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\"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:29,616\n麻煩我們交通部次長跟我們的運安會的主委。好,來陳次長、林主委。委員好。好,次長好和主委好。下一頁。這個事實上是在2022年的時候當時的賴副總統出席運安會研討會三週年的研討會的時候。\n\n2\n00:00:30,918 --> 00:00:48,193\n對運安的一個期許強調未來運安會應該能夠在專業調查跟資訊公佈以外能夠進一步的話被動為主動並接軌國際化確保台灣的運輸安全主委你對這兩項期許你是否有把握做到\n\n3\n00:00:50,873 --> 00:01:10,381\n沒有錯,當時的副總統,他當時確實有這樣提,他的意思是說各主管機關都要有一個評鑑機制,確實是沒有錯。據我們所了解目前國內機關的評鑑機制是有的,譬如說衛福部他有對醫療機構有評鑑。\n\n4\n00:01:13,402 --> 00:01:31,781\n那民航局對航空公司的安全服務也有一些評鑑公路局也對遊覽車客運公司他有一些服務評鑑等等那相關機關譬如說空勤總隊的評鑑作為未來如果有需要因為他是屬於內政部那我們會協助他來辦因為他有主管機關下一頁\n\n5\n00:01:34,504 --> 00:01:57,684\n這個過去我在民間在競選基金會服務的時候就一直不斷地強調國內的幼童專用車的安全上是有疑慮的也希望能夠持續有作為那目前上提供的一些相關的服務車輛都非常不安全我始終在跟我們的交通部一直在溝通這件事情可是似乎目前事實上是沒有\n\n6\n00:01:58,024 --> 00:02:25,929\n比較更積極的作為下一頁那的確等到2023年年底的時候章化又再度的發生幼童專用車事件那這次沒有翻覆可是直接撞進農田造成15人受傷這一次事故當中運安會終於看到幼童專用車的問題願意針對這次的案件來做調查我也予以高度的肯定下一頁那我想問主委的是這個案子目前的調查進度\n\n7\n00:02:27,009 --> 00:02:53,654\n好,到哪裡了?方向是什麼?他調查項目是什麼?目前,雖然這個右頭專車不是屬於汽車運輸業啦那特殊人員死傷的這個限制沒有但是我們有主動來立案調查我們有成立的三個分組車輛分組、操作分組、生還因素的分組那麼對整個車輛安全、駕駛行為、乘客的安全有計程調查這個案子\n\n8\n00:02:54,814 --> 00:03:08,961\n預定是這個月的6月要就是這個月你會發佈他的會發佈嗎因為我現在發佈事實資料報告那明年的5月會完成最終的報告好預定是這樣子是什麼時候明年的5月完成最終報告好\n\n9\n00:03:11,450 --> 00:03:27,839\n委員會當中的確提到這個預計明年的5月可是我要在這邊提醒的是剛剛問的主委說我也提醒要化主動化被動為主動所以也希望你們化被動可不可以調查的方向跟項目\n\n10\n00:03:49,498 --> 00:04:12,754\n當初在20192019年後改款他大肆的做文章說他到底有多安全可是目前我們幼童專用車都是用中華德力卡那他改裝前沒有安全氣囊沒有任何主動主被動的安全系統動態問題現在目前還有2000多輛的車在幼兒園使用當中下一頁\n\n11\n00:04:13,875 --> 00:04:27,848\n所以沒得選欸因為99.9%都是德利卡車型所以家長沒得選事實上幼兒園也沒得挑沒辦法就是只能用這個因為整體現在能夠提供的就只有這輛車下一頁\n\n12\n00:04:29,895 --> 00:04:44,645\n那可是在所謂的策略在上市之前都需要經過測試跟審驗的程序我們目前國家事實上是有所謂的強制跟非強制的這樣的一個\n\n13\n00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:46,593\n下一頁\n\n14\n00:05:12,421 --> 00:05:38,120\n所以交通部就表示為什麼不做碰撞試驗因為座椅的高度如果要回答這樣子的話那就來問是說那就把要求教育部是不是把幼童車廂車全部都改裝為所謂的大顆車的狀態而不是用這小型箱型車的時候又沒有辦法做安全碰撞試驗然後我們現在就又剩只剩下一款車可是每一天在用著幼兒的時候我們相信家長一定是提心吊膽的\n\n15\n00:05:38,920 --> 00:06:03,436\n所以我也不太接受交通部的這樣的答覆了下一頁所以希望德力卡的這個車款能不能符合平等試用範圍也是市場這個趨勢的車型的時候可是沒有接受ACP的平等試驗也就是我剛剛講非強制性的來下一頁這個就是交通主管機關不敢面對的這是我們取得國外這是中華德力卡的那個車型\n\n16\n00:06:22,476 --> 00:06:42,845\n下一頁最後我期待是不是想問的是次長跟主委我現在提出來的這三點也就是重新檢討我們的車輛審驗的安全規範導入國際認可的碰撞試驗還有呢第二個是是不是有具體的獎勵方案來鼓勵車廠能夠可不可以有更多的車種轉為跟\n\n17\n00:06:45,026 --> 00:06:58,698\n告做幼童專用車來導入更安全的車型那第三個是不是我們的交通主管機關更應該盡速的修法參加國外的做法讓賦予我們的幼童專用車的絕對入權我不知道次長這邊是不是還有主委這邊可不針對這個能夠做承諾\n\n18\n00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:17,266\n我剛剛報告過我們這個案子有分成車輛分組那車輛分組裡面對幼童專用車的車輛安全法規相關我們會進行檢視那至於他這個車輛安全檢測的機組是不是要導入什麼比較科技化的系統裡面這個是不是有交通部來的\n\n19\n00:07:19,698 --> 00:07:44,211\n首先很感佩委員對於幼童專用車或是校車上的一個長期的關注剛才特別提到的這些問題都是問題而且也就是剛才委員剛才特別提到要導入國際認可的或國際的法規裡頭其實就是因為車輛的本身是有國際化的所以剛才講到的現行的那個德力卡是箱型車所以它不做實車碰撞這是限制\n\n20\n00:07:44,811 --> 00:08:02,311\n委員提到的這個建議我比較具體的建議可以容許我們回去研究一下然後特別跟委員做一個來告訴委員說我們打算怎麼做我覺得站在兒童交通安全上是可以有一些作為那具體怎麼做再來跟委員討教\n\n21\n00:08:03,232 --> 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