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00:01:03,483\n部長好本席就部長就任因為你對於整體的不管行政業務或是交通部的事務都非常的熟悉那所以也是期待甚深那包括我相信在代表南投縣不管是縣府許縣長也都會部長能夠對於南投縣許多建設還也都期待甚深那在這裡我也想說直接針對\n\n3\n00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:08,789\n蔡英文總統曾提到說中協延伸到南投\n\n4\n00:01:20,865 --> 00:01:48,348\n那包括在賴清德就是總統也在南投來造勢的時候也在新聞畫面也看到了終結要延伸到南投包括那時候時任的行政院長也提出了那想要就教一下部長目前終結延伸到南投的一個期程跟一個規劃那因為本期在3月7號的時候在交通委員會不僅有質詢也有提出這個臨時提案\n\n5\n00:01:48,968 --> 00:02:09,469\n那時候交通部有一個月內規劃期程並向朋友委員報告那因為他這個生活圈啊他這個中張頭是一個生活圈他不是單就南投啦他是整個中張頭生活圈的一個發展那我想就教一下第一部長對於終極延伸到南投的態度跟立場以及說目前這個期程規劃\n\n6\n00:02:11,981 --> 00:02:31,498\n目前終結延伸南投那台中市政府正在規劃的階段應該是說規劃然後後面就是可行性的這個部分那我們也會協調市政府來加快腳步報上來我們會儘速來協助審議那有一些細節我請局長也跟您報告\n\n7\n00:02:32,369 --> 00:02:56,663\n嗯沒關係局長今天就先不讓你說明再補書面資料給我因為那個書面資料還欠著那這最主要是局長那個部長就是也是支持中捷新南投嘛那是加快嘛那本期在這裡還是補充一下就是說因為一日生活圈中章頭啊那中捷延伸到不管是到南投或是草屯市那這個部分都是屬於這個公用書房的預還啦\n\n8\n00:02:58,283 --> 00:03:14,109\n兩到三站以上的捷運站在這14公里內因為南投也沒有捷運局也沒有捷運公司這個部分其實還是要請交通部盡快來規劃也希望部長是表達支持進南投的一個立場\n\n9\n00:03:15,089 --> 00:03:28,495\n是我想他整個規劃出來那麼他會評估他的投資的這個經營比經營比包括運量等等那如果這個有整個投資的效益有足夠我想我們會請國發會這邊審議的時候來支持\n\n10\n00:03:31,016 --> 00:03:31,616\nT-Pass\n\n11\n00:03:47,006 --> 00:04:08,455\n在之前交通部這一個方案其實是非常的不錯但是竹山是被pass掉了因為在這個Tpass的部分我們看到這個月票的規劃中張投苗有納入苗栗那在去年的時候那在今年雲加加南的時候也有把這個生活捐贈納入但是竹山鎮包括鹿谷鄉\n\n12\n00:04:09,295 --> 00:04:33,390\n的生活圈其實是臨近斗六臨近雲林但是問題是在竹山包括鹿谷地區在這個TPAS的月票的購買上其實他們主要的生活圈是往這個斗六這邊過去那想請教一下在這樣子放寬如何讓南投可以跟臨近的雲林做接軌那我想請教一下部長或是局長相關後續規劃怎麼做\n\n13\n00:04:34,431 --> 00:04:58,256\n可能第一個要先請南投跟雲林縣兩個縣府這邊先做溝通那他們如果溝通完就那個費率提出方案我們這邊就可以來協助審核那當然如果有需要我們也可以主動先邀兩個縣市來對口因為竹山確實單獨竹山鎮如果沒有縣府幫忙出面協調確實是不容易\n\n14\n00:04:58,536 --> 00:04:59,937\n我請我們局長找這兩個縣府的交通單位來談\n\n15\n00:05:24,963 --> 00:05:43,781\n那接著的話就叫這個觀光議題那其實觀光署長是非常用心但是在這個重點狼帶的計畫中啊這個太極美麗的這個審查那遭到惡意封殺那時候在審查會議的時候其實就有一個學者直接表達說\n\n16\n00:05:45,822 --> 00:06:03,394\n臺灣是地震帶所以不方便有任何的一個重大的建設或觀光建設就直接把南投線還如此重要的一個觀光警鐵的計畫直接完全封殺掉了那當然組長也非常的難為因為有時候我們也知道在許多的一個政策的推動\n\n17\n00:06:04,215 --> 00:06:21,523\n有時候可能是下面的或外部的學者可能會有特別的意見受到特別的一個指示或者有時候一些政策可能也會有上面的指示但是本席是覺得說像太極美帝它是攸關不僅是南投縣竹山鹿谷地區整體的觀光發展\n\n18\n00:06:22,583 --> 00:06:45,344\n他同時也是代表著這個南投縣在新的一個亮點觀光帶入遊客的一個情況之下尤其是像現在在兩岸關係如此不好的情況觀光客沒有辦法來國內的旅遊更是重要那好不容易縣府的努力之下天梯已經可以開始運行大家現在來講這太極美帝他等於是串聯他\n\n19\n00:06:46,585 --> 00:07:07,676\n在這個機會跟大家報告說明一下他會串聯了這個我們的八卦茶園包括山林溪包括溪頭包括這個我們的那個天梯還有包括整個一個茶產業的地區他藉由這個纜車他可以在這樣子的一個路線上面來講也可以解決他的交通的一個疏導的問題\n\n20\n00:07:08,716 --> 00:07:35,770\n他可以帶動整體的觀光的一個發展成為新亮點但是卻遭會議中的學者就直接說台灣是地震帶不方便有任何的建設就直接把南投縣政府的案子給推翻掉這本行是覺得強烈表達不滿但在過程中我本行也確實是沒有收到任何後續的一個如果要讓我們縣府跟議會來去面對這件事情的解決方案因為這件事情的過程讓南投縣政府跟南投縣議會\n\n21\n00:07:36,790 --> 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