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00:01:47,807\n所以這個部分部長你要抓住這個不確定是天災但是不積極是人禍所以這個部分我要提醒部長在這個部分可能還要加緊你從事務官起來當政務官這種態度去追根究柢引導他們恢復積極的態度這是我對你的期免另外\n\n6\n00:01:48,991 --> 00:02:05,386\n我就要跟這個司長來請教我們道交條例67條之一當然這個酒駕終生不能考照但是我看到我們現在開了這個後門這個部分\n\n7\n00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:36,555\n部長你的看法是什麼看法我們了解現在酒駕其實他也有他現在是有雖然是不得考照不過他現在有一個其實是加嚴去觀察就是有6年的觀察期的這樣的一個規定那我想這個部分是確保就是說酒駕如果萬一他就有一個臨時的駕照但是等個觀察期加長確認他沒有在違規的一個狀況那細節我是不是請\n\n8\n00:02:39,655 --> 00:02:59,786\n酒駕你們做這個決定啊做這個決定啊是已經13年前的事13年前酒駕是行政華華喔可是本宴修華之後知道全國裡面酒駕是非常嚴重的所以加重其刑有刑責喔\n\n9\n00:03:00,606 --> 00:03:29,253\n有刑責喔所以那兩的時段的考量情形是會不一樣所以市長這個部分是你在主導有沒有可能其他的部分去開放個人沒有意見但是酒駕是全國最痛恨的明明是酒駕要肇事又致死可是最後他有一定時間他就可以去考照這合理嗎\n\n10\n00:03:30,313 --> 00:03:52,352\n這個部分我跟委員報告一下可能這個最近就是部裡面修正道路交通安全規則加嚴有關於吊扣吊銷必須要領短效期的駕照那一些相關配套法律的修正而造成外界有些這個誤解但是剛剛委員提到一個重點就是說處罰條例67條之一那個是民國95年修的一個這個部分那當時是大法官司縣531號因為原來處罰條例\n\n11\n00:03:54,974 --> 00:03:55,394\n市長你看清楚他根本沒有講違憲\n\n12\n00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:30,601\n他根本要你們檢討這個就是什麼他最後一個重點就是這個吊銷駕駛人之恢復適應社會能力或改善具體事實他沒有講他沒有講危險喔市長所以啊你們就過度解讀啦沒關係那這個\n\n13\n00:04:32,563 --> 00:04:32,603\n酒駕造勢\n\n14\n00:04:50,015 --> 00:05:10,653\n至於至實不能考照這種東西要把它明定下去至於其他我真的沒有意見但是酒駕肇事至實這種東西是講十二不十二當然嚴重但是最起碼的話我們要嚴懲所以我要建議師長\n\n15\n00:05:11,854 --> 00:05:11,894\n主席\n\n16\n00:05:32,895 --> 00:05:34,996\n主席我請那個觀光署我們周署長來\n\n17\n00:06:10,387 --> 00:06:33,297\n委員好好局長你剛才的書面報告裡面講一句話我有感覺是有一點心酸啊也有一點難過你講的一句話就是觀光品牌飲客千萬來台欸這是押韻或者你想要做的國定\n\n18\n00:06:35,211 --> 00:07:02,824\n觀光品牌引客千萬來台這是在做文章還是想你以後要做我們也期待今年能夠達到一千萬的國際觀光客來台這是我們的目標我個人對於你從政過程當處事言者但是這個叫做口號我現在要跟你談的是屏東大鵬灣的管理問題\n\n19\n00:07:04,298 --> 00:07:23,625\n所以我也知道州署長全國有13個都要你來管理但是這些管理當中你署長沒有問題底下人有問題這是最慘的事我要跟你談的大鵬灣署長你知道有光雕表演嗎\n\n20\n00:07:27,975 --> 00:07:51,166\n另外一個大鵬灣為什麼這個光雕現在變成沒有意義了這個第一個給你做參考第二個每一次大鵬灣你們都做半雕禁止釣魚可是航道裡面漁網一大堆知不知道這個就是你們管理的問題\n\n21\n00:07:52,369 --> 00:08:05,581\n另外一個不能捕魚不能釣魚釣客一大堆你們也不管這個也沒有關係但是只要管理得當那其他OK另外一個比較嚴重的\n\n22\n00:08:08,447 --> 00:08:26,796\n我上次去考察已經跟你們講署長你也答應柯和島的修復現在進行到什麼程度是這個大鵬灣的柯和島確實他有歷史的你不要跟我講那麼多啦現在已經發包了然後工程什麼時候發包的來\n\n23\n00:08:27,416 --> 00:08:55,348\n我們在3月底的時候確實有一個部分還沒有完成你可以騙我不要騙部長喔沒有沒有沒有你可以騙我但是不能騙部長我們確定了是欸柏中你要聽一下欸我跟你說騙我沒關係不能騙你喔跟委員報告一下你也非常清楚就是每次颱風的時候柯和島都會受到影響我知道啦花苞的沒有啦已經發苞了而且絕標了已經發苞了喔對誰跟你講花苞啦\n\n24\n00:08:57,451 --> 00:09:04,790\n誰跟你講話包的我們景區發展組當然是督導管理處啦那管理處確實也我跟你講署長\n\n25\n00:09:06,243 --> 00:09:32,289\n我已經告訴你們市長你有13個風景區你是很忙碌的但是屬下不能騙你們不能騙你我希望你這個部分你查清楚花包的沒有我跟你講喔我跟你講喔大鵬灣我跟你講我對你們非常尊重我要問什麼我都還事先告訴你們所以我希望我不希望\n\n26\n00:09:33,149 --> 00:09:33,389\n主席\n\n27\n00:09:51,252 --> 00:09:51,452\n主席\n\n28\n00:10:13,644 --> 00:10:13,684\n李部長\n\n29\n00:10:31,960 --> 00:11:01,088\n我再度提醒你在這裡作證不要下一次我在追的時候你們每一個被我K到我不管喔因為我本來是很溫和的啦但是看到這樣我希望你們盡快提供給我好不好你們各單位有多少個那個監視站安全的監視站坡度的監視等等趕快提供給我不要在立法院答應我的事情來欺騙立法院這樣是滑是不容的\n\n30\n00:11:01,308 --> 00:11:01,529\n林國成委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1664\t22044\t請李部長請李部長還有我們林師長請林師長 林福山師長委員好好 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林福山師長委員好好 部長本席這會退回報告書的但是你這次我看起來啊\n李孟諺列席報告\n報告的是非常多你是少數我認為你是沒有抄襲的這點我可以跟你證明另外一個剛才我們召委在講部長的壽命也就是當部長的壽命只有兩年但是這裡面我要提供給你一個參考第一這個交通部長本來不確定性是高的\n第二所屬所有的人不積極的態度更嚴重\n所以這個部分部長你要抓住這個不確定是天災但是不積極是人禍所以這個部分我要提醒部長在這個部分可能還要加緊你從事務官起來當政務官這種態度去追根究柢引導他們恢復積極的態度這是我對你的期免另外\n我就要跟這個司長來請教我們道交條例67條之一當然這個酒駕終生不能考照但是我看到我們現在開了這個後門這個部分\n部長你的看法是什麼看法我們了解現在酒駕其實他也有他現在是有雖然是不得考照不過他現在有一個其實是加嚴去觀察就是有6年的觀察期的這樣的一個規定那我想這個部分是確保就是說酒駕如果萬一他就有一個臨時的駕照但是等個觀察期加長確認他沒有在違規的一個狀況那細節我是不是請\n酒駕你們做這個決定啊做這個決定啊是已經13年前的事13年前酒駕是行政華華喔可是本宴修華之後知道全國裡面酒駕是非常嚴重的所以加重其刑有刑責喔\n有刑責喔所以那兩的時段的考量情形是會不一樣所以市長這個部分是你在主導有沒有可能其他的部分去開放個人沒有意見但是酒駕是全國最痛恨的明明是酒駕要肇事又致死可是最後他有一定時間他就可以去考照這合理嗎\n這個部分我跟委員報告一下可能這個最近就是部裡面修正道路交通安全規則加嚴有關於吊扣吊銷必須要領短效期的駕照那一些相關配套法律的修正而造成外界有些這個誤解但是剛剛委員提到一個重點就是說處罰條例67條之一那個是民國95年修的一個這個部分那當時是大法官司縣531號因為原來處罰條例\n市長你看清楚他根本沒有講違憲\n他根本要你們檢討這個就是什麼他最後一個重點就是這個吊銷駕駛人之恢復適應社會能力或改善具體事實他沒有講他沒有講危險喔市長所以啊你們就過度解讀啦沒關係那這個\n酒駕造勢\n至於至實不能考照這種東西要把它明定下去至於其他我真的沒有意見但是酒駕肇事至實這種東西是講十二不十二當然嚴重但是最起碼的話我們要嚴懲所以我要建議師長\n主席\n主席我請那個觀光署我們周署長來\n委員好好 局長你剛才的書面報告裡面講一句話我有感覺是有一點心酸啊 也有一點難過你講的一句話就是觀光品牌 飲客千萬來台欸這是押韻 或者你想要做的 國定\n觀光品牌引客千萬來台這是在做文章還是想你以後要做我們也期待今年能夠達到一千萬的國際觀光客來台這是我們的目標我個人對於你從政過程當處事言者但是這個叫做口號我現在要跟你談的是屏東大鵬灣的管理問題\n所以我也知道州署長全國有13個都要你來管理但是這些管理當中你署長沒有問題底下人有問題這是最慘的事我要跟你談的大鵬灣署長你知道有光雕表演嗎\n另外一個大鵬灣為什麼這個光雕現在變成沒有意義了這個第一個給你做參考第二個每一次大鵬灣你們都做半雕禁止釣魚可是航道裡面漁網一大堆知不知道這個就是你們管理的問題\n另外一個不能捕魚不能釣魚釣客一大堆你們也不管這個也沒有關係但是只要管理得當那其他OK另外一個比較嚴重的\n我上次去考察已經跟你們講署長你也答應柯和島的修復現在進行到什麼程度是這個大鵬灣的柯和島確實他有歷史的你不要跟我講那麼多啦現在已經發包了然後工程什麼時候發包的來\n我們在3月底的時候確實有一個部分還沒有完成你可以騙我不要騙部長喔沒有沒有沒有你可以騙我但是不能騙部長我們確定了是欸柏中你要聽一下欸我跟你說騙我沒關係不能騙你喔跟委員報告一下你也非常清楚就是每次颱風的時候柯和島都會受到影響我知道啦花苞的沒有啦已經發苞了而且絕標了已經發苞了喔對誰跟你講花苞啦\n誰跟你講話包的我們景區發展組當然是督導管理處啦那管理處確實也我跟你講署長\n我已經告訴你們市長你有13個風景區你是很忙碌的但是屬下不能騙你們不能騙你我希望你這個部分你查清楚花包的沒有我跟你講喔我跟你講喔大鵬灣我跟你講我對你們非常尊重我要問什麼我都還事先告訴你們所以我希望我不希望\n主席\n主席\n李部長\n我再度提醒你在這裡作證不要下一次我在追的時候你們每一個被我K到我不管喔因為我本來是很溫和的啦但是看到這樣我希望你們盡快提供給我好不好你們各單位有多少個那個監視站安全的監視站坡度的監視等等趕快提供給我不要在立法院答應我的事情來欺騙立法院這樣是滑是不容的\n林國成委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.664 --> 00:22.044\n請李部長請李部長還有我們林師長請林師長林福山師長委員好好部長本席這會退回報告書的但是你這次我看起來啊\n\n00:23.248 --> 00:24.449\n李孟諺列席報告\n\n00:47.029 --> 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