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00:01:38,488\n週刊就報導了。沒錯吧?我有誣賴你們嗎?沒錯吧?還是要我調新聞資料出來給你?還是說你完全沒掌握?你這7255件有沒有包含這些事情有沒有?有沒有包含嘛?有沒有包含嘛?沒關係你回去列個報告給我。7255件我想知道是哪?7255件資料準備一下。\n\n5\n00:01:49,480 --> 00:02:08,854\n第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、第三百五條之\n\n6\n00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:35,697\n誰拿到這些資料你不要講今天連監察院都看你們看不下去啦監察院一百零八年十二月公布的調查報告明確指出檢調偵辦社會矚目案件違反偵查不公開等刑嚴重侵犯人權聯邦法本會委員會的黃國昌委員向北檢告發的司法案件也被外洩媒體為公眾所知\n\n7\n00:02:36,758 --> 00:03:04,390\n我自己都被檢察官約談過啊我還跟上次說過啊檢察官跟我講說偵查不公開羅先生請你出去不要講我出去不講結果週刊寫出一大堆扭曲我在偵查這個所謂的作證的時候講的話奇怪是我洩漏的嗎我當然知道啦我前面問法務部長就堅決否認是檢察官洩漏為什麼因為我也抓不到啊因為我又不是司法警察我又沒警察權\n\n8\n00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:33,180\n所以我要回頭講齁你今天跟我講內部內控機制到現在為止我剛剛前面講7255件喔多不多啊多不多啊市長你的數字觀數字直觀也許答不出來我跟你講一般民眾看到這個數字很可怕可是檢察官很棒啊因為違反偵查不公開遭起訴的幾個你告訴我喔當然是沒有零吶\n\n9\n00:03:35,227 --> 00:03:53,644\n檢察官每個都是聖人還是神人啊那麼多的案件你一個都沒有辦法今天告訴我說今天規則然後通通跟我講檢察官沒事我還相信你的內控嗎我就要講一個最簡單的事情為什麼球員不能兼裁判為什麼為什麼永遠不能只依賴內控為什麼為什麼因為人就有人性\n\n10\n00:03:58,550 --> 00:04:23,528\n檢察官現在有多少檢察官?全國大概一千四百個檢察官一千四百個我相信一千三百九十九個都是很棒的檢察官但你保證那一個檢察官有一個檢察官他今天把偵查資訊洩漏媒體他今天甚至也有不肖的司法警察人員把偵查的把所有收集的資料賣給詐欺集團有沒有這個案例有沒有\n\n11\n00:04:24,663 --> 00:04:51,124\n司法警察部門有起訴有嘛對不對對所以換言之人性死的內控機制基本先天就有缺陷啊更何況我今天講的招招攬今天你們法務部跟我講我剛所有偵查部公開事件主管機關不就是法務部不是吧是吧不然你們幹嘛組小組去檢討啊那個是偵查部門該作為辦法裡面所規定對嘛但是你的績效拿出來你覺得能服眾嗎\n\n12\n00:04:53,629 --> 00:05:21,462\n我現在看到就偵查大公開時代啦所以第一個為什麼今天要講偵查不公開要法治化也是為檢察官好今天為什麼要偵查不公開不就是若實無罪推定嘛免得偵查公開你去帶風向嘛對不對現在抱歉每次發生任何案件這些所有的案件當事人照這個偵查大公開的內容不用等審判全世界都認為他已經貪污定驗了結果貪污定罪率六成\n\n13\n00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:44,133\n被大公開的三層最後被判無罪可是抱歉中間被霸凌被所謂的扒皮已經是精靈的所有有罪貼定的過程了啦那今天從偵查部公開今天司法法務部這邊吼內控大敗壞這件事我要講下一個嚴重的問題了這也是我質詢部長\n\n14\n00:05:46,773 --> 00:06:11,771\n四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三\n\n15\n00:06:16,758 --> 00:06:38,895\n我只看到一面倒要求檢察官給你武器可是呢GPS24小時內要不要通知當事人照你們的白門要不要通知當事人法條上沒有規定要通知當事人透過內控來處理沒有通知當事人你不要給我轉彎你只是內控而已我剛剛前面講你今天內控績效好我站這邊我沒有資格講你什麼\n\n16\n00:06:40,336 --> 00:07:00,452\n我相信你的內控嗎?我說那一千四百個檢察官有一個檢察官今天他就把這GPS資料他拿出去交給又是八卦週刊同一個再不然就是交給詐欺集團再不然就是交給所謂的天眼局王一川我知道嗎?\n\n17\n00:07:02,125 --> 00:07:20,461\n二）刑事訴訟法第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條\n\n18\n00:07:24,485 --> 00:07:25,646\n三）委員羅智強等27人擬具«刑事訴訟法第二百\n\n19\n00:07:51,687 --> 00:08:07,113\n三十四條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十\n\n20\n00:08:09,437 --> 00:08:27,456\n所以今天為什麼在這邊一直呼籲事前的階段我到現在還沒有時間討論事前該裁檢察官保安法官保安是完全就是今天相信檢察官我這個都已經沒時間討論了但是這些你都可以為了打仗的效率你還講得出一點理由啦\n\n21\n00:08:28,497 --> 00:08:48,050\n事後通知也不做事後的所謂的救濟沒有通知哪來的救濟啊事後的損害賠償的監管事後資料的銷毀的外控機制你都跟我講內控可以做啊所以到這邊你叫我怎麼相信今天你不是假借科證法假借所謂通保法\n\n22\n00:08:49,111 --> 00:09:07,915\n打詐目的也許有但是你附帶去政治偵訪人民甚至出賣人民的個人隱私資料給八卦週刊甚至給詐欺集團我沒有辦法管制啊我沒辦法了解啊事後跟事前最大的差別事後跟打詐一點關係都沒有沒錯吧事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎會不會我先問你嘛事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎\n\n23\n00:09:20,243 --> 00:09:33,628\n對嘛!那不要再拿打詐做藉口你都認證了事後通知只是讓你多一道手續你連偵查作為都做的時候你不要跟我講事後通知你做不到事後通知只是增加一道手續跟打詐是沒有關係的沒錯吧!\n\n24\n00:09:34,828 --> 00:09:38,490\n包括所謂的救濟管道的基因石包括所謂的損害賠償責任的建制有沒有\n\n25\n00:09:51,738 --> 00:10:02,566\n三（委員羅智強等27人擬具:「刑事訴訟法第二百五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、四十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一（\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3803\t21197\t有請市長市長你知道我們現在的司法的有一個最新的一個進步的時代叫做偵查大公開時代吧你知道吧\n22466\t50276\t你知道吧?偵查不公開是偵查大公開你搞錯你現在我們偵查大公開時代你都搞不清楚我跟你講偵查大公開時代不是我個人的說法也不是你個人的認知請問一下108年到112年底然後經過機關收集資料小組列入檢討的偵查不公開之餘有違反偵查不公開之餘的案件有多少件你告訴我\n53337\t78166\t七千兩百五十五件偵查大公開啊當然我知道你也進去啦除非你今天不看報紙你幾乎每重大案件我想要請問次長不管是楊文科案、高雄安案、林志妙案只要檢方發動任何的偵查手段第二天、第三天、第四天\n79793\t98488\t週刊就報導了。沒錯吧?我有誣賴你們嗎?沒錯吧?還是要我調新聞資料出來給你?還是說你完全沒掌握?你這7255件有沒有包含這些事情有沒有?有沒有包含嘛?有沒有包含嘛?沒關係你回去列個報告給我。7255件我想知道是哪?7255件資料準備一下。\n109480\t128854\t第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、第三百五條之\n130095\t155697\t誰拿到這些資料你不要講今天連監察院都看你們看不下去啦監察院一百零八年十二月公布的調查報告明確指出檢調偵辦社會矚目案件違反偵查不公開等刑嚴重侵犯人權聯邦法本會委員會的黃國昌委員向北檢告發的司法案件也被外洩媒體為公眾所知\n156758\t184390\t我自己都被檢察官約談過啊我還跟上次說過啊檢察官跟我講說偵查不公開羅先生請你出去不要講我出去不講結果週刊寫出一大堆扭曲我在偵查這個所謂的作證的時候講的話奇怪是我洩漏的嗎我當然知道啦我前面問法務部長就堅決否認是檢察官洩漏為什麼因為我也抓不到啊因為我又不是司法警察我又沒警察權\n185669\t213180\t所以我要回頭講齁你今天跟我講內部內控機制到現在為止我剛剛前面講7255件喔多不多啊多不多啊市長你的數字觀數字直觀也許答不出來我跟你講一般民眾看到這個數字很可怕可是檢察官很棒啊因為違反偵查不公開遭起訴的幾個你告訴我喔當然是沒有零吶\n215227\t233644\t檢察官每個都是聖人還是神人啊那麼多的案件你一個都沒有辦法今天告訴我說今天規則然後通通跟我講檢察官沒事我還相信你的內控嗎我就要講一個最簡單的事情為什麼球員不能兼裁判為什麼為什麼永遠不能只依賴內控為什麼為什麼因為人就有人性\n238550\t263528\t檢察官現在有多少檢察官?全國大概一千四百個檢察官一千四百個我相信一千三百九十九個都是很棒的檢察官但你保證那一個檢察官有一個檢察官他今天把偵查資訊洩漏媒體他今天甚至也有不肖的司法警察人員把偵查的把所有收集的資料賣給詐欺集團有沒有這個案例有沒有\n264663\t291124\t司法警察部門有起訴有嘛 對不對對所以換言之人性死的內控機制基本先天就有缺陷啊更何況我今天講的招招攬今天你們法務部跟我講我剛所有偵查部公開事件主管機關不就是法務部不是吧是吧不然你們幹嘛組小組去檢討啊那個是偵查部門該作為辦法裡面所規定對嘛但是你的績效拿出來你覺得能服眾嗎\n293629\t321462\t我現在看到就偵查大公開時代啦所以第一個為什麼今天要講偵查不公開要法治化也是為檢察官好今天為什麼要偵查不公開不就是若實無罪推定嘛免得偵查公開你去帶風向嘛對不對現在抱歉每次發生任何案件這些所有的案件當事人照這個偵查大公開的內容不用等審判全世界都認為他已經貪污定驗了結果貪污定罪率六成\n322452\t344133\t被大公開的三層最後被判無罪可是抱歉中間被霸凌被所謂的扒皮已經是精靈的所有有罪貼定的過程了啦那今天從偵查部公開今天司法法務部這邊吼內控大敗壞這件事我要講下一個嚴重的問題了這也是我質詢部長\n346773\t371771\t四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三\n376758\t398895\t我只看到一面倒要求檢察官給你武器可是呢GPS24小時內要不要通知當事人照你們的白門要不要通知當事人法條上沒有規定要通知當事人透過內控來處理沒有通知當事人你不要給我轉彎你只是內控而已我剛剛前面講你今天內控績效好我站這邊我沒有資格講你什麼\n400336\t420452\t我相信你的內控嗎?我說那一千四百個檢察官有一個檢察官今天他就把這GPS資料他拿出去交給又是八卦週刊同一個再不然就是交給詐欺集團再不然就是交給所謂的天眼局王一川我知道嗎?\n422125\t440461\t二）刑事訴訟法第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條\n444485\t445646\t三）委員羅智強等27人擬具 «刑事訴訟法第二百\n471687\t487113\t三十四條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十\n489437\t507456\t所以今天為什麼在這邊一直呼籲事前的階段我到現在還沒有時間討論事前該裁檢察官保安法官保安是完全就是今天相信檢察官我這個都已經沒時間討論了但是這些你都可以為了打仗的效率你還講得出一點理由啦\n508497\t528050\t事後通知也不做事後的所謂的救濟沒有通知哪來的救濟啊事後的損害賠償的監管事後資料的銷毀的外控機制你都跟我講內控可以做啊所以到這邊你叫我怎麼相信今天你不是假借科證法假借所謂通保法\n529111\t547915\t打詐目的也許有但是你附帶去政治偵訪人民甚至出賣人民的個人隱私資料給八卦週刊甚至給詐欺集團我沒有辦法管制啊我沒辦法了解啊事後跟事前最大的差別事後跟打詐一點關係都沒有沒錯吧事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎會不會我先問你嘛事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎\n560243\t573628\t對嘛!那不要再拿打詐做藉口你都認證了事後通知只是讓你多一道手續你連偵查作為都做的時候你不要跟我講事後通知你做不到事後通知只是增加一道手續跟打詐是沒有關係的沒錯吧!\n574828\t578490\t包括所謂的救濟管道的基因石包括所謂的損害賠償責任的建制有沒有\n591738\t602566\t三（委員羅智強等27人擬具:「刑事訴訟法第二百五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、四十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一（\n","txt":"有請市長市長你知道我們現在的司法的有一個最新的一個進步的時代叫做偵查大公開時代吧你知道吧\n你知道吧?偵查不公開是偵查大公開你搞錯你現在我們偵查大公開時代你都搞不清楚我跟你講偵查大公開時代不是我個人的說法也不是你個人的認知請問一下108年到112年底然後經過機關收集資料小組列入檢討的偵查不公開之餘有違反偵查不公開之餘的案件有多少件你告訴我\n七千兩百五十五件偵查大公開啊當然我知道你也進去啦除非你今天不看報紙你幾乎每重大案件我想要請問次長不管是楊文科案、高雄安案、林志妙案只要檢方發動任何的偵查手段第二天、第三天、第四天\n週刊就報導了。沒錯吧?我有誣賴你們嗎?沒錯吧?還是要我調新聞資料出來給你?還是說你完全沒掌握?你這7255件有沒有包含這些事情有沒有?有沒有包含嘛?有沒有包含嘛?沒關係你回去列個報告給我。7255件我想知道是哪?7255件資料準備一下。\n第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、第三百五條之\n誰拿到這些資料你不要講今天連監察院都看你們看不下去啦監察院一百零八年十二月公布的調查報告明確指出檢調偵辦社會矚目案件違反偵查不公開等刑嚴重侵犯人權聯邦法本會委員會的黃國昌委員向北檢告發的司法案件也被外洩媒體為公眾所知\n我自己都被檢察官約談過啊我還跟上次說過啊檢察官跟我講說偵查不公開羅先生請你出去不要講我出去不講結果週刊寫出一大堆扭曲我在偵查這個所謂的作證的時候講的話奇怪是我洩漏的嗎我當然知道啦我前面問法務部長就堅決否認是檢察官洩漏為什麼因為我也抓不到啊因為我又不是司法警察我又沒警察權\n所以我要回頭講齁你今天跟我講內部內控機制到現在為止我剛剛前面講7255件喔多不多啊多不多啊市長你的數字觀數字直觀也許答不出來我跟你講一般民眾看到這個數字很可怕可是檢察官很棒啊因為違反偵查不公開遭起訴的幾個你告訴我喔當然是沒有零吶\n檢察官每個都是聖人還是神人啊那麼多的案件你一個都沒有辦法今天告訴我說今天規則然後通通跟我講檢察官沒事我還相信你的內控嗎我就要講一個最簡單的事情為什麼球員不能兼裁判為什麼為什麼永遠不能只依賴內控為什麼為什麼因為人就有人性\n檢察官現在有多少檢察官?全國大概一千四百個檢察官一千四百個我相信一千三百九十九個都是很棒的檢察官但你保證那一個檢察官有一個檢察官他今天把偵查資訊洩漏媒體他今天甚至也有不肖的司法警察人員把偵查的把所有收集的資料賣給詐欺集團有沒有這個案例有沒有\n司法警察部門有起訴有嘛 對不對對所以換言之人性死的內控機制基本先天就有缺陷啊更何況我今天講的招招攬今天你們法務部跟我講我剛所有偵查部公開事件主管機關不就是法務部不是吧是吧不然你們幹嘛組小組去檢討啊那個是偵查部門該作為辦法裡面所規定對嘛但是你的績效拿出來你覺得能服眾嗎\n我現在看到就偵查大公開時代啦所以第一個為什麼今天要講偵查不公開要法治化也是為檢察官好今天為什麼要偵查不公開不就是若實無罪推定嘛免得偵查公開你去帶風向嘛對不對現在抱歉每次發生任何案件這些所有的案件當事人照這個偵查大公開的內容不用等審判全世界都認為他已經貪污定驗了結果貪污定罪率六成\n被大公開的三層最後被判無罪可是抱歉中間被霸凌被所謂的扒皮已經是精靈的所有有罪貼定的過程了啦那今天從偵查部公開今天司法法務部這邊吼內控大敗壞這件事我要講下一個嚴重的問題了這也是我質詢部長\n四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三\n我只看到一面倒要求檢察官給你武器可是呢GPS24小時內要不要通知當事人照你們的白門要不要通知當事人法條上沒有規定要通知當事人透過內控來處理沒有通知當事人你不要給我轉彎你只是內控而已我剛剛前面講你今天內控績效好我站這邊我沒有資格講你什麼\n我相信你的內控嗎?我說那一千四百個檢察官有一個檢察官今天他就把這GPS資料他拿出去交給又是八卦週刊同一個再不然就是交給詐欺集團再不然就是交給所謂的天眼局王一川我知道嗎?\n二）刑事訴訟法第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條\n三）委員羅智強等27人擬具 «刑事訴訟法第二百\n三十四條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十\n所以今天為什麼在這邊一直呼籲事前的階段我到現在還沒有時間討論事前該裁檢察官保安法官保安是完全就是今天相信檢察官我這個都已經沒時間討論了但是這些你都可以為了打仗的效率你還講得出一點理由啦\n事後通知也不做事後的所謂的救濟沒有通知哪來的救濟啊事後的損害賠償的監管事後資料的銷毀的外控機制你都跟我講內控可以做啊所以到這邊你叫我怎麼相信今天你不是假借科證法假借所謂通保法\n打詐目的也許有但是你附帶去政治偵訪人民甚至出賣人民的個人隱私資料給八卦週刊甚至給詐欺集團我沒有辦法管制啊我沒辦法了解啊事後跟事前最大的差別事後跟打詐一點關係都沒有沒錯吧事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎會不會我先問你嘛事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎\n對嘛!那不要再拿打詐做藉口你都認證了事後通知只是讓你多一道手續你連偵查作為都做的時候你不要跟我講事後通知你做不到事後通知只是增加一道手續跟打詐是沒有關係的沒錯吧!\n包括所謂的救濟管道的基因石包括所謂的損害賠償責任的建制有沒有\n三（委員羅智強等27人擬具:「刑事訴訟法第二百五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、四十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一、五十五條之一（\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.803 --> 00:21.197\n有請市長市長你知道我們現在的司法的有一個最新的一個進步的時代叫做偵查大公開時代吧你知道吧\n\n00:22.466 --> 00:50.276\n你知道吧?偵查不公開是偵查大公開你搞錯你現在我們偵查大公開時代你都搞不清楚我跟你講偵查大公開時代不是我個人的說法也不是你個人的認知請問一下108年到112年底然後經過機關收集資料小組列入檢討的偵查不公開之餘有違反偵查不公開之餘的案件有多少件你告訴我\n\n00:53.337 --> 01:18.166\n七千兩百五十五件偵查大公開啊當然我知道你也進去啦除非你今天不看報紙你幾乎每重大案件我想要請問次長不管是楊文科案、高雄安案、林志妙案只要檢方發動任何的偵查手段第二天、第三天、第四天\n\n01:19.793 --> 01:38.488\n週刊就報導了。沒錯吧?我有誣賴你們嗎?沒錯吧?還是要我調新聞資料出來給你?還是說你完全沒掌握?你這7255件有沒有包含這些事情有沒有?有沒有包含嘛?有沒有包含嘛?沒關係你回去列個報告給我。7255件我想知道是哪?7255件資料準備一下。\n\n01:49.480 --> 02:08.854\n第二百四十五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第二百五條之一、第三百五條之一、第三百五條之\n\n02:10.095 --> 02:35.697\n誰拿到這些資料你不要講今天連監察院都看你們看不下去啦監察院一百零八年十二月公布的調查報告明確指出檢調偵辦社會矚目案件違反偵查不公開等刑嚴重侵犯人權聯邦法本會委員會的黃國昌委員向北檢告發的司法案件也被外洩媒體為公眾所知\n\n02:36.758 --> 03:04.390\n我自己都被檢察官約談過啊我還跟上次說過啊檢察官跟我講說偵查不公開羅先生請你出去不要講我出去不講結果週刊寫出一大堆扭曲我在偵查這個所謂的作證的時候講的話奇怪是我洩漏的嗎我當然知道啦我前面問法務部長就堅決否認是檢察官洩漏為什麼因為我也抓不到啊因為我又不是司法警察我又沒警察權\n\n03:05.669 --> 03:33.180\n所以我要回頭講齁你今天跟我講內部內控機制到現在為止我剛剛前面講7255件喔多不多啊多不多啊市長你的數字觀數字直觀也許答不出來我跟你講一般民眾看到這個數字很可怕可是檢察官很棒啊因為違反偵查不公開遭起訴的幾個你告訴我喔當然是沒有零吶\n\n03:35.227 --> 03:53.644\n檢察官每個都是聖人還是神人啊那麼多的案件你一個都沒有辦法今天告訴我說今天規則然後通通跟我講檢察官沒事我還相信你的內控嗎我就要講一個最簡單的事情為什麼球員不能兼裁判為什麼為什麼永遠不能只依賴內控為什麼為什麼因為人就有人性\n\n03:58.550 --> 04:23.528\n檢察官現在有多少檢察官?全國大概一千四百個檢察官一千四百個我相信一千三百九十九個都是很棒的檢察官但你保證那一個檢察官有一個檢察官他今天把偵查資訊洩漏媒體他今天甚至也有不肖的司法警察人員把偵查的把所有收集的資料賣給詐欺集團有沒有這個案例有沒有\n\n04:24.663 --> 04:51.124\n司法警察部門有起訴有嘛對不對對所以換言之人性死的內控機制基本先天就有缺陷啊更何況我今天講的招招攬今天你們法務部跟我講我剛所有偵查部公開事件主管機關不就是法務部不是吧是吧不然你們幹嘛組小組去檢討啊那個是偵查部門該作為辦法裡面所規定對嘛但是你的績效拿出來你覺得能服眾嗎\n\n04:53.629 --> 05:21.462\n我現在看到就偵查大公開時代啦所以第一個為什麼今天要講偵查不公開要法治化也是為檢察官好今天為什麼要偵查不公開不就是若實無罪推定嘛免得偵查公開你去帶風向嘛對不對現在抱歉每次發生任何案件這些所有的案件當事人照這個偵查大公開的內容不用等審判全世界都認為他已經貪污定驗了結果貪污定罪率六成\n\n05:22.452 --> 05:44.133\n被大公開的三層最後被判無罪可是抱歉中間被霸凌被所謂的扒皮已經是精靈的所有有罪貼定的過程了啦那今天從偵查部公開今天司法法務部這邊吼內控大敗壞這件事我要講下一個嚴重的問題了這也是我質詢部長\n\n05:46.773 --> 06:11.771\n四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三\n\n06:16.758 --> 06:38.895\n我只看到一面倒要求檢察官給你武器可是呢GPS24小時內要不要通知當事人照你們的白門要不要通知當事人法條上沒有規定要通知當事人透過內控來處理沒有通知當事人你不要給我轉彎你只是內控而已我剛剛前面講你今天內控績效好我站這邊我沒有資格講你什麼\n\n06:40.336 --> 07:00.452\n我相信你的內控嗎?我說那一千四百個檢察官有一個檢察官今天他就把這GPS資料他拿出去交給又是八卦週刊同一個再不然就是交給詐欺集團再不然就是交給所謂的天眼局王一川我知道嗎?\n\n07:02.125 --> 07:20.461\n二）刑事訴訟法第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條\n\n07:24.485 --> 07:25.646\n三）委員羅智強等27人擬具«刑事訴訟法第二百\n\n07:51.687 --> 08:07.113\n三十四條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第二百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第三百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十五條之一、第一百四十\n\n08:09.437 --> 08:27.456\n所以今天為什麼在這邊一直呼籲事前的階段我到現在還沒有時間討論事前該裁檢察官保安法官保安是完全就是今天相信檢察官我這個都已經沒時間討論了但是這些你都可以為了打仗的效率你還講得出一點理由啦\n\n08:28.497 --> 08:48.050\n事後通知也不做事後的所謂的救濟沒有通知哪來的救濟啊事後的損害賠償的監管事後資料的銷毀的外控機制你都跟我講內控可以做啊所以到這邊你叫我怎麼相信今天你不是假借科證法假借所謂通保法\n\n08:49.111 --> 09:07.915\n打詐目的也許有但是你附帶去政治偵訪人民甚至出賣人民的個人隱私資料給八卦週刊甚至給詐欺集團我沒有辦法管制啊我沒辦法了解啊事後跟事前最大的差別事後跟打詐一點關係都沒有沒錯吧事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎會不會我先問你嘛事後通知會妨礙你打詐嗎\n\n09:20.243 --> 09:33.628\n對嘛!那不要再拿打詐做藉口你都認證了事後通知只是讓你多一道手續你連偵查作為都做的時候你不要跟我講事後通知你做不到事後通知只是增加一道手續跟打詐是沒有關係的沒錯吧!\n\n09:34.828 --> 09:38.490\n包括所謂的救濟管道的基因石包括所謂的損害賠償責任的建制有沒有\n\n09:51.738 --> 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