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00:03:56,383\n委員會主任委員會主席\n\n13\n00:04:13,632 --> 00:04:17,534\n委員好我是就學就業處處長跟委員報告其實我們在花東地區剛有講過我們在花東地區其實在過去三年我們有開班開了六個班訓兒也有190個人那事實上我們還有個手段就是在地參訓在地就業我想我們不用走車勞頓跑到我這個執訓中心或到西岸來受訓我們過去這個三年也培訓了五百個人次用執訓補助的管道\n\n14\n00:04:42,443 --> 00:04:42,803\n二、審查本院委員翁曉玲等18人發言\n\n15\n00:05:03,010 --> 00:05:03,070\n臺北榮總副院長\n\n16\n00:05:38,372 --> 00:06:01,243\n根據本席了解,臺北榮總在花蓮有一個育理分院,他是在我們花蓮的南區,然後地處是非常的偏鄉,所以是花蓮南區其實是很規模的精神科的教學醫院,還有一般綜合的地區的醫院,但是因為那個地方人才招募的困難,所以因為花東地區長期的交通不方便,還有醫療人員的薪水不夠,所以相對的\n\n17\n00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:01,923\n二、審查\n\n18\n00:06:22,697 --> 00:06:22,897\n二、審查本院委員\n\n19\n00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:40,259\n二、審查本院委員\n\n20\n00:07:00,626 --> 00:07:24,620\n坐車還是搭著救護車到90公里以外的慈濟醫院去接受手術治療這樣病患在轉院等待的手術期間其實還面臨很大的痛苦而且藍區的家屬還要到北花蓮去照顧這些手術的病患其實是非常不方便的也是非常辛苦的所以北榮育理醫院是不是也是需要一個GS的一般外科醫師加入服務呢所以我覺得這些的話如果有改善的話應該可以造福更多花蓮藍區的榮民榮眷\n\n21\n00:07:30,043 --> 00:07:30,627\n一般他們的健康\n\n22\n00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,781\n所以6月14日之後是還有一個復健科醫師會過去支援對不對?\n\n23\n00:08:03,654 --> 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