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00:02:25,240\n因為像退輔會所述的政府在65年的時候就已經同意退休的軍公教比較限職機關人員支領子女教育補助費他不是現在突然要增加他以前就有\n\n8\n00:02:31,943 --> 00:02:33,843\n是在106年當時執政黨在強推年金改革的時候人數優勢強勢表決本來要全數刪除國軍領奉人員子女的教育補助費因為很多包括像社會的輿論還有退役軍人的強烈反彈所以為了減低社會的衝擊才有這樣子\n\n9\n00:02:56,288 --> 00:03:02,809\n這本來就存在本來就有這一筆預算所以人事行政局講的理由完全不同軍人因為服役的特性你說公教人員或其他的機關人員也要比照他們可以做到65歲\n\n10\n00:03:25,795 --> 00:03:41,843\n軍人你在服役的時候因為他的服役特性國家要維持部隊輕壯的人力所以要求他們要提早退伍在中年要轉職可是在很多的子女其實他都還是在就學的階段\n\n11\n00:03:43,243 --> 00:04:00,315\n因為要晚婚啊之前的作息或者其實常常會影響到他們可能結婚的意願或者他的很多條件的限制所以就這個部分我們特別提出來今天他只是給法源\n\n12\n00:04:02,114 --> 00:04:25,244\n這今天是給法院哪裡是增加預算大家如果還記得的話三年前為了要跟國外做一些什麼退伍軍人的交流編了兩個人兩個人喔他可以出國回去做交流的費用還有辦公費還有薪水這兩個人領了我們國家多少預算1727萬\n\n13\n00:04:29,531 --> 00:04:45,050\n這是應該的嗎?人家在軍中付出那麼久,我們在斤斤計較,你今天所有的行政院說要給一些獎學金還有其他絕大費的補助的時候,為什麼你們都沒有去考慮到其他的因素?\n\n14\n00:04:46,263 --> 00:05:07,502\n所以我們今天特別要提出來不要拿憲法或什麼增加預算來講今天如果連執政黨的委員都認同那找出方法來找出法源來以前過去的很多案例行政單位常常就是說無法源跟依據所以沒有辦法依法行政我們今天就是給你法源啊如果大家都支持的話行政院反對什麼\n\n15\n00:05:10,905 --> 00:05:36,632\n所以我們想今天如果說就這個部分不要拿很多的條件如果覺得非常重要尤其現在兩岸兵凶戰委軍人這個也不行那個也不行去哪裡也受到限制那有一些福利要給的時候又意見很多這是我們今天特別要提出來修法的要提出來增加這個法源的一個很重要的一個因素\n\n16\n00:05:37,762 --> 00:05:37,982\n有報告委員\n\n17\n00:06:01,068 --> 00:06:05,873\n我們現在的獎學金還有,獎助金有,就學補助的部分公立大學的有,\n\n18\n00:06:14,397 --> 00:06:16,338\n那要退輔會做什麼今天要退輔會做什麼今天衛福部也有很多的醫院那我們還是有榮民醫院今天那個勞動部\n\n19\n00:06:38,752 --> 00:06:44,218\n他有很多的職訓的專班那我們也有這些訓練的這些專班不是因為其他的部會有我們就應該要把它取消掉你應該要做得更好因為這是榮民的福利而且他身為榮民受到這樣的照顧這是一種榮譽所以你不要動不動就這個減那個減那要退輔會做什麼\n\n20\n00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:21,095\n還有一點因為不好意思跟主席再借一點時間這個部分我們後續再做討論不過我們請主委你們可以去做一些考量不應該把其他本來我們應該有的你通通自己把它自廢武功什麼都把它廢掉另外就是在5月27號的時候\n\n21\n00:07:26,758 --> 00:07:31,660\n退輔會員其實在基金會針對112學年度第二學期親韓榮民子女就學補助名單總共有1015位可是我們接到不少的反應就是能夠符合這個資格的其實他本身就是親韓的家庭\n\n22\n00:07:46,550 --> 00:08:06,965\n那我們現在基金會因為6月6號發出一個公告主要是因為基金會董事會的異動因為董事長不做了嘛李文忠不做了嘛所以你現在這個獎助學金侵含家庭學生的這樣子的一個獎學金你居然停發那什麼時候要發他就是需要這些錢啊\n\n23\n00:08:11,479 --> 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