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00:01:13,955\n這個凌關稅的做法你認為國內產業是不是都做好必選的這些措施呢?有沒有?跟委員報告對於終止ECFA134項以及加上今年1月終止的12項總共有146項那終止這個凌關稅的優惠以後呢事實上就會回復到一般的稅率就是最低是2%最高到17.5當然\n\n4\n00:01:15,336 --> 00:01:20,520\n對於這一些產業會有影響跟衝擊那這個部分產業主管機關經濟部呢我們相信他已經在做相關的協助、輔導以及協助我們的廠商然後來做一些調整這個部分經濟部是會做相關的措施的\n\n5\n00:01:32,369 --> 00:01:53,763\n川部長,雖然蔡前總統和賴總統都明確地宣示走進世界是台灣未來產業該走的路而不是再次走回依賴大陸的老路但是所謂產業該走的路,請問部長,你認為產業該走的路道路標示都很明確清楚了嗎?\n\n6\n00:01:55,865 --> 00:02:05,671\n跟委員報告對於有關產業的部分尤其是受到衝擊的中小企業還有傳統產業其實經濟部就了解他們其實一直在輔導這些產業做\n\n7\n00:02:07,199 --> 00:02:26,988\n一切才升級產業的升級來提高他的競爭力不管是數位的轉型或淨零的但是有的沒有辦法升級有的是傳統產業阿是傳統產業那所以這個部分經濟部會協力輔導他們做產業的升級我將相信數位的轉型對他們來說是很重要第一個可以提高營運的效率降低營運的成本\n\n8\n00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:51,683\n那經濟部在這個方面會去加重的著力另外也就是在增加其他的市場除了大陸市場以外拓展其他的一個外銷市場你以前在我們整個東南亞的市場根本就做不出去也推不出去還是應該要走的路根本沒有鋪好所以說很多產業感受到這個窮途末路的不安有沒有\n\n9\n00:02:53,377 --> 00:03:04,597\n這個部分呢就我了解經濟部其實有跟相關的產業都在做座談了解他們的一些困難在哪裡然後給予相關的輔導那相關的具體的措施我想經濟部可以做更詳細的說明\n\n10\n00:03:06,465 --> 00:03:31,363\n因為我們超徵其實尤其包括我們很多就是在整個貿易順差其實跟對岸的貿易佔40%左右那去年前年、大前年其實都是對岸40%的貿易額我們幾乎都是順差啦那在全球\n\n11\n00:03:33,225 --> 00:03:58,826\n在貿易全球化的時代臺灣的產業想要做全世界的生意除了強化自身的產品品質特色和安全外加入區域的整個經濟組織這個是很重要和簽署自由貿易協定來肯定其必要性但是這些年臺灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定的進度緩慢\n\n12\n00:04:00,548 --> 00:04:23,028\n宣傳多餘實質、宣傳多年的加入CPTPP跨太平洋夥伴全面進步協定到現在沒有一些具體的進展就連宣稱與關係友好的美國跟日本跟澳洲簽訂FTA還是看不到結果\n\n13\n00:04:24,011 --> 00:04:33,035\n那我請問部長你認為加入區域經濟組織簽署自由貿易協定進度的遲緩的原因是到底是什麼當然加入國際的一個區域的經貿的組織然後簽訂自由貿易協定是非常重要的那可以對我們的廠商拓展外銷市場提高競爭力但是我們都進不去啊有關這個部分相關經貿協定的簽署是由行政院經貿談判辦公室來統籌處理\n\n14\n00:04:53,764 --> 00:05:22,022\n那如果需要本部參與相關的評估本部也會參加那相關談判的進度呢還是由這個辦公室來統一我知道但是齁只有對外宣傳而已實際上都沒有實質啊到現在都是原地踏步然後每一次講都說有有有那有人家都進去了同事跟我們進去的這些國家都進去了我們還在那裡原地踏步啦參加這些相關組織我想需要一定的努力以及一些時間\n\n15\n00:05:26,965 --> 00:05:42,935\n市長,如果因為ECFA終止其他經貿協定又遙遙無期,那我請問政府要怎樣來協助這些遙遙遇罪的產業,面對這種看不到前方去找該走的路,你認為我們要怎麼做?\n\n16\n00:05:44,035 --> 00:05:48,059\n根委員報告,其實台灣的相關的產業具有這個關鍵性的一個地位的,譬如說半導體、自動訊產品,那我們要鞏固我們這方面的一個競爭優勢。這是對於有優勢的部分,我們要鞏固我們的競爭優勢。那對於比較目前來說傳統產業,而且它要,裡面要照顧很多員工,對不對?\n\n17\n00:06:06,953 --> 00:06:12,620\n政府要輔導他們做一些產業的升級我剛剛提過就是像數位的轉型跟淨零的轉型這樣他們在國際上的競爭力可以提升讓他們可以取得比較好的一個地位然後擴展他們的一些市場這是主要的做法\n\n18\n00:06:22,952 --> 00:06:42,171\n我再請教因為財政部阮次長上個月中表示美台相關法案還是要等美國國會通過那台灣方面一直努力的推動但是財政部無法預估美國國會的整個時程那我請問部長因為\n\n19\n00:06:44,672 --> 00:06:48,602\n臺美租稅協定的推動時程,你認為這一屆的國會改選前有沒有機會通過?\n\n20\n00:06:53,973 --> 00:07:17,493\n因為他們馬上在11月5日就要舉行總統大選也要進行參眾兩院國會的改選短短4個多月的時間部長你認為臺美租稅協定能夠列為美國優先的法案這些急迫性的法案敢在118屆就是在美國這一屆的任期結束前來通過嗎?你認為可不可能?\n\n21\n00:07:18,173 --> 00:07:31,879\n跟委員報告臺美避免所得稅雙重協定這個ADTA的一個法案他是包裹在一個大的法案裡面但是兩黨的國會議員對我們這個法案並沒有不同意見只是包裹法案裡面有一個國內的稅法他們有意見那他們不過我們都過不了啦\n\n22\n00:07:36,161 --> 00:07:36,882\n那這一屆沒有過的話還要再等下一屆又重新開始,是不是這樣子?\n\n23\n00:07:53,638 --> 00:08:04,263\n他們應該不是全面改選他是本屆國會沒有放棄推動我們會大選後我們還是會有所餘的任期繼續推動這個法案部長因為或者台灣會被台灣恐怕會面臨119屆美國國會重新檢視協定的機率會比較大\n\n24\n00:08:10,546 --> 00:08:11,988\n下一屆會不會這樣子?因為部長,像這些租稅協定\n\n25\n00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:53,242\n我們為了保障我們的產業能夠很順利的能夠生存我認為這個很重要因為人家免稅我們要稅你說怎麼競爭大家心知肚明部長因為行政院禮拜一召開新清安的全面檢討會議會後卻說相關對策的決議\n\n26\n00:08:59,229 --> 00:09:19,174\n定案後將會適時對外來說明那請問部長新青安黃袋衍生催化草黃亂象行政院是不是打算踩煞車有沒有委員報告對新青安是不是引起相關的人頭或轉租戶這個部分我們的供股行庫第一個會強化貸錢的一個爭審\n\n27\n00:09:21,345 --> 00:09:35,610\n以及代後的追蹤管理另外對新代戶要求他提具切結書那至於目前來說各部會在盤點相關的一些做法以後行政院會做政策性的決定那我想很快的決定以後也會對外做說明那個部長\n\n28\n00:09:36,710 --> 00:10:05,459\n因為上個禮拜宣布說八大航庫新青安黃帶三項共識是不是太過嚴苛所以受到關切因而打算暫緩執行會不會這樣子跟委員報告新青安政策的利益是良善的也就是協助沒有自有住宅房或是親戚朋友們買房然後政府幫他一把這個利益是絕對好但是不能成為炒作房地產以及做轉租或借人頭是不能做這個工具部長\n\n29\n00:10:05,779 --> 00:10:28,049\n但是符合規定已經貸的陳大夫他的權益是不會受到影響的央行表示確實去調查宮古行庫的新清安房貸主要有些房產是在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人那我請問部長就央行調查宮古行庫的結果以您了解這樣的比重高不高\n\n30\n00:10:29,718 --> 00:10:32,559\n部長,你要了解清楚一點吶\n\n31\n00:10:57,452 --> 00:11:02,778\n因為他在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人\n\n32\n00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:31,779\n以子女作為借款人可以不一樣,但是這個部分你要去了解清楚啦,部長沒有,目前並沒有,央行並沒有發過這種情形你們這樣不能換款是嗎?對啊\n\n33\n00:11:36,809 --> 00:11:48,945\n我是認為你了解清楚就是說我們跟公股銀行了解結果目前的新清安貸款並沒有借款人是侄女而單保的房產登記在父母的名下並沒有這樣的情形\n\n34\n00:11:50,446 --> 00:12:16,861\n因為黃袋檢討經濟措施限制黃袋補貼政策多重管道的政策推動下導致信用膨脹的危機對於這些投機心態高而且占政府補貼黃袋便宜的人頭戶你認為是不是應該無條件溯及既往來追究還是才可能達到嚇阻這些草房的外風還是要考量個案的狀況予以斟酌\n\n35\n00:12:18,653 --> 00:12:34,004\n對於不符合清安貸款而是屬於人頭或轉租這個情形一定會依照規定來做出來?依規定?對,一定依照規定。他就不符合資格,但是他冒用這樣的資格就不符合。我是認為在這方面你們要好好的去處理啦。是。好,謝謝委員。謝謝林德福委員的諮詢,接著我們請吳秉樂委員諮詢。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n570\t2531\t財政部莊部長有請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對岸就是中國商務部這個月15日起終止134項ECFA找收清單的零關稅的優惠那\n24488\t42373\t臺灣機械工業工會推估臺灣機械設備年出口值將因此減少1.1億到1.4億左右美元1.1億到1.4億左右美元在中國市占下滑4%到5%那我請問部長針對中資ECFA早收清單\n48555\t73955\t這個凌關稅的做法你認為國內產業是不是都做好必選的這些措施呢?有沒有?跟委員報告對於終止ECFA134項以及加上今年1月終止的12項總共有146項那終止這個凌關稅的優惠以後呢事實上就會回復到一般的稅率就是最低是2%最高到17.5當然\n75336\t80520\t對於這一些產業會有影響跟衝擊那這個部分產業主管機關經濟部呢我們相信他已經在做相關的協助、輔導以及協助我們的廠商然後來做一些調整這個部分經濟部是會做相關的措施的\n92369\t113763\t川部長,雖然蔡前總統和賴總統都明確地宣示走進世界是台灣未來產業該走的路而不是再次走回依賴大陸的老路但是所謂產業該走的路,請問部長,你認為產業該走的路道路標示都很明確清楚了嗎?\n115865\t125671\t跟委員報告對於有關產業的部分尤其是受到衝擊的中小企業還有傳統產業其實經濟部就了解他們其實一直在輔導這些產業做\n127199\t146988\t一切才升級產業的升級來提高他的競爭力不管是數位的轉型或淨零的但是有的沒有辦法升級有的是傳統產業阿是傳統產業那所以這個部分經濟部會協力輔導他們做產業的升級我將相信數位的轉型對他們來說是很重要第一個可以提高營運的效率降低營運的成本\n147348\t171683\t那經濟部在這個方面會去加重的著力另外也就是在增加其他的市場除了大陸市場以外拓展其他的一個外銷市場你以前在我們整個東南亞的市場根本就做不出去也推不出去還是應該要走的路根本沒有鋪好所以說很多產業感受到這個窮途末路的不安有沒有\n173377\t184597\t這個部分呢就我了解經濟部其實有跟相關的產業都在做座談了解他們的一些困難在哪裡然後給予相關的輔導那相關的具體的措施我想經濟部可以做更詳細的說明\n186465\t211363\t因為我們超徵其實尤其包括我們很多就是在整個貿易順差其實跟對岸的貿易佔40%左右那去年前年、大前年其實都是對岸40%的貿易額我們幾乎都是順差啦那在全球\n213225\t238826\t在貿易全球化的時代臺灣的產業想要做全世界的生意除了強化自身的產品品質特色和安全外加入區域的整個經濟組織這個是很重要和簽署自由貿易協定來肯定其必要性但是這些年臺灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定的進度緩慢\n240548\t263028\t宣傳多餘實質、宣傳多年的加入CPTPP跨太平洋夥伴全面進步協定到現在沒有一些具體的進展就連宣稱與關係友好的美國跟日本跟澳洲簽訂FTA還是看不到結果\n264011\t273035\t那我請問部長你認為加入區域經濟組織簽署自由貿易協定進度的遲緩的原因是到底是什麼當然加入國際的一個區域的經貿的組織然後簽訂自由貿易協定是非常重要的那可以對我們的廠商拓展外銷市場提高競爭力但是我們都進不去啊有關這個部分相關經貿協定的簽署是由行政院經貿談判辦公室來統籌處理\n293764\t322022\t那如果需要本部參與相關的評估本部也會參加那相關談判的進度呢還是由這個辦公室來統一我知道但是齁只有對外宣傳而已實際上都沒有實質啊到現在都是原地踏步然後每一次講都說有有有那有人家都進去了同事跟我們進去的這些國家都進去了我們還在那裡原地踏步啦參加這些相關組織我想需要一定的努力以及一些時間\n326965\t342935\t市長,如果因為ECFA終止其他經貿協定又遙遙無期,那我請問政府要怎樣來協助這些遙遙遇罪的產業,面對這種看不到前方去找該走的路,你認為我們要怎麼做?\n344035\t348059\t根委員報告,其實台灣的相關的產業具有這個關鍵性的一個地位的,譬如說半導體、自動訊產品,那我們要鞏固我們這方面的一個競爭優勢。這是對於有優勢的部分,我們要鞏固我們的競爭優勢。那對於比較目前來說傳統產業,而且它要,裡面要照顧很多員工,對不對?\n366953\t372620\t政府要輔導他們做一些產業的升級我剛剛提過就是像數位的轉型跟淨零的轉型這樣他們在國際上的競爭力可以提升讓他們可以取得比較好的一個地位然後擴展他們的一些市場這是主要的做法\n382952\t402171\t我再請教因為財政部阮次長上個月中表示美台相關法案還是要等美國國會通過那台灣方面一直努力的推動但是財政部無法預估美國國會的整個時程那我請問部長因為\n404672\t408602\t臺美租稅協定的推動時程,你認為這一屆的國會改選前有沒有機會通過?\n413973\t437493\t因為他們馬上在11月5日就要舉行總統大選也要進行參眾兩院國會的改選短短4個多月的時間部長你認為臺美租稅協定能夠列為美國優先的法案這些急迫性的法案敢在118屆就是在美國這一屆的任期結束前來通過嗎?你認為可不可能?\n438173\t451879\t跟委員報告臺美避免所得稅雙重協定這個ADTA的一個法案他是包裹在一個大的法案裡面但是兩黨的國會議員對我們這個法案並沒有不同意見只是包裹法案裡面有一個國內的稅法他們有意見 那他們不過我們都過不了啦\n456161\t456882\t那這一屆沒有過的話還要再等下一屆又重新開始,是不是這樣子?\n473638\t484263\t他們應該不是全面改選他是本屆國會沒有放棄推動我們會大選後我們還是會有所餘的任期繼續推動這個法案部長 因為或者台灣會被台灣恐怕會面臨119屆美國國會重新檢視協定的機率會比較大\n490546\t491988\t下一屆會不會這樣子?因為部長,像這些租稅協定\n512330\t533242\t我們為了保障我們的產業能夠很順利的能夠生存我認為這個很重要因為人家免稅我們要稅你說怎麼競爭大家心知肚明部長因為行政院禮拜一召開新清安的全面檢討會議會後卻說相關對策的決議\n539229\t559174\t定案後將會適時對外來說明那請問部長新青安黃袋衍生催化草黃亂象行政院是不是打算踩煞車有沒有委員報告對新青安是不是引起相關的人頭或轉租戶這個部分我們的供股行庫第一個會強化貸錢的一個爭審\n561345\t575610\t以及代後的追蹤管理另外對新代戶要求他提具切結書那至於目前來說各部會在盤點相關的一些做法以後行政院會做政策性的決定那我想很快的決定以後也會對外做說明那個部長\n576710\t605459\t因為上個禮拜宣布說八大航庫新青安黃帶三項共識是不是太過嚴苛所以受到關切因而打算暫緩執行會不會這樣子跟委員報告新青安政策的利益是良善的也就是協助沒有自有住宅房或是親戚朋友們買房然後政府幫他一把這個利益是絕對好但是不能成為炒作房地產以及做轉租或借人頭是不能做這個工具部長\n605779\t628049\t但是符合規定已經貸的陳大夫他的權益是不會受到影響的央行表示確實去調查宮古行庫的新清安房貸主要有些房產是在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人那我請問部長就央行調查宮古行庫的結果以您了解這樣的比重高不高\n629718\t632559\t部長,你要了解清楚一點吶\n657452\t662778\t因為他在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人\n674591\t691779\t以子女作為借款人可以不一樣,但是這個部分你要去了解清楚啦,部長沒有,目前並沒有,央行並沒有發過這種情形你們這樣不能換款是嗎?對啊\n696809\t708945\t我是認為你了解清楚就是說我們跟公股銀行了解結果目前的新清安貸款並沒有借款人是侄女而單保的房產登記在父母的名下並沒有這樣的情形\n710446\t736861\t因為黃袋檢討經濟措施限制黃袋補貼政策多重管道的政策推動下導致信用膨脹的危機對於這些投機心態高而且占政府補貼黃袋便宜的人頭戶你認為是不是應該無條件溯及既往來追究還是才可能達到嚇阻這些草房的外風還是要考量個案的狀況予以斟酌\n738653\t754004\t對於不符合清安貸款而是屬於人頭或轉租這個情形一定會依照規定來做出來?依規定?對,一定依照規定。他就不符合資格,但是他冒用這樣的資格就不符合。我是認為在這方面你們要好好的去處理啦。是。好,謝謝委員。謝謝林德福委員的諮詢,接著我們請吳秉樂委員諮詢。\n","txt":"財政部莊部長有請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對岸就是中國商務部這個月15日起終止134項ECFA找收清單的零關稅的優惠那\n臺灣機械工業工會推估臺灣機械設備年出口值將因此減少1.1億到1.4億左右美元1.1億到1.4億左右美元在中國市占下滑4%到5%那我請問部長針對中資ECFA早收清單\n這個凌關稅的做法你認為國內產業是不是都做好必選的這些措施呢?有沒有?跟委員報告對於終止ECFA134項以及加上今年1月終止的12項總共有146項那終止這個凌關稅的優惠以後呢事實上就會回復到一般的稅率就是最低是2%最高到17.5當然\n對於這一些產業會有影響跟衝擊那這個部分產業主管機關經濟部呢我們相信他已經在做相關的協助、輔導以及協助我們的廠商然後來做一些調整這個部分經濟部是會做相關的措施的\n川部長,雖然蔡前總統和賴總統都明確地宣示走進世界是台灣未來產業該走的路而不是再次走回依賴大陸的老路但是所謂產業該走的路,請問部長,你認為產業該走的路道路標示都很明確清楚了嗎?\n跟委員報告對於有關產業的部分尤其是受到衝擊的中小企業還有傳統產業其實經濟部就了解他們其實一直在輔導這些產業做\n一切才升級產業的升級來提高他的競爭力不管是數位的轉型或淨零的但是有的沒有辦法升級有的是傳統產業阿是傳統產業那所以這個部分經濟部會協力輔導他們做產業的升級我將相信數位的轉型對他們來說是很重要第一個可以提高營運的效率降低營運的成本\n那經濟部在這個方面會去加重的著力另外也就是在增加其他的市場除了大陸市場以外拓展其他的一個外銷市場你以前在我們整個東南亞的市場根本就做不出去也推不出去還是應該要走的路根本沒有鋪好所以說很多產業感受到這個窮途末路的不安有沒有\n這個部分呢就我了解經濟部其實有跟相關的產業都在做座談了解他們的一些困難在哪裡然後給予相關的輔導那相關的具體的措施我想經濟部可以做更詳細的說明\n因為我們超徵其實尤其包括我們很多就是在整個貿易順差其實跟對岸的貿易佔40%左右那去年前年、大前年其實都是對岸40%的貿易額我們幾乎都是順差啦那在全球\n在貿易全球化的時代臺灣的產業想要做全世界的生意除了強化自身的產品品質特色和安全外加入區域的整個經濟組織這個是很重要和簽署自由貿易協定來肯定其必要性但是這些年臺灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定的進度緩慢\n宣傳多餘實質、宣傳多年的加入CPTPP跨太平洋夥伴全面進步協定到現在沒有一些具體的進展就連宣稱與關係友好的美國跟日本跟澳洲簽訂FTA還是看不到結果\n那我請問部長你認為加入區域經濟組織簽署自由貿易協定進度的遲緩的原因是到底是什麼當然加入國際的一個區域的經貿的組織然後簽訂自由貿易協定是非常重要的那可以對我們的廠商拓展外銷市場提高競爭力但是我們都進不去啊有關這個部分相關經貿協定的簽署是由行政院經貿談判辦公室來統籌處理\n那如果需要本部參與相關的評估本部也會參加那相關談判的進度呢還是由這個辦公室來統一我知道但是齁只有對外宣傳而已實際上都沒有實質啊到現在都是原地踏步然後每一次講都說有有有那有人家都進去了同事跟我們進去的這些國家都進去了我們還在那裡原地踏步啦參加這些相關組織我想需要一定的努力以及一些時間\n市長,如果因為ECFA終止其他經貿協定又遙遙無期,那我請問政府要怎樣來協助這些遙遙遇罪的產業,面對這種看不到前方去找該走的路,你認為我們要怎麼做?\n根委員報告,其實台灣的相關的產業具有這個關鍵性的一個地位的,譬如說半導體、自動訊產品,那我們要鞏固我們這方面的一個競爭優勢。這是對於有優勢的部分,我們要鞏固我們的競爭優勢。那對於比較目前來說傳統產業,而且它要,裡面要照顧很多員工,對不對?\n政府要輔導他們做一些產業的升級我剛剛提過就是像數位的轉型跟淨零的轉型這樣他們在國際上的競爭力可以提升讓他們可以取得比較好的一個地位然後擴展他們的一些市場這是主要的做法\n我再請教因為財政部阮次長上個月中表示美台相關法案還是要等美國國會通過那台灣方面一直努力的推動但是財政部無法預估美國國會的整個時程那我請問部長因為\n臺美租稅協定的推動時程,你認為這一屆的國會改選前有沒有機會通過?\n因為他們馬上在11月5日就要舉行總統大選也要進行參眾兩院國會的改選短短4個多月的時間部長你認為臺美租稅協定能夠列為美國優先的法案這些急迫性的法案敢在118屆就是在美國這一屆的任期結束前來通過嗎?你認為可不可能?\n跟委員報告臺美避免所得稅雙重協定這個ADTA的一個法案他是包裹在一個大的法案裡面但是兩黨的國會議員對我們這個法案並沒有不同意見只是包裹法案裡面有一個國內的稅法他們有意見 那他們不過我們都過不了啦\n那這一屆沒有過的話還要再等下一屆又重新開始,是不是這樣子?\n他們應該不是全面改選他是本屆國會沒有放棄推動我們會大選後我們還是會有所餘的任期繼續推動這個法案部長 因為或者台灣會被台灣恐怕會面臨119屆美國國會重新檢視協定的機率會比較大\n下一屆會不會這樣子?因為部長,像這些租稅協定\n我們為了保障我們的產業能夠很順利的能夠生存我認為這個很重要因為人家免稅我們要稅你說怎麼競爭大家心知肚明部長因為行政院禮拜一召開新清安的全面檢討會議會後卻說相關對策的決議\n定案後將會適時對外來說明那請問部長新青安黃袋衍生催化草黃亂象行政院是不是打算踩煞車有沒有委員報告對新青安是不是引起相關的人頭或轉租戶這個部分我們的供股行庫第一個會強化貸錢的一個爭審\n以及代後的追蹤管理另外對新代戶要求他提具切結書那至於目前來說各部會在盤點相關的一些做法以後行政院會做政策性的決定那我想很快的決定以後也會對外做說明那個部長\n因為上個禮拜宣布說八大航庫新青安黃帶三項共識是不是太過嚴苛所以受到關切因而打算暫緩執行會不會這樣子跟委員報告新青安政策的利益是良善的也就是協助沒有自有住宅房或是親戚朋友們買房然後政府幫他一把這個利益是絕對好但是不能成為炒作房地產以及做轉租或借人頭是不能做這個工具部長\n但是符合規定已經貸的陳大夫他的權益是不會受到影響的央行表示確實去調查宮古行庫的新清安房貸主要有些房產是在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人那我請問部長就央行調查宮古行庫的結果以您了解這樣的比重高不高\n部長,你要了解清楚一點吶\n因為他在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人\n以子女作為借款人可以不一樣,但是這個部分你要去了解清楚啦,部長沒有,目前並沒有,央行並沒有發過這種情形你們這樣不能換款是嗎?對啊\n我是認為你了解清楚就是說我們跟公股銀行了解結果目前的新清安貸款並沒有借款人是侄女而單保的房產登記在父母的名下並沒有這樣的情形\n因為黃袋檢討經濟措施限制黃袋補貼政策多重管道的政策推動下導致信用膨脹的危機對於這些投機心態高而且占政府補貼黃袋便宜的人頭戶你認為是不是應該無條件溯及既往來追究還是才可能達到嚇阻這些草房的外風還是要考量個案的狀況予以斟酌\n對於不符合清安貸款而是屬於人頭或轉租這個情形一定會依照規定來做出來?依規定?對,一定依照規定。他就不符合資格,但是他冒用這樣的資格就不符合。我是認為在這方面你們要好好的去處理啦。是。好,謝謝委員。謝謝林德福委員的諮詢,接著我們請吳秉樂委員諮詢。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.570 --> 00:02.531\n財政部莊部長有請莊部長委員好部長你好部長我請教因為對岸就是中國商務部這個月15日起終止134項ECFA找收清單的零關稅的優惠那\n\n00:24.488 --> 00:42.373\n臺灣機械工業工會推估臺灣機械設備年出口值將因此減少1.1億到1.4億左右美元1.1億到1.4億左右美元在中國市占下滑4%到5%那我請問部長針對中資ECFA早收清單\n\n00:48.555 --> 01:13.955\n這個凌關稅的做法你認為國內產業是不是都做好必選的這些措施呢?有沒有?跟委員報告對於終止ECFA134項以及加上今年1月終止的12項總共有146項那終止這個凌關稅的優惠以後呢事實上就會回復到一般的稅率就是最低是2%最高到17.5當然\n\n01:15.336 --> 01:20.520\n對於這一些產業會有影響跟衝擊那這個部分產業主管機關經濟部呢我們相信他已經在做相關的協助、輔導以及協助我們的廠商然後來做一些調整這個部分經濟部是會做相關的措施的\n\n01:32.369 --> 01:53.763\n川部長,雖然蔡前總統和賴總統都明確地宣示走進世界是台灣未來產業該走的路而不是再次走回依賴大陸的老路但是所謂產業該走的路,請問部長,你認為產業該走的路道路標示都很明確清楚了嗎?\n\n01:55.865 --> 02:05.671\n跟委員報告對於有關產業的部分尤其是受到衝擊的中小企業還有傳統產業其實經濟部就了解他們其實一直在輔導這些產業做\n\n02:07.199 --> 02:26.988\n一切才升級產業的升級來提高他的競爭力不管是數位的轉型或淨零的但是有的沒有辦法升級有的是傳統產業阿是傳統產業那所以這個部分經濟部會協力輔導他們做產業的升級我將相信數位的轉型對他們來說是很重要第一個可以提高營運的效率降低營運的成本\n\n02:27.348 --> 02:51.683\n那經濟部在這個方面會去加重的著力另外也就是在增加其他的市場除了大陸市場以外拓展其他的一個外銷市場你以前在我們整個東南亞的市場根本就做不出去也推不出去還是應該要走的路根本沒有鋪好所以說很多產業感受到這個窮途末路的不安有沒有\n\n02:53.377 --> 03:04.597\n這個部分呢就我了解經濟部其實有跟相關的產業都在做座談了解他們的一些困難在哪裡然後給予相關的輔導那相關的具體的措施我想經濟部可以做更詳細的說明\n\n03:06.465 --> 03:31.363\n因為我們超徵其實尤其包括我們很多就是在整個貿易順差其實跟對岸的貿易佔40%左右那去年前年、大前年其實都是對岸40%的貿易額我們幾乎都是順差啦那在全球\n\n03:33.225 --> 03:58.826\n在貿易全球化的時代臺灣的產業想要做全世界的生意除了強化自身的產品品質特色和安全外加入區域的整個經濟組織這個是很重要和簽署自由貿易協定來肯定其必要性但是這些年臺灣與其他國家洽簽的自由貿易協定的進度緩慢\n\n04:00.548 --> 04:23.028\n宣傳多餘實質、宣傳多年的加入CPTPP跨太平洋夥伴全面進步協定到現在沒有一些具體的進展就連宣稱與關係友好的美國跟日本跟澳洲簽訂FTA還是看不到結果\n\n04:24.011 --> 04:33.035\n那我請問部長你認為加入區域經濟組織簽署自由貿易協定進度的遲緩的原因是到底是什麼當然加入國際的一個區域的經貿的組織然後簽訂自由貿易協定是非常重要的那可以對我們的廠商拓展外銷市場提高競爭力但是我們都進不去啊有關這個部分相關經貿協定的簽署是由行政院經貿談判辦公室來統籌處理\n\n04:53.764 --> 05:22.022\n那如果需要本部參與相關的評估本部也會參加那相關談判的進度呢還是由這個辦公室來統一我知道但是齁只有對外宣傳而已實際上都沒有實質啊到現在都是原地踏步然後每一次講都說有有有那有人家都進去了同事跟我們進去的這些國家都進去了我們還在那裡原地踏步啦參加這些相關組織我想需要一定的努力以及一些時間\n\n05:26.965 --> 05:42.935\n市長,如果因為ECFA終止其他經貿協定又遙遙無期,那我請問政府要怎樣來協助這些遙遙遇罪的產業,面對這種看不到前方去找該走的路,你認為我們要怎麼做?\n\n05:44.035 --> 05:48.059\n根委員報告,其實台灣的相關的產業具有這個關鍵性的一個地位的,譬如說半導體、自動訊產品,那我們要鞏固我們這方面的一個競爭優勢。這是對於有優勢的部分,我們要鞏固我們的競爭優勢。那對於比較目前來說傳統產業,而且它要,裡面要照顧很多員工,對不對?\n\n06:06.953 --> 06:12.620\n政府要輔導他們做一些產業的升級我剛剛提過就是像數位的轉型跟淨零的轉型這樣他們在國際上的競爭力可以提升讓他們可以取得比較好的一個地位然後擴展他們的一些市場這是主要的做法\n\n06:22.952 --> 06:42.171\n我再請教因為財政部阮次長上個月中表示美台相關法案還是要等美國國會通過那台灣方面一直努力的推動但是財政部無法預估美國國會的整個時程那我請問部長因為\n\n06:44.672 --> 06:48.602\n臺美租稅協定的推動時程,你認為這一屆的國會改選前有沒有機會通過?\n\n06:53.973 --> 07:17.493\n因為他們馬上在11月5日就要舉行總統大選也要進行參眾兩院國會的改選短短4個多月的時間部長你認為臺美租稅協定能夠列為美國優先的法案這些急迫性的法案敢在118屆就是在美國這一屆的任期結束前來通過嗎?你認為可不可能?\n\n07:18.173 --> 07:31.879\n跟委員報告臺美避免所得稅雙重協定這個ADTA的一個法案他是包裹在一個大的法案裡面但是兩黨的國會議員對我們這個法案並沒有不同意見只是包裹法案裡面有一個國內的稅法他們有意見那他們不過我們都過不了啦\n\n07:36.161 --> 07:36.882\n那這一屆沒有過的話還要再等下一屆又重新開始,是不是這樣子?\n\n07:53.638 --> 08:04.263\n他們應該不是全面改選他是本屆國會沒有放棄推動我們會大選後我們還是會有所餘的任期繼續推動這個法案部長因為或者台灣會被台灣恐怕會面臨119屆美國國會重新檢視協定的機率會比較大\n\n08:10.546 --> 08:11.988\n下一屆會不會這樣子?因為部長,像這些租稅協定\n\n08:32.330 --> 08:53.242\n我們為了保障我們的產業能夠很順利的能夠生存我認為這個很重要因為人家免稅我們要稅你說怎麼競爭大家心知肚明部長因為行政院禮拜一召開新清安的全面檢討會議會後卻說相關對策的決議\n\n08:59.229 --> 09:19.174\n定案後將會適時對外來說明那請問部長新青安黃袋衍生催化草黃亂象行政院是不是打算踩煞車有沒有委員報告對新青安是不是引起相關的人頭或轉租戶這個部分我們的供股行庫第一個會強化貸錢的一個爭審\n\n09:21.345 --> 09:35.610\n以及代後的追蹤管理另外對新代戶要求他提具切結書那至於目前來說各部會在盤點相關的一些做法以後行政院會做政策性的決定那我想很快的決定以後也會對外做說明那個部長\n\n09:36.710 --> 10:05.459\n因為上個禮拜宣布說八大航庫新青安黃帶三項共識是不是太過嚴苛所以受到關切因而打算暫緩執行會不會這樣子跟委員報告新青安政策的利益是良善的也就是協助沒有自有住宅房或是親戚朋友們買房然後政府幫他一把這個利益是絕對好但是不能成為炒作房地產以及做轉租或借人頭是不能做這個工具部長\n\n10:05.779 --> 10:28.049\n但是符合規定已經貸的陳大夫他的權益是不會受到影響的央行表示確實去調查宮古行庫的新清安房貸主要有些房產是在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人那我請問部長就央行調查宮古行庫的結果以您了解這樣的比重高不高\n\n10:29.718 --> 10:32.559\n部長,你要了解清楚一點吶\n\n10:57.452 --> 11:02.778\n因為他在父母的名下但是以子女作為借款人\n\n11:14.591 --> 11:31.779\n以子女作為借款人可以不一樣,但是這個部分你要去了解清楚啦,部長沒有,目前並沒有,央行並沒有發過這種情形你們這樣不能換款是嗎?對啊\n\n11:36.809 --> 11:48.945\n我是認為你了解清楚就是說我們跟公股銀行了解結果目前的新清安貸款並沒有借款人是侄女而單保的房產登記在父母的名下並沒有這樣的情形\n\n11:50.446 --> 12:16.861\n因為黃袋檢討經濟措施限制黃袋補貼政策多重管道的政策推動下導致信用膨脹的危機對於這些投機心態高而且占政府補貼黃袋便宜的人頭戶你認為是不是應該無條件溯及既往來追究還是才可能達到嚇阻這些草房的外風還是要考量個案的狀況予以斟酌\n\n12:18.653 --> 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