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00:04:50,219\n為什麼我說體育署在做什麼來看一下審計報告體育署補助項目的檢核機制缺爐啊你們完全沒有設審核機制啊或者是雖然定有自行檢核表但也沒有落實審核啊對於審計部針對體育署檢核機制缺爐就是沒有啦\n\n13\n00:04:51,277 --> 00:04:59,525\n提議書有什麼要說的?他說的對不對?他說你沒有檢核機制應該要設檢核機制根本沒有檢核機制放縱這些個別的不肖的協會胡搞瞎搞\n\n14\n00:05:15,781 --> 00:05:41,974\n審計部有沒有說錯?跟委員報告應該是說我們在落實方面應該再加強啦人家說你檢核機制缺乳欸缺乳的中文字語很難理解嗎?來請一下次長這件事情的責任要不要追究?我想這個我們後續應該要在這個事情上因為秉辰兄來自學界我們之前也是好朋友我對你有很高的期待\n\n15\n00:05:43,615 --> 00:06:11,715\n在行政機關當中出現這樣子的狀況能夠不追究責任嗎來請教次長我想這個我們應該要回去好好來檢討這到底是哪邊出了問題這不是哪邊出了問題啊我跟次長報告這是該做的事情根本沒有做這是該做的事情根本沒有做來最後一樣因為主席站起來了不好意思再跟主席借一分鐘就好了先跟科委員致歉再一分鐘就好了\n\n16\n00:06:12,625 --> 00:06:24,912\n他說你們應該要派員實地訪查結果你們根本沒有落實派員實地訪查過去這兩年只有書面審核然後你們書面審核大概是閉著眼睛審的審計部短短的時間抓了這麼多問題出來你們沒有派員實地查核用書面審查結果書面審查了以後你們也沒有發現受補助的體育團體\n\n17\n00:06:41,789 --> 00:07:06,461\n有問題人家一專案審計下去問題全部都跑出來這件事情一定要徹底的檢討怎麼發生的為什麼國民體育法修正通過了以後還會出現了我們以前所詬病沒有辦法容忍的狀態這件事情我希望教育部要去切實的督導體育署不要放任體育署這樣胡搞瞎搞\n\n18\n00:07:07,597 --> 00:07:19,929\n教育部作為上級的機關．絕對有責任要求體育署徹底的檢討責任次長可不可以承諾好這個我們帶回去來做這個檢討需要多久不要跟我說要半年喔人家審計報告都提出來了報告員那副處長這邊說一個月\n\n19\n00:07:33,266 --> 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所以你看審計部用的詞多重\n已經涉及到刑事責任依照審計法移送法務部所屬調查機關查辦這已經是刑事犯罪行為了先業解散的公司還可以開發票\n然後拿去跟你們體育署報帳這會不會太離譜啊我們2017年在做體育改革的時候就是要防止這種不肖的協會嘛吸納稅的血嘛結果到2024年的時候怎麼樣民主主席是政治後台比較硬喔敢這樣胡搞瞎搞喔再來看\n依照政府採購法應該要辦理公開招標的他卻沒有依法辦理自己去選特定的廠商選哪些特定的廠商我之前整理給體育署看過了全部都是一家人還有自己協會的人出去開的公司什麼都賣結果審計部的調查報告說了什麼違法沒有按照政府採購程序而且高於什麼\n類似商品的採購價格或市場行情一併依照審計法移送法務部所屬調查機關查辦各別的協會胡搞瞎搞所有涉案的人要負責追究法律責任沒有問題但問題是什麼問題是請問體育署在做什麼\n為什麼我說體育署在做什麼來看一下審計報告體育署補助項目的檢核機制缺爐啊你們完全沒有設審核機制啊或者是雖然定有自行檢核表但也沒有落實審核啊對於審計部針對體育署檢核機制缺爐就是沒有啦\n提議書有什麼要說的?他說的對不對?他說你沒有檢核機制應該要設檢核機制根本沒有檢核機制放縱這些個別的不肖的協會胡搞瞎搞\n審計部有沒有說錯?跟委員報告應該是說我們在落實方面應該再加強啦人家說你檢核機制缺乳欸缺乳的中文字語很難理解嗎?來請一下次長這件事情的責任要不要追究?我想這個我們後續應該要在這個事情上因為秉辰兄來自學界我們之前也是好朋友我對你有很高的期待\n在行政機關當中出現這樣子的狀況能夠不追究責任嗎來請教次長我想這個我們應該要回去好好來檢討這到底是哪邊出了問題這不是哪邊出了問題啊我跟次長報告這是該做的事情根本沒有做這是該做的事情根本沒有做來最後一樣因為主席站起來了不好意思再跟主席借一分鐘就好了先跟科委員致歉再一分鐘就好了\n他說你們應該要派員實地訪查結果你們根本沒有落實派員實地訪查過去這兩年只有書面審核然後你們書面審核大概是閉著眼睛審的審計部短短的時間抓了這麼多問題出來你們沒有派員實地查核用書面審查結果書面審查了以後你們也沒有發現受補助的體育團體\n有問題人家一專案審計下去問題全部都跑出來這件事情一定要徹底的檢討怎麼發生的為什麼國民體育法修正通過了以後還會出現了我們以前所詬病沒有辦法容忍的狀態這件事情我希望教育部要去切實的督導體育署不要放任體育署這樣胡搞瞎搞\n教育部作為上級的機關．絕對有責任要求體育署徹底的檢討責任次長可不可以承諾好 這個我們帶回去來做這個檢討需要多久不要跟我說要半年喔人家審計報告都提出來了報告員 那副處長這邊說一個月\n我最後一個月回覆書面報告的時候順便解釋一下審計部的人跟我講去年的經費他們是不會容許核銷的\n因為已經查到了造假違法了嘛審計部有審計部的職責啦查到違法不可能閉上眼睛他們已經明確的表態了2023年的經費絕對不會核銷2022年的經費還要追回來你們一個月以後的檢討報告順便針對這兩件事情2023年的經費2022年的經費發出去的錢怎麼處理一併說明清楚可以嗎\n可以嗎?好,謝謝!\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.546 --> 00:06.086\n關於民意足協\n\n00:33.410 --> 00:37.246\n我們國家支持迷你足協我也支持\n\n00:38.359 --> 01:01.110\n我們給他非常多的錢希望把錢用在包口上讓我們這些小朋友可以有健康的身心去踢足球我們都樂觀其成但問題是什麼但問題是這個錢撒下去都可以胡搞瞎搞我相信這是大家全民的共識我在4月10號的時候我那個時候問了副署長說這些問題\n\n01:04.468 --> 01:26.899\n你們什麼時候要查出來跟我說兩個禮拜徹查清楚結果我等到4月29號在質詢的時候那個時候換署長鄭世忠上來說說他們需要半年以上的時間在那次質詢的時候我就覺得很誇張查一個簡單的帳要花半年以上的時間來我請教一下現在\n\n01:28.860 --> 01:57.017\n因為我到財政委員會我另外要求審計部針對這件事情要做專案的審計審計的報告請問體育署收到沒有報告委員昨天收到審計的那個報告人家早就做出來了你們還要開一個標案再去找外面的人來查現在審計部都幫你們查完了來我們來看一下審計部是怎麼講的\n\n01:59.090 --> 02:21.280\n我當初就跟你們講一查全部都是自己人那些單據我初步一整理裡面偽造變造的痕跡就很明確結果你們持續的拖延持續的打太極說查要半年以上想要用時間換取空間看這件事情可不可以混過去來我們來看一下\n\n02:22.920 --> 02:36.684\n審計部的報告第一點指出來的單據開立的時間點廠商已經解散或歇業解散或歇業可以再開發票出來請款嗎來請教一下副處長包委員應該是不可以的吧應該是不可以嘛所以你看審計部用的詞多重\n\n02:45.563 --> 03:01.083\n已經涉及到刑事責任依照審計法移送法務部所屬調查機關查辦這已經是刑事犯罪行為了先業解散的公司還可以開發票\n\n03:03.735 --> 03:27.814\n然後拿去跟你們體育署報帳這會不會太離譜啊我們2017年在做體育改革的時候就是要防止這種不肖的協會嘛吸納稅的血嘛結果到2024年的時候怎麼樣民主主席是政治後台比較硬喔敢這樣胡搞瞎搞喔再來看\n\n03:29.568 --> 03:58.200\n依照政府採購法應該要辦理公開招標的他卻沒有依法辦理自己去選特定的廠商選哪些特定的廠商我之前整理給體育署看過了全部都是一家人還有自己協會的人出去開的公司什麼都賣結果審計部的調查報告說了什麼違法沒有按照政府採購程序而且高於什麼\n\n04:00.710 --> 04:21.325\n類似商品的採購價格或市場行情一併依照審計法移送法務部所屬調查機關查辦各別的協會胡搞瞎搞所有涉案的人要負責追究法律責任沒有問題但問題是什麼問題是請問體育署在做什麼\n\n04:22.464 --> 04:50.219\n為什麼我說體育署在做什麼來看一下審計報告體育署補助項目的檢核機制缺爐啊你們完全沒有設審核機制啊或者是雖然定有自行檢核表但也沒有落實審核啊對於審計部針對體育署檢核機制缺爐就是沒有啦\n\n04:51.277 --> 04:59.525\n提議書有什麼要說的?他說的對不對?他說你沒有檢核機制應該要設檢核機制根本沒有檢核機制放縱這些個別的不肖的協會胡搞瞎搞\n\n05:15.781 --> 05:41.974\n審計部有沒有說錯?跟委員報告應該是說我們在落實方面應該再加強啦人家說你檢核機制缺乳欸缺乳的中文字語很難理解嗎?來請一下次長這件事情的責任要不要追究?我想這個我們後續應該要在這個事情上因為秉辰兄來自學界我們之前也是好朋友我對你有很高的期待\n\n05:43.615 --> 06:11.715\n在行政機關當中出現這樣子的狀況能夠不追究責任嗎來請教次長我想這個我們應該要回去好好來檢討這到底是哪邊出了問題這不是哪邊出了問題啊我跟次長報告這是該做的事情根本沒有做這是該做的事情根本沒有做來最後一樣因為主席站起來了不好意思再跟主席借一分鐘就好了先跟科委員致歉再一分鐘就好了\n\n06:12.625 --> 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