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00:01:24,320\n有提到輔導就學就業就醫就養,其實跟今天這個主題有點關係,所以一般照顧等功的任務現在也都還在時程上。接下來我們就問跟今天這個比較有關的,因為就剛好牽涉到今天這個題目。\n\n6\n00:01:30,443 --> 00:01:55,089\n當然在行政院人事行政總署的報告書當時就有提到他們是用關接的身份發給忠孝一下我覺得在場的各位都已經非常的熟悉了這一個目前我們看到這一次的退輔會的報告有提到說大概需要八千萬但教育部這邊可以做個三千萬所以大概是支出五千萬我想確定一下這個部分是正確的嗎就預算支出的部分是正確的\n\n7\n00:01:56,790 --> 00:02:14,611\n現在的問題就在於說我覺得以我的立場來講我們對於要對於做這些子女相關就學的一些補助說真的這個我們當然本來都是樂見其成因為對這個退輔會來講本來就是應該多多照顧榮民但是預算這件事情畢竟是行政議題\n\n8\n00:02:15,592 --> 00:02:38,940\n就是說我們今天要在這邊增加預算那其他的地方到底要不要等同增加預算如果別人就說那我們也一樣增加類似的預算的時候那整個行政院的這一個預算會提高所以這當然是要考量的事情所以這邊我們還是一樣我覺得看到報告裡面還是要尊重這一個主計還是要尊重整個行政院的看法但對於個別的這一個事件我們當然本來是競表同意但現在問題就出在這裡就是說\n\n9\n00:02:41,101 --> 00:02:55,971\n因為我們今天是討論一個這個二十七條之四嘛他是一個法律案但因為這個法律案直接就等於是增加了預算那這跟我們之前在這一的花東三法其實是一模一樣的意思嘛就是花東三法那時候就直接說我可能針對這一條鐵路我要花幾億\n\n10\n00:02:58,172 --> 00:03:24,417\n那行政院本來就提出預算的權利所以對於行政院對於退輔會這邊認為預算要多少要怎麼增列我們這邊當然就是如果是這邊提出來我們當然是予以支持但如果是立法院自己去提一個案子增加預算那就已經在侵害了行政院提出預算的權利那這樣行政院可以廢掉算了嗎我們只要留著立法院就好了我們就說今天我們認為哪裡要再補助兩千萬這邊要再補助三千萬那這樣這個國家的財政就不用玩了\n\n11\n00:03:28,018 --> 00:03:35,003\n所以在這邊我想確認一下就是在於說目前院裡面這邊的溝通對於這個預算有什麼樣的想法\n\n12\n00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:02,422\n最後一個就是上次剛好在這個問的時候有提到這個黃埔的事情就是去中國的事情\n\n13\n00:04:17,535 --> 00:04:42,806\n我看到新聞有提到就是說第一個他們去這邊參加黃埔可以去有中國的門號安裝微信的APP這其實會有金流的問題這有微信支付的問題然後再來甚至可能要辦居住證所以就這一點而言目前退輔會的掌握是什麼那時候因為之前有提到在他們出發之前會跟他們講說哪些事情要做哪些事情不能做等等之類的但是\n\n14\n00:04:43,506 --> 00:05:11,203\n這一次要做居住證或者中國門號的下載等等之類的看起來好像是新的所以不知道這方面退輔會當時在行前的時候有沒有顧慮到這一塊報委員我們針對要賦入的不管是將校我們都會跟他做一些說明尤其是有居住證的你的個資可能外洩因為你要登記所以這些都有個人的一些風險所以特別第一你就是要注意到自己的人身安全\n\n15\n00:05:11,943 --> 00:05:19,446\n因為這是一個新的方法就是說因為居住證這個以後它如果比如說它的編號的方式跟中國的是身份證是一樣的它其實就是在做內國法化這件事情它就要把台灣當成中國的一部分這對我們來講是非常嚴重的\n\n16\n00:05:39,213 --> 00:05:59,282\n所以今天去的人到底有哪些人有居住證這個在早期中國想做第一次的時候本來陸委會有說是不是要採登記但是因為後來沒有繼續做但所以在這邊退輔會到對這件事情的掌握如何有多少人拿到居住證這可能之後我會詢問先講這一點那第二點就是呢因為這一個前黃富新主委這個紀琳蓮這個\n\n17\n00:06:01,523 --> 00:06:22,458\n這是聯合報嗎?好像少了一個字應該是寄靈聯因為兩岸條例九之三這個部分是少將以上的人員去那邊不能做有妨礙國家尊嚴的行為那這邊也是可能要請這個退輔會要對這個相關的宣導因為畢竟什麼叫做妨礙尊嚴的行為雖然第二項有規定但它有一個其他類似的行為這聽起來很寬廣\n\n18\n00:06:23,679 --> 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02:38.940\n就是說我們今天要在這邊增加預算那其他的地方到底要不要等同增加預算如果別人就說那我們也一樣增加類似的預算的時候那整個行政院的這一個預算會提高所以這當然是要考量的事情所以這邊我們還是一樣我覺得看到報告裡面還是要尊重這一個主計還是要尊重整個行政院的看法但對於個別的這一個事件我們當然本來是競表同意但現在問題就出在這裡就是說\n\n02:41.101 --> 02:55.971\n因為我們今天是討論一個這個二十七條之四嘛他是一個法律案但因為這個法律案直接就等於是增加了預算那這跟我們之前在這一的花東三法其實是一模一樣的意思嘛就是花東三法那時候就直接說我可能針對這一條鐵路我要花幾億\n\n02:58.172 --> 03:24.417\n那行政院本來就提出預算的權利所以對於行政院對於退輔會這邊認為預算要多少要怎麼增列我們這邊當然就是如果是這邊提出來我們當然是予以支持但如果是立法院自己去提一個案子增加預算那就已經在侵害了行政院提出預算的權利那這樣行政院可以廢掉算了嗎我們只要留著立法院就好了我們就說今天我們認為哪裡要再補助兩千萬這邊要再補助三千萬那這樣這個國家的財政就不用玩了\n\n03:28.018 --> 03:35.003\n所以在這邊我想確認一下就是在於說目前院裡面這邊的溝通對於這個預算有什麼樣的想法\n\n03:58.439 --> 04:02.422\n最後一個就是上次剛好在這個問的時候有提到這個黃埔的事情就是去中國的事情\n\n04:17.535 --> 04:42.806\n我看到新聞有提到就是說第一個他們去這邊參加黃埔可以去有中國的門號安裝微信的APP這其實會有金流的問題這有微信支付的問題然後再來甚至可能要辦居住證所以就這一點而言目前退輔會的掌握是什麼那時候因為之前有提到在他們出發之前會跟他們講說哪些事情要做哪些事情不能做等等之類的但是\n\n04:43.506 --> 05:11.203\n這一次要做居住證或者中國門號的下載等等之類的看起來好像是新的所以不知道這方面退輔會當時在行前的時候有沒有顧慮到這一塊報委員我們針對要賦入的不管是將校我們都會跟他做一些說明尤其是有居住證的你的個資可能外洩因為你要登記所以這些都有個人的一些風險所以特別第一你就是要注意到自己的人身安全\n\n05:11.943 --> 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