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00:01:28,569\n將低收入戶使用公立的殯葬設施、火葬場以及納骨塔均免收使用管理相關的一個費用。但是呢我要跟你探討的是社會救助法第一條規定很清楚為照顧低收入戶、中低收入戶我們可以看到制定的這個本法他就是要把輔助救濟的對象有包含中低收\n\n5\n00:01:29,349 --> 00:01:57,531\n所以我想截至現在112年第4季,全國約有28萬6千的中低收入戶,未不符合這樣子的一個殯葬管理條例。我想跟您爭取,院長,基於照顧弱勢,彰顯政府照顧中低收的國民是否評估商帳費用、火化及納骨塔塔位等所需經費中央編列來給予支持。雲林縣目前正在做。行政院可不可以有這個機會來演繹?\n\n6\n00:01:59,548 --> 00:02:23,689\n報告委員這個有關於地方自治事項他必須有一個全國的一致性那現在呢中低收入戶總計有26萬餘人這個已經由地方政府在吸收這樣的一個費用是如果再納入中低收入戶那這個人數當然龐大當然同樣如果由地方政府來吸收的話那才是地方自治事項那是不是地方政府能夠去\n\n7\n00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:26,771\n所以我希望透過這個這麼重要的一個質詢來跟您建議希望內政部能夠做一個考慮\n\n8\n00:02:49,839 --> 00:03:10,366\n那當然第二個我想跟你探討的是有關於我們大家都在探討的社會住宅我想我以103年當這個分水嶺因為103年有所謂的潮運當時內政部統計全國的住宅價格指數99.07而現在第四季112年的第四季來到了136.2那我想孔子說32例\n\n9\n00:03:12,186 --> 00:03:37,074\n我自己呢35歲我覺得這是一個人生的分水嶺我們在跑這個行程的時候很多有些跟我們差不多歲數的一些年輕人跟我們分享不敢結婚不敢生薪水比不上其他的國家房價持續的攀升對他們來說高不可攀負擔非常的重院長就你自己對自己觀察你對這個房價的觀察房市的觀察你覺得有沒有還漲甚至有降價\n\n10\n00:03:38,742 --> 00:03:59,148\n當然這個因為都會化的行程公共建設的加強是乃至於整個建築成本的提高以及很多專業區科技園區的產生周遭帶動的一個土地的需求房屋的需求等等以及在這個建商他們用很多的行銷的手法\n\n11\n00:03:59,628 --> 00:03:59,648\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n12\n00:04:40,458 --> 00:05:07,734\n所以我們一起來探討那我也很高興你實事求是的一個回答那我想在前總統蔡英文所提出的一個住宅三件目前我們看到改革房屋稅制以及健全租屋體制以及新辦社會住宅我們可以來探討幾個稅制的部分因為7月要開始囤房稅2.0實際的效果仍未知但是目前新清安貸款大家都覺得有點不妙最近還有這樣子的一個新聞報導說網路上的探討\n\n13\n00:05:09,735 --> 00:05:09,755\n﹚羅廷瑋\n\n14\n00:05:39,781 --> 00:06:06,061\n我想這個跟第二支建樓建權租屋體系有著類似的狀況我想租屋的爭議以及租賃的權益我們都持續的關注我想我也緊盯著租屋定型化的契約防範這個房東調漲電價這個部分我想之前也有其他的委員關心這一題那我希望這個定型化契約能夠趕緊出來但接著我要講的是第三支建新辦社會住宅\n\n15\n00:06:06,661 --> 00:06:30,536\n我想新辦社會住宅我想要分享幾個數據當然賴總統對於這一個百萬社宅的一個目標我們是很擔憂他的達成如何達成我們當然希望他能夠達成那再來我要看一下這些數據是從內政部不動產資訊平台社會住宅專區統計抓出來的我就不細談內部我就跟大家報告說實在話我覺得整個數據\n\n16\n00:06:32,958 --> 00:06:51,613\n有過於的美化那您聽聽看我覺得因為真正能住的只有既有加薪完工也就是說全國只有3336戶是民眾真正能夠住進去的占比整個全國住宅是0.32%\n\n17\n00:06:53,973 --> 00:07:13,968\n所以還有7萬2千零24戶是正在蓋根本還沒有蓋好所以跟實際民眾的差距跟落差是有的但是再者我看到內政部在2月23號的臉書有說中央在台中市新辦的社會住宅已達4千戶有嗎?\n\n18\n00:07:13,968 --> 00:07:17,410\n有那這個部分我要跟大家分享其中有一個點\n\n19\n00:07:19,277 --> 00:07:36,054\n國家住住中心推動龍井區的臺塘公營學院轉做社會住宅提供有就學就業居住的民眾可以來申請入住200多戶。﹖是﹖對吧?我想我要跟大家報告可是我們可以看一下全國住宅的這個新辦進度統計表\n\n20\n00:07:37,375 --> 00:07:56,781\n中央在臺中新完工的這個部分有203戶可是臺堂公營學院設宅改裝學生宿舍根本就是就不是新完工為什麼我要這樣講臺堂在100年就取得使用執照臺堂自營收租的一個宿舍宿舍早就在使用\n\n21\n00:07:57,341 --> 00:08:20,351\n只是去年加入了旅館公司有的房轉型社宅專案才轉為社會住宅使用所以從頭到尾我認為它不是新完工但是我們不居就於這細節但是院長我覺得這樣子應該把它分配到既有的那一項但是我要跟大家探討的是臺中市目前已完工2700\n\n22\n00:08:22,312 --> 00:08:23,113\n（6月25日（6月25日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。．羅廷瑋\n\n23\n00:08:38,390 --> 00:09:05,368\n院長可不可以給予一些獎勵的計畫措施鼓勵好學生再更認真鼓勵好學生協助我們賴清德總統所訂定的這目標可以在該縣市能夠更加大刀闊斧的進行。院長你怎麼看?感謝委員如果中央跟地方政府都能就某一個這樣人民所需要的政策能夠通力的合作這絕對是全民之福那地方做得好\n\n24\n00:09:06,707 --> 00:09:09,408\n我們很希望臺中市政府可以多提供我們一些土地\n\n25\n00:09:33,533 --> 00:09:33,553\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n26\n00:09:50,960 --> 00:10:16,836\n5%是先進國家的一個低標啦,剛剛都在講周邊國家嘛,6%的我們都,我是覺得臺灣目前是0.32啦,當然有人對於這個認知上有差距,沒關係,但我要講的是還是跟實際的低標有一定的差距。那本席想談的重點就是內政部的數據一直都是中央跟地方,但是我覺得不是只是單靠一方就能夠完成,院長你也能夠認同嘛,對不對,應該是共同來努力。\n\n27\n00:10:17,316 --> 00:10:34,697\n所以本席建議中央地方一起來協力,中央主導興建,中央可以盤點現有國有地,例如台塘,在台中扣除了農業區、山坡地、保留地、工業區等用地不能興建以外的,是不是能夠再來持續的盤點,有沒有其他的,台塘只是舉例。\n\n28\n00:10:35,518 --> 00:11:02,891\n有沒有其他的國有閒置土地來興建這一個社會住宅?第二,針對地方政府積極興建的部分我還是希望能夠再一次的來發聲是不是能給予這個所謂的地方政府的量能有限給予更多的資金預算這部分剛剛我想這個部長也有提到目前有針對一些補助下去當然我們希望能夠更加的多的預算因為台中市的表現其實我可以看到\n\n29\n00:11:03,791 --> 00:11:23,824\n的確是六都排名第二最後我想說是不是能夠有一些政策來做引誘的一個誘因那就是新建集合式的住宅隆基獎率可以要求挪移部分作為公益社會住宅以及公托公用親子館相關的等設施過去我們看到荷蘭的考察\n\n30\n00:11:24,304 --> 00:11:40,274\n荷蘭的一個項目大家都可以稱讚荷蘭他們的相關的政策比如說像其實荷蘭又更進一步公私造屋其實剛剛我們前一位委員也有提到這個部分鼓勵青年參與合作造屋的方向我想荷蘭這個部分我們還是可以實際有所參考\n\n31\n00:11:42,555 --> 00:12:02,454\n這部分我想臺灣社會住宅起步比較晚,很多東西沒有完全這麼成熟,但是藉近荷蘭的模式,破除大眾對於社會住宅的一個成見,形塑一個屬於臺灣新社區的文化,我想荷蘭的一個混居,透過這樣子的一個模式,我想院長針對以上的建議,院長有沒有機會回應一下,承諾。\n\n32\n00:12:03,576 --> 00:12:26,857\n這個新的區段徵收案期的規定必須要提供5%給直轄市、3%給非直轄市來侵犯社會住宅,這個已經是將來可行的方式之一。那至於說更多的公有土地或是一般可開發的土地,我們日前有請內政部來統籌把土地盤點,但這個土地要座落在可需要用的地方,而不是偏僻的。我請內政部說明。\n\n33\n00:12:28,978 --> 00:12:52,489\n對,剛剛羅委員所講的都非常正確,有些措施當中我再提供一個,就是住宅法裡面其實它是可以鼓勵私人的企業,私人的企業他如果願意留住員工,他也願意蓋社宅的話,我們也願意協助,那這樣子土地的取得就比較沒有問題。﹖對當然我就希望再誘因再更多﹖對,我們多管齊下來興建這個社會住宅,提供給年輕人比較多的居住正義的機會。\n\n34\n00:12:53,807 --> 00:13:10,414\n好,謝謝。另外我想再跟這個院長探討毒品防治的一個問題。院長我想在這一次的書面報告可以寫到這個落實五打七安政策,唆毒追人斷金流。那我想有幾個舉例跟這個新聞想跟您做一個探討。第一個,這個新聞呢,權力棄毒\n\n35\n00:13:13,035 --> 00:13:13,055\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n36\n00:13:33,931 --> 00:13:50,128\n三毒K的菸啊,相關的K毒人數啊,我們覺得有可能毒販是化整為零的方式帶貨,即使被查獲也只要罰錢。我想院長有沒有一個態度,我們之前20公克調整成5公克,有沒有機會再繼續更嚴格?\n\n37\n00:13:52,538 --> 00:14:09,361\n現在我們把打詐跟反毒列為相當重要的治安工作之一所以在法令上像打詐的釋法我們希望趕快通過在反毒的過程裡面對新興毒品必須要有一個毒品的審議能夠加速至於說\n\n38\n00:14:10,462 --> 00:14:14,526\n我想520之前我跟法務部長有探討過他也覺得這個所謂的K毒\n\n39\n00:14:30,621 --> 00:14:31,222\n新興毒品之冠3年205人死於喵喵\n\n40\n00:14:47,703 --> 00:14:59,774\n第三、依託米子被滲入電子煙稀時如同喪屍。（我想法務副讀審會已通過而列為讀品,現在走法制程序,後續要報行政院合併大概要花多少時間?\n\n41\n00:15:01,318 --> 00:15:22,631\n報告我來講一下我們其實預告的時間是15天那6月13號的時候已經召開毒品防治協會所以其實算上短的時間之內可能就可以公告最後我想講在98年間有一個食品添加威爾岡尾要開始盛行當時的行政院長吳敦義指示要由所謂的\n\n42\n00:15:46,127 --> 00:15:47,048\n謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢,也謝謝卓院長的備詢。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n150\t4070\t好,謝院長。有請院長。麻煩再請卓院長備詢。\n15056\t33917\t院長好,首先我要特別感謝行政院還有我們的內政部我們在持續爭取這個永續提升人行安全的計畫我這裡也有爭取到,也非常感謝因為臺中市政府有送案麻園頭溪南區的復興路以及東南區的建成路都有爭取到相關的計畫內容\n34898\t35358\t﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋\n65218\t88569\t將低收入戶使用公立的殯葬設施、火葬場以及納骨塔均免收使用管理相關的一個費用。但是呢我要跟你探討的是社會救助法第一條規定很清楚為照顧低收入戶、中低收入戶我們可以看到制定的這個本法他就是要把輔助救濟的對象有包含中低收\n89349\t117531\t所以我想截至現在112年第4季,全國約有28萬6千的中低收入戶,未不符合這樣子的一個殯葬管理條例。我想跟您爭取,院長,基於照顧弱勢,彰顯政府照顧中低收的國民是否評估商帳費用、火化及納骨塔塔位等所需經費中央編列來給予支持。雲林縣目前正在做。行政院可不可以有這個機會來演繹?\n119548\t143689\t報告委員這個有關於地方自治事項他必須有一個全國的一致性那現在呢中低收入戶總計有26萬餘人這個已經由地方政府在吸收這樣的一個費用是如果再納入中低收入戶那這個人數當然龐大當然同樣如果由地方政府來吸收的話那才是地方自治事項那是不是地方政府能夠去\n144710\t146771\t所以我希望透過這個這麼重要的一個質詢來跟您建議希望內政部能夠做一個考慮\n169839\t190366\t那當然第二個我想跟你探討的是有關於我們大家都在探討的社會住宅我想我以103年當這個分水嶺因為103年有所謂的潮運當時內政部統計全國的住宅價格指數99.07而現在第四季112年的第四季來到了136.2那我想孔子說32例\n192186\t217074\t我自己呢35歲我覺得這是一個人生的分水嶺我們在跑這個行程的時候很多有些跟我們差不多歲數的一些年輕人跟我們分享不敢結婚不敢生薪水比不上其他的國家房價持續的攀升對他們來說高不可攀負擔非常的重院長就你自己對自己觀察你對這個房價的觀察房市的觀察你覺得有沒有還漲甚至有降價\n218742\t239148\t當然這個因為都會化的行程公共建設的加強是乃至於整個建築成本的提高以及很多專業區科技園區的產生周遭帶動的一個土地的需求房屋的需求等等以及在這個建商他們用很多的行銷的手法\n239628\t239648\t﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n265367\t280418\t．瑋\n280458\t307734\t所以我們一起來探討那我也很高興你實事求是的一個回答那我想在前總統蔡英文所提出的一個住宅三件目前我們看到改革房屋稅制以及健全租屋體制以及新辦社會住宅我們可以來探討幾個稅制的部分因為7月要開始囤房稅2.0實際的效果仍未知但是目前新清安貸款大家都覺得有點不妙最近還有這樣子的一個新聞報導說網路上的探討\n309735\t309755\t﹚羅廷瑋\n339781\t366061\t我想這個跟第二支建樓建權租屋體系有著類似的狀況我想租屋的爭議以及租賃的權益我們都持續的關注我想我也緊盯著租屋定型化的契約防範這個房東調漲電價這個部分我想之前也有其他的委員關心這一題那我希望這個定型化契約能夠趕緊出來但接著我要講的是第三支建新辦社會住宅\n366661\t390536\t我想新辦社會住宅我想要分享幾個數據當然賴總統對於這一個百萬社宅的一個目標我們是很擔憂他的達成如何達成我們當然希望他能夠達成那再來我要看一下這些數據是從內政部不動產資訊平台社會住宅專區統計抓出來的我就不細談內部我就跟大家報告說實在話我覺得整個數據\n392958\t411613\t有過於的美化那您聽聽看我覺得因為真正能住的只有既有加薪完工也就是說全國只有3336戶是民眾真正能夠住進去的占比整個全國住宅是0.32%\n413973\t433968\t所以還有7萬2千零24戶是正在蓋根本還沒有蓋好所以跟實際民眾的差距跟落差是有的但是再者我看到內政部在2月23號的臉書有說中央在台中市新辦的社會住宅已達4千戶有嗎?\n433968\t437410\t有那這個部分我要跟大家分享其中有一個點\n439277\t456054\t國家住住中心推動龍井區的臺塘公營學院轉做社會住宅提供有就學就業居住的民眾可以來申請入住200多戶。﹖是﹖對吧?我想我要跟大家報告可是我們可以看一下全國住宅的這個新辦進度統計表\n457375\t476781\t中央在臺中新完工的這個部分有203戶可是臺堂公營學院設宅改裝學生宿舍根本就是就不是新完工為什麼我要這樣講臺堂在100年就取得使用執照臺堂自營收租的一個宿舍宿舍早就在使用\n477341\t500351\t只是去年加入了旅館公司有的房轉型社宅專案才轉為社會住宅使用所以從頭到尾我認為它不是新完工但是我們不居就於這細節但是院長我覺得這樣子應該把它分配到既有的那一項但是我要跟大家探討的是臺中市目前已完工2700\n502312\t503113\t（6月25日（6月25日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。．羅廷瑋\n518390\t545368\t院長可不可以給予一些獎勵的計畫措施鼓勵好學生再更認真鼓勵好學生協助我們賴清德總統所訂定的這目標可以在該縣市能夠更加大刀闊斧的進行。 院長你怎麼看?感謝委員如果中央跟地方政府都能就某一個這樣人民所需要的政策能夠通力的合作這絕對是全民之福那地方做得好\n546707\t549408\t我們很希望臺中市政府可以多提供我們一些土地\n573533\t573553\t﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n590960\t616836\t5%是先進國家的一個低標啦,剛剛都在講周邊國家嘛,6%的我們都,我是覺得臺灣目前是0.32啦,當然有人對於這個認知上有差距,沒關係,但我要講的是還是跟實際的低標有一定的差距。那本席想談的重點就是內政部的數據一直都是中央跟地方,但是我覺得不是只是單靠一方就能夠完成,院長你也能夠認同嘛,對不對,應該是共同來努力。\n617316\t634697\t所以本席建議中央地方一起來協力,中央主導興建,中央可以盤點現有國有地,例如台塘,在台中扣除了農業區、山坡地、保留地、工業區等用地不能興建以外的,是不是能夠再來持續的盤點,有沒有其他的,台塘只是舉例。\n635518\t662891\t有沒有其他的國有閒置土地來興建這一個社會住宅?第二,針對地方政府積極興建的部分我還是希望能夠再一次的來發聲是不是能給予這個所謂的地方政府的量能有限給予更多的資金預算這部分剛剛我想這個部長也有提到目前有針對一些補助下去當然我們希望能夠更加的多的預算因為台中市的表現其實我可以看到\n663791\t683824\t的確是六都排名第二最後我想說是不是能夠有一些政策來做引誘的一個誘因那就是新建集合式的住宅隆基獎率可以要求挪移部分作為公益社會住宅以及公托公用親子館相關的等設施過去我們看到荷蘭的考察\n684304\t700274\t荷蘭的一個項目大家都可以稱讚荷蘭他們的相關的政策比如說像其實荷蘭又更進一步公私造屋其實剛剛我們前一位委員也有提到這個部分鼓勵青年參與合作造屋的方向我想荷蘭這個部分我們還是可以實際有所參考\n702555\t722454\t這部分我想臺灣社會住宅起步比較晚,很多東西沒有完全這麼成熟,但是藉近荷蘭的模式,破除大眾對於社會住宅的一個成見,形塑一個屬於臺灣新社區的文化,我想荷蘭的一個混居,透過這樣子的一個模式,我想院長針對以上的建議,院長有沒有機會回應一下,承諾。\n723576\t746857\t這個新的區段徵收案期的規定必須要提供5%給直轄市、3%給非直轄市來侵犯社會住宅,這個已經是將來可行的方式之一。那至於說更多的公有土地或是一般可開發的土地,我們日前有請內政部來統籌把土地盤點,但這個土地要座落在可需要用的地方,而不是偏僻的。我請內政部說明。\n748978\t772489\t對,剛剛羅委員所講的都非常正確,有些措施當中我再提供一個,就是住宅法裡面其實它是可以鼓勵私人的企業,私人的企業他如果願意留住員工,他也願意蓋社宅的話,我們也願意協助,那這樣子土地的取得就比較沒有問題。﹖對當然我就希望再誘因再更多﹖對,我們多管齊下來興建這個社會住宅,提供給年輕人比較多的居住正義的機會。\n773807\t790414\t好,謝謝。另外我想再跟這個院長探討毒品防治的一個問題。 院長我想在這一次的書面報告可以寫到這個落實五打七安政策,唆毒追人斷金流。 那我想有幾個舉例跟這個新聞想跟您做一個探討。 第一個,這個新聞呢,權力棄毒\n793035\t793055\t﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n813931\t830128\t三毒K的菸啊,相關的K毒人數啊,我們覺得有可能毒販是化整為零的方式帶貨,即使被查獲也只要罰錢。我想院長有沒有一個態度,我們之前20公克調整成5公克,有沒有機會再繼續更嚴格?\n832538\t849361\t現在我們把打詐跟反毒列為相當重要的治安工作之一所以在法令上像打詐的釋法我們希望趕快通過在反毒的過程裡面對新興毒品必須要有一個毒品的審議能夠加速至於說\n850462\t854526\t我想520之前我跟法務部長有探討過他也覺得這個所謂的K毒\n870621\t871222\t新興毒品之冠3年205人死於喵喵\n887703\t899774\t第三、依託米子被滲入電子煙稀時如同喪屍。（我想法務副讀審會已通過而列為讀品,現在走法制程序,後續要報行政院合併大概要花多少時間?\n901318\t922631\t報告我來講一下我們其實預告的時間是15天那6月13號的時候已經召開毒品防治協會所以其實算上短的時間之內可能就可以公告最後我想講在98年間有一個食品添加威爾岡尾要開始盛行當時的行政院長吳敦義指示要由所謂的\n946127\t947048\t謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢,也謝謝卓院長的備詢。\n","txt":"好,謝院長。有請院長。麻煩再請卓院長備詢。\n院長好,首先我要特別感謝行政院還有我們的內政部我們在持續爭取這個永續提升人行安全的計畫我這裡也有爭取到,也非常感謝因為臺中市政府有送案麻園頭溪南區的復興路以及東南區的建成路都有爭取到相關的計畫內容\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋\n將低收入戶使用公立的殯葬設施、火葬場以及納骨塔均免收使用管理相關的一個費用。但是呢我要跟你探討的是社會救助法第一條規定很清楚為照顧低收入戶、中低收入戶我們可以看到制定的這個本法他就是要把輔助救濟的對象有包含中低收\n所以我想截至現在112年第4季,全國約有28萬6千的中低收入戶,未不符合這樣子的一個殯葬管理條例。我想跟您爭取,院長,基於照顧弱勢,彰顯政府照顧中低收的國民是否評估商帳費用、火化及納骨塔塔位等所需經費中央編列來給予支持。雲林縣目前正在做。行政院可不可以有這個機會來演繹?\n報告委員這個有關於地方自治事項他必須有一個全國的一致性那現在呢中低收入戶總計有26萬餘人這個已經由地方政府在吸收這樣的一個費用是如果再納入中低收入戶那這個人數當然龐大當然同樣如果由地方政府來吸收的話那才是地方自治事項那是不是地方政府能夠去\n所以我希望透過這個這麼重要的一個質詢來跟您建議希望內政部能夠做一個考慮\n那當然第二個我想跟你探討的是有關於我們大家都在探討的社會住宅我想我以103年當這個分水嶺因為103年有所謂的潮運當時內政部統計全國的住宅價格指數99.07而現在第四季112年的第四季來到了136.2那我想孔子說32例\n我自己呢35歲我覺得這是一個人生的分水嶺我們在跑這個行程的時候很多有些跟我們差不多歲數的一些年輕人跟我們分享不敢結婚不敢生薪水比不上其他的國家房價持續的攀升對他們來說高不可攀負擔非常的重院長就你自己對自己觀察你對這個房價的觀察房市的觀察你覺得有沒有還漲甚至有降價\n當然這個因為都會化的行程公共建設的加強是乃至於整個建築成本的提高以及很多專業區科技園區的產生周遭帶動的一個土地的需求房屋的需求等等以及在這個建商他們用很多的行銷的手法\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n．瑋\n所以我們一起來探討那我也很高興你實事求是的一個回答那我想在前總統蔡英文所提出的一個住宅三件目前我們看到改革房屋稅制以及健全租屋體制以及新辦社會住宅我們可以來探討幾個稅制的部分因為7月要開始囤房稅2.0實際的效果仍未知但是目前新清安貸款大家都覺得有點不妙最近還有這樣子的一個新聞報導說網路上的探討\n﹚羅廷瑋\n我想這個跟第二支建樓建權租屋體系有著類似的狀況我想租屋的爭議以及租賃的權益我們都持續的關注我想我也緊盯著租屋定型化的契約防範這個房東調漲電價這個部分我想之前也有其他的委員關心這一題那我希望這個定型化契約能夠趕緊出來但接著我要講的是第三支建新辦社會住宅\n我想新辦社會住宅我想要分享幾個數據當然賴總統對於這一個百萬社宅的一個目標我們是很擔憂他的達成如何達成我們當然希望他能夠達成那再來我要看一下這些數據是從內政部不動產資訊平台社會住宅專區統計抓出來的我就不細談內部我就跟大家報告說實在話我覺得整個數據\n有過於的美化那您聽聽看我覺得因為真正能住的只有既有加薪完工也就是說全國只有3336戶是民眾真正能夠住進去的占比整個全國住宅是0.32%\n所以還有7萬2千零24戶是正在蓋根本還沒有蓋好所以跟實際民眾的差距跟落差是有的但是再者我看到內政部在2月23號的臉書有說中央在台中市新辦的社會住宅已達4千戶有嗎?\n有那這個部分我要跟大家分享其中有一個點\n國家住住中心推動龍井區的臺塘公營學院轉做社會住宅提供有就學就業居住的民眾可以來申請入住200多戶。﹖是﹖對吧?我想我要跟大家報告可是我們可以看一下全國住宅的這個新辦進度統計表\n中央在臺中新完工的這個部分有203戶可是臺堂公營學院設宅改裝學生宿舍根本就是就不是新完工為什麼我要這樣講臺堂在100年就取得使用執照臺堂自營收租的一個宿舍宿舍早就在使用\n只是去年加入了旅館公司有的房轉型社宅專案才轉為社會住宅使用所以從頭到尾我認為它不是新完工但是我們不居就於這細節但是院長我覺得這樣子應該把它分配到既有的那一項但是我要跟大家探討的是臺中市目前已完工2700\n（6月25日（6月25日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。．羅廷瑋\n院長可不可以給予一些獎勵的計畫措施鼓勵好學生再更認真鼓勵好學生協助我們賴清德總統所訂定的這目標可以在該縣市能夠更加大刀闊斧的進行。 院長你怎麼看?感謝委員如果中央跟地方政府都能就某一個這樣人民所需要的政策能夠通力的合作這絕對是全民之福那地方做得好\n我們很希望臺中市政府可以多提供我們一些土地\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n5%是先進國家的一個低標啦,剛剛都在講周邊國家嘛,6%的我們都,我是覺得臺灣目前是0.32啦,當然有人對於這個認知上有差距,沒關係,但我要講的是還是跟實際的低標有一定的差距。那本席想談的重點就是內政部的數據一直都是中央跟地方,但是我覺得不是只是單靠一方就能夠完成,院長你也能夠認同嘛,對不對,應該是共同來努力。\n所以本席建議中央地方一起來協力,中央主導興建,中央可以盤點現有國有地,例如台塘,在台中扣除了農業區、山坡地、保留地、工業區等用地不能興建以外的,是不是能夠再來持續的盤點,有沒有其他的,台塘只是舉例。\n有沒有其他的國有閒置土地來興建這一個社會住宅?第二,針對地方政府積極興建的部分我還是希望能夠再一次的來發聲是不是能給予這個所謂的地方政府的量能有限給予更多的資金預算這部分剛剛我想這個部長也有提到目前有針對一些補助下去當然我們希望能夠更加的多的預算因為台中市的表現其實我可以看到\n的確是六都排名第二最後我想說是不是能夠有一些政策來做引誘的一個誘因那就是新建集合式的住宅隆基獎率可以要求挪移部分作為公益社會住宅以及公托公用親子館相關的等設施過去我們看到荷蘭的考察\n荷蘭的一個項目大家都可以稱讚荷蘭他們的相關的政策比如說像其實荷蘭又更進一步公私造屋其實剛剛我們前一位委員也有提到這個部分鼓勵青年參與合作造屋的方向我想荷蘭這個部分我們還是可以實際有所參考\n這部分我想臺灣社會住宅起步比較晚,很多東西沒有完全這麼成熟,但是藉近荷蘭的模式,破除大眾對於社會住宅的一個成見,形塑一個屬於臺灣新社區的文化,我想荷蘭的一個混居,透過這樣子的一個模式,我想院長針對以上的建議,院長有沒有機會回應一下,承諾。\n這個新的區段徵收案期的規定必須要提供5%給直轄市、3%給非直轄市來侵犯社會住宅,這個已經是將來可行的方式之一。那至於說更多的公有土地或是一般可開發的土地,我們日前有請內政部來統籌把土地盤點,但這個土地要座落在可需要用的地方,而不是偏僻的。我請內政部說明。\n對,剛剛羅委員所講的都非常正確,有些措施當中我再提供一個,就是住宅法裡面其實它是可以鼓勵私人的企業,私人的企業他如果願意留住員工,他也願意蓋社宅的話,我們也願意協助,那這樣子土地的取得就比較沒有問題。﹖對當然我就希望再誘因再更多﹖對,我們多管齊下來興建這個社會住宅,提供給年輕人比較多的居住正義的機會。\n好,謝謝。另外我想再跟這個院長探討毒品防治的一個問題。 院長我想在這一次的書面報告可以寫到這個落實五打七安政策,唆毒追人斷金流。 那我想有幾個舉例跟這個新聞想跟您做一個探討。 第一個,這個新聞呢,權力棄毒\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n三毒K的菸啊,相關的K毒人數啊,我們覺得有可能毒販是化整為零的方式帶貨,即使被查獲也只要罰錢。我想院長有沒有一個態度,我們之前20公克調整成5公克,有沒有機會再繼續更嚴格?\n現在我們把打詐跟反毒列為相當重要的治安工作之一所以在法令上像打詐的釋法我們希望趕快通過在反毒的過程裡面對新興毒品必須要有一個毒品的審議能夠加速至於說\n我想520之前我跟法務部長有探討過他也覺得這個所謂的K毒\n新興毒品之冠3年205人死於喵喵\n第三、依託米子被滲入電子煙稀時如同喪屍。（我想法務副讀審會已通過而列為讀品,現在走法制程序,後續要報行政院合併大概要花多少時間?\n報告我來講一下我們其實預告的時間是15天那6月13號的時候已經召開毒品防治協會所以其實算上短的時間之內可能就可以公告最後我想講在98年間有一個食品添加威爾岡尾要開始盛行當時的行政院長吳敦義指示要由所謂的\n謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢,也謝謝卓院長的備詢。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.150 --> 00:04.070\n好,謝院長。有請院長。麻煩再請卓院長備詢。\n\n00:15.056 --> 00:33.917\n院長好,首先我要特別感謝行政院還有我們的內政部我們在持續爭取這個永續提升人行安全的計畫我這裡也有爭取到,也非常感謝因為臺中市政府有送案麻園頭溪南區的復興路以及東南區的建成路都有爭取到相關的計畫內容\n\n00:34.898 --> 00:35.358\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋﹚羅廷瑋\n\n01:05.218 --> 01:28.569\n將低收入戶使用公立的殯葬設施、火葬場以及納骨塔均免收使用管理相關的一個費用。但是呢我要跟你探討的是社會救助法第一條規定很清楚為照顧低收入戶、中低收入戶我們可以看到制定的這個本法他就是要把輔助救濟的對象有包含中低收\n\n01:29.349 --> 01:57.531\n所以我想截至現在112年第4季,全國約有28萬6千的中低收入戶,未不符合這樣子的一個殯葬管理條例。我想跟您爭取,院長,基於照顧弱勢,彰顯政府照顧中低收的國民是否評估商帳費用、火化及納骨塔塔位等所需經費中央編列來給予支持。雲林縣目前正在做。行政院可不可以有這個機會來演繹?\n\n01:59.548 --> 02:23.689\n報告委員這個有關於地方自治事項他必須有一個全國的一致性那現在呢中低收入戶總計有26萬餘人這個已經由地方政府在吸收這樣的一個費用是如果再納入中低收入戶那這個人數當然龐大當然同樣如果由地方政府來吸收的話那才是地方自治事項那是不是地方政府能夠去\n\n02:24.710 --> 02:26.771\n所以我希望透過這個這麼重要的一個質詢來跟您建議希望內政部能夠做一個考慮\n\n02:49.839 --> 03:10.366\n那當然第二個我想跟你探討的是有關於我們大家都在探討的社會住宅我想我以103年當這個分水嶺因為103年有所謂的潮運當時內政部統計全國的住宅價格指數99.07而現在第四季112年的第四季來到了136.2那我想孔子說32例\n\n03:12.186 --> 03:37.074\n我自己呢35歲我覺得這是一個人生的分水嶺我們在跑這個行程的時候很多有些跟我們差不多歲數的一些年輕人跟我們分享不敢結婚不敢生薪水比不上其他的國家房價持續的攀升對他們來說高不可攀負擔非常的重院長就你自己對自己觀察你對這個房價的觀察房市的觀察你覺得有沒有還漲甚至有降價\n\n03:38.742 --> 03:59.148\n當然這個因為都會化的行程公共建設的加強是乃至於整個建築成本的提高以及很多專業區科技園區的產生周遭帶動的一個土地的需求房屋的需求等等以及在這個建商他們用很多的行銷的手法\n\n03:59.628 --> 03:59.648\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n04:40.458 --> 05:07.734\n所以我們一起來探討那我也很高興你實事求是的一個回答那我想在前總統蔡英文所提出的一個住宅三件目前我們看到改革房屋稅制以及健全租屋體制以及新辦社會住宅我們可以來探討幾個稅制的部分因為7月要開始囤房稅2.0實際的效果仍未知但是目前新清安貸款大家都覺得有點不妙最近還有這樣子的一個新聞報導說網路上的探討\n\n05:09.735 --> 05:09.755\n﹚羅廷瑋\n\n05:39.781 --> 06:06.061\n我想這個跟第二支建樓建權租屋體系有著類似的狀況我想租屋的爭議以及租賃的權益我們都持續的關注我想我也緊盯著租屋定型化的契約防範這個房東調漲電價這個部分我想之前也有其他的委員關心這一題那我希望這個定型化契約能夠趕緊出來但接著我要講的是第三支建新辦社會住宅\n\n06:06.661 --> 06:30.536\n我想新辦社會住宅我想要分享幾個數據當然賴總統對於這一個百萬社宅的一個目標我們是很擔憂他的達成如何達成我們當然希望他能夠達成那再來我要看一下這些數據是從內政部不動產資訊平台社會住宅專區統計抓出來的我就不細談內部我就跟大家報告說實在話我覺得整個數據\n\n06:32.958 --> 06:51.613\n有過於的美化那您聽聽看我覺得因為真正能住的只有既有加薪完工也就是說全國只有3336戶是民眾真正能夠住進去的占比整個全國住宅是0.32%\n\n06:53.973 --> 07:13.968\n所以還有7萬2千零24戶是正在蓋根本還沒有蓋好所以跟實際民眾的差距跟落差是有的但是再者我看到內政部在2月23號的臉書有說中央在台中市新辦的社會住宅已達4千戶有嗎?\n\n07:13.968 --> 07:17.410\n有那這個部分我要跟大家分享其中有一個點\n\n07:19.277 --> 07:36.054\n國家住住中心推動龍井區的臺塘公營學院轉做社會住宅提供有就學就業居住的民眾可以來申請入住200多戶。﹖是﹖對吧?我想我要跟大家報告可是我們可以看一下全國住宅的這個新辦進度統計表\n\n07:37.375 --> 07:56.781\n中央在臺中新完工的這個部分有203戶可是臺堂公營學院設宅改裝學生宿舍根本就是就不是新完工為什麼我要這樣講臺堂在100年就取得使用執照臺堂自營收租的一個宿舍宿舍早就在使用\n\n07:57.341 --> 08:20.351\n只是去年加入了旅館公司有的房轉型社宅專案才轉為社會住宅使用所以從頭到尾我認為它不是新完工但是我們不居就於這細節但是院長我覺得這樣子應該把它分配到既有的那一項但是我要跟大家探討的是臺中市目前已完工2700\n\n08:22.312 --> 08:23.113\n（6月25日（6月25日下午1時50分為處理臨時提案時間。．羅廷瑋\n\n08:38.390 --> 09:05.368\n院長可不可以給予一些獎勵的計畫措施鼓勵好學生再更認真鼓勵好學生協助我們賴清德總統所訂定的這目標可以在該縣市能夠更加大刀闊斧的進行。院長你怎麼看?感謝委員如果中央跟地方政府都能就某一個這樣人民所需要的政策能夠通力的合作這絕對是全民之福那地方做得好\n\n09:06.707 --> 09:09.408\n我們很希望臺中市政府可以多提供我們一些土地\n\n09:33.533 --> 09:33.553\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n09:50.960 --> 10:16.836\n5%是先進國家的一個低標啦,剛剛都在講周邊國家嘛,6%的我們都,我是覺得臺灣目前是0.32啦,當然有人對於這個認知上有差距,沒關係,但我要講的是還是跟實際的低標有一定的差距。那本席想談的重點就是內政部的數據一直都是中央跟地方,但是我覺得不是只是單靠一方就能夠完成,院長你也能夠認同嘛,對不對,應該是共同來努力。\n\n10:17.316 --> 10:34.697\n所以本席建議中央地方一起來協力,中央主導興建,中央可以盤點現有國有地,例如台塘,在台中扣除了農業區、山坡地、保留地、工業區等用地不能興建以外的,是不是能夠再來持續的盤點,有沒有其他的,台塘只是舉例。\n\n10:35.518 --> 11:02.891\n有沒有其他的國有閒置土地來興建這一個社會住宅?第二,針對地方政府積極興建的部分我還是希望能夠再一次的來發聲是不是能給予這個所謂的地方政府的量能有限給予更多的資金預算這部分剛剛我想這個部長也有提到目前有針對一些補助下去當然我們希望能夠更加的多的預算因為台中市的表現其實我可以看到\n\n11:03.791 --> 11:23.824\n的確是六都排名第二最後我想說是不是能夠有一些政策來做引誘的一個誘因那就是新建集合式的住宅隆基獎率可以要求挪移部分作為公益社會住宅以及公托公用親子館相關的等設施過去我們看到荷蘭的考察\n\n11:24.304 --> 11:40.274\n荷蘭的一個項目大家都可以稱讚荷蘭他們的相關的政策比如說像其實荷蘭又更進一步公私造屋其實剛剛我們前一位委員也有提到這個部分鼓勵青年參與合作造屋的方向我想荷蘭這個部分我們還是可以實際有所參考\n\n11:42.555 --> 12:02.454\n這部分我想臺灣社會住宅起步比較晚,很多東西沒有完全這麼成熟,但是藉近荷蘭的模式,破除大眾對於社會住宅的一個成見,形塑一個屬於臺灣新社區的文化,我想荷蘭的一個混居,透過這樣子的一個模式,我想院長針對以上的建議,院長有沒有機會回應一下,承諾。\n\n12:03.576 --> 12:26.857\n這個新的區段徵收案期的規定必須要提供5%給直轄市、3%給非直轄市來侵犯社會住宅,這個已經是將來可行的方式之一。那至於說更多的公有土地或是一般可開發的土地,我們日前有請內政部來統籌把土地盤點,但這個土地要座落在可需要用的地方,而不是偏僻的。我請內政部說明。\n\n12:28.978 --> 12:52.489\n對,剛剛羅委員所講的都非常正確,有些措施當中我再提供一個,就是住宅法裡面其實它是可以鼓勵私人的企業,私人的企業他如果願意留住員工,他也願意蓋社宅的話,我們也願意協助,那這樣子土地的取得就比較沒有問題。﹖對當然我就希望再誘因再更多﹖對,我們多管齊下來興建這個社會住宅,提供給年輕人比較多的居住正義的機會。\n\n12:53.807 --> 13:10.414\n好,謝謝。另外我想再跟這個院長探討毒品防治的一個問題。院長我想在這一次的書面報告可以寫到這個落實五打七安政策,唆毒追人斷金流。那我想有幾個舉例跟這個新聞想跟您做一個探討。第一個,這個新聞呢,權力棄毒\n\n13:13.035 --> 13:13.055\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n\n13:33.931 --> 13:50.128\n三毒K的菸啊,相關的K毒人數啊,我們覺得有可能毒販是化整為零的方式帶貨,即使被查獲也只要罰錢。我想院長有沒有一個態度,我們之前20公克調整成5公克,有沒有機會再繼續更嚴格?\n\n13:52.538 --> 14:09.361\n現在我們把打詐跟反毒列為相當重要的治安工作之一所以在法令上像打詐的釋法我們希望趕快通過在反毒的過程裡面對新興毒品必須要有一個毒品的審議能夠加速至於說\n\n14:10.462 --> 14:14.526\n我想520之前我跟法務部長有探討過他也覺得這個所謂的K毒\n\n14:30.621 --> 14:31.222\n新興毒品之冠3年205人死於喵喵\n\n14:47.703 --> 14:59.774\n第三、依託米子被滲入電子煙稀時如同喪屍。（我想法務副讀審會已通過而列為讀品,現在走法制程序,後續要報行政院合併大概要花多少時間?\n\n15:01.318 --> 15:22.631\n報告我來講一下我們其實預告的時間是15天那6月13號的時候已經召開毒品防治協會所以其實算上短的時間之內可能就可以公告最後我想講在98年間有一個食品添加威爾岡尾要開始盛行當時的行政院長吳敦義指示要由所謂的\n\n15:46.127 --> 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