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00:02:57,962\n我們可以再來討論一下那個條件放寬一下其實就怕搞錯所以我後面直接就附了第12條真的是有一點吃硬不吃軟但沒有關係我們都一起來評估目前這個競爭很激烈希望請經濟部和國發會共同研議一個月內能不能提供本席的書面報告關於這個部分\n\n9\n00:03:00,422 --> 00:03:18,732\n報告委員可以好謝謝謝謝國發會在今天的報告當中也提到定標AI國際頂尖人才開展全球劣才計劃昨天這個院長我早上質詢完說美國白宮這個每一個部會都要有AI人才下午院長就說部部有AI\n\n10\n00:03:19,733 --> 00:03:43,660\n那我想我們的就業金卡還有人才AI人才不足我們希望能夠往外部往內就是從外部往內來往羅那我們一直在外流我們希望可以有入超所以半導體AI的產業眼睛快速人才的需求迫在眉睫現在就業金卡顯然不足能不能請教國發會留主委除了就業金卡以外我們能否研議新增條件較為彈性的AI就業銀卡\n\n11\n00:03:46,942 --> 00:03:50,288\n擴大對全球攬AI人才的機制\n\n12\n00:03:52,059 --> 00:04:19,081\n跟委員報告我們目前是因為現在是人才戰爭那它不僅僅是AI數位人才也很缺所以我們的公司所以呢我們現在是要準備正在我們現在找了6個國家做比較我們準備全面把它放寬太好了聽了太感動了不是只有AI因為各個地方的人才我們都需要吸引進來軟硬兼施好不好然後呢這個AI的產業因為既然都已經AI內閣我覺得稍微重視一下也不為過啦最後針對能源議題郭部長\n\n13\n00:04:20,962 --> 00:04:47,328\n本席知道您這段時間內也許內心有一定的掙扎、煎熬或評估我昨天本來要問你但時間有點衝觸今天有沒有更新說法因為過去這個我想這都不是大家的本意因為科學、事實、理性就擺在眼前那我想在此能不能爭取主席給我一點時間那我給郭部長一點時間能不能表達一下您現在對於核電廠演藝的看法\n\n14\n00:04:48,697 --> 00:05:02,546\n核電廠我的看法都沒有改變以現在的法規定我沒有辦法討論除去這個法以外就核電的部分我想它還是沒有辦法滿足綠電的需求\n\n15\n00:05:05,868 --> 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獨露IC設計業過去本席在質詢AI和晶片產業創新的議題的時候一直都在講四個字軟硬兼施隨著全球IC設計的產業競爭激烈\n107887\t130332\t同時生成式AI也可能導入到IC設計的行業裡頭我們有沒有可能由政府單位在租稅優惠上擴大範圍來幫助台廠的IC設計業甚至更多的AI或機器人或人型機器人的軟體業拉高研發的動能?國務部長、劉主委你們覺得廠商的建議合理嗎?國際趨勢是否將軟體研發的經費也納入稅務優惠的範圍?\n135253\t154225\t報告委員這個早上的這個吃軟不吃硬這個它沒有達到我們的標準它沒有達到標準不是我們沒有我們的產創條例是有的不過您的這個指導我在想說我們可以在為了將來的這整個IC業的這個設計業的發展\n158368\t177962\t我們可以再來討論一下那個條件放寬一下其實就怕搞錯所以我後面直接就附了第12條真的是有一點吃硬不吃軟但沒有關係我們都一起來評估目前這個競爭很激烈希望請經濟部和國發會共同研議一個月內能不能提供本席的書面報告關於這個部分\n180422\t198732\t報告委員可以好謝謝謝謝國發會在今天的報告當中也提到定標AI國際頂尖人才開展全球劣才計劃昨天這個院長我早上質詢完說美國白宮這個每一個部會都要有AI人才下午院長就說部部有AI\n199733\t223660\t那我想我們的就業金卡還有人才AI人才不足我們希望能夠往外部往內就是從外部往內來往羅那我們一直在外流我們希望可以有入超所以半導體AI的產業眼睛快速人才的需求迫在眉睫現在就業金卡顯然不足能不能請教國發會留主委除了就業金卡以外我們能否研議新增條件較為彈性的AI就業銀卡\n226942\t230288\t擴大對全球攬AI人才的機制\n232059\t259081\t跟委員報告我們目前是因為現在是人才戰爭那它不僅僅是AI數位人才也很缺所以我們的公司所以呢我們現在是要準備正在我們現在找了6個國家做比較我們準備全面把它放寬太好了聽了太感動了不是只有AI因為各個地方的人才我們都需要吸引進來軟硬兼施好不好然後呢這個AI的產業因為既然都已經AI內閣我覺得稍微重視一下也不為過啦最後針對能源議題郭部長\n260962\t287328\t本席知道您這段時間內也許內心有一定的掙扎、煎熬或評估我昨天本來要問你但時間有點衝觸今天有沒有更新說法因為過去這個我想這都不是大家的本意因為科學、事實、理性就擺在眼前那我想在此能不能爭取主席給我一點時間那我給郭部長一點時間能不能表達一下您現在對於核電廠演藝的看法\n288697\t302546\t核電廠我的看法都沒有改變以現在的法規定我沒有辦法討論除去這個法以外就核電的部分我想它還是沒有辦法滿足綠電的需求\n305868\t333011\t那如果說就其他的這個討論我想這個我們要討論這個核酸的核酸或者核二這些問題都不是在我們可以討論的範圍之內所以這一點我們會關注這個新的核能新的核電的這個發展因為美國我想美國日本這些先進國家他們也都在關注這些議題我們當然也是關注這個議題但是以目前來講\n334252\t351146\t我們現在的畢竟還是核廢料是非常大的處理的問題那這個安全上面我們確實目前是沒有辦法那而且運作了40年它必須要下來下來以後再重新來檢討檢討它確實沒有問題了我們才來考慮現在這個都不是在議題裡面\n355629\t370287\t非常抱歉謝謝部長您的回應我覺得還是相對客觀那我們也會持續的來交流核電的研議其實除了法規的修正我們希望行政院可以提出之外研議其實也是需要時間需要機組的整修這些其實是可以評估的\n373491\t394505\t而不是說我們有委員在這邊質詢結果就說目前為止有電那這樣以後我們只要燈還亮著我們是不是就不用質詢核電的議題其實不是這樣所以能源政策非常務實客觀那您昨天院長也有提到這個基本法有這個限制什麼時候突然我們的院長又對我們的這個法令對我們大院這個出台的法案又這麼的尊重\n395245\t423053\t我今天才從剛剛才從程序委員會用沖的沖過來我們就在處理複議案我們很尊重他的複議案但是我們立出來的法令結果變成這樣所以我想能源政策很科學客觀希望半導體和AI產業的未來提高了能源需求能不能請經濟部具體提出近5年因為半導體行業可能還會倍數增長我們講的是年增3%很可能都還是低估能不能提出近5年具備可行性的電力規劃讓產業\n425034\t425255\t安心。」\n","txt":"盧君委員請做詢答好 謝謝主席 大家都辛苦了有請經濟部部長、國發會主委、國科會林法政副主委備詢好 我們請以上三位\n謝謝也都辛苦了昨天本席在總質詢的時候有提到AI人型機器人的議題院長說政府都有在做那今天剛好經濟部、國發會、國科會都在這裡想請教您三個部會誰在主導國家的AI人型機器人Humanoid的政策三個部會是不是都有相關的計畫\n我看到有人在這個很誠實的搖頭我覺得這是很好的不然的話早上說A下午變成B也不好有關計劃的話我想還是給各位一點時間去搜羅一下也許有可能比較小規模怎麼樣能不能在今天下班前將資料提供給本席\n就有的話就提供沒有的話我們就知道沒有也沒有關係那機器人裡頭也很多軟體包括像是對話因為你要跟機器人講話眼睛機器人的眼睛要能夠看得懂這個世界同時也可能有新的IC需要被設計所以今天有媒體報導指出產業創新條例第十之二條的租稅抵減\n吃硬不吃軟 優惠硬體生產廠 獨露IC設計業過去本席在質詢AI和晶片產業創新的議題的時候一直都在講四個字軟硬兼施隨著全球IC設計的產業競爭激烈\n同時生成式AI也可能導入到IC設計的行業裡頭我們有沒有可能由政府單位在租稅優惠上擴大範圍來幫助台廠的IC設計業甚至更多的AI或機器人或人型機器人的軟體業拉高研發的動能?國務部長、劉主委你們覺得廠商的建議合理嗎?國際趨勢是否將軟體研發的經費也納入稅務優惠的範圍?\n報告委員這個早上的這個吃軟不吃硬這個它沒有達到我們的標準它沒有達到標準不是我們沒有我們的產創條例是有的不過您的這個指導我在想說我們可以在為了將來的這整個IC業的這個設計業的發展\n我們可以再來討論一下那個條件放寬一下其實就怕搞錯所以我後面直接就附了第12條真的是有一點吃硬不吃軟但沒有關係我們都一起來評估目前這個競爭很激烈希望請經濟部和國發會共同研議一個月內能不能提供本席的書面報告關於這個部分\n報告委員可以好謝謝謝謝國發會在今天的報告當中也提到定標AI國際頂尖人才開展全球劣才計劃昨天這個院長我早上質詢完說美國白宮這個每一個部會都要有AI人才下午院長就說部部有AI\n那我想我們的就業金卡還有人才AI人才不足我們希望能夠往外部往內就是從外部往內來往羅那我們一直在外流我們希望可以有入超所以半導體AI的產業眼睛快速人才的需求迫在眉睫現在就業金卡顯然不足能不能請教國發會留主委除了就業金卡以外我們能否研議新增條件較為彈性的AI就業銀卡\n擴大對全球攬AI人才的機制\n跟委員報告我們目前是因為現在是人才戰爭那它不僅僅是AI數位人才也很缺所以我們的公司所以呢我們現在是要準備正在我們現在找了6個國家做比較我們準備全面把它放寬太好了聽了太感動了不是只有AI因為各個地方的人才我們都需要吸引進來軟硬兼施好不好然後呢這個AI的產業因為既然都已經AI內閣我覺得稍微重視一下也不為過啦最後針對能源議題郭部長\n本席知道您這段時間內也許內心有一定的掙扎、煎熬或評估我昨天本來要問你但時間有點衝觸今天有沒有更新說法因為過去這個我想這都不是大家的本意因為科學、事實、理性就擺在眼前那我想在此能不能爭取主席給我一點時間那我給郭部長一點時間能不能表達一下您現在對於核電廠演藝的看法\n核電廠我的看法都沒有改變以現在的法規定我沒有辦法討論除去這個法以外就核電的部分我想它還是沒有辦法滿足綠電的需求\n那如果說就其他的這個討論我想這個我們要討論這個核酸的核酸或者核二這些問題都不是在我們可以討論的範圍之內所以這一點我們會關注這個新的核能新的核電的這個發展因為美國我想美國日本這些先進國家他們也都在關注這些議題我們當然也是關注這個議題但是以目前來講\n我們現在的畢竟還是核廢料是非常大的處理的問題那這個安全上面我們確實目前是沒有辦法那而且運作了40年它必須要下來下來以後再重新來檢討檢討它確實沒有問題了我們才來考慮現在這個都不是在議題裡面\n非常抱歉謝謝部長您的回應我覺得還是相對客觀那我們也會持續的來交流核電的研議其實除了法規的修正我們希望行政院可以提出之外研議其實也是需要時間需要機組的整修這些其實是可以評估的\n而不是說我們有委員在這邊質詢結果就說目前為止有電那這樣以後我們只要燈還亮著我們是不是就不用質詢核電的議題其實不是這樣所以能源政策非常務實客觀那您昨天院長也有提到這個基本法有這個限制什麼時候突然我們的院長又對我們的這個法令對我們大院這個出台的法案又這麼的尊重\n我今天才從剛剛才從程序委員會用沖的沖過來我們就在處理複議案我們很尊重他的複議案但是我們立出來的法令結果變成這樣所以我想能源政策很科學客觀希望半導體和AI產業的未來提高了能源需求能不能請經濟部具體提出近5年因為半導體行業可能還會倍數增長我們講的是年增3%很可能都還是低估能不能提出近5年具備可行性的電力規劃讓產業\n安心。」\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.329 --> 00:18.562\n盧君委員請做詢答好謝謝主席大家都辛苦了有請經濟部部長、國發會主委、國科會林法政副主委備詢好我們請以上三位\n\n00:25.051 --> 00:45.340\n謝謝也都辛苦了昨天本席在總質詢的時候有提到AI人型機器人的議題院長說政府都有在做那今天剛好經濟部、國發會、國科會都在這裡想請教您三個部會誰在主導國家的AI人型機器人Humanoid的政策三個部會是不是都有相關的計畫\n\n00:49.086 --> 01:07.481\n我看到有人在這個很誠實的搖頭我覺得這是很好的不然的話早上說A下午變成B也不好有關計劃的話我想還是給各位一點時間去搜羅一下也許有可能比較小規模怎麼樣能不能在今天下班前將資料提供給本席\n\n01:08.837 --> 01:29.653\n就有的話就提供沒有的話我們就知道沒有也沒有關係那機器人裡頭也很多軟體包括像是對話因為你要跟機器人講話眼睛機器人的眼睛要能夠看得懂這個世界同時也可能有新的IC需要被設計所以今天有媒體報導指出產業創新條例第十之二條的租稅抵減\n\n01:30.413 --> 01:46.166\n吃硬不吃軟優惠硬體生產廠獨露IC設計業過去本席在質詢AI和晶片產業創新的議題的時候一直都在講四個字軟硬兼施隨著全球IC設計的產業競爭激烈\n\n01:47.887 --> 02:10.332\n同時生成式AI也可能導入到IC設計的行業裡頭我們有沒有可能由政府單位在租稅優惠上擴大範圍來幫助台廠的IC設計業甚至更多的AI或機器人或人型機器人的軟體業拉高研發的動能?國務部長、劉主委你們覺得廠商的建議合理嗎?國際趨勢是否將軟體研發的經費也納入稅務優惠的範圍?\n\n02:15.253 --> 02:34.225\n報告委員這個早上的這個吃軟不吃硬這個它沒有達到我們的標準它沒有達到標準不是我們沒有我們的產創條例是有的不過您的這個指導我在想說我們可以在為了將來的這整個IC業的這個設計業的發展\n\n02:38.368 --> 02:57.962\n我們可以再來討論一下那個條件放寬一下其實就怕搞錯所以我後面直接就附了第12條真的是有一點吃硬不吃軟但沒有關係我們都一起來評估目前這個競爭很激烈希望請經濟部和國發會共同研議一個月內能不能提供本席的書面報告關於這個部分\n\n03:00.422 --> 03:18.732\n報告委員可以好謝謝謝謝國發會在今天的報告當中也提到定標AI國際頂尖人才開展全球劣才計劃昨天這個院長我早上質詢完說美國白宮這個每一個部會都要有AI人才下午院長就說部部有AI\n\n03:19.733 --> 03:43.660\n那我想我們的就業金卡還有人才AI人才不足我們希望能夠往外部往內就是從外部往內來往羅那我們一直在外流我們希望可以有入超所以半導體AI的產業眼睛快速人才的需求迫在眉睫現在就業金卡顯然不足能不能請教國發會留主委除了就業金卡以外我們能否研議新增條件較為彈性的AI就業銀卡\n\n03:46.942 --> 03:50.288\n擴大對全球攬AI人才的機制\n\n03:52.059 --> 04:19.081\n跟委員報告我們目前是因為現在是人才戰爭那它不僅僅是AI數位人才也很缺所以我們的公司所以呢我們現在是要準備正在我們現在找了6個國家做比較我們準備全面把它放寬太好了聽了太感動了不是只有AI因為各個地方的人才我們都需要吸引進來軟硬兼施好不好然後呢這個AI的產業因為既然都已經AI內閣我覺得稍微重視一下也不為過啦最後針對能源議題郭部長\n\n04:20.962 --> 04:47.328\n本席知道您這段時間內也許內心有一定的掙扎、煎熬或評估我昨天本來要問你但時間有點衝觸今天有沒有更新說法因為過去這個我想這都不是大家的本意因為科學、事實、理性就擺在眼前那我想在此能不能爭取主席給我一點時間那我給郭部長一點時間能不能表達一下您現在對於核電廠演藝的看法\n\n04:48.697 --> 05:02.546\n核電廠我的看法都沒有改變以現在的法規定我沒有辦法討論除去這個法以外就核電的部分我想它還是沒有辦法滿足綠電的需求\n\n05:05.868 --> 05:33.011\n那如果說就其他的這個討論我想這個我們要討論這個核酸的核酸或者核二這些問題都不是在我們可以討論的範圍之內所以這一點我們會關注這個新的核能新的核電的這個發展因為美國我想美國日本這些先進國家他們也都在關注這些議題我們當然也是關注這個議題但是以目前來講\n\n05:34.252 --> 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