣還有多少除包括在南投縣有沒有這種\n\n15\n00:04:59,778 --> 00:05:03,319\n為什麼會分ABCD等級就是其實他是想要降低所謂造勢的一個風險所以\n\n16\n00:05:16,244 --> 00:05:41,392\n才會有這樣的一個等級的話分那列在C等級裡頭但是相對於A、B來講是安全很多而且它經過一定程度的一個分析以後才會到C這個等級那至於說C等級裡頭還發生了這樣的一個自災的原因我在前面幾次的報告也都有特別提到我們是不是有其他的一些地質的因素裡頭沒考慮這個我們會來考慮\n\n17\n00:05:43,292 --> 00:06:01,025\n另外也有委員特別提到就是說監測的系統是不是應該來這裡看怎麼樣來布設這個我們也會在後續去做一些檢討因為時間有限就是說希望說在這個檢測的部分能夠看用更嚴謹的方式能夠讓大家能夠心安\n\n18\n00:06:02,006 --> 00:06:23,567\n因為這個部分如果說是C級他不是AB級那其實他相對大家應該感到安心的地方卻無意準的坍塌那所以我是認為本席是認為應該要通盤的來去做這個檢討因為今天發生在基隆我也怕我的選區南投有沒有這種風險那其他各縣市都有可能有這種風險那再來就是剛才有提到他的目前的看牌\n\n19\n00:06:24,888 --> 00:06:44,348\n現在檢測那個是什麼級的看牌是立在相關的一個就是道路的旁邊嘛那這個網路上面查不查得到哪一段是大概是多少的一個檢測的級別那我是建議就是這個回答就是一看到揮手就表示說是沒有在網路上面公佈啦\n\n20\n00:06:45,309 --> 00:07:12,209\n這個我們來研究把它做網路上的公開揭示公開揭露讓大家可以去上網查到家裡附近的或是上班途中經過的這個路段那是不是屬於什麼級別那大家其實我相信因為這次的事件大家很多人都非常的關心平常行進的路上是不是有這種風險那可以的話讓大家上網也查得到我在想說這樣子也可以有利於大家行車的時候實時注意\n\n21\n00:07:12,590 --> 00:07:14,403\n是是這個我們會來辦理是OK好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n21610\t26382\t謝謝謝謝會議主席那先請運安會主委林主委好林主委\n31837\t49870\t主委好 主委好 那主委就簡單請教您 就叫您在520就職大家整個部位上調整之前 那時候曾經有跟您提到 就是那時候有提到運管會的許多業務跟相關的研究報告的這個能力 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是 這個我們會來辦理是 OK 好 謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝謝謝會議主席那先請運安會主委林主委好林主委\n主委好 主委好 那主委就簡單請教您 就叫您在520就職大家整個部位上調整之前 那時候曾經有跟您提到 就是那時候有提到運管會的許多業務跟相關的研究報告的這個能力 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是 這個我們會來辦理是 OK 好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:21.610 --> 00:26.382\n謝謝謝謝會議主席那先請運安會主委林主委好林主委\n\n00:31.837 --> 00:49.870\n主委好主委好那主委就簡單請教您就叫您在520就職大家整個部位上調整之前那時候曾經有跟您提到就是那時候有提到運管會的許多業務跟相關的研究報告的這個能力能力是不足\n\n00:50.470 --> 01:09.062\n那時候在那個改組以前那時候有跟您建議就是說那其實你也知道許多的研究人員他們需要更多的一些不管是心思上面的一個加急或者是人力上面的需求才能夠加速目前國內所有有關於運安的報告的進度啊那你還記得這件事嗎?\n\n01:11.954 --> 01:31.874\n人力的部分就剛剛前面林縣委所詢問的這個那你那時候有提到說會跟行政院來提報要增加人力需求那我想請教一下那現在那個都改組了有提報了嗎還沒有提報大家預計什麼時候要提報因為你的回答大家同仁在等\n\n01:33.979 --> 02:02.303\n我們一個月之內來檢討看整個人力上怎麼來填補對啊那個最主要期待的是運輸安全調查委員會能夠實際上發揮功能像是國外許多運輸安全調查委員會他們我相信在許多的報告這個有時候不要等到兩年一年那能夠的話就是加速能夠讓社會大眾能夠清楚知道進度好不好那這個月一個月內看目前來講預計怎麼樣來爭取人力援俄的情況跟交通委員會大家來做個回覆好不好\n\n02:02.523 --> 02:02.543\n陳事長\n\n02:24.026 --> 02:47.757\n委員好市長好那也許剛才許多的委員都有在關心那當然我們知道這是天災啦那天災的話但是我們也期待的就是不管是公路局或者是包括整體交通部在這個許多的一個監測邊坡的部分大家都能夠發揮更強大的功能那其實記得2010年那時候也曾經一個山崩\n\n02:48.517 --> 03:03.502\n還在隧道那邊還也奪走了四車五命的一個悲劇那我們再回頭來講這次看到這個也是無預警的一個坍方坍塌那想要直接就到次長就是您對於交通的業務是非常熟悉\n\n03:04.102 --> 03:19.146\n那目前在這個定量分級的部分有分A、B、C、C加還有D級的部分總共列管的1700處那目前在今天這一次發生的這個我們前幾天發生這個邊坡基隆的這一件那有是在裡面的1700處之一嗎?\n\n03:21.467 --> 03:28.650\n有,有在我們1008處之內是列為C級的邊坡C級嗎?那C級的話那時候有辦法預警到會隨時有發生這種突發狀況嗎?C級的邊坡就是它是相對穩定的一個邊坡他是在順風坡嗎?順向坡嗎?\n\n03:41.354 --> 03:54.638\n他在這個地方是一個逆向坡嗎?逆向坡嘛,逆向坡那當初的話有沒有相關的一些監測的這個部分不管是搖桿探測還是科技的巡檢在這個邊坡優先關注邊坡裡面?\n\n03:56.559 --> 04:14.339\n他是屬於優先關注邊坡裡面的其中之一嗎?他不是。他不是在我們優先關注的邊坡裡面。因為他最主要他實批非常良好。所以在以往的巡檢裡頭大概看不到他有自宅的一個績效。\n\n04:15.000 --> 04:22.771\n那在109年到112年省道改善計畫優先關注邊坡的科技巡檢執行經費1.7億元113年續編4千萬辦理檢測那強化這個46處移住經費20億那所以這46處也沒有涵蓋在這個邊坡\n\n04:32.324 --> 04:59.018\n沒有那個是屬於我的瞭解應該是屬於優先關注的邊坡對那所以這個沒有在優先關注之列那本席要就教那像這樣子無預警發生的這種邊坡的這種山崩那怎麼樣能夠去強化那這個監測因為今天連您應該也提到這叫做植被都算是良好的邊坡但是也會發生這種無預警的那這樣子的話全台灣還有多少除包括在南投縣有沒有這種\n\n04:59.778 --> 05:03.319\n為什麼會分ABCD等級就是其實他是想要降低所謂造勢的一個風險所以\n\n05:16.244 --> 05:41.392\n才會有這樣的一個等級的話分那列在C等級裡頭但是相對於A、B來講是安全很多而且它經過一定程度的一個分析以後才會到C這個等級那至於說C等級裡頭還發生了這樣的一個自災的原因我在前面幾次的報告也都有特別提到我們是不是有其他的一些地質的因素裡頭沒考慮這個我們會來考慮\n\n05:43.292 --> 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