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00:04:23,693\n謝謝委員的一個提問。我想趁這個機會跟所有的社會大眾,特別是我們的農民說明。我們植物診療師的一個立法通過以後,在農民端,它其實是更能夠有效的幫助農民做精準用藥,甚至於可以節省他的用藥的費用。\n\n10\n00:04:26,118 --> 00:04:46,183\nbicy同時更重要他不會影響他現在購買農藥的任何的模式的改變他並不需要做要取得一些藥單才能夠去買藥所以他不需要取得這個診療師開的藥單才能去買農藥不需要是不需要的那第二個部分就是有些農藥行賣農藥也擔心說那我們現在販賣農藥未來是不是要有植物診療師的一個證照\n\n11\n00:04:53,145 --> 00:05:18,471\n這個也是錯誤的觀念因為我們販賣農藥有根據農藥的販賣的相關的管理辦法去取得它的證照它跟植物診療師的證照是不一樣的換句話說植物診療師他取得證照他不能直接販賣農藥他如果販賣農藥還是要根據農藥管理法裡面的相關的規範才能夠去販賣農藥所以對於這些販賣農藥的業者也完全沒有影響對農民也完全沒有影響\n\n12\n00:05:20,831 --> 00:05:42,703\n好,那再請教,那你比如說你們過去有一些林業啦、園藝啦這一些祭師,那他們在這些祭師的工作跟植物診療師的工作上面會不會有衝突?會不會對於我們原來過去的這些林業、農業的園藝、祭師造成他們就業上面的影響?這個我想也是這些祭師公會他們很擔心。\n\n13\n00:05:45,504 --> 00:06:01,942\n我們現在有農業領域上面有很多相關的技師包括原液技師還有樹木醫師有沒有這類的部分他原來的技師的證照去處理他專門的工作是百分之百沒有影響那植物診療師反而是可以\n\n14\n00:06:27,338 --> 00:06:56,162\n如果是這樣部長我再請教您一個問題我們常常需要比如說農損要去勘栽過去都是你們改良所跟其他的專家學者去勘栽嘛對不對未來這個工作會不會落在植物診療師的身上我想不會因為植物診療因為天災有天災勘栽的一個邏輯但是植物診療師對於相關的萬一有一些保險是針對病床外的保險的部分那植物診療師開的他的植物的\n\n15\n00:06:56,682 --> 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