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00:04:04,198\n八月一號還要兩個月的時間對會去做盤點好署長本席為什麼特別講兩個部分第一你剛講到打詐沒有錯我自己在第一線跟基層同仁員警我還看到署長我看到分局長他都還要不厭其煩的利用每一次參會時間上台致詞的時候拿著麥克風跟大家講是說要反詐騙要如果說有什麼狀況的時候不要去ATM轉帳\n\n12\n00:04:05,179 --> 00:04:07,701\n條文及增訂附表三草案．事條例十五條條文及增訂附表三草案．事條例十五條條文及增訂附表三草案．\n\n13\n00:04:32,910 --> 00:04:54,494\n甚至之前我們有聽到我們的基層同仁還有講說我們上面交辦下來要求我們第一線的遠景同仁去找網紅去找有線電視去找不用錢的宣傳來去做反詐騙的宣傳我們這部分已經都把它精簡了\n\n14\n00:04:58,503 --> 00:05:12,319\n是上一屆署長的時候任內有但你這一屆你把他精檢是不是?好本期就是要講到這一些部分這一些真的就是老民啊我們甚至有那個員警來直接跟我反應是說\n\n15\n00:05:12,739 --> 00:05:13,679\n條文及增訂附表三草案．一）委員\n\n16\n00:05:29,204 --> 00:05:50,935\n我跟委員報告就是對於這些宣導部分確實在我們的同仁增加很多的這些工作負擔那我覺得檢察工作就是要專責去做查集嘛那這部分我已經上任之後就是要做精檢就精準的而已所以現在全國的我們警察都知道了嗎?全國都知道公文已經下去了那第二專案的部分\n\n17\n00:05:53,516 --> 00:06:20,698\n你剛剛有講到很多專案啊對這很像是我們之前一直質疑民進黨政府啊什麼都要搞辦公室什麼都要搞國家隊那辦公室搞了三十幾個國家隊搞了十幾個那變成是所有都是辦公室所有都是國家隊但這跌床架屋啊照理講我們中華民國政府本來就有相關的相關的業務各部會各失其職那一樣的道理啊你剛剛提到的專案\n\n18\n00:06:21,218 --> 00:06:46,789\n有什麼打詐專案、掃黑專案、防堵專案這些專案嘛對不對?那我們實際上講這些專案回過頭來這本來就是業務啊那為什麼要一個一個專案成立之後反而造成是所有的員警同仁就為了一個又一個專案好像所有的署長或說所有的上面長官覺得說我不多設幾個專案就沒有辦法凸顯我的偉大或說沒有辦法凸顯我的效率\n\n19\n00:06:47,956 --> 00:07:11,548\n處長,現在有多少專案你可以精簡多少?以及是不是可以保留真真正正讓警務同仁回歸到專業跟回歸到業務?我現在的主架構就是黑金槍獨炸。黑金槍獨炸這主架構。那為什麼會有做精準的?我就是要統合全國的力量他們盤點出來。因為有一些是遊動性的。\n\n20\n00:07:12,668 --> 00:07:12,788\n二）委員\n\n21\n00:07:32,059 --> 00:07:57,672\n黑金槍毒詐黑道幫派黑道幫派我是說現在原本你上任那你現在是只要限縮在這五個層面對這個治安的部分就是黑金槍毒詐這五個架構好如果說專案的話大概就會從這裡面來做做應令現在實施的這個譬如講現在全民現在大概心裡面最痛苦的就是打詐我現在所要上任的就是要打詐所以\n\n22\n00:07:58,732 --> 00:08:27,026\n我希望現在打造司法現在在院裡面希望能夠趕快通過讓我們有一個源頭從源頭來做管理源頭那邊阻止了我相信可以阻止百分之八十的這個被受騙署長源頭管理這是本期過去也一直強調的甚至我們最近辦公室也接獲到另外一種新型態的網路詐騙以前網路詐騙是一夜市廣告對不對本辦公室最近收到一個最新型態的我也會再\n\n23\n00:08:28,146 --> 00:08:31,668\n條文及增訂附表三草案．一）立法院第11會期司法及法制、內政委員會第1次聯席會議\n\n24\n00:08:58,166 --> 00:09:07,473\n條文及法制及法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律法律\n\n25\n00:09:20,503 --> 00:09:21,904\n條文及增訂附表三草案．立法院第11會期司法及法制、內政委員會第1次聯席會議\n\n26\n00:09:41,235 --> 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