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00:01:57,126\n跟委員報告,這個針對這個議題就是有關於這個女性伴侶對於她的伴侶有這個毒癮有這個情感依附跟暴力的這個的脅迫的情況之下暴力控制情況之下其實高檢署已經這個有幾個\n\n7\n00:01:59,409 --> 00:02:07,375\n具體措施要各地檢署來落實執行。第一個就是包括結合女性藥癮團體規劃緩起訴處分的這個課程簡單的講就是要讓這個藥癮或毒癮的女性能夠遠離她這個男伴以這個諮商其他這個有這個緩起訴的課程來讓她\n\n8\n00:02:23,165 --> 00:02:25,206\n來加強他的家庭支持及伴侶支持\n\n9\n00:02:52,455 --> 00:03:12,315\n再來就是開發女性藥品收容處所現在開發的9處就是為了要讓她遠離這個她的生活圈包括前面講的這個有這個毒癮的男性伴侶所有開發9處的這個收容處所能夠安置她在這段安置她\n\n10\n00:03:14,117 --> 00:03:31,509\n再來就是有關於這個矯正機關的跟矯正機關結合的技能訓練那再來就是有關於他懷孕的期間要引的連結地方政府能夠提供醫療的產檢以及這個醫療的服務這個現在目前我們在執行的這個狀況簡單來說是要幫助他能夠分手嗎?\n\n11\n00:03:38,354 --> 00:04:00,630\n但是分手之後心理的支持和社會的支持我們這幾年其實我們整個新世代反毒的綱領最重要的就是導入治療導入社工相關的支持要來提供所以我想這個後續我們要有一個成效的分析來看看哪些作為是有效的那台北市政府裡面有毒品交易這個駭人聽聞\n\n12\n00:04:03,624 --> 00:04:20,162\n我們甚至還有看到有些縣市是有毒品熱點像我就有收到澄清苗栗有一家阿帕契電子油液廠被查獲的毒品案件是數十次那這個判決書上面都有記載\n\n13\n00:04:22,196 --> 00:04:29,781\n很多人是約好就在阿帕契電子遊藝場裡面來買毒來販毒所以我想要詢問法務部我們對於這一種毒品的交易熱點這個可以說就熱點嘛多次發生多次查獲但是查獲之後還不斷發生毒品交易的熱點我們有沒有這個策略能夠來加強查緝\n\n14\n00:04:46,773 --> 00:04:48,794\n您們有沒有去統計這些毒品交易的熱點?\n\n15\n00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,781\n市長我講的阿帕契這一案你知不知道?\n\n16\n00:05:22,571 --> 00:05:39,502\n有沒有聽聞?因為很多傳聞說有沒有包庇的情勢為什麼多次發生多次查獲還持續發生有毒品交易的案件所以我要請你們特別去注意因為這是全國可能各縣市都有這樣相關的毒品交易熱點就我所知這一個個案他這個也是跟人家租的所以房東也相當困擾所以請你們務必\n\n17\n00:05:49,368 --> 00:05:51,009\n新世紀反毒綱領2017年開始推動政府總共投入的經費250億這麼高額的金額\n\n18\n00:06:10,697 --> 00:06:10,717\n吳沛憶\n\n19\n00:06:22,211 --> 00:06:47,006\n看了一下統計的數據我們毒品的高峰年最高峰的那一年是在2015年也就是我們這10年來我們目前的毒品防制毒品的使用比例市長有沒有下降有下降很多而且還主連在下降著至少這樣看下來叫下降一半下降一半那這個我們持續在努力著\n\n20\n00:06:49,068 --> 00:06:56,697\n我看一下你們今天的報告有這個使用人數但我認為要看成效其實一個是這個出犯人口有沒有下降因為出犯的人是我們希望防止當出犯的人減少因為他進來之後可能後面就是一個迴旋你們有沒有出犯人口的統計\n\n21\n00:07:07,829 --> 00:07:18,001\n107年其實有關於整個偵查毒品偵查的一個收案量在107年是這個出犯的毒品是用人口是佔比23.1%\n\n22\n00:07:21,084 --> 00:07:21,644\n我相信這個成效是逐漸呈現的了\n\n23\n00:07:43,098 --> 00:07:55,869\n甚至如果我幫你統計10年以來毒品出犯人數下降的是超過6成那還有一個要關注的指標是你的再犯率再犯率有沒有下降你們有沒有統計數字報告裡面都沒有啊\n\n24\n00:08:02,093 --> 00:08:24,183\n我跟你們調了資料啦你的毒品再犯率前第一期跟第一期相比起來一二級毒品你是下降了將近五成以上三四級毒品也下降但是反而我很關注的一個數字兒少的案件在你的下降的再犯率兒少毒品再犯率的案件下降的比例反而是\n\n25\n00:08:25,447 --> 00:08:25,927\n委員會主席委員會主席\n\n26\n00:08:56,012 --> 00:09:24,731\n這個計劃是從111年的8月份開始執行要追蹤兩年那我們這個下降的目標值是1.5%好我們這個兒少毒品防制少福會很重要所以我要請問警政署因為少福會我們一直關切的是人力不足開案數太少那之前你們告訴我們說人力要來補充我們少福會的社工嘛我們今年的補充人數有沒有補足了呢\n\n27\n00:09:26,273 --> 00:09:27,114\n我們有沒有預計人力要再來提升?\n\n28\n00:09:46,445 --> 00:10:13,344\n目前階段性補充到底人力補充之後我們要看你們的優惠的成果很重要的是我看我們在去年12月毒品防制會報當中警政署提到現行非在學者施用第三次級毒品是由你們少府會來做輔導那如果是在學的話如果在學是由學校來做輔導那相關的分工你們要再跟教育部來進行協調\n\n29\n00:10:15,486 --> 00:10:33,121\n坦白說我看到這個報告相當壓抑因為少府會新制去年上路嘛對不對上路之前我們已經籌備了三四年了欸少府會新制最重要的就是做橫向的溝通協調平台這個問題怎麼會等到上路之後才要再來協調我現在請問跟教育部協調了沒有\n\n30\n00:10:35,971 --> 00:10:45,393\n目前三四級毒品就是由我們少福會來做輔導那另外在校學生呢有春暉專案我們會利用春暉專案還有另外也是由少福會來進行輔導另外本署在這個專案報告裡面有書面資料有提到我們有進行三個層級的互相聯訪就情資會互換包括一些這個相互情資然後這個也會期前這個把相關的情資給這個教育單位來做一個期前的輔導我想相關的聯繫機制是目前是\n\n31\n00:11:05,077 --> 00:11:05,257\n謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9\t5193\t接下來請吳沛憶委員 吳委員質詢完畢之後我們就休息五分鐘 謝謝謝謝主席 我請法務部警政署好 我們先請法務部警政署兩個單位 謝謝委員好 司長好\n20154\t31027\t今天我們是進行毒品防治成效的報告那從報告的數據上看起來我們毒品防治是有成效的但是民眾可能會覺得很無感因為毒品案件不但是路邊攔查都查得到\n37714\t55533\t甚至呢就在我們臺北市政府竟然有公務員在臺北市政府的大門口來做毒品交易所以大眾看到這個新聞當然是覺得毒品非常的唱絕啊連臺北市政府裡面都有人在販毒\n56694\t78176\t北市府這起案件當然現在已經交給司法來處理本案的嫌犯他的毒品來源是他的男朋友他的男友那這個我覺得非常值得關注因為這不是一個個案衛福部其實有做出過分析報告女性藥物成癮者有三分之二\n79257\t97696\t這個來源是來自於男友、同居人或者是伴侶這個跟男性的毒品來源是會很不一樣的所以我想要請問因為過去也有專家建議過我在你們的匯報資料裡面有看過有建議我們要來做性別差異化的毒品防治這個我們在實務上有沒有開始在進行了\n102088\t117126\t跟委員報告,這個針對這個議題就是有關於這個女性伴侶對於她的伴侶有這個毒癮有這個情感依附跟暴力的這個的脅迫的情況之下暴力控制情況之下其實高檢署已經這個有幾個\n119409\t127375\t具體措施要各地檢署來落實執行。第一個就是包括結合女性藥癮團體規劃緩起訴處分的這個課程簡單的講就是要讓這個藥癮或毒癮的女性能夠遠離她這個男伴以這個諮商其他這個有這個緩起訴的課程來讓她\n143165\t145206\t來加強他的家庭支持及伴侶支持\n172455\t192315\t再來就是開發女性藥品收容處所現在開發的9處就是為了要讓她遠離這個她的生活圈包括前面講的這個有這個毒癮的男性伴侶所有開發9處的這個收容處所能夠安置她在這段安置她\n194117\t211509\t再來就是有關於這個矯正機關的跟矯正機關結合的技能訓練那再來就是有關於他懷孕的期間要引的連結地方政府能夠提供醫療的產檢以及這個醫療的服務這個現在目前我們在執行的這個狀況簡單來說是要幫助他能夠分手嗎?\n218354\t240630\t但是分手之後心理的支持和社會的支持我們這幾年其實我們整個新世代反毒的綱領最重要的就是導入治療導入社工相關的支持要來提供所以我想這個後續我們要有一個成效的分析來看看哪些作為是有效的那台北市政府裡面有毒品交易這個駭人聽聞\n243624\t260162\t我們甚至還有看到有些縣市是有毒品熱點像我就有收到澄清苗栗有一家阿帕契電子油液廠被查獲的毒品案件是數十次那這個判決書上面都有記載\n262196\t269781\t很多人是約好就在阿帕契電子遊藝場裡面來買毒來販毒所以我想要詢問法務部我們對於這一種毒品的交易熱點這個可以說就熱點嘛多次發生多次查獲但是查獲之後還不斷發生毒品交易的熱點我們有沒有這個策略能夠來加強查緝\n286773\t288794\t您們有沒有去統計這些毒品交易的熱點?\n304520\t305781\t市長我講的阿帕契這一案你知不知道?\n322571\t339502\t有沒有聽聞?因為很多傳聞說有沒有包庇的情勢為什麼多次發生多次查獲還持續發生有毒品交易的案件所以我要請你們特別去注意因為這是全國可能各縣市都有這樣相關的毒品交易熱點就我所知這一個個案他這個也是跟人家租的所以房東也相當困擾所以請你們務必\n349368\t351009\t新世紀反毒綱領2017年開始推動政府總共投入的經費250億這麼高額的金額\n370697\t370717\t吳沛憶\n382211\t407006\t看了一下統計的數據我們毒品的高峰年最高峰的那一年是在2015年也就是我們這10年來我們目前的毒品防制毒品的使用比例市長有沒有下降有下降很多而且還主連在下降著至少這樣看下來叫下降一半下降一半那這個我們持續在努力著\n409068\t416697\t我看一下你們今天的報告有這個使用人數但我認為要看成效其實一個是這個出犯人口有沒有下降因為出犯的人是我們希望防止當出犯的人減少因為他進來之後可能後面就是一個迴旋你們有沒有出犯人口的統計\n427829\t438001\t107年其實有關於整個偵查毒品偵查的一個收案量在107年是這個出犯的毒品是用人口是佔比23.1%\n441084\t441644\t我相信這個成效是逐漸呈現的了\n463098\t475869\t甚至如果我幫你統計10年以來毒品出犯人數下降的是超過6成那還有一個要關注的指標是你的再犯率再犯率有沒有下降你們有沒有統計數字報告裡面都沒有啊\n482093\t504183\t我跟你們調了資料啦你的毒品再犯率前第一期跟第一期相比起來一二級毒品你是下降了將近五成以上三四級毒品也下降但是反而我很關注的一個數字兒少的案件在你的下降的再犯率兒少毒品再犯率的案件下降的比例反而是\n505447\t505927\t委員會主席委員會主席\n536012\t564731\t這個計劃是從111年的8月份開始執行要追蹤兩年那我們這個下降的目標值是1.5%好 我們這個兒少毒品防制少福會很重要所以我要請問警政署因為少福會我們一直關切的是人力不足開案數太少那之前你們告訴我們說人力要來補充我們少福會的社工嘛我們今年的補充人數有沒有補足了呢\n566273\t567114\t我們有沒有預計人力要再來提升?\n586445\t613344\t目前階段性補充到底人力補充之後我們要看你們的優惠的成果很重要的是我看我們在去年12月毒品防制會報當中警政署提到現行非在學者施用第三次級毒品是由你們少府會來做輔導那如果是在學的話如果在學是由學校來做輔導那相關的分工你們要再跟教育部來進行協調\n615486\t633121\t坦白說我看到這個報告相當壓抑因為少府會新制去年上路嘛對不對上路之前我們已經籌備了三四年了欸少府會新制最重要的就是做橫向的溝通協調平台這個問題怎麼會等到上路之後才要再來協調我現在請問跟教育部協調了沒有\n635971\t645393\t目前三四級毒品就是由我們少福會來做輔導那另外在校學生呢有春暉專案我們會利用春暉專案還有另外也是由少福會來進行輔導另外本署在這個專案報告裡面有書面資料有提到我們有進行三個層級的互相聯訪就情資會互換包括一些這個相互情資然後這個也會期前這個把相關的情資給這個教育單位來做一個期前的輔導我想相關的聯繫機制是目前是\n665077\t665257\t謝謝主席\n","txt":"接下來請吳沛憶委員 吳委員質詢完畢之後我們就休息五分鐘 謝謝謝謝主席 我請法務部警政署好 我們先請法務部警政署兩個單位 謝謝委員好 司長好\n今天我們是進行毒品防治成效的報告那從報告的數據上看起來我們毒品防治是有成效的但是民眾可能會覺得很無感因為毒品案件不但是路邊攔查都查得到\n甚至呢就在我們臺北市政府竟然有公務員在臺北市政府的大門口來做毒品交易所以大眾看到這個新聞當然是覺得毒品非常的唱絕啊連臺北市政府裡面都有人在販毒\n北市府這起案件當然現在已經交給司法來處理本案的嫌犯他的毒品來源是他的男朋友他的男友那這個我覺得非常值得關注因為這不是一個個案衛福部其實有做出過分析報告女性藥物成癮者有三分之二\n這個來源是來自於男友、同居人或者是伴侶這個跟男性的毒品來源是會很不一樣的所以我想要請問因為過去也有專家建議過我在你們的匯報資料裡面有看過有建議我們要來做性別差異化的毒品防治這個我們在實務上有沒有開始在進行了\n跟委員報告,這個針對這個議題就是有關於這個女性伴侶對於她的伴侶有這個毒癮有這個情感依附跟暴力的這個的脅迫的情況之下暴力控制情況之下其實高檢署已經這個有幾個\n具體措施要各地檢署來落實執行。第一個就是包括結合女性藥癮團體規劃緩起訴處分的這個課程簡單的講就是要讓這個藥癮或毒癮的女性能夠遠離她這個男伴以這個諮商其他這個有這個緩起訴的課程來讓她\n來加強他的家庭支持及伴侶支持\n再來就是開發女性藥品收容處所現在開發的9處就是為了要讓她遠離這個她的生活圈包括前面講的這個有這個毒癮的男性伴侶所有開發9處的這個收容處所能夠安置她在這段安置她\n再來就是有關於這個矯正機關的跟矯正機關結合的技能訓練那再來就是有關於他懷孕的期間要引的連結地方政府能夠提供醫療的產檢以及這個醫療的服務這個現在目前我們在執行的這個狀況簡單來說是要幫助他能夠分手嗎?\n但是分手之後心理的支持和社會的支持我們這幾年其實我們整個新世代反毒的綱領最重要的就是導入治療導入社工相關的支持要來提供所以我想這個後續我們要有一個成效的分析來看看哪些作為是有效的那台北市政府裡面有毒品交易這個駭人聽聞\n我們甚至還有看到有些縣市是有毒品熱點像我就有收到澄清苗栗有一家阿帕契電子油液廠被查獲的毒品案件是數十次那這個判決書上面都有記載\n很多人是約好就在阿帕契電子遊藝場裡面來買毒來販毒所以我想要詢問法務部我們對於這一種毒品的交易熱點這個可以說就熱點嘛多次發生多次查獲但是查獲之後還不斷發生毒品交易的熱點我們有沒有這個策略能夠來加強查緝\n您們有沒有去統計這些毒品交易的熱點?\n市長我講的阿帕契這一案你知不知道?\n有沒有聽聞?因為很多傳聞說有沒有包庇的情勢為什麼多次發生多次查獲還持續發生有毒品交易的案件所以我要請你們特別去注意因為這是全國可能各縣市都有這樣相關的毒品交易熱點就我所知這一個個案他這個也是跟人家租的所以房東也相當困擾所以請你們務必\n新世紀反毒綱領2017年開始推動政府總共投入的經費250億這麼高額的金額\n吳沛憶\n看了一下統計的數據我們毒品的高峰年最高峰的那一年是在2015年也就是我們這10年來我們目前的毒品防制毒品的使用比例市長有沒有下降有下降很多而且還主連在下降著至少這樣看下來叫下降一半下降一半那這個我們持續在努力著\n我看一下你們今天的報告有這個使用人數但我認為要看成效其實一個是這個出犯人口有沒有下降因為出犯的人是我們希望防止當出犯的人減少因為他進來之後可能後面就是一個迴旋你們有沒有出犯人口的統計\n107年其實有關於整個偵查毒品偵查的一個收案量在107年是這個出犯的毒品是用人口是佔比23.1%\n我相信這個成效是逐漸呈現的了\n甚至如果我幫你統計10年以來毒品出犯人數下降的是超過6成那還有一個要關注的指標是你的再犯率再犯率有沒有下降你們有沒有統計數字報告裡面都沒有啊\n我跟你們調了資料啦你的毒品再犯率前第一期跟第一期相比起來一二級毒品你是下降了將近五成以上三四級毒品也下降但是反而我很關注的一個數字兒少的案件在你的下降的再犯率兒少毒品再犯率的案件下降的比例反而是\n委員會主席委員會主席\n這個計劃是從111年的8月份開始執行要追蹤兩年那我們這個下降的目標值是1.5%好 我們這個兒少毒品防制少福會很重要所以我要請問警政署因為少福會我們一直關切的是人力不足開案數太少那之前你們告訴我們說人力要來補充我們少福會的社工嘛我們今年的補充人數有沒有補足了呢\n我們有沒有預計人力要再來提升?\n目前階段性補充到底人力補充之後我們要看你們的優惠的成果很重要的是我看我們在去年12月毒品防制會報當中警政署提到現行非在學者施用第三次級毒品是由你們少府會來做輔導那如果是在學的話如果在學是由學校來做輔導那相關的分工你們要再跟教育部來進行協調\n坦白說我看到這個報告相當壓抑因為少府會新制去年上路嘛對不對上路之前我們已經籌備了三四年了欸少府會新制最重要的就是做橫向的溝通協調平台這個問題怎麼會等到上路之後才要再來協調我現在請問跟教育部協調了沒有\n目前三四級毒品就是由我們少福會來做輔導那另外在校學生呢有春暉專案我們會利用春暉專案還有另外也是由少福會來進行輔導另外本署在這個專案報告裡面有書面資料有提到我們有進行三個層級的互相聯訪就情資會互換包括一些這個相互情資然後這個也會期前這個把相關的情資給這個教育單位來做一個期前的輔導我想相關的聯繫機制是目前是\n謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.009 --> 00:05.193\n接下來請吳沛憶委員吳委員質詢完畢之後我們就休息五分鐘謝謝謝謝主席我請法務部警政署好我們先請法務部警政署兩個單位謝謝委員好司長好\n\n00:20.154 --> 00:31.027\n今天我們是進行毒品防治成效的報告那從報告的數據上看起來我們毒品防治是有成效的但是民眾可能會覺得很無感因為毒品案件不但是路邊攔查都查得到\n\n00:37.714 --> 00:55.533\n甚至呢就在我們臺北市政府竟然有公務員在臺北市政府的大門口來做毒品交易所以大眾看到這個新聞當然是覺得毒品非常的唱絕啊連臺北市政府裡面都有人在販毒\n\n00:56.694 --> 01:18.176\n北市府這起案件當然現在已經交給司法來處理本案的嫌犯他的毒品來源是他的男朋友他的男友那這個我覺得非常值得關注因為這不是一個個案衛福部其實有做出過分析報告女性藥物成癮者有三分之二\n\n01:19.257 --> 01:37.696\n這個來源是來自於男友、同居人或者是伴侶這個跟男性的毒品來源是會很不一樣的所以我想要請問因為過去也有專家建議過我在你們的匯報資料裡面有看過有建議我們要來做性別差異化的毒品防治這個我們在實務上有沒有開始在進行了\n\n01:42.088 --> 01:57.126\n跟委員報告,這個針對這個議題就是有關於這個女性伴侶對於她的伴侶有這個毒癮有這個情感依附跟暴力的這個的脅迫的情況之下暴力控制情況之下其實高檢署已經這個有幾個\n\n01:59.409 --> 02:07.375\n具體措施要各地檢署來落實執行。第一個就是包括結合女性藥癮團體規劃緩起訴處分的這個課程簡單的講就是要讓這個藥癮或毒癮的女性能夠遠離她這個男伴以這個諮商其他這個有這個緩起訴的課程來讓她\n\n02:23.165 --> 02:25.206\n來加強他的家庭支持及伴侶支持\n\n02:52.455 --> 03:12.315\n再來就是開發女性藥品收容處所現在開發的9處就是為了要讓她遠離這個她的生活圈包括前面講的這個有這個毒癮的男性伴侶所有開發9處的這個收容處所能夠安置她在這段安置她\n\n03:14.117 --> 03:31.509\n再來就是有關於這個矯正機關的跟矯正機關結合的技能訓練那再來就是有關於他懷孕的期間要引的連結地方政府能夠提供醫療的產檢以及這個醫療的服務這個現在目前我們在執行的這個狀況簡單來說是要幫助他能夠分手嗎?\n\n03:38.354 --> 04:00.630\n但是分手之後心理的支持和社會的支持我們這幾年其實我們整個新世代反毒的綱領最重要的就是導入治療導入社工相關的支持要來提供所以我想這個後續我們要有一個成效的分析來看看哪些作為是有效的那台北市政府裡面有毒品交易這個駭人聽聞\n\n04:03.624 --> 04:20.162\n我們甚至還有看到有些縣市是有毒品熱點像我就有收到澄清苗栗有一家阿帕契電子油液廠被查獲的毒品案件是數十次那這個判決書上面都有記載\n\n04:22.196 --> 04:29.781\n很多人是約好就在阿帕契電子遊藝場裡面來買毒來販毒所以我想要詢問法務部我們對於這一種毒品的交易熱點這個可以說就熱點嘛多次發生多次查獲但是查獲之後還不斷發生毒品交易的熱點我們有沒有這個策略能夠來加強查緝\n\n04:46.773 --> 04:48.794\n您們有沒有去統計這些毒品交易的熱點?\n\n05:04.520 --> 05:05.781\n市長我講的阿帕契這一案你知不知道?\n\n05:22.571 --> 05:39.502\n有沒有聽聞?因為很多傳聞說有沒有包庇的情勢為什麼多次發生多次查獲還持續發生有毒品交易的案件所以我要請你們特別去注意因為這是全國可能各縣市都有這樣相關的毒品交易熱點就我所知這一個個案他這個也是跟人家租的所以房東也相當困擾所以請你們務必\n\n05:49.368 --> 05:51.009\n新世紀反毒綱領2017年開始推動政府總共投入的經費250億這麼高額的金額\n\n06:10.697 --> 06:10.717\n吳沛憶\n\n06:22.211 --> 06:47.006\n看了一下統計的數據我們毒品的高峰年最高峰的那一年是在2015年也就是我們這10年來我們目前的毒品防制毒品的使用比例市長有沒有下降有下降很多而且還主連在下降著至少這樣看下來叫下降一半下降一半那這個我們持續在努力著\n\n06:49.068 --> 06:56.697\n我看一下你們今天的報告有這個使用人數但我認為要看成效其實一個是這個出犯人口有沒有下降因為出犯的人是我們希望防止當出犯的人減少因為他進來之後可能後面就是一個迴旋你們有沒有出犯人口的統計\n\n07:07.829 --> 07:18.001\n107年其實有關於整個偵查毒品偵查的一個收案量在107年是這個出犯的毒品是用人口是佔比23.1%\n\n07:21.084 --> 07:21.644\n我相信這個成效是逐漸呈現的了\n\n07:43.098 --> 07:55.869\n甚至如果我幫你統計10年以來毒品出犯人數下降的是超過6成那還有一個要關注的指標是你的再犯率再犯率有沒有下降你們有沒有統計數字報告裡面都沒有啊\n\n08:02.093 --> 08:24.183\n我跟你們調了資料啦你的毒品再犯率前第一期跟第一期相比起來一二級毒品你是下降了將近五成以上三四級毒品也下降但是反而我很關注的一個數字兒少的案件在你的下降的再犯率兒少毒品再犯率的案件下降的比例反而是\n\n08:25.447 --> 08:25.927\n委員會主席委員會主席\n\n08:56.012 --> 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