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00:01:59,340\n整個家庭教育這個就代溝越加的嚴重所以這是一個整體的啦這整體所以呢我在提的這個壯世代裡面特別提到是高齡化與少子化的雙解方其實這事情是議題之兩面\n\n7\n00:02:01,582 --> 00:02:17,845\n我們不可能去放棄到另外三分之一的越來越多的高齡化的這一群人讓他跟社會脫節然後去致力解決另外三分之一的人是不可能的所以呢你為什麼會成出不窮的困境\n\n8\n00:02:19,106 --> 00:02:46,379\n永無止境的惡性循環越來越嚴重部長也知道上次在5月31日行政院長總質詢的時候我有提出壯世代的質詢部長也有上台備詢那一次院長有答應成立行政院的壯世代專案小組\n\n9\n00:02:47,920 --> 00:03:04,701\n所以當然在這裡面教育部也納在這個小組裡面所以這個應該是願你肯定要推動的政策所以這個那我也看到這個部長在接受媒體採訪的時候有一段話\n\n10\n00:03:07,062 --> 00:03:29,314\n你說大家都在招18歲的學生那希望能夠推動讓30歲以上的人口能更自由的進出高等教育進行終身教育我想這是你的理念就是我們過去就像大學就是18歲在念的那沒有看到這麼多的空間其他的好像置之不管\n\n11\n00:03:30,114 --> 00:03:37,905\n所以部長有這樣的理念所以我也希望寄望於你啦啟動第三人生大學是你的使命\n\n12\n00:03:39,537 --> 00:04:07,317\n那也很感謝這個其實這四個月來我一直纏著教育部這一個對第三人生大學的推動那也有給我一個正式的回函那對於這份回函我是給予肯定可以看得出教育部是有用心的不是敷衍一下的是有在進行但是我現在還是要繼續的把這件事情落實\n\n13\n00:04:10,278 --> 00:04:36,145\n希望鄭部長延續之前的承諾然後繼續來推動第三人生大學因為我相信你剛上來這個太多的事物要理解的不過我也請這個部長對這個議題重中之重這個議題會解決到教育部太多的問題所以希望而且是有800萬的壯士代因應期待對部長你的期待\n\n14\n00:04:38,646 --> 00:04:59,024\n在這份回覆當中教育部提出第三人生大學有三個階段第一個就短期的是短期是委託專業團隊進行第三人生大學核心課程模組的研發那中期開始規劃第三人生大學的試辦計畫\n\n15\n00:05:00,845 --> 00:05:20,658\n那長期呢可以第三人生大學與學位的銜接那有提出一個短中期的計畫那但是在這裡我沒有看到時程跟這個如何落實可以看出來理念上是有納入這個部裡的規劃所以呢\n\n16\n00:05:26,685 --> 00:05:50,123\n我要跟這個給這個部長部裡面提供一些建議短期規劃當中主要在核心課程的模組研發那在這裡呢我要特別提醒教育部千萬要了解壯世代的概念那不要侷限在勒領銀髮的思維因為\n\n17\n00:05:53,624 --> 00:06:12,978\n所以要請相關的同仁這個狀態的相關的文章已經非常多了成千上萬的在網路上都有務必要去研讀要去了解如果不夠的話請跟我接洽好不好我非常樂意去上課\n\n18\n00:06:15,668 --> 00:06:41,697\n現在很多的醫學都在證明老人不是沒有用的像這個華盛頓的醫學裡面他研究說首領的大腦左右半球的互動變得更和諧他的創意跟智能持續在躍進創作力可能比年輕人更強通常會覺得年紀大沒有創意但是這裡說創作力可能更強\n\n19\n00:06:43,258 --> 00:06:57,847\n第二點是首領大腦雖然不如年輕的時候快但是靈活性會提升而且能夠做出正確的決定而且比較少受到負面情緒的影響人類的智力活動高峰出現在60到80歲之間那我覺得\n\n20\n00:07:01,912 --> 00:07:14,482\n我們通常我就要翻轉這個觀念就覺得很多人包括自己就覺得60歲老沒好所以這個教育部要教育他們你很棒要給他加油\n\n21\n00:07:17,623 --> 00:07:34,185\n首先就是這個要翻轉這個啦我看到現在真的很多的都是引法族思維要把它翻轉到壯世代的思維那完全不一樣這兩個是完全不同的設定那這教育部非常重要的教育工作\n\n22\n00:07:35,466 --> 00:07:58,663\n其實他們人生追求不一樣,過去的人就搶人生那到了第三人生,第三人生在追求什麼首先要建立他的哲學基礎我們人類的知識只有到第二人生而已第三人生是一片空白那教育在這方面的研究在追求自我實現那有關這個我想教育部的專家非常多要來致力追求這個\n\n23\n00:08:01,534 --> 00:08:16,210\n首先在做這個之前不要憑空想像要針對壯世代的需求來做調查其實我們在民間已經也在進行這個工作很多了我有提出一個80項需求大調查\n\n24\n00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:41,139\n這目前在進行中當然我們民間的力量很有限像教育部如果有的話可以啦你們也要更專注的研究以後瞭解他們不然你憑空想像都是因法族的需求所以這一個的調查我在進行這個像工商司法提出來它是可以捲起千堆血它不是我們的負擔跟依賴\n\n25\n00:08:43,377 --> 00:09:07,805\n第二個中間的中段當中就是事辦事辦當中目前的回覆裡面有提出社區大學、樂嶺大學、空中大學還有面臨轉型挑戰的大專院校優先徵詢我覺得這個一定要跳脫這種樂嶺大學、社區大學這種概念不是把他們的課程改良一下就好了因為它是全然不同的\n\n26\n00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:29,822\n所以我倒是會覺得這些面臨轉型的這些大學不要輔導待退而能夠積極的轉型他來做這個第三人生大學給他一條生路那像現在也可以看得出來因為少子化目前已經用12所那預計8年之內會再導致10所大學那不要只是輔導待退\n\n27\n00:09:31,423 --> 00:09:53,997\n這不是把他輔導這個積極的轉型因為其實這不是他的錯不是他的學校有問題、設備有問題而是因為少子化照不到學生嘛那開放第三人生大學有300萬人要報名啊你為什麼這可以救他們啊為什麼不積極的所以這不能拖延積極的同時解決給壯世代的希望同時解決這些高校的問題\n\n28\n00:09:56,158 --> 00:10:15,571\n長程的規劃就是跟這個學位的銜接但是這個不要變成長期我希望能夠更加快而且這個也不是那些被淘汰的如果那個未來的頂端的高級大學的這些優秀的大學也都應該要去朝向這一方面的開放\n\n29\n00:10:19,266 --> 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