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00:02:56,721\n高雄跟屏東交界處有一些被徵收可能將來路線經過被徵收的民眾他有一些陳情的意見那這些陳情意見也在補件的時候要做適當的處理那我是不是請局長也再跟您報告比較詳細的部分\n\n10\n00:02:58,261 --> 00:03:14,599\n局長稍等一下我先提出另外一個質疑就是因為我們的環委有提到說高屏22塊跟高鐵南延屏東的路線幾乎平行那這樣子的一個影響會不會涉及到後續我們這個高鐵路線的進行這部分是一併來做說明\n\n11\n00:03:18,293 --> 00:03:45,552\n這個部分我的了解是這樣就是說因為兩個共構路廊就前段前段有一段是共構路廊那所以他的施工的範圍會佔用這個平面道路稍微比較大一點那在環評的時候委員有提出說會不會對當地的平面道路的交通會不會產生影響那希望主辦單位再補充一些這個這個詳細的資料那讓委員在下次審的時候可以\n\n12\n00:03:46,432 --> 00:03:54,819\n高屏二塊在這個6月11號是這個環境部專案小組第一次的一個審查會那剛剛所提到的像比如說這一個飲用水還有這個取水的這個部分其實在當初路線的時候其實已經有做相關的一個迴避了\n\n13\n00:04:12,774 --> 00:04:31,343\n那另外就是說因為跟高鐵的這個延伸確實是只有就是說前面有一小段共構不過我們在整個這個高屏二塊在這個環屏的這個部分其實還是先走我們相關的程序也都有向委員說明就是說比如對地方交通的一個衝擊跟交違的一個處理\n\n14\n00:04:33,224 --> 00:04:59,117\n這個要拜託部長跟局長因為這個對我們屏東的未來的建設非常的重要我們希望能夠加快速度那就麻煩部長跟局長這邊就費心我們也很期待說這一條快速道路能夠在114年的1月相關的計畫環評還有相關計畫核定那開始進行設計114年就是明年好謝謝那另外針對那個觀光部分我們再請一下周處長\n\n15\n00:05:06,467 --> 00:05:17,916\n部長所長我想0403花蓮地震之後當然觀光署有提出一個振興的一個方案希望能夠來幫忙花蓮的觀光業者那預計投入了11的經費那目前的成效如何\n\n16\n00:05:19,231 --> 00:05:38,631\n對我們這次主要還是花蓮市從6月1號開始那麼看起來這個在端午節這個假期因為跟去年比的話去年是4天那這一次是3天那在花蓮縣這個部分的住房率確實也不太理想是\n\n17\n00:05:41,134 --> 00:05:52,627\n本期還是要提醒就是說我們的振興觀光不能只用單點思考尤其你說你要到花東一定要經過屏東跟宜蘭你只有補助花東屏東跟宜蘭都沒有補助人家要怎麼帶進來\n\n18\n00:05:58,106 --> 00:06:18,392\n對這個應該講分兩個部分談跟委員報告一下我們在推南彎就是希望把這個雲加這個我們講說南部南台灣這部分能夠帶動那當然雙東的部分也是在我們來講是台灣最南邊所以這個台東跟屏東本來就是我們一個重點是\n\n19\n00:06:19,672 --> 00:06:40,060\n這個部長這個本席還是要提醒就是說這個過去以來當然我們恆春半島恆春的觀光跟小琉球是我們很重要的一個觀光狼帶那目前看起來這個恆春半島的觀光產業也受到很大的影響甚至連這一次我們的這個訂房率這個端午節的訂房率也不盡理想\n\n20\n00:06:40,700 --> 00:07:03,861\n那大鵬灣看起來目前我們不管是觀光署還是大鵬灣管理署只著重在小琉球那小琉球其實你們不用形象齁人客就很多啦一個客幕啦齁那尤其我們看到更遺憾的是這個大鵬灣的發展上面齁我們著重在小琉球之外但是我們整個大鵬灣的共同管溝到目前為止都還沒有做\n\n21\n00:07:04,462 --> 00:07:04,722\n徐富癸\n\n22\n00:07:19,244 --> 00:07:36,822\n所以我們會來加速大鵬灣相關的這個觀光客的引入好另外我想馬上就是七月份就是暑假來臨那針對整個我們這個屏東縣的這個觀光的一個補助的一個行程還是一些套裝的一個配套措施\n\n23\n00:07:37,242 --> 00:07:37,843\n徐富癸徐副副副副副\n\n24\n00:08:03,784 --> 00:08:05,165\n徐富癸徐副副副副副副副\n\n25\n00:08:13,769 --> 00:08:39,418\n跟委員報告一下那個屏東跟台東本來就是我們輔導的一個重點所以這個部分我們會在委員要求之下我們6月底會提一個報告給你蘇長有輔導又有成效啦不是只有帳面上都看不到的東西是輔導有用沒用啦對啦不是因為他比較不過屏東縣政府也很努力啦我們跟屏東縣政府也很多合作的項目\n\n26\n00:08:40,518 --> 00:09:07,230\n對啦但是縣政府財源有限真的還是要靠我們部長跟署長裡面做幫忙啊讓我們一些公共活動能夠再大力推展一下是有人委員報告這次屏東在端午節住房率大概有55%那確實是還有提升的空間不過55%大家準備都撈白菜啊55%部長署長再拜託一下我們再努力跟縣政府這邊我們再來合作看怎麼樣針對暑假能夠再強化一下好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n748\t1875\t謝謝主席有請李部長請李部長\n10406\t34759\t部長好部長首先本席要感謝本席在追隨我們潘前縣長跟我們現在鄒縣長在屏東縣這種服務的時候您當時是擔任秘書長那也協助了很多我們屏東的一些重要建設那所以本席相信這個部長未來這個對於屏東的交通建設我想先請教部長\n35399\t49367\t對未來屏東我們包含高鐵、高捷、屏南快速道路二塊甚至這個整個鐵路的這個高架化的系統的部分部長對屏東的建設有沒有信心是我們會全力以赴\n51347\t77092\t這點本席要特別拜託部長我想本席這邊包容我們的縣長也好我們的潘秘書長也好我們共同的企業就是我們屏東的交通是我們整個產業發展也好教育文化還有我們整個經濟發展的重要的一個任督二脈那我們也期待部長不只是一個全方位的部長更是一個有行動效率的部長能夠把所有的這個我們相關單位\n78092\t80054\t高屏二塊是我們串接高雄跟屏東產業很重要的一個攬帶但是\n95126\t116064\t我們環境部在11號進行一個環評審查的時候我們的環委認為這個案子要經過高頻期施工可能會影響到所謂的一個飲用水源但是本席很納悶的是我們的國山已經有通過我們的高頻期這個流域啦那當時在試做的時候也沒有問題那為什麼會出現這個狀況\n117105\t138920\t那交通部會如何來解決?這個6月11號當天我看到這個新聞就是說在環評他有先請應該不叫推薦他是叫補充資料那我有親自打給這個環境部的主持的這個處長那麼他表示這個大概都是一般性的問題\n139901\t160234\t所以只要再補充文件應該就可以來但是以媒體看起來這個我們的防衛講得很嚴重說得很嚴重就是說這是普通大概都不會第一次就過一定會需要再補件補說明另外他特別有提醒就是在靠近那個\n161455\t176721\t高雄跟屏東交界處有一些被徵收可能將來路線經過被徵收的民眾他有一些陳情的意見那這些陳情意見也在補件的時候要做適當的處理那我是不是請局長也再跟您報告比較詳細的部分\n178261\t194599\t局長稍等一下我先提出另外一個質疑就是因為我們的環委有提到說高屏22塊跟高鐵南延屏東的路線幾乎平行那這樣子的一個影響會不會涉及到後續我們這個高鐵路線的進行這部分是一併來做說明\n198293\t225552\t這個部分我的了解是這樣就是說因為兩個共構路廊就前段前段有一段是共構路廊那所以他的施工的範圍會佔用這個平面道路稍微比較大一點那在環評的時候委員有提出說會不會對當地的平面道路的交通會不會產生影響那希望主辦單位再補充一些這個這個詳細的資料那讓委員在下次審的時候可以\n226432\t234819\t高屏二塊在這個6月11號是這個環境部專案小組第一次的一個審查會那剛剛所提到的像比如說這一個飲用水還有這個取水的這個部分其實在當初路線的時候其實已經有做相關的一個迴避了\n252774\t271343\t那另外就是說因為跟高鐵的這個延伸確實是只有就是說前面有一小段共構不過我們在整個這個高屏二塊在這個環屏的這個部分其實還是先走我們相關的程序也都有向委員說明就是說比如對地方交通的一個衝擊跟交違的一個處理\n273224\t299117\t這個要拜託部長跟局長因為這個對我們屏東的未來的建設非常的重要我們希望能夠加快速度那就麻煩部長跟局長這邊就費心我們也很期待說這一條快速道路能夠在114年的1月相關的計畫環評還有相關計畫核定那開始進行設計114年就是明年好謝謝那另外針對那個觀光部分我們再請一下周處長\n306467\t317916\t部長所長我想0403花蓮地震之後當然觀光署有提出一個振興的一個方案希望能夠來幫忙花蓮的觀光業者那預計投入了11的經費那目前的成效如何\n319231\t338631\t對 我們這次主要還是花蓮市從6月1號開始 那麼看起來這個在端午節這個假期因為跟去年比的話 去年是4天那這一次是3天 那在花蓮縣這個部分的住房率確實也不太理想 是\n341134\t352627\t本期還是要提醒就是說我們的振興觀光不能只用單點思考尤其你說你要到花東一定要經過屏東跟宜蘭你只有補助花東 屏東跟宜蘭都沒有補助人家要怎麼帶進來\n358106\t378392\t對 這個應該講分兩個部分談跟委員報告一下我們在推南彎就是希望把這個雲加這個我們講說南部南台灣這部分能夠帶動那當然雙東的部分也是在我們來講是台灣最南邊所以這個台東跟屏東本來就是我們一個重點是\n379672\t400060\t這個部長這個本席還是要提醒就是說這個過去以來當然我們恆春半島恆春的觀光跟小琉球是我們很重要的一個觀光狼帶那目前看起來這個恆春半島的觀光產業也受到很大的影響甚至連這一次我們的這個訂房率這個端午節的訂房率也不盡理想\n400700\t423861\t那大鵬灣看起來目前我們不管是觀光署還是大鵬灣管理署只著重在小琉球那小琉球其實你們不用形象齁人客就很多啦一個客幕啦齁那尤其我們看到更遺憾的是這個大鵬灣的發展上面齁我們著重在小琉球之外但是我們整個大鵬灣的共同管溝到目前為止都還沒有做\n424462\t424722\t徐富癸\n439244\t456822\t所以我們會來加速大鵬灣相關的這個觀光客的引入好另外我想馬上就是七月份就是暑假來臨那針對整個我們這個屏東縣的這個觀光的一個補助的一個行程還是一些套裝的一個配套措施\n457242\t457843\t徐富癸徐副副副副副\n483784\t485165\t徐富癸徐副副副副副副副\n493769\t519418\t跟委員報告一下那個屏東跟台東本來就是我們輔導的一個重點所以這個部分我們會在委員要求之下我們6月底會提一個報告給你蘇長有輔導又有成效啦不是只有帳面上都看不到的東西是輔導有用沒用啦對啦不是因為他比較不過屏東縣政府也很努力啦我們跟屏東縣政府也很多合作的項目\n520518\t547230\t對啦但是縣政府財源有限真的還是要靠我們部長跟署長裡面做幫忙啊讓我們一些公共活動能夠再大力推展一下是 有人委員報告這次屏東在端午節住房率大概有55%那確實是還有提升的空間不過55%大家準備都撈白菜啊55%部長署長再拜託一下我們再努力跟縣政府這邊我們再來合作看怎麼樣針對暑假能夠再強化一下好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請李部長請李部長\n部長好部長首先本席要感謝本席在追隨我們潘前縣長跟我們現在鄒縣長在屏東縣這種服務的時候您當時是擔任秘書長那也協助了很多我們屏東的一些重要建設那所以本席相信這個部長未來這個對於屏東的交通建設我想先請教部長\n對未來屏東我們包含高鐵、高捷、屏南快速道路二塊甚至這個整個鐵路的這個高架化的系統的部分部長對屏東的建設有沒有信心是我們會全力以赴\n這點本席要特別拜託部長我想本席這邊包容我們的縣長也好我們的潘秘書長也好我們共同的企業就是我們屏東的交通是我們整個產業發展也好教育文化還有我們整個經濟發展的重要的一個任督二脈那我們也期待部長不只是一個全方位的部長更是一個有行動效率的部長能夠把所有的這個我們相關單位\n高屏二塊是我們串接高雄跟屏東產業很重要的一個攬帶但是\n我們環境部在11號進行一個環評審查的時候我們的環委認為這個案子要經過高頻期施工可能會影響到所謂的一個飲用水源但是本席很納悶的是我們的國山已經有通過我們的高頻期這個流域啦那當時在試做的時候也沒有問題那為什麼會出現這個狀況\n那交通部會如何來解決?這個6月11號當天我看到這個新聞就是說在環評他有先請應該不叫推薦他是叫補充資料那我有親自打給這個環境部的主持的這個處長那麼他表示這個大概都是一般性的問題\n所以只要再補充文件應該就可以來但是以媒體看起來這個我們的防衛講得很嚴重說得很嚴重就是說這是普通大概都不會第一次就過一定會需要再補件補說明另外他特別有提醒就是在靠近那個\n高雄跟屏東交界處有一些被徵收可能將來路線經過被徵收的民眾他有一些陳情的意見那這些陳情意見也在補件的時候要做適當的處理那我是不是請局長也再跟您報告比較詳細的部分\n局長稍等一下我先提出另外一個質疑就是因為我們的環委有提到說高屏22塊跟高鐵南延屏東的路線幾乎平行那這樣子的一個影響會不會涉及到後續我們這個高鐵路線的進行這部分是一併來做說明\n這個部分我的了解是這樣就是說因為兩個共構路廊就前段前段有一段是共構路廊那所以他的施工的範圍會佔用這個平面道路稍微比較大一點那在環評的時候委員有提出說會不會對當地的平面道路的交通會不會產生影響那希望主辦單位再補充一些這個這個詳細的資料那讓委員在下次審的時候可以\n高屏二塊在這個6月11號是這個環境部專案小組第一次的一個審查會那剛剛所提到的像比如說這一個飲用水還有這個取水的這個部分其實在當初路線的時候其實已經有做相關的一個迴避了\n那另外就是說因為跟高鐵的這個延伸確實是只有就是說前面有一小段共構不過我們在整個這個高屏二塊在這個環屏的這個部分其實還是先走我們相關的程序也都有向委員說明就是說比如對地方交通的一個衝擊跟交違的一個處理\n這個要拜託部長跟局長因為這個對我們屏東的未來的建設非常的重要我們希望能夠加快速度那就麻煩部長跟局長這邊就費心我們也很期待說這一條快速道路能夠在114年的1月相關的計畫環評還有相關計畫核定那開始進行設計114年就是明年好謝謝那另外針對那個觀光部分我們再請一下周處長\n部長所長我想0403花蓮地震之後當然觀光署有提出一個振興的一個方案希望能夠來幫忙花蓮的觀光業者那預計投入了11的經費那目前的成效如何\n對 我們這次主要還是花蓮市從6月1號開始 那麼看起來這個在端午節這個假期因為跟去年比的話 去年是4天那這一次是3天 那在花蓮縣這個部分的住房率確實也不太理想 是\n本期還是要提醒就是說我們的振興觀光不能只用單點思考尤其你說你要到花東一定要經過屏東跟宜蘭你只有補助花東 屏東跟宜蘭都沒有補助人家要怎麼帶進來\n對 這個應該講分兩個部分談跟委員報告一下我們在推南彎就是希望把這個雲加這個我們講說南部南台灣這部分能夠帶動那當然雙東的部分也是在我們來講是台灣最南邊所以這個台東跟屏東本來就是我們一個重點是\n這個部長這個本席還是要提醒就是說這個過去以來當然我們恆春半島恆春的觀光跟小琉球是我們很重要的一個觀光狼帶那目前看起來這個恆春半島的觀光產業也受到很大的影響甚至連這一次我們的這個訂房率這個端午節的訂房率也不盡理想\n那大鵬灣看起來目前我們不管是觀光署還是大鵬灣管理署只著重在小琉球那小琉球其實你們不用形象齁人客就很多啦一個客幕啦齁那尤其我們看到更遺憾的是這個大鵬灣的發展上面齁我們著重在小琉球之外但是我們整個大鵬灣的共同管溝到目前為止都還沒有做\n徐富癸\n所以我們會來加速大鵬灣相關的這個觀光客的引入好另外我想馬上就是七月份就是暑假來臨那針對整個我們這個屏東縣的這個觀光的一個補助的一個行程還是一些套裝的一個配套措施\n徐富癸徐副副副副副\n徐富癸徐副副副副副副副\n跟委員報告一下那個屏東跟台東本來就是我們輔導的一個重點所以這個部分我們會在委員要求之下我們6月底會提一個報告給你蘇長有輔導又有成效啦不是只有帳面上都看不到的東西是輔導有用沒用啦對啦不是因為他比較不過屏東縣政府也很努力啦我們跟屏東縣政府也很多合作的項目\n對啦但是縣政府財源有限真的還是要靠我們部長跟署長裡面做幫忙啊讓我們一些公共活動能夠再大力推展一下是 有人委員報告這次屏東在端午節住房率大概有55%那確實是還有提升的空間不過55%大家準備都撈白菜啊55%部長署長再拜託一下我們再努力跟縣政府這邊我們再來合作看怎麼樣針對暑假能夠再強化一下好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.748 --> 00:01.875\n謝謝主席有請李部長請李部長\n\n00:10.406 --> 00:34.759\n部長好部長首先本席要感謝本席在追隨我們潘前縣長跟我們現在鄒縣長在屏東縣這種服務的時候您當時是擔任秘書長那也協助了很多我們屏東的一些重要建設那所以本席相信這個部長未來這個對於屏東的交通建設我想先請教部長\n\n00:35.399 --> 00:49.367\n對未來屏東我們包含高鐵、高捷、屏南快速道路二塊甚至這個整個鐵路的這個高架化的系統的部分部長對屏東的建設有沒有信心是我們會全力以赴\n\n00:51.347 --> 01:17.092\n這點本席要特別拜託部長我想本席這邊包容我們的縣長也好我們的潘秘書長也好我們共同的企業就是我們屏東的交通是我們整個產業發展也好教育文化還有我們整個經濟發展的重要的一個任督二脈那我們也期待部長不只是一個全方位的部長更是一個有行動效率的部長能夠把所有的這個我們相關單位\n\n01:18.092 --> 01:20.054\n高屏二塊是我們串接高雄跟屏東產業很重要的一個攬帶但是\n\n01:35.126 --> 01:56.064\n我們環境部在11號進行一個環評審查的時候我們的環委認為這個案子要經過高頻期施工可能會影響到所謂的一個飲用水源但是本席很納悶的是我們的國山已經有通過我們的高頻期這個流域啦那當時在試做的時候也沒有問題那為什麼會出現這個狀況\n\n01:57.105 --> 02:18.920\n那交通部會如何來解決?這個6月11號當天我看到這個新聞就是說在環評他有先請應該不叫推薦他是叫補充資料那我有親自打給這個環境部的主持的這個處長那麼他表示這個大概都是一般性的問題\n\n02:19.901 --> 02:40.234\n所以只要再補充文件應該就可以來但是以媒體看起來這個我們的防衛講得很嚴重說得很嚴重就是說這是普通大概都不會第一次就過一定會需要再補件補說明另外他特別有提醒就是在靠近那個\n\n02:41.455 --> 02:56.721\n高雄跟屏東交界處有一些被徵收可能將來路線經過被徵收的民眾他有一些陳情的意見那這些陳情意見也在補件的時候要做適當的處理那我是不是請局長也再跟您報告比較詳細的部分\n\n02:58.261 --> 03:14.599\n局長稍等一下我先提出另外一個質疑就是因為我們的環委有提到說高屏22塊跟高鐵南延屏東的路線幾乎平行那這樣子的一個影響會不會涉及到後續我們這個高鐵路線的進行這部分是一併來做說明\n\n03:18.293 --> 03:45.552\n這個部分我的了解是這樣就是說因為兩個共構路廊就前段前段有一段是共構路廊那所以他的施工的範圍會佔用這個平面道路稍微比較大一點那在環評的時候委員有提出說會不會對當地的平面道路的交通會不會產生影響那希望主辦單位再補充一些這個這個詳細的資料那讓委員在下次審的時候可以\n\n03:46.432 --> 03:54.819\n高屏二塊在這個6月11號是這個環境部專案小組第一次的一個審查會那剛剛所提到的像比如說這一個飲用水還有這個取水的這個部分其實在當初路線的時候其實已經有做相關的一個迴避了\n\n04:12.774 --> 04:31.343\n那另外就是說因為跟高鐵的這個延伸確實是只有就是說前面有一小段共構不過我們在整個這個高屏二塊在這個環屏的這個部分其實還是先走我們相關的程序也都有向委員說明就是說比如對地方交通的一個衝擊跟交違的一個處理\n\n04:33.224 --> 04:59.117\n這個要拜託部長跟局長因為這個對我們屏東的未來的建設非常的重要我們希望能夠加快速度那就麻煩部長跟局長這邊就費心我們也很期待說這一條快速道路能夠在114年的1月相關的計畫環評還有相關計畫核定那開始進行設計114年就是明年好謝謝那另外針對那個觀光部分我們再請一下周處長\n\n05:06.467 --> 05:17.916\n部長所長我想0403花蓮地震之後當然觀光署有提出一個振興的一個方案希望能夠來幫忙花蓮的觀光業者那預計投入了11的經費那目前的成效如何\n\n05:19.231 --> 05:38.631\n對我們這次主要還是花蓮市從6月1號開始那麼看起來這個在端午節這個假期因為跟去年比的話去年是4天那這一次是3天那在花蓮縣這個部分的住房率確實也不太理想是\n\n05:41.134 --> 05:52.627\n本期還是要提醒就是說我們的振興觀光不能只用單點思考尤其你說你要到花東一定要經過屏東跟宜蘭你只有補助花東屏東跟宜蘭都沒有補助人家要怎麼帶進來\n\n05:58.106 --> 06:18.392\n對這個應該講分兩個部分談跟委員報告一下我們在推南彎就是希望把這個雲加這個我們講說南部南台灣這部分能夠帶動那當然雙東的部分也是在我們來講是台灣最南邊所以這個台東跟屏東本來就是我們一個重點是\n\n06:19.672 --> 06:40.060\n這個部長這個本席還是要提醒就是說這個過去以來當然我們恆春半島恆春的觀光跟小琉球是我們很重要的一個觀光狼帶那目前看起來這個恆春半島的觀光產業也受到很大的影響甚至連這一次我們的這個訂房率這個端午節的訂房率也不盡理想\n\n06:40.700 --> 07:03.861\n那大鵬灣看起來目前我們不管是觀光署還是大鵬灣管理署只著重在小琉球那小琉球其實你們不用形象齁人客就很多啦一個客幕啦齁那尤其我們看到更遺憾的是這個大鵬灣的發展上面齁我們著重在小琉球之外但是我們整個大鵬灣的共同管溝到目前為止都還沒有做\n\n07:04.462 --> 07:04.722\n徐富癸\n\n07:19.244 --> 07:36.822\n所以我們會來加速大鵬灣相關的這個觀光客的引入好另外我想馬上就是七月份就是暑假來臨那針對整個我們這個屏東縣的這個觀光的一個補助的一個行程還是一些套裝的一個配套措施\n\n07:37.242 --> 07:37.843\n徐富癸徐副副副副副\n\n08:03.784 --> 08:05.165\n徐富癸徐副副副副副副副\n\n08:13.769 --> 08:39.418\n跟委員報告一下那個屏東跟台東本來就是我們輔導的一個重點所以這個部分我們會在委員要求之下我們6月底會提一個報告給你蘇長有輔導又有成效啦不是只有帳面上都看不到的東西是輔導有用沒用啦對啦不是因為他比較不過屏東縣政府也很努力啦我們跟屏東縣政府也很多合作的項目\n\n08:40.518 --> 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