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00:01:43,636\n目前我們教育部掌握到有關涉毒的學生人數除了一部分是由警方查獲的以外有另外一部分是經由學校特定學生提報做尿塞經過檢驗之後發現是陽性的而列入村會輔導的個案那有少部分的學生是因為自己感到困擾主動向師長求助我們列入輔導的個案\n\n6\n00:01:45,374 --> 00:02:06,300\n現在看起來好像都是學生有覺察或是我們發現學生有異狀然後我們邀請他來做嘛那我想要知道就是說我們如何去判斷學生有異狀這件事情因為我看到我們的報告裡面都一直有想說我們有掌握這些高風險的我們是有些篩選機制讓學老師們有意識嗎或是讓同學有意識我們做這塊的宣導是嗎\n\n7\n00:02:07,810 --> 00:02:36,360\n先說明如果學生有涉毒的情況可能會出現精神狀態不佳比如說倦怠或者情緒高漲這樣的異常的狀況或者是出現異常的比如說出手突然變得很闊綽之類的這些異常的狀況都很有可能是學校會把它提報為特定學生那另外就是有一部分的學生可能是中離中錯或者休學之後返校復學這些個案我們也都會提報為特定學生進行尿塞\n\n8\n00:02:37,079 --> 00:02:41,400\n如何有效防制毒品入侵校園及減少霸凌案件?\n\n9\n00:02:56,485 --> 00:03:12,175\n接下來我們就直接跳到第二個問題就是新型態的毒品其實是越來越多元那這個像這個喵喵三年內奪去了205命那我想要知道說我們現在做的這些尿酸尿檢是新型態的毒品都能夠掌握得到嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:13,203 --> 00:03:30,808\n我們目前查獲的個案當中還包括尿塞查獲個案統計前五大當中像新型毒品是混合型的或者彩虹菸這個其實都在前五排名之內所以其實對這樣新型態的部分我們在查獲的個案是有發現的而且比例不低\n\n11\n00:03:33,388 --> 00:03:59,134\n這部分我肯定教育部的努力再來我有一個問題我們說人數都在下降可是我發現一個數字很奇怪國小現在才到四月以前一整年大概二到四案可是現在一到四月才四個月已經三案那是我如果這樣去推算我們今年的人數可能就會超過過去的新高那到底發生了什麼事情在國小端我們的掌握是什麼\n\n12\n00:04:00,469 --> 00:04:03,772\n我們現在在國小的作為是什麼?因為這個數字這樣看起來是非常不樂觀欸\n\n13\n00:04:23,933 --> 00:04:46,810\n我們就是跟委員報告我們現在國小階段最主要的採訪是入班宣導每一個班都要有村會職工或者輔導老師進去做宣導會教小朋友辨識奶茶包、咖啡包甚至郵票甚至軟糖都有可能是所以不要吃任何陌生人提供給他或者是不是我們所熟悉的食品東西否則就有可能誤食\n\n14\n00:04:48,066 --> 00:04:51,308\n我們現在在國小跟國中的部分其實入班宣導的部分比例都有達到百分之百\n\n15\n00:05:09,657 --> 00:05:27,215\n我們為了確定成效其實我們有做學生的抽樣的問卷調查瞭解學生是不是有接獲毒品造成的危害等等的資訊那這些資訊是不是可以匯控提供給我們好我們每年都有定期調查其實那個百分比都有在提高以目前最近一次的調查來講大概有達到95%還有5%的學生是沒有收到這樣的訊息的\n\n16\n00:05:31,938 --> 00:05:51,905\n接下來每一季如果有做這個小學的濫用統計的話都提到我辦公室我想要知道這個趨勢有沒有因為我們有所作為而有下降那再來就是說因為其實大多數使用的都在同學家大八成的小朋友拿到毒品都是透過朋友我們應該如何介入這些用毒青少年的同儕網路\n\n17\n00:05:53,605 --> 00:06:13,459\n我先講這個就是說我們現在雖然有做陸班選導但我只是在思考一件事情那我就提供給教育部來做參考我們是不是可以建立一個匿名通報的機制因為其實我知道小朋友彼此都會說欸我知道哪一班有這件事情那我們是不是有個這樣的機制可以來做使用第二個再來就是說因為是朋友可是我們現在所\n\n18\n00:06:14,159 --> 00:06:40,249\n提供的這些宣導單章裡面我們都是跟他講勇於拒絕不要輕易嘗試可是朋友之間就會說啊你試一下啦沒關係啦這樣子的話術我們先提供這個話術根本沒有幫助他可以拒絕是不是可以找兒少代表一起來討論我們現在這些宣傳單章要怎麼樣才可以真正的貼近他們的環境讓他們可以真的遠離毒害這件事情可不可以做得到我們在兒少代表的部分來討論\n\n19\n00:06:43,607 --> 00:06:44,328\n我同意．我懂\n\n20\n00:07:02,028 --> 00:07:03,108\n我們過去在處理的時候比較沒有特別邀請耳哨代表來討論\n\n21\n00:07:20,394 --> 00:07:20,594\n教育部部長\n\n22\n00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:51,822\n舉舉辦多少場次?\n\n23\n00:07:53,377 --> 00:08:20,475\n跟委員現在手上沒有這個資訊好沒關係那會後提供給我齁因為其實這個跟如何第一個協助他不要進入這個毒害的領域第二個就是當他離開之後我們要怎麼樣子讓家庭可以協助他因為這是避免他再犯的齁所以再來這個施用毒品再犯防治統治的計畫我目前只有看到109年內有沒有更新的數據啊這個數據到底是誰可以提供給我\n\n24\n00:08:22,942 --> 00:08:36,813\n這個我們手上有你們手上有嗎是教育部那為什麼一直都沒有更新啊已經是2010109年到現在已經也4年了欸對跟文法抱歉我們來清查看我們手上都有這個數據\n\n25\n00:08:38,561 --> 00:08:41,162\n我們目前非在學的部分會由縣市政府的少府會會同社會局跟教育局共同來協助輔導\n\n26\n00:08:56,530 --> 00:09:09,518\n對,但是因為我現在看起來的那個因為6個月在通報跟6到12個月在通報的數字其實在非在學的部分都是在增加的啦所以這個是由教育部來提供給我相關的數據嘛那最後一題把握時間\n\n27\n00:09:15,069 --> 00:09:29,489\n我們現在在校安通報的霸凌數據上面我們是12.3%可是因為根據聯合國全世界校園霸凌的調查報告其實全世界是30.3%那不管是不是除了聯合國之外\n\n28\n00:09:30,891 --> 00:09:54,962\n我們在2019年台灣傳播調查資料庫的調查也有指出國小生、國中生、高中生被霸凌的比率分別是41.46%、31.97%、15.16%包含或是最近額幅每一年都會做這個數字數字都遠高於我們教育部提供的數字我想知道這個落差是什麼是我們沒有\n\n29\n00:09:56,562 --> 00:10:22,552\n我不曉得部長了不了解啦就是說因為我知道以前在開這個兒少事故委員會的時候兒少代表就說啦我們在做這些校園暴霸凌的這些問卷調查由後往前收或是都收到老師那邊沒有人敢真實的填寫所以這是一個很大的問題那他們也一直不停的提出來是不是可以透過網路的方式來做調查他們才能夠真實的說出來那這個部分我們到底是不是可以去做什麼樣子的改善讓真實的數據可以被呈現呢\n\n30\n00:10:24,448 --> 00:10:52,735\n跟委員說明我想我們的比例只有12.3跟其他國家不一樣很可能是計算的基礎不一樣因為我們現在目前的這個基礎是用通報的當作分母以查證確認成立的案件當分子那其他的這個部分可能並不是他可能是透過類似像問卷調查然後從抽樣當中去發現然後另外就是認定的期程是有關係的像我們的校園生物卷是以上個學期發生的事情以半年內是不是有發生的感受\n\n31\n00:10:52,995 --> 00:10:56,297\n其實我們是有校園霸凌現況調查在您的112年的預算書有這些計畫但是我完全找不到這個計畫的內容\n\n32\n00:11:16,670 --> 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我們每年都有定期調查其實那個百分比都有在提高以目前最近一次的調查來講大概有達到95%還有5%的學生是沒有收到這樣的訊息的\n331938\t351905\t接下來每一季如果有做這個小學的濫用統計的話都提到我辦公室我想要知道這個趨勢有沒有因為我們有所作為而有下降那再來就是說因為其實大多數使用的都在同學家大八成的小朋友拿到毒品都是透過朋友我們應該如何介入這些用毒青少年的同儕網路\n353605\t373459\t我先講這個就是說我們現在雖然有做陸班選導但我只是在思考一件事情那我就提供給教育部來做參考我們是不是可以建立一個匿名通報的機制因為其實我知道小朋友彼此都會說欸我知道哪一班有這件事情那我們是不是有個這樣的機制可以來做使用第二個再來就是說因為是朋友可是我們現在所\n374159\t400249\t提供的這些宣導單章裡面我們都是跟他講勇於拒絕不要輕易嘗試可是朋友之間就會說啊你試一下啦沒關係啦這樣子的話術我們先提供這個話術根本沒有幫助他可以拒絕是不是可以找兒少代表一起來討論我們現在這些宣傳單章要怎麼樣才可以真正的貼近他們的環境讓他們可以真的遠離毒害這件事情可不可以做得到我們在兒少代表的部分來討論\n403607\t404328\t我同意．我懂\n422028\t423108\t我們過去在處理的時候比較沒有特別邀請耳哨代表來討論\n440394\t440594\t教育部部長\n471540\t471822\t舉舉辦多少場次?\n473377\t500475\t跟委員現在手上沒有這個資訊好沒關係那會後提供給我齁因為其實這個跟如何第一個協助他不要進入這個毒害的領域第二個就是當他離開之後我們要怎麼樣子讓家庭可以協助他因為這是避免他再犯的齁所以再來這個施用毒品再犯防治統治的計畫我目前只有看到109年內有沒有更新的數據啊這個數據到底是誰可以提供給我\n502942\t516813\t這個我們手上有你們手上有嗎 是教育部那為什麼一直都沒有更新啊已經是2010 109年到現在已經也4年了欸對 跟文法 抱歉我們來清查看我們手上都有這個數據\n518561\t521162\t我們目前非在學的部分會由縣市政府的少府會會同社會局跟教育局共同來協助輔導\n536530\t549518\t對,但是因為我現在看起來的那個因為6個月在通報跟6到12個月在通報的數字其實在非在學的部分都是在增加的啦所以這個是由教育部來提供給我相關的數據嘛那最後一題把握時間\n555069\t569489\t我們現在在校安通報的霸凌數據上面我們是12.3%可是因為根據聯合國全世界校園霸凌的調查報告其實全世界是30.3%那不管是不是除了聯合國之外\n570891\t594962\t我們在2019年台灣傳播調查資料庫的調查也有指出國小生、國中生、高中生被霸凌的比率分別是41.46%、31.97%、15.16%包含或是最近額幅每一年都會做這個數字數字都遠高於我們教育部提供的數字我想知道這個落差是什麼是我們沒有\n596562\t622552\t我不曉得部長了不了解啦就是說因為我知道以前在開這個兒少事故委員會的時候兒少代表就說啦我們在做這些校園暴霸凌的這些問卷調查由後往前收或是都收到老師那邊沒有人敢真實的填寫所以這是一個很大的問題那他們也一直不停的提出來是不是可以透過網路的方式來做調查他們才能夠真實的說出來那這個部分我們到底是不是可以去做什麼樣子的改善讓真實的數據可以被呈現呢\n624448\t652735\t跟委員說明我想我們的比例只有12.3跟其他國家不一樣很可能是計算的基礎不一樣因為我們現在目前的這個基礎是用通報的當作分母以查證確認成立的案件當分子那其他的這個部分可能並不是他可能是透過類似像問卷調查然後從抽樣當中去發現然後另外就是認定的期程是有關係的像我們的校園生物卷是以上個學期發生的事情以半年內是不是有發生的感受\n652995\t656297\t其實我們是有校園霸凌現況調查在您的112年的預算書有這些計畫但是我完全找不到這個計畫的內容\n676670\t676810\t獲得獎金\n","txt":"有請部長跟警政署好部長跟警政署謝謝\n早安,就是說今天我想要來針對於這個青少年的部分來跟部長跟大家來做一個討論就是說我們現在雖然說從很多的數字不管從警政署或是校安通報的數字我們好像那個青少年使用的毒品的人口都在下降但是我其實也有看到一個107年食藥署的全國物質使用調查\n他說呢第一個我們現在使用的形態非常多元所以這個是一個問題第二個問題是大多數使用的地方都在同學或朋友家裡也就是說\n他不是消音通報會統計到的校園他也不是青春專會掃蕩到的KTV、網咖、夜店都不是那這個地方家內使用的數字我們現在是有掌握的嗎我想要了解在這個部分因為我們這樣子要怎麼去說我們使用的人口是下降的因為搞不好他是不是在家裡我們根本都沒有看到都沒有捕獲到所以我想要知道我們怎麼去掌握這些家內使用的狀態\n目前我們教育部掌握到有關涉毒的學生人數除了一部分是由警方查獲的以外有另外一部分是經由學校特定學生提報做尿塞經過檢驗之後發現是陽性的而列入村會輔導的個案那有少部分的學生是因為自己感到困擾主動向師長求助我們列入輔導的個案\n現在看起來好像都是學生有覺察或是我們發現學生有異狀然後我們邀請他來做嘛那我想要知道就是說我們如何去判斷學生有異狀這件事情因為我看到我們的報告裡面都一直有想說我們有掌握這些高風險的我們是有些篩選機制讓學老師們有意識嗎或是讓同學有意識我們做這塊的宣導是嗎\n先說明如果學生有涉毒的情況可能會出現精神狀態不佳比如說倦怠或者情緒高漲這樣的異常的狀況或者是出現異常的比如說出手突然變得很闊綽之類的這些異常的狀況都很有可能是學校會把它提報為特定學生那另外就是有一部分的學生可能是中離中錯或者休學之後返校復學這些個案我們也都會提報為特定學生進行尿塞\n如何有效防制毒品入侵校園及減少霸凌案件?\n接下來我們就直接跳到第二個問題就是新型態的毒品其實是越來越多元那這個像這個喵喵三年內奪去了205命那我想要知道說我們現在做的這些尿酸尿檢是新型態的毒品都能夠掌握得到嗎?\n我們目前查獲的個案當中還包括尿塞查獲個案統計前五大當中像新型毒品是混合型的或者彩虹菸這個其實都在前五排名之內所以其實對這樣新型態的部分我們在查獲的個案是有發現的而且比例不低\n這部分我肯定教育部的努力再來我有一個問題我們說人數都在下降可是我發現一個數字很奇怪國小現在才到四月以前一整年大概二到四案可是現在一到四月才四個月已經三案那是我如果這樣去推算我們今年的人數可能就會超過過去的新高那到底發生了什麼事情在國小端我們的掌握是什麼\n我們現在在國小的作為是什麼?因為這個數字這樣看起來是非常不樂觀欸\n我們就是跟委員報告我們現在國小階段最主要的採訪是入班宣導每一個班都要有村會職工或者輔導老師進去做宣導會教小朋友辨識奶茶包、咖啡包甚至郵票甚至軟糖都有可能是所以不要吃任何陌生人提供給他或者是不是我們所熟悉的食品東西否則就有可能誤食\n我們現在在國小跟國中的部分其實入班宣導的部分比例都有達到百分之百\n我們為了確定成效其實我們有做學生的抽樣的問卷調查瞭解學生是不是有接獲毒品造成的危害等等的資訊那這些資訊是不是可以匯控提供給我們好 我們每年都有定期調查其實那個百分比都有在提高以目前最近一次的調查來講大概有達到95%還有5%的學生是沒有收到這樣的訊息的\n接下來每一季如果有做這個小學的濫用統計的話都提到我辦公室我想要知道這個趨勢有沒有因為我們有所作為而有下降那再來就是說因為其實大多數使用的都在同學家大八成的小朋友拿到毒品都是透過朋友我們應該如何介入這些用毒青少年的同儕網路\n我先講這個就是說我們現在雖然有做陸班選導但我只是在思考一件事情那我就提供給教育部來做參考我們是不是可以建立一個匿名通報的機制因為其實我知道小朋友彼此都會說欸我知道哪一班有這件事情那我們是不是有個這樣的機制可以來做使用第二個再來就是說因為是朋友可是我們現在所\n提供的這些宣導單章裡面我們都是跟他講勇於拒絕不要輕易嘗試可是朋友之間就會說啊你試一下啦沒關係啦這樣子的話術我們先提供這個話術根本沒有幫助他可以拒絕是不是可以找兒少代表一起來討論我們現在這些宣傳單章要怎麼樣才可以真正的貼近他們的環境讓他們可以真的遠離毒害這件事情可不可以做得到我們在兒少代表的部分來討論\n我同意．我懂\n我們過去在處理的時候比較沒有特別邀請耳哨代表來討論\n教育部部長\n舉舉辦多少場次?\n跟委員現在手上沒有這個資訊好沒關係那會後提供給我齁因為其實這個跟如何第一個協助他不要進入這個毒害的領域第二個就是當他離開之後我們要怎麼樣子讓家庭可以協助他因為這是避免他再犯的齁所以再來這個施用毒品再犯防治統治的計畫我目前只有看到109年內有沒有更新的數據啊這個數據到底是誰可以提供給我\n這個我們手上有你們手上有嗎 是教育部那為什麼一直都沒有更新啊已經是2010 109年到現在已經也4年了欸對 跟文法 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06:40.249\n提供的這些宣導單章裡面我們都是跟他講勇於拒絕不要輕易嘗試可是朋友之間就會說啊你試一下啦沒關係啦這樣子的話術我們先提供這個話術根本沒有幫助他可以拒絕是不是可以找兒少代表一起來討論我們現在這些宣傳單章要怎麼樣才可以真正的貼近他們的環境讓他們可以真的遠離毒害這件事情可不可以做得到我們在兒少代表的部分來討論\n\n06:43.607 --> 06:44.328\n我同意．我懂\n\n07:02.028 --> 07:03.108\n我們過去在處理的時候比較沒有特別邀請耳哨代表來討論\n\n07:20.394 --> 07:20.594\n教育部部長\n\n07:51.540 --> 07:51.822\n舉舉辦多少場次?\n\n07:53.377 --> 08:20.475\n跟委員現在手上沒有這個資訊好沒關係那會後提供給我齁因為其實這個跟如何第一個協助他不要進入這個毒害的領域第二個就是當他離開之後我們要怎麼樣子讓家庭可以協助他因為這是避免他再犯的齁所以再來這個施用毒品再犯防治統治的計畫我目前只有看到109年內有沒有更新的數據啊這個數據到底是誰可以提供給我\n\n08:22.942 --> 08:36.813\n這個我們手上有你們手上有嗎是教育部那為什麼一直都沒有更新啊已經是2010109年到現在已經也4年了欸對跟文法抱歉我們來清查看我們手上都有這個數據\n\n08:38.561 --> 08:41.162\n我們目前非在學的部分會由縣市政府的少府會會同社會局跟教育局共同來協助輔導\n\n08:56.530 --> 09:09.518\n對,但是因為我現在看起來的那個因為6個月在通報跟6到12個月在通報的數字其實在非在學的部分都是在增加的啦所以這個是由教育部來提供給我相關的數據嘛那最後一題把握時間\n\n09:15.069 --> 09:29.489\n我們現在在校安通報的霸凌數據上面我們是12.3%可是因為根據聯合國全世界校園霸凌的調查報告其實全世界是30.3%那不管是不是除了聯合國之外\n\n09:30.891 --> 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