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00:02:20,552\n現在我們有協助各縣市政府建立他的交通行控中心那這個行控中心就會包括整個車流\n\n9\n00:02:36,969 --> 00:03:06,093\n用AI攝影去做車流的演算那來讓他的紅綠燈有一個最佳化的處理那另外其實現在各個路口很多路口已經有開始做科技執法那科技執法也是用攝影機去研判比如說這個車輛有沒有離讓行人我們現在不是規定車輛至少要離行人3公尺3個整目的距離那這個這些影像他就是利用AI來判斷這個車有沒有違法那可以減少這個警察要在路口執法的負擔\n\n10\n00:03:06,735 --> 00:03:07,075\n我請司長跟您報告比較詳細\n\n11\n00:03:26,787 --> 00:03:52,361\n跟委員報告那事實上從106年開始一直到現在現在已經都上線所以我們在那個路您剛剛所垂詢的路口的部分確實我們就已經用AI的這個CCTV來去做影像的辨識然後傳到我們的那個智慧的交通管理中心然後透過這樣的判別之後下到我們的那個路口的耗資控制器裡面然後把\n\n12\n00:03:52,961 --> 00:03:53,682\n警示系統\n\n13\n00:04:16,702 --> 00:04:36,575\n未來會普遍到我們全台灣都會一年編列我以今年今年來說我們大概一年編列多少的預算在補助地方政府算是update我們的系統一年的話我們全國現在目前是大概編了4億4億嗎是好那有沒有預估大概如果說要全面普及的話需要多少經費\n\n14\n00:04:38,343 --> 00:04:50,935\n因為這個部分是比較重大概百分之六成會到這個部分六成對四億裡面有六成是沒有說全台灣的耗資系統都要去做一個全國更新更新的話\n\n15\n00:04:52,130 --> 00:05:17,466\n全國更新這個我們可能還在做統計不過每年的話這個我們是列為重點重點項目對是好那就再麻煩我們叫孟繼續繼續加油好那另外這個我討論一下我們血稅這個塞車的問題因為血稅其實之前之前我跟趙偉去過勘察過嘛端午節的時候更之前清明連假的時候那我們那時候高工局是說\n\n16\n00:05:18,787 --> 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