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00:03:32,619\n剛剛你提的任職作戰是對著是這樣的議題而不是任職作戰是今天用一些不少的一個宣講針對傅昆吉或是我們韓院長的這樣的一個任職作戰是說他是代為我們習近平的這些代言人我說這樣的一個做法民進黨這樣的一個策略這樣會\n\n10\n00:03:34,359 --> 00:03:51,090\n會造成了我們國內的團結。那另外就是說,認知作戰不是對內,我們應該是共同對外,如何防範這一些將以後對我們國家危及到安全才是這樣的一個議題啊,是吧?\n\n11\n00:03:55,172 --> 00:04:06,296\n我想我們面對中國可能的認知作戰,我們都隨時要有警惕跟切心。我們要這裡呼籲的是避免中國藉由認知作戰來\n\n12\n00:04:09,443 --> 00:04:09,463\n﹚黃仁﹚\n\n13\n00:04:28,119 --> 00:04:52,398\n請教你一個這樣的一個任職作戰的一個議題就是讓國人知道不是民進黨在外面宣講的這樣的問題那另外就是我對潛艦國造的期程請問一下部長海昆艦目前已進行了破港的測試破港的情況有順利嗎那另外有消息指出\n\n14\n00:04:53,098 --> 00:05:14,430\n光電的尾港五月底已經到貨到現在已經將近一個月了那是否已經完成破港測試何時會進入到海上的測試因為尾港是一個非常重要的一個光電尾港是一個非常重要的一個儀器\n\n15\n00:05:17,111 --> 00:05:44,166\n部長你來回答一下我的了解是都已經交運完畢了那也現在正在進行博港的測試那麼都有依照相關的節點來進行那我沒有辦法在這裡跟委員說明說在博港測試大概什麼時候會完畢但是一旦博港測試完成之後就接續會進行海上測試我想這個都依照相關的節點因為我必須本席提醒我們部長\n\n16\n00:05:45,387 --> 00:06:10,792\n根據過去各國潛艦造艦的期程,沿行艦從下水到沉浸至少要兩年以上。而像日本這樣的一個工業大國,參隆級潛艦從下水到沉浸也花了大約一年半的時間。海昆艦在去年的9月底命名為下水,我們最首次造潛艦,\n\n17\n00:06:13,297 --> 00:06:30,418\n其間部分的裝備又延遲按照理論上跟比起其他的國家更多的時間才能成軍本席提醒這個僭建國造一定要以安全為率為優先千萬不要趕進度\n\n18\n00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:34,671\n海昆號的海上的進行測試的時候,你們願意登艦一起下這個潛艦測試嗎?\n\n19\n00:06:56,451 --> 00:06:57,252\n臺船董事長鄭文榮也表達了\n\n20\n00:07:18,388 --> 00:07:45,628\n他會登見見證海昆的潛艦在各式測試項目黃淑匡可能也會共同登見出海見證歷史性的一刻海昆線下艦的最重要的里程碑本期建議時任的院長和部長應該要主動參與下艦測試以提高國人潛艦的國造的一個信心\n\n21\n00:07:46,144 --> 00:07:47,534\n也提贈國金\n\n22\n00:07:50,185 --> 00:08:16,622\n我認為相關的海事這個是屬於專業的,不是我們要去院長或者部長要去做秀的一個地方。是,我們報告淺建的完成代表國家一個非常重要的軍事的發展的階段。我們應該用很慎重來看它。在建上的所有官兵都是國家賦予重責大任的一時之選。測試的過程當中也許工程的測試是另外一種,但正式的\n\n23\n00:08:17,799 --> 00:08:38,109\n下海這個下潛這個測試那絕對是一個很重要的行為所以不是我們去那邊告訴大家說我們願意來的這個情況我想我本人或許部長也應該我們沒有這個能力的資格﹖今天國軍國軍的士氣每況夜下﹖我們可以從其他方式來讓國軍認為我們跟他站在一起﹖那應該應該你們也有所作為\n\n24\n00:08:38,849 --> 00:09:03,126\n要站在國軍的角度裡面提升國軍的士氣應該要勇於去面對或是是...我們會適時的來發布相關的這個測試的狀況。你是新任你應該發表表達更有力更讓國軍能夠覺得士氣的高昂那另外就是有關於聯合力艦2024A\n\n25\n00:09:05,948 --> 00:09:23,070\n中共到今年的5月23日進行聯合立憲2024A的經驗請問一下部長在這裡在遠溪區城市示意圖裡面哪一個訓練區最為值得關注你看一下這個\n\n26\n00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:45,678\n跟委員報告他這一次2024歷經演習A他只有畫了一個一個那個演習區的一個大致上的一個圖他並沒有標示正確的經緯度所以事實上他演習的區域跟他現在標記的位置也沒有完全的重疊這一個就是讓你眾生\n\n27\n00:09:47,187 --> 00:10:15,594\n這個縱深的意義是什麼是從西到東部他縱深裡面是臺灣因為和大陸距離太近暫時的前線後方難以區分必須要用各種方式創造部隊的緩衝空間這個空間就是縱深縱深從西部到東部劃掉一道線這個就是一個非常重要的一個戰略的一個線這是我要讓\n\n28\n00:10:16,687 --> 00:10:35,369\n我讓部長知道,那有關於本期發現這個國防部刻意淡化這一次的聯合力氣2024A在威脅性在這一張演習區示意圖裡面最值得關注的就是花蓮外海的演習區,它正面\n\n29\n00:10:37,892 --> 00:10:51,451\n．山基地是國軍戰力保存的重中之重。之前在民進黨政府有大號喜功已經是在斐洛西反台的時候\n\n30\n00:10:52,973 --> 00:11:12,404\n我們國際戰力我們的海峽中線已經弄丟了弄丟了所以這個是非常嚴重非常嚴重那另外6月13號共經無人機也抵抵近花蓮海外海39海里讓我們利用他\n\n31\n00:11:13,359 --> 00:11:41,625\n地形的優勢建立了戰力保存在受到威脅部長如果搞不清楚狀況的話事態將會非常的嚴重我們從來沒有輕忽這個您講的這個歷屆演習他不管是用示意圖的方式或是他在相關的實際作為上面對我們來參與我們來調整這一個國土防衛構想的一個重要的參與這個我想我們高度的重視在之前這個\n\n32\n00:11:43,405 --> 00:11:47,686\n當然我們戰力保存是我們在演練的第一個所要的重點當然接下來還有整體防空、海上聯合階級等等\n\n33\n00:12:12,291 --> 00:12:13,011\n另外我這特別要講的齁\n\n34\n00:12:38,187 --> 00:13:04,522\n這一些車輛更改設定後的檢測都正常嗎?不正常。第二個用來更改車輛設定的設備是否符合規定規範?不會符合。那另外據了解提供戰鬥模式設定服務的某個廠商在未經原廠授權下私下採用紅色令大陸製作的設備以\n\n35\n00:13:07,203 --> 00:13:30,176\n三載版的設定軟體經行為國新提供服務。部長,你知道這個事情,你要調查清楚啊。跟委員報告,那個我們已經完成車輛戰鬥模式的設定,可以在尿素缺乏的時候呢,車輛的性能不受限制。那另外也建立了尿素的存量跟持續性合約上來籌補。\n\n36\n00:13:31,176 --> 00:13:35,700\n我剛剛已經提出了有大陸的大陸的產品在裡面就紅色鏈所以這個就是你們最反對的那所以你們要了解清楚那另外是這一張圖你看一下\n\n37\n00:13:56,796 --> 00:14:16,203\n這是原生科技公司的簡介上面清楚寫道深圳市原生科技股份有限公司成立於1992年臺灣則有設立分公司這是一個非常嚴重的事情影響國安的案件本席要求國防部第一個\n\n38\n00:14:17,653 --> 00:14:45,461\n二、調查該大陸設備與軟體是否植入非法城市有相關的議題。（6月25日（車輛相關軍用車輛上國防如何補救。（6月25日（第二目前已提供戰鬥模式設定服務廠商其報價落差每輛車輛新台幣一萬兩千六至六千兩百\n\n39\n00:14:46,841 --> 00:15:13,630\n六萬兩千七百等不等報價差距高達五倍。軍方是否落實來詢價而且調查這樣的一個問題因為這是非常嚴重因為我這邊已經調查清楚麻煩你們在一個禮拜內把這些細數的報告要給本席作為追溯未來是否有引用這個黃色鏈\n\n40\n00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,981\n這個部分我下來瞭解一下以後,馬上跟委員回應。好,謝謝。謝謝黃仁委員的質詢,謝謝卓院長的備詢,國防部備詢,謝謝。接下來我們請登記第三號林郡縣委員改書\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3480\t26930\t謝謝主席﹖有請我們卓院長﹖待會再請我們國防部部長﹖再請卓院長備詢﹖請國防部部長備詢﹖黃委員好﹖你好﹖再一次的跟你在第二次的執行喔﹖那關於韓國瑜院長及傅坤熙總召﹖\n27754\t45803\t受習近平的指示這是一個非常政治的議題所以我們來探討一下這樣的一個字眼是用以吐血民進黨造謠利用認知作戰打擊在野黨院長這是一個非常嚴重的這個議題你說\n48510\t70886\t在臺灣我們是擁護國家國安的立場而且是維護國家的安全尤其是民意代表我們是維護人民的權益跟維護人民的安全一樣那請問院長你是國安會的擔任成員嗎是不是是好\n72042\t85869\t根據《國安法》在《國家安全法》的會議組織第4條,行政院院長是國家安全會議的出席人員。那院長不只是出席國安會議,還要熟悉會議內容並落實會議的決議。\n91046\t117527\t國安會中曾經討論過認知作戰﹖對國安的危害﹖除了中共對我發動認知作戰會﹖我國還面臨哪一個方向的認知作戰﹖你來回答一下好不好。跟委員抱歉到行政院這麼一段時間以來我還沒有正式參加過正式的國安會議。目前來講當然我們國防部部長\n119110\t120376\t任次的作戰,來略行。\n132475\t147008\t是,黃委員好。好,剛剛我也提過,官會中曾經討論認識作戰對國家的危害。除了中共對我們發動認識的作戰,我國面臨的哪一些認識作戰的問題將來以後,我們怎麼樣去應對跟面臨我們的認識作戰?\n156101\t156221\t好,我們希望\n186574\t212619\t剛剛你提的任職作戰是對著是這樣的議題而不是任職作戰是今天用一些不少的一個宣講針對傅昆吉或是我們韓院長的這樣的一個任職作戰是說他是代為我們習近平的這些代言人我說這樣的一個做法民進黨這樣的一個策略這樣會\n214359\t231090\t會造成了我們國內的團結。那另外就是說,認知作戰不是對內,我們應該是共同對外,如何防範這一些將以後對我們國家危及到安全才是這樣的一個議題啊,是吧?\n235172\t246296\t我想我們面對中國可能的認知作戰,我們都隨時要有警惕跟切心。我們要這裡呼籲的是避免中國藉由認知作戰來\n249443\t249463\t﹚黃仁﹚\n268119\t292398\t請教你一個這樣的一個任職作戰的一個議題就是讓國人知道不是民進黨在外面宣講的這樣的問題那另外就是我對潛艦國造的期程請問一下部長海昆艦目前已進行了破港的測試破港的情況有順利嗎那另外有消息指出\n293098\t314430\t光電的尾港五月底已經到貨到現在已經將近一個月了那是否已經完成破港測試何時會進入到海上的測試因為尾港是一個非常重要的一個光電尾港是一個非常重要的一個儀器\n317111\t344166\t部長你來回答一下我的了解是都已經交運完畢了那也現在正在進行博港的測試那麼都有依照相關的節點來進行那我沒有辦法在這裡跟委員說明說在博港測試大概什麼時候會完畢但是一旦博港測試完成之後就接續會進行海上測試我想這個都依照相關的節點因為我必須本席提醒我們部長\n345387\t370792\t根據過去各國潛艦造艦的期程,沿行艦從下水到沉浸至少要兩年以上。而像日本這樣的一個工業大國,參隆級潛艦從下水到沉浸也花了大約一年半的時間。海昆艦在去年的9月底命名為下水,我們最首次造潛艦,\n373297\t390418\t其間部分的裝備又延遲按照理論上跟比起其他的國家更多的時間才能成軍本席提醒這個僭建國造一定要以安全為率為優先千萬不要趕進度\n393029\t394671\t海昆號的海上的進行測試的時候,你們願意登艦一起下這個潛艦測試嗎?\n416451\t417252\t臺船董事長鄭文榮也表達了\n438388\t465628\t他會登見見證海昆的潛艦在各式測試項目黃淑匡可能也會共同登見出海見證歷史性的一刻海昆線下艦的最重要的里程碑本期建議時任的院長和部長應該要主動參與下艦測試以提高國人潛艦的國造的一個信心\n466144\t467534\t也提贈國金\n470185\t496622\t我認為相關的海事這個是屬於專業的,不是我們要去院長或者部長要去做秀的一個地方。 是,我們報告淺建的完成代表國家一個非常重要的軍事的發展的階段。我們應該用很慎重來看它。在建上的所有官兵都是國家賦予重責大任的一時之選。測試的過程當中也許工程的測試是另外一種,但正式的\n497799\t518109\t下海這個下潛這個測試那絕對是一個很重要的行為所以不是我們去那邊告訴大家說我們願意來的這個情況我想我本人或許部長也應該我們沒有這個能力的資格﹖今天國軍國軍的士氣每況夜下﹖我們可以從其他方式來讓國軍認為我們跟他站在一起﹖那應該應該你們也有所作為\n518849\t543126\t要站在國軍的角度裡面提升國軍的士氣應該要勇於去面對或是是...我們會適時的來發布相關的這個測試的狀況。 你是新任你應該發表表達更有力更讓國軍能夠覺得士氣的高昂那另外就是有關於聯合力艦2024A\n545948\t563070\t中共到今年的5月23日進行聯合立憲2024A的經驗請問一下部長在這裡在遠溪區城市示意圖裡面哪一個訓練區最為值得關注你看一下這個\n564231\t585678\t跟委員報告他這一次2024歷經演習A他只有畫了一個一個那個演習區的一個大致上的一個圖他並沒有標示正確的經緯度所以事實上他演習的區域跟他現在標記的位置也沒有完全的重疊這一個就是讓你眾生\n587187\t615594\t這個縱深的意義是什麼是從西到東部他縱深裡面是臺灣因為和大陸距離太近暫時的前線後方難以區分必須要用各種方式創造部隊的緩衝空間這個空間就是縱深縱深從西部到東部劃掉一道線這個就是一個非常重要的一個戰略的一個線這是我要讓\n616687\t635369\t我讓部長知道,那有關於本期發現這個國防部刻意淡化這一次的聯合力氣2024A在威脅性在這一張演習區示意圖裡面最值得關注的就是花蓮外海的演習區,它正面\n637892\t651451\t．山基地是國軍戰力保存的重中之重。之前在民進黨政府有大號喜功已經是在斐洛西反台的時候\n652973\t672404\t我們國際戰力我們的海峽中線已經弄丟了弄丟了所以這個是非常嚴重非常嚴重那另外6月13號共經無人機也抵抵近花蓮海外海39海里讓我們利用他\n673359\t701625\t地形的優勢建立了戰力保存在受到威脅部長如果搞不清楚狀況的話事態將會非常的嚴重我們從來沒有輕忽這個您講的這個歷屆演習他不管是用示意圖的方式或是他在相關的實際作為上面對我們來參與我們來調整這一個國土防衛構想的一個重要的參與這個我想我們高度的重視在之前這個\n703405\t707686\t當然我們戰力保存是我們在演練的第一個所要的重點當然接下來還有整體防空、海上聯合階級等等\n732291\t733011\t另外我這特別要講的齁\n758187\t784522\t這一些車輛更改設定後的檢測都正常嗎?不正常。第二個用來更改車輛設定的設備是否符合規定規範?不會符合。那另外據了解提供戰鬥模式設定服務的某個廠商在未經原廠授權下私下採用紅色令大陸製作的設備以\n787203\t810176\t三載版的設定軟體經行為國新提供服務。 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軍方是否落實來詢價而且調查這樣的一個問題因為這是非常嚴重因為我這邊已經調查清楚麻煩你們在一個禮拜內把這些細數的報告要給本席作為追溯未來是否有引用這個黃色鏈\n916519\t920981\t這個部分我下來瞭解一下以後,馬上跟委員回應。好,謝謝。謝謝黃仁委員的質詢,謝謝卓院長的備詢,國防部備詢,謝謝。接下來我們請登記第三號林郡縣委員改書\n","txt":"謝謝主席﹖有請我們卓院長﹖待會再請我們國防部部長﹖再請卓院長備詢﹖請國防部部長備詢﹖黃委員好﹖你好﹖再一次的跟你在第二次的執行喔﹖那關於韓國瑜院長及傅坤熙總召﹖\n受習近平的指示這是一個非常政治的議題所以我們來探討一下這樣的一個字眼是用以吐血民進黨造謠利用認知作戰打擊在野黨院長這是一個非常嚴重的這個議題你說\n在臺灣我們是擁護國家國安的立場而且是維護國家的安全尤其是民意代表我們是維護人民的權益跟維護人民的安全一樣那請問院長你是國安會的擔任成員嗎是不是是好\n根據《國安法》在《國家安全法》的會議組織第4條,行政院院長是國家安全會議的出席人員。那院長不只是出席國安會議,還要熟悉會議內容並落實會議的決議。\n國安會中曾經討論過認知作戰﹖對國安的危害﹖除了中共對我發動認知作戰會﹖我國還面臨哪一個方向的認知作戰﹖你來回答一下好不好。跟委員抱歉到行政院這麼一段時間以來我還沒有正式參加過正式的國安會議。目前來講當然我們國防部部長\n任次的作戰,來略行。\n是,黃委員好。好,剛剛我也提過,官會中曾經討論認識作戰對國家的危害。除了中共對我們發動認識的作戰,我國面臨的哪一些認識作戰的問題將來以後,我們怎麼樣去應對跟面臨我們的認識作戰?\n好,我們希望\n剛剛你提的任職作戰是對著是這樣的議題而不是任職作戰是今天用一些不少的一個宣講針對傅昆吉或是我們韓院長的這樣的一個任職作戰是說他是代為我們習近平的這些代言人我說這樣的一個做法民進黨這樣的一個策略這樣會\n會造成了我們國內的團結。那另外就是說,認知作戰不是對內,我們應該是共同對外,如何防範這一些將以後對我們國家危及到安全才是這樣的一個議題啊,是吧?\n我想我們面對中國可能的認知作戰,我們都隨時要有警惕跟切心。我們要這裡呼籲的是避免中國藉由認知作戰來\n﹚黃仁﹚\n請教你一個這樣的一個任職作戰的一個議題就是讓國人知道不是民進黨在外面宣講的這樣的問題那另外就是我對潛艦國造的期程請問一下部長海昆艦目前已進行了破港的測試破港的情況有順利嗎那另外有消息指出\n光電的尾港五月底已經到貨到現在已經將近一個月了那是否已經完成破港測試何時會進入到海上的測試因為尾港是一個非常重要的一個光電尾港是一個非常重要的一個儀器\n部長你來回答一下我的了解是都已經交運完畢了那也現在正在進行博港的測試那麼都有依照相關的節點來進行那我沒有辦法在這裡跟委員說明說在博港測試大概什麼時候會完畢但是一旦博港測試完成之後就接續會進行海上測試我想這個都依照相關的節點因為我必須本席提醒我們部長\n根據過去各國潛艦造艦的期程,沿行艦從下水到沉浸至少要兩年以上。而像日本這樣的一個工業大國,參隆級潛艦從下水到沉浸也花了大約一年半的時間。海昆艦在去年的9月底命名為下水,我們最首次造潛艦,\n其間部分的裝備又延遲按照理論上跟比起其他的國家更多的時間才能成軍本席提醒這個僭建國造一定要以安全為率為優先千萬不要趕進度\n海昆號的海上的進行測試的時候,你們願意登艦一起下這個潛艦測試嗎?\n臺船董事長鄭文榮也表達了\n他會登見見證海昆的潛艦在各式測試項目黃淑匡可能也會共同登見出海見證歷史性的一刻海昆線下艦的最重要的里程碑本期建議時任的院長和部長應該要主動參與下艦測試以提高國人潛艦的國造的一個信心\n也提贈國金\n我認為相關的海事這個是屬於專業的,不是我們要去院長或者部長要去做秀的一個地方。 是,我們報告淺建的完成代表國家一個非常重要的軍事的發展的階段。我們應該用很慎重來看它。在建上的所有官兵都是國家賦予重責大任的一時之選。測試的過程當中也許工程的測試是另外一種,但正式的\n下海這個下潛這個測試那絕對是一個很重要的行為所以不是我們去那邊告訴大家說我們願意來的這個情況我想我本人或許部長也應該我們沒有這個能力的資格﹖今天國軍國軍的士氣每況夜下﹖我們可以從其他方式來讓國軍認為我們跟他站在一起﹖那應該應該你們也有所作為\n要站在國軍的角度裡面提升國軍的士氣應該要勇於去面對或是是...我們會適時的來發布相關的這個測試的狀況。 你是新任你應該發表表達更有力更讓國軍能夠覺得士氣的高昂那另外就是有關於聯合力艦2024A\n中共到今年的5月23日進行聯合立憲2024A的經驗請問一下部長在這裡在遠溪區城市示意圖裡面哪一個訓練區最為值得關注你看一下這個\n跟委員報告他這一次2024歷經演習A他只有畫了一個一個那個演習區的一個大致上的一個圖他並沒有標示正確的經緯度所以事實上他演習的區域跟他現在標記的位置也沒有完全的重疊這一個就是讓你眾生\n這個縱深的意義是什麼是從西到東部他縱深裡面是臺灣因為和大陸距離太近暫時的前線後方難以區分必須要用各種方式創造部隊的緩衝空間這個空間就是縱深縱深從西部到東部劃掉一道線這個就是一個非常重要的一個戰略的一個線這是我要讓\n我讓部長知道,那有關於本期發現這個國防部刻意淡化這一次的聯合力氣2024A在威脅性在這一張演習區示意圖裡面最值得關注的就是花蓮外海的演習區,它正面\n．山基地是國軍戰力保存的重中之重。之前在民進黨政府有大號喜功已經是在斐洛西反台的時候\n我們國際戰力我們的海峽中線已經弄丟了弄丟了所以這個是非常嚴重非常嚴重那另外6月13號共經無人機也抵抵近花蓮海外海39海里讓我們利用他\n地形的優勢建立了戰力保存在受到威脅部長如果搞不清楚狀況的話事態將會非常的嚴重我們從來沒有輕忽這個您講的這個歷屆演習他不管是用示意圖的方式或是他在相關的實際作為上面對我們來參與我們來調整這一個國土防衛構想的一個重要的參與這個我想我們高度的重視在之前這個\n當然我們戰力保存是我們在演練的第一個所要的重點當然接下來還有整體防空、海上聯合階級等等\n另外我這特別要講的齁\n這一些車輛更改設定後的檢測都正常嗎?不正常。第二個用來更改車輛設定的設備是否符合規定規範?不會符合。那另外據了解提供戰鬥模式設定服務的某個廠商在未經原廠授權下私下採用紅色令大陸製作的設備以\n三載版的設定軟體經行為國新提供服務。 部長,你知道這個事情,你要調查清楚啊。跟委員報告,那個我們已經完成車輛戰鬥模式的設定, 可以在尿素缺乏的時候呢,車輛的性能不受限制。 那另外也建立了尿素的存量跟持續性合約上來籌補。\n我剛剛已經提出了有大陸的大陸的產品在裡面就紅色鏈所以這個就是你們最反對的那所以你們要了解清楚那另外是這一張圖你看一下\n這是原生科技公司的簡介上面清楚寫道深圳市原生科技股份有限公司成立於1992年臺灣則有設立分公司這是一個非常嚴重的事情影響國安的案件本席要求國防部第一個\n二、調查該大陸設備與軟體是否植入非法城市有相關的議題。（6月25日（車輛相關軍用車輛上國防如何補救。（6月25日（第二目前已提供戰鬥模式設定服務廠商其報價落差每輛車輛新台幣一萬兩千六至六千兩百\n六萬兩千七百等不等報價差距高達五倍。 軍方是否落實來詢價而且調查這樣的一個問題因為這是非常嚴重因為我這邊已經調查清楚麻煩你們在一個禮拜內把這些細數的報告要給本席作為追溯未來是否有引用這個黃色鏈\n這個部分我下來瞭解一下以後,馬上跟委員回應。好,謝謝。謝謝黃仁委員的質詢,謝謝卓院長的備詢,國防部備詢,謝謝。接下來我們請登記第三號林郡縣委員改書\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.480 --> 00:26.930\n謝謝主席﹖有請我們卓院長﹖待會再請我們國防部部長﹖再請卓院長備詢﹖請國防部部長備詢﹖黃委員好﹖你好﹖再一次的跟你在第二次的執行喔﹖那關於韓國瑜院長及傅坤熙總召﹖\n\n00:27.754 --> 00:45.803\n受習近平的指示這是一個非常政治的議題所以我們來探討一下這樣的一個字眼是用以吐血民進黨造謠利用認知作戰打擊在野黨院長這是一個非常嚴重的這個議題你說\n\n00:48.510 --> 01:10.886\n在臺灣我們是擁護國家國安的立場而且是維護國家的安全尤其是民意代表我們是維護人民的權益跟維護人民的安全一樣那請問院長你是國安會的擔任成員嗎是不是是好\n\n01:12.042 --> 01:25.869\n根據《國安法》在《國家安全法》的會議組織第4條,行政院院長是國家安全會議的出席人員。那院長不只是出席國安會議,還要熟悉會議內容並落實會議的決議。\n\n01:31.046 --> 01:57.527\n國安會中曾經討論過認知作戰﹖對國安的危害﹖除了中共對我發動認知作戰會﹖我國還面臨哪一個方向的認知作戰﹖你來回答一下好不好。跟委員抱歉到行政院這麼一段時間以來我還沒有正式參加過正式的國安會議。目前來講當然我們國防部部長\n\n01:59.110 --> 02:00.376\n任次的作戰,來略行。\n\n02:12.475 --> 02:27.008\n是,黃委員好。好,剛剛我也提過,官會中曾經討論認識作戰對國家的危害。除了中共對我們發動認識的作戰,我國面臨的哪一些認識作戰的問題將來以後,我們怎麼樣去應對跟面臨我們的認識作戰?\n\n02:36.101 --> 02:36.221\n好,我們希望\n\n03:06.574 --> 03:32.619\n剛剛你提的任職作戰是對著是這樣的議題而不是任職作戰是今天用一些不少的一個宣講針對傅昆吉或是我們韓院長的這樣的一個任職作戰是說他是代為我們習近平的這些代言人我說這樣的一個做法民進黨這樣的一個策略這樣會\n\n03:34.359 --> 03:51.090\n會造成了我們國內的團結。那另外就是說,認知作戰不是對內,我們應該是共同對外,如何防範這一些將以後對我們國家危及到安全才是這樣的一個議題啊,是吧?\n\n03:55.172 --> 04:06.296\n我想我們面對中國可能的認知作戰,我們都隨時要有警惕跟切心。我們要這裡呼籲的是避免中國藉由認知作戰來\n\n04:09.443 --> 04:09.463\n﹚黃仁﹚\n\n04:28.119 --> 04:52.398\n請教你一個這樣的一個任職作戰的一個議題就是讓國人知道不是民進黨在外面宣講的這樣的問題那另外就是我對潛艦國造的期程請問一下部長海昆艦目前已進行了破港的測試破港的情況有順利嗎那另外有消息指出\n\n04:53.098 --> 05:14.430\n光電的尾港五月底已經到貨到現在已經將近一個月了那是否已經完成破港測試何時會進入到海上的測試因為尾港是一個非常重要的一個光電尾港是一個非常重要的一個儀器\n\n05:17.111 --> 05:44.166\n部長你來回答一下我的了解是都已經交運完畢了那也現在正在進行博港的測試那麼都有依照相關的節點來進行那我沒有辦法在這裡跟委員說明說在博港測試大概什麼時候會完畢但是一旦博港測試完成之後就接續會進行海上測試我想這個都依照相關的節點因為我必須本席提醒我們部長\n\n05:45.387 --> 06:10.792\n根據過去各國潛艦造艦的期程,沿行艦從下水到沉浸至少要兩年以上。而像日本這樣的一個工業大國,參隆級潛艦從下水到沉浸也花了大約一年半的時間。海昆艦在去年的9月底命名為下水,我們最首次造潛艦,\n\n06:13.297 --> 06:30.418\n其間部分的裝備又延遲按照理論上跟比起其他的國家更多的時間才能成軍本席提醒這個僭建國造一定要以安全為率為優先千萬不要趕進度\n\n06:33.029 --> 06:34.671\n海昆號的海上的進行測試的時候,你們願意登艦一起下這個潛艦測試嗎?\n\n06:56.451 --> 06:57.252\n臺船董事長鄭文榮也表達了\n\n07:18.388 --> 07:45.628\n他會登見見證海昆的潛艦在各式測試項目黃淑匡可能也會共同登見出海見證歷史性的一刻海昆線下艦的最重要的里程碑本期建議時任的院長和部長應該要主動參與下艦測試以提高國人潛艦的國造的一個信心\n\n07:46.144 --> 07:47.534\n也提贈國金\n\n07:50.185 --> 08:16.622\n我認為相關的海事這個是屬於專業的,不是我們要去院長或者部長要去做秀的一個地方。是,我們報告淺建的完成代表國家一個非常重要的軍事的發展的階段。我們應該用很慎重來看它。在建上的所有官兵都是國家賦予重責大任的一時之選。測試的過程當中也許工程的測試是另外一種,但正式的\n\n08:17.799 --> 08:38.109\n下海這個下潛這個測試那絕對是一個很重要的行為所以不是我們去那邊告訴大家說我們願意來的這個情況我想我本人或許部長也應該我們沒有這個能力的資格﹖今天國軍國軍的士氣每況夜下﹖我們可以從其他方式來讓國軍認為我們跟他站在一起﹖那應該應該你們也有所作為\n\n08:38.849 --> 09:03.126\n要站在國軍的角度裡面提升國軍的士氣應該要勇於去面對或是是...我們會適時的來發布相關的這個測試的狀況。你是新任你應該發表表達更有力更讓國軍能夠覺得士氣的高昂那另外就是有關於聯合力艦2024A\n\n09:05.948 --> 09:23.070\n中共到今年的5月23日進行聯合立憲2024A的經驗請問一下部長在這裡在遠溪區城市示意圖裡面哪一個訓練區最為值得關注你看一下這個\n\n09:24.231 --> 09:45.678\n跟委員報告他這一次2024歷經演習A他只有畫了一個一個那個演習區的一個大致上的一個圖他並沒有標示正確的經緯度所以事實上他演習的區域跟他現在標記的位置也沒有完全的重疊這一個就是讓你眾生\n\n09:47.187 --> 10:15.594\n這個縱深的意義是什麼是從西到東部他縱深裡面是臺灣因為和大陸距離太近暫時的前線後方難以區分必須要用各種方式創造部隊的緩衝空間這個空間就是縱深縱深從西部到東部劃掉一道線這個就是一個非常重要的一個戰略的一個線這是我要讓\n\n10:16.687 --> 10:35.369\n我讓部長知道,那有關於本期發現這個國防部刻意淡化這一次的聯合力氣2024A在威脅性在這一張演習區示意圖裡面最值得關注的就是花蓮外海的演習區,它正面\n\n10:37.892 --> 10:51.451\n．山基地是國軍戰力保存的重中之重。之前在民進黨政府有大號喜功已經是在斐洛西反台的時候\n\n10:52.973 --> 11:12.404\n我們國際戰力我們的海峽中線已經弄丟了弄丟了所以這個是非常嚴重非常嚴重那另外6月13號共經無人機也抵抵近花蓮海外海39海里讓我們利用他\n\n11:13.359 --> 11:41.625\n地形的優勢建立了戰力保存在受到威脅部長如果搞不清楚狀況的話事態將會非常的嚴重我們從來沒有輕忽這個您講的這個歷屆演習他不管是用示意圖的方式或是他在相關的實際作為上面對我們來參與我們來調整這一個國土防衛構想的一個重要的參與這個我想我們高度的重視在之前這個\n\n11:43.405 --> 11:47.686\n當然我們戰力保存是我們在演練的第一個所要的重點當然接下來還有整體防空、海上聯合階級等等\n\n12:12.291 --> 12:13.011\n另外我這特別要講的齁\n\n12:38.187 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