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00:02:51,331\n我簡單說明一下再請那個說明原則上剛才特別提到如果在我們的邊坡的防治的範圍裡面以前都是希望上下邊坡而且邊坡能夠到坡頂去看一下看有沒有相關的一個人為的開發的行為來影響這個邊坡的安全這個在國道走山國山走山以後在我們公路法裡頭大概有修改相關的一個規定要求這個當事人\n\n9\n00:02:53,092 --> 00:02:54,013\n對,他是義務人。對,但是原則上他不會啦。\n\n10\n00:03:23,394 --> 00:03:36,662\n一般就是說上邊坡的部分的話確實有些會涉及到其他政府部門的還會跨到就是說可能水保署或是林務署那有一些是私人的部分的話如果說有必要做立期的一些\n\n11\n00:03:37,262 --> 00:03:37,422\n稍後的報告\n\n12\n00:03:57,142 --> 00:04:23,670\n那立即的時候我們有去處理的一個權利但是比如說像現在這個台二線70K它是一個突然因為它是一個可能原本還是可能直批還是還蠻正常的一個我們原則上不認為它會坍塌的一個地方但是它就是坍塌了那對於這樣子的東西照目前的法令假設它是私人土地的情況下我們現況好像是沒有辦法針對它去做一些邊坡防護的工程嘛是不是\n\n13\n00:04:25,724 --> 00:04:48,629\n目前這塊是那個海科館的這個路權的一個對這個個案是海科款我知道所以我說這個個案相對單純但是我們全台我其實我不只要針對我們公路局啦而是針對所有鐵路高速公路公路甚至是我們地方政府的一些山路其實大家都會遇到這個問題邊坡公家單位的好獎那如果是私人的\n\n14\n00:04:49,389 --> 00:05:08,432\n那我要去怎麼去做防護我們可以依照我們的程序把它納進我們交通用地或者是道路用地的範圍內去把它做一個取得或是補償或是說怎樣的方式因為以後這樣的現象一定會持續的發生嘛私人土地的部分\n\n15\n00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:32,892\n我想這一部分就請公務總局去研議一下剛才有講到那個水保義務人他其實本身他就有他的義務了這個不是對他有義務但是他不會去因為當他其實說真的發生事件的時候發生事件沒有做相關的水水都保持置身這個相關的一個危害我想這個在水保法有\n\n16\n00:05:33,553 --> 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