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00:02:53,885\n好這邊補充一下齁就是\n\n10\n00:03:13,046 --> 00:03:13,827\n那各目的事業主管機關?\n\n11\n00:03:37,909 --> 00:04:03,548\n總經理你確定他們今年有編列這樣的預算嗎還是說你的整個這個計畫是從明年才開始計算因為現在大概各部會已經準備在編列明年的預算了嘛所以你們現在發這個文的意思你們在中央在行政院裡頭有沒有經過跨部會的整合協調然後各機關是不是確定從明年開始他們就會去編列所謂的減少優惠的這樣的一個預算編列\n\n12\n00:04:06,201 --> 00:04:19,427\n是的這個部分是在中央有曾經協調過有這樣的一個決議所以我們是根據這個決議發文給各世界目的所以各個機關都知道比如說教育部也知道是的\n\n13\n00:04:20,285 --> 00:04:20,505\n是的。是的。\n\n14\n00:04:43,604 --> 00:05:09,770\n第二未來的這一些補助由各機關來自行編列預算我覺得這兩個重點其實前面只是前面那個重點啦就你要讓他們知道說他們的電價還是動漲不會因此而受到影響我覺得這個是一個很重要的關鍵前提否則現在新聞就寫說台電取消所有的這個優惠措施那你會造成大家的恐慌我覺得這件事情可能\n\n15\n00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:34,250\n這個次長或者是台電你們還要必須要在對外說明更清楚好我們在對外說明再強化這一塊好來接下來我其實要講就是說電費這件事情我現在看到有一個民間的企業就是統一超商他們在6月21號開始推動所謂的凌晨3點到6點限時關燈的這樣的一個政策預估一年可以節省96萬度的電\n\n16\n00:05:36,777 --> 00:05:42,293\n這個我覺得還是一個蠻不錯的一個政策方向請問一下經濟部有沒有\n\n17\n00:05:43,533 --> 00:06:09,198\n有沒有這樣的意思比如說更加大幅的去推廣不必要的用電或者是說真的我們應該要大幅的鼓勵大家去採用節能設施節電設施我一直在想我們立法院的這個燈我們立法院的冷氣到底有沒有節電設施比如說我們現在會議在進行可是我們的門是一直開著外面30幾度那那個整個冷氣的運轉\n\n18\n00:06:11,718 --> 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