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00:00:35,839\n主席、國務委員、請次長。好,陳次長。委員好。好,次長好。辛苦了。是。這個0403大地震之後,一震非常非常的多了。\n\n2\n00:00:37,692 --> 00:00:57,009\n這一直到前幾天都還有遺症所以很特殊的一個地震所以蘇花公路一再的攤房在5月10日當然我們之前也有攤房過5月10日攤房然後這個在6月的時候又攤房所以這個部分6月1日也攤房\n\n3\n00:01:03,172 --> 00:01:30,980\n另外就是在6月3日台九縣蘇拉公路162.9K從德隧道北端右攤方所以這個部分還好都沒有造成砸到這個車輛這個是很幸運的一個地方所以這個部分交通部公路總局到底有什麼樣因應的做法\n\n4\n00:01:32,971 --> 00:01:47,016\n是跟我們報告目前因為確實就是10月3日地震之後的話這個余震這個尤其在花蓮市非常多那就是說這個受災比較嚴重的台九的蘇花跟台八的中橫那\n\n5\n00:01:48,737 --> 00:02:03,236\n目前大概就是說落實的部分我們第一個就是這個極貪極輕那像6月3號這個崇德段的這個崩塌的話到隔天的早上其實6點我們就這個清完就開放通行了\n\n6\n00:02:03,857 --> 00:02:28,641\n那就是其他的像呃臺九蘇花公路沿線有一些邊坡的話呃當然就是說我們開放通行的話第一第一階段就是他的上邊坡的這個浮石的部分我們一定是先把他刷下來哦那就是說通行安全上沒有問題那另外就是說因為邊坡還是要做整體的一個這個防治哦那所以臺九線的蘇花沿線的這個邊坡受損的部分我們要做到年底\n\n7\n00:02:29,241 --> 00:02:56,822\n要做到年底的話就是說能夠就是說有一些邊坡的整治會有告一個段落那目前蘇花公路其實只剩下就是說下新水橋這邊大概就是他有一個就是說這一個原來的橋樑要做復建所以大型車輛這個5月30號也通車了那目前只有在這個日間這個早上8點到下午的5點在做施工的時候會有做時段性的管制那夜間的時候沒有管制那基本上就是\n\n8\n00:02:57,542 --> 00:03:09,909\n民眾的通行沒有問題當然就是有時候因為地震或者是降雨比較多他會有零星的落石那那個部分我們如果掌握的話都會及時的這個封路不要讓民眾就是說因為這個會有落石還要開進這個區域\n\n9\n00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:29,011\n就是大清水那邊在5月31號已經通了大車了通了大車這個通大車之前我也去了通了大車那這段時間有沒有探訪過\n\n10\n00:03:32,015 --> 00:03:42,760\n就是只有目前就都在那個大清水那邊沒有因為那個上面很大石頭在那邊還留在那邊嘛然後你們那個新的那個要\n\n11\n00:03:44,508 --> 00:04:11,946\n防護的那個什麼時候會完成那個大概就是說都是在年底前基本上的防護措施對年底前大概邊坡的防護包括這個防落石網還有一些邊坡的整治都會做相關的處理所以這個部分是一個需要積極的來去處理的部分當然工程還是有它的一個極限所以我們\n\n12\n00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:29,058\n要最安全的就是要趕快把舒華安能夠開始施工而現在就是因為環評出省二月二十號的時候還要補正然後\n\n13\n00:04:30,257 --> 00:04:55,503\n5月14日第二次的專案小組出省會議建議通過而已還要再修正你們送修了沒有對就是5月14日就是這個環評專案小組已經出省建議通過那這個會議的結論是說7月底以前就是要把補充的資料送進去那公路局這邊會加速那大概7月15號我們7月15號會送\n\n14\n00:04:58,544 --> 00:05:21,795\n會會會阿因為他有一些要補充補充的一些調查或是有一些說明資料我們原則上一定會盡快這個因為齁這個最重要的是除了要你們要趕快送趕快送這個從5月14號到現在也也蠻蠻蠻蠻久了所以第一個要趕快送5月20號在這邊的時候也有質詢次長說趕快送\n\n15\n00:05:24,196 --> 00:05:46,173\n說我之後要告訴我我來去協調環境部我也質詢過環境部我在5月22號我也質詢了環境部收到說要提早開提早開這個環評大會因為這個是真的是拖太久了因為這剛才講的那些落實那些包括攤房的那個部分都是在\n\n16\n00:05:47,274 --> 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