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00:00:45,380\n請兩位謝謝那部長好那主委好部長我之前已經跟您請教過關於中小企業的部分那我今天要繼續針對中小企業在AI這個面向要拜託國發會跟經濟部在你們所有所有人都只提到黃仁勛所有人都提到Supermicro的時候大家不要忘記了台灣的經濟主力是所有的中小企業這件事情我相信部長跟主委一定有放在心上對嗎\n\n3\n00:00:47,315 --> 00:01:15,717\n在賴總統的競選政見當中他有特別提到一定要在走向人工智慧島上的這個路上不要忘記台灣的傳統產業還有相關的服務業所以今天我雖然只有4分鐘但是我想要快速跟兩位請教在你們日後的政策規劃當中或是眼前已經在分配的資源當中是不是有協助到中小企業深化AI生態系還有相關AI轉型這件事情不要讓中小企業在這整個\n\n4\n00:01:16,718 --> 00:01:38,554\n在這個浪潮當中他們已經開始感到恐懼跟焦慮不知道政府將即將如何協助他們好嗎來下一頁我想要談的是傳統產業有非常多的樣態而且樣態上他們所需要的AI的協助截然的不同但是經濟部跟國發會你們在盤點相關政策跟資源的時候目前是不是已經開啟跟相關中小企業或是傳統產業的團體對話了呢已經開始了嗎\n\n5\n00:01:42,137 --> 00:01:46,804\n還是只有跟所謂的大廠、這種大公司、國際大廠碰過面?」我想要積極地問一下\n\n6\n00:01:49,260 --> 00:02:16,100\n我們這邊是有跟一些中南部的業者開始在溝通瞭解他們的需求這個是中南部的業者嗎?可能是單一?都是中小企業這個我覺得沒有問題主要是均衡台灣是總統政策包含產業的均衡所以我們對中小企業目前是有在明確的規劃但是聽起來好像沒有更具體的東西那經濟部這邊呢?報告委員經濟部這邊是先瞭解這些業者他們的需求\n\n7\n00:02:16,963 --> 00:02:25,812\n那因為這個智慧化、智能化我想我們了解他的需求才會針對他們的需求下去來調整那我們就離開科技業我們來回到所謂傳統產業或者是服務產業這件事情那我就先講出結論好了我希望經濟部跟國發會必須要積極整合你們必須要一起去想如何促進在地產業升級\n\n8\n00:02:40,086 --> 00:03:01,836\n因為這也可以積極協助他們缺工的問題我相信兩位來自業界一定非常清楚傳統產業面臨缺工的困境最後提供策略性的協助我就先講結論我們辦公室之後會積極跟國發會和經濟部討論這個相關的Discovery紀錄片裡面談到台灣的創新能量非常的強他們表現在智慧機械上這件事情我相信你們來自產業一定明白\n\n9\n00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:22,029\n那目前的困境就是台灣這些中小企業有沒有辦法承擔支付這樣的研發經費或者是他們有沒有辦法找到相關的研究單位協助他們去客製化他們的需求我相信一定有困境那例如說我時間有限我就不再舉例我以我在教育文化委員會最理解我們之前在推動的一個法案就是營養午餐法營養午餐產業\n\n10\n00:03:24,451 --> 00:03:49,797\n大量的缺工而且很多中年的或者是已經靠近60歲70歲的很多阿姨還有叔叔伯伯在現場他們要搬運他們要煮食然後他們有非常多細緻的工作有沒有機會透過協作機器人去解決我相信是有的台灣也有很多產業我們就不一一點名這些公司我想你們都非常清楚所以我要說有沒有機會你們真的針對不同業種的需求去理解他們去傾聽他們甚至幫他們找到適當的資源\n\n11\n00:03:52,878 --> 00:04:15,033\n因為你們要跟大公司對話真的非常非常容易可是我們非常多中小企業的團體跟朋友如同您說的在中南部的很多業者我相信他們現在非常非常的焦慮那我就不再一一舉例了我想要問目前我們可以提供給他們的我覺得是技術上他們非常不熟悉相關技術還有相關的成本他們到底要花出多少錢能夠得到多少效益他們也是沒有把握的所以我這邊想要拜託國發會跟經濟部\n\n12\n00:04:17,415 --> 00:04:39,595\n可不可以協助他們在三個部分一個是專業的顧問服務第二個是經費補助第三個是我們有沒有機會協助他們產業升級創新發展讓他們持續在台灣這個島上做自己喜歡而且做自己擅長的中小企業這件事情不要被AI的浪潮甩在後面謝謝委員的這個方向指導謝謝所以你要不要多說一點\n\n13\n00:04:40,999 --> 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