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00:02:34,553\n槍、榴彈都沒有打過。這是新制的時候,這是第一批的時候。有一位教召員B呢,他就說他那時候是擔任船令兵,作為來講他是要練習背上這個所謂拐拐無限電機,可是他在教召訓練14天裡面,一次都沒有背過。\n\n9\n00:02:35,273 --> 00:02:59,193\n那有個教召員C呢他說他在教召編輯裡面他是被分配為營級的這個情報士官工作應該是幫助長光收集各種地方情報協助指揮判斷戰況可是他跟其他的教召員一樣只接受步槍兵的訓練沒有人協助他複習情報士官、情搜相關專業的訓練\n\n10\n00:03:00,954 --> 00:03:26,519\n所以是不是說這是在這個新制DP的這個教召員他們所提出來的這些意見那兩年過去了失敗了兩年對於這些剛剛我所提到的ABC教召員所提到這個問題我們有在做改進嗎?看起來我們的訓練內容是非常的不矜持跟委員報告委員指教的我認為我有也有\n\n11\n00:03:28,661 --> 00:03:48,934\n相當的認同就是說我們後備軍人的這個訓練因為從我們過去我們今年才開始實施一年期的EWE的從4個月才到一年期的EWE那後備軍人的這個訓練的這個部分如何讓他訓練能夠扎實然後能夠\n\n12\n00:03:52,202 --> 00:04:04,675\n有效的形成站立,這個部分是我們的一個非常重大的一個挑戰。那不但只是訓練部分,那還有裝備等等。那現在我想我們會從基層幹部來\n\n13\n00:04:10,151 --> 00:04:38,303\n就是說他有一個後備戰略形成他要有一定人數的基層幹部那這個基層幹部的這個能力呢要把他變成是一個志願役然後他來帶領這些役這些過去的軍事訓練役的這個人那這樣子才能夠形成一個有效的戰力那所以從基層幹部能力的補時這一點就開始要做起那訓練的這一個部分呢確實我想從一開始\n\n14\n00:04:39,944 --> 00:04:56,269\n展開這個新式的教召確實還是有一些問題存在,但是我們不斷地去改進這個新式教召的這個內容,那將這個新式教召的內容把它從這個也就是說讓它\n\n15\n00:04:57,429 --> 00:05:12,675\n不管是在實彈的這個射擊上面還有各種的這個核武實彈化訓練要求的射擊的姿勢姿態然後戰鬥的這個射擊方式那一直到這個野外\n\n16\n00:05:13,655 --> 00:05:35,720\n來素飲等等,我們現在不斷地在加強,所以訓練的這個強度會逐漸來加強。也就是說,總的來講,那另外我們裝備也要到位,裝備也要到位。所以我們從基層幹部的捕食,然後教召的這個強度加強,那一直到我們現在建軍的這個裡面將這個\n\n17\n00:05:39,021 --> 00:06:01,853\n這個後備軍人的裝備也列為優先的建軍內容項目之一。希望透過這三個部分,我們希望能夠來形成一個有戰鬥力的後備部隊。這是我們現在國防部屬於一個重要的政策項目。\n\n18\n00:06:02,273 --> 00:06:16,465\n是,部長剛剛你提到這個裝備,不單裝備還有武器,像過去我們在叫招的時候,我們是單位之間互相借用這個武器跟裝備,也就是說我們後備單位是沒有自己的武器跟裝備,這情況有改善嗎?請問。裝備現在的籌貨,列為我們現在這個\n\n19\n00:06:24,383 --> 00:06:38,326\n三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、\n\n20\n00:06:53,653 --> 00:06:54,364\n可以改進的空間。\n\n21\n00:06:55,185 --> 00:07:19,512\nOK好謝謝部長所以我們現在就要找我們所採取的就是就地動員、就地編制、就地訓練、就地守備的這個方式那這部分我們當然是非常的這個肯定那當然我們動員署其中成立最主要有一個很重要的這個目標就是長後合一那我們有做到長後合一嗎我們的長輩軍人跟後輩軍人我們有曾經有過協同作戰的這個演習嗎有嗎請問\n\n22\n00:07:24,173 --> 00:07:29,515\n這是我們的目標之一,我們有做到嗎?就是在漢光的時候我們有納入,那平常訓練的時候、平常教招的時候是沒有的嗎?\n\n23\n00:07:36,704 --> 00:07:57,511\n平常叫召的時候剛剛您講的就是我們現在拉到那個現地去那讓他去熟悉這戰場的環境然後讓他了解然後來進行他熟悉他的戰鬥位置那這樣子的方式來進行至少就叫召了十四天是沒有辦法\n\n24\n00:07:58,231 --> 00:08:10,293\n就跟像漢光演習這樣子來進行但我們就會到他的現地的位置讓他去熟悉他應該要有的守備位置這樣子\n\n25\n00:08:11,275 --> 00:08:31,890\n市長,我有給一個建議,像新加坡,其實新加坡跟台灣非常的這個類似,它也有戰備軍人的這個回訊。那之前我有看過這個韓剛明少將他有提到就是說,像新加坡他一樣也是14天的這個,他們叫回訊,我們叫叫招,他們叫回訊,他們說這些叫招員呢,\n\n26\n00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:41,193\n委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n\n27\n00:08:46,335 --> 00:09:10,612\n跟委員報告新加坡這個部分我跟新加坡相關的人已經有談過好多次了他們最重要的就是說他們18歲當兵的時候他們把他形成一組的人力之後他們就會從中拔走那個幹部然後從中拔走幹部之後他們就這一組會用一個他們自己的一個比如說LINE或者是一個社群的平台來聯絡\n\n28\n00:09:11,753 --> 00:09:29,346\n那所以他們會隨時可以進行動員然後這一些小組的幹部就會通知這些人馬上去報導他有時候光報導但是不實施教召有時候報導以後把衣服穿好然後就回家有時候是報導以後再加實驗的訓練他用各種的方式來進行這樣的動員演練這確實是值得我們學習的地方\n\n29\n00:09:34,549 --> 00:10:01,016\n因為我有看過他相關的這個報導我是覺得確實部長您所講的他的新加坡經驗真的是很值得我們去學習像他也擔心馬來西亞他也擔心印尼他周邊也有很多的這個強國所以他們的全民的這方面的這個意識這防疫的意識其實是非常強的這國家意識也是非常的強而且他們這個在教招的時候不是單純就只有自己在\n\n30\n00:10:02,397 --> 00:10:29,759\n在做這個所謂訓練,就是教召員的訓練,他們可能還會結合民間。好像全國都有這樣子的一個想法,就是保家衛國的這個想法。我在想說這個部分,新加坡經驗很值得我們去了解跟學習。好,那時間到了以上,謝謝。是,謝謝蚊子,我們,因為新加坡它地方比較小啦,這一點,但是我們要學習它的這個方法論是應該的,是。\n\n31\n00:10:35,890 --> 00:10:38,120\n接下來請黃仁委員上台質詢。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n309\t1450\t謝謝主席。有請顧部長。請顧部長。羅遠豪\n11011\t11131\t委員王鴻薇\n31252\t41298\t三、審查本院委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委\n48963\t53749\t所以國防部才在2021年的時候推動這個全動數的這個改組而且在2022年的時候後備軍人叫招的這個訓練我們有更新了這個計畫到目前為止我們已經試辦了兩年然後在明年會正式來上路\n67325\t83614\t我記得之前我有看到一份報導也就是在這個新制剛開始的時候那時候被認為是有史以來最硬的這個教召那教召第一批的這個教召員曾經受過一些媒體的這個訪問那我列出幾個例子可能要待會兒可能要麻煩國防部長來回答一下因為他就說像過去的話我們就職的教召都是在營區裡面\n95720\t105631\t委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n111477\t113879\t二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2\n134318\t154553\t槍、榴彈都沒有打過。這是新制的時候,這是第一批的時候。有一位教召員B呢,他就說他那時候是擔任船令兵,作為來講他是要練習背上這個所謂拐拐無限電機,可是他在教召訓練14天裡面,一次都沒有背過。\n155273\t179193\t那有個教召員C呢他說他在教召編輯裡面他是被分配為營級的這個情報士官工作應該是幫助長光收集各種地方情報協助指揮判斷戰況可是他跟其他的教召員一樣只接受步槍兵的訓練沒有人協助他複習情報士官、情搜相關專業的訓練\n180954\t206519\t所以是不是說這是在這個新制DP的這個教召員他們所提出來的這些意見那兩年過去了失敗了兩年對於這些剛剛我所提到的ABC教召員所提到這個問題我們有在做改進嗎?看起來我們的訓練內容是非常的不矜持跟委員報告委員指教的我認為我有也有\n208661\t228934\t相當的認同就是說我們後備軍人的這個訓練因為從我們過去我們今年才開始實施一年期的EWE的從4個月才到一年期的EWE那後備軍人的這個訓練的這個部分如何讓他訓練能夠扎實然後能夠\n232202\t244675\t有效的形成站立,這個部分是我們的一個非常重大的一個挑戰。那不但只是訓練部分,那還有裝備等等。那現在我想我們會從基層幹部來\n250151\t278303\t就是說他有一個後備戰略形成他要有一定人數的基層幹部那這個基層幹部的這個能力呢要把他變成是一個志願役然後他來帶領這些役這些過去的軍事訓練役的這個人那這樣子才能夠形成一個有效的戰力那所以從基層幹部能力的補時這一點就開始要做起那訓練的這一個部分呢確實我想從一開始\n279944\t296269\t展開這個新式的教召確實還是有一些問題存在,但是我們不斷地去改進這個新式教召的這個內容,那將這個新式教召的內容把它從這個也就是說讓它\n297429\t312675\t不管是在實彈的這個射擊上面還有各種的這個核武實彈化訓練要求的射擊的姿勢姿態然後戰鬥的這個射擊方式那一直到這個野外\n313655\t335720\t來素飲等等,我們現在不斷地在加強,所以訓練的這個強度會逐漸來加強。也就是說,總的來講,那另外我們裝備也要到位,裝備也要到位。所以我們從基層幹部的捕食,然後教召的這個強度加強,那一直到我們現在建軍的這個裡面將這個\n339021\t361853\t這個後備軍人的裝備也列為優先的建軍內容項目之一。希望透過這三個部分,我們希望能夠來形成一個有戰鬥力的後備部隊。這是我們現在國防部屬於一個重要的政策項目。\n362273\t376465\t是,部長剛剛你提到這個裝備,不單裝備還有武器,像過去我們在叫招的時候,我們是單位之間互相借用這個武器跟裝備,也就是說我們後備單位是沒有自己的武器跟裝備,這情況有改善嗎?請問。裝備現在的籌貨,列為我們現在這個\n384383\t398326\t三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、\n413653\t414364\t可以改進的空間。\n415185\t439512\tOK 好 謝謝部長所以我們現在就要找我們所採取的就是就地動員、就地編制、就地訓練、就地守備的這個方式那這部分我們當然是非常的這個肯定那當然我們動員署其中成立最主要有一個很重要的這個目標就是長後合一那我們有做到長後合一嗎我們的長輩軍人跟後輩軍人我們有曾經有過協同作戰的這個演習嗎 有嗎 請問\n444173\t449515\t這是我們的目標之一,我們有做到嗎?就是在漢光的時候我們有納入,那平常訓練的時候、平常教招的時候是沒有的嗎?\n456704\t477511\t平常叫召的時候剛剛您講的就是我們現在拉到那個現地去那讓他去熟悉這戰場的環境然後讓他了解然後來進行他熟悉他的戰鬥位置那這樣子的方式來進行至少就叫召了十四天是沒有辦法\n478231\t490293\t就跟像漢光演習這樣子來進行但我們就會到他的現地的位置讓他去熟悉他應該要有的守備位置這樣子\n491275\t511890\t市長,我有給一個建議,像新加坡,其實新加坡跟台灣非常的這個類似,它也有戰備軍人的這個回訊。那之前我有看過這個韓剛明少將他有提到就是說,像新加坡他一樣也是14天的這個,他們叫回訊,我們叫叫招,他們叫回訊,他們說這些叫招員呢,\n512230\t521193\t委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n526335\t550612\t跟委員報告新加坡這個部分我跟新加坡相關的人已經有談過好多次了他們最重要的就是說他們18歲當兵的時候他們把他形成一組的人力之後他們就會從中拔走那個幹部然後從中拔走幹部之後他們就這一組會用一個他們自己的一個比如說LINE或者是一個社群的平台來聯絡\n551753\t569346\t那所以他們會隨時可以進行動員然後這一些小組的幹部就會通知這些人馬上去報導他有時候光報導但是不實施教召有時候報導以後把衣服穿好然後就回家有時候是報導以後再加實驗的訓練他用各種的方式來進行這樣的動員演練這確實是值得我們學習的地方\n574549\t601016\t因為我有看過他相關的這個報導我是覺得確實部長您所講的他的新加坡經驗真的是很值得我們去學習像他也擔心馬來西亞他也擔心印尼他周邊也有很多的這個強國所以他們的全民的這方面的這個意識這防疫的意識其實是非常強的這國家意識也是非常的強而且他們這個在教招的時候不是單純就只有自己在\n602397\t629759\t在做這個所謂訓練,就是教召員的訓練,他們可能還會結合民間。好像全國都有這樣子的一個想法,就是保家衛國的這個想法。我在想說這個部分,新加坡經驗很值得我們去了解跟學習。好,那時間到了以上,謝謝。是,謝謝蚊子,我們,因為新加坡它地方比較小啦,這一點,但是我們要學習它的這個方法論是應該的,是。\n635890\t638120\t接下來請黃仁委員上台質詢。\n","txt":"謝謝主席。有請顧部長。請顧部長。羅遠豪\n委員王鴻薇\n三、審查本院委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委\n所以國防部才在2021年的時候推動這個全動數的這個改組而且在2022年的時候後備軍人叫招的這個訓練我們有更新了這個計畫到目前為止我們已經試辦了兩年然後在明年會正式來上路\n我記得之前我有看到一份報導也就是在這個新制剛開始的時候那時候被認為是有史以來最硬的這個教召那教召第一批的這個教召員曾經受過一些媒體的這個訪問那我列出幾個例子可能要待會兒可能要麻煩國防部長來回答一下因為他就說像過去的話我們就職的教召都是在營區裡面\n委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2\n槍、榴彈都沒有打過。這是新制的時候,這是第一批的時候。有一位教召員B呢,他就說他那時候是擔任船令兵,作為來講他是要練習背上這個所謂拐拐無限電機,可是他在教召訓練14天裡面,一次都沒有背過。\n那有個教召員C呢他說他在教召編輯裡面他是被分配為營級的這個情報士官工作應該是幫助長光收集各種地方情報協助指揮判斷戰況可是他跟其他的教召員一樣只接受步槍兵的訓練沒有人協助他複習情報士官、情搜相關專業的訓練\n所以是不是說這是在這個新制DP的這個教召員他們所提出來的這些意見那兩年過去了失敗了兩年對於這些剛剛我所提到的ABC教召員所提到這個問題我們有在做改進嗎?看起來我們的訓練內容是非常的不矜持跟委員報告委員指教的我認為我有也有\n相當的認同就是說我們後備軍人的這個訓練因為從我們過去我們今年才開始實施一年期的EWE的從4個月才到一年期的EWE那後備軍人的這個訓練的這個部分如何讓他訓練能夠扎實然後能夠\n有效的形成站立,這個部分是我們的一個非常重大的一個挑戰。那不但只是訓練部分,那還有裝備等等。那現在我想我們會從基層幹部來\n就是說他有一個後備戰略形成他要有一定人數的基層幹部那這個基層幹部的這個能力呢要把他變成是一個志願役然後他來帶領這些役這些過去的軍事訓練役的這個人那這樣子才能夠形成一個有效的戰力那所以從基層幹部能力的補時這一點就開始要做起那訓練的這一個部分呢確實我想從一開始\n展開這個新式的教召確實還是有一些問題存在,但是我們不斷地去改進這個新式教召的這個內容,那將這個新式教召的內容把它從這個也就是說讓它\n不管是在實彈的這個射擊上面還有各種的這個核武實彈化訓練要求的射擊的姿勢姿態然後戰鬥的這個射擊方式那一直到這個野外\n來素飲等等,我們現在不斷地在加強,所以訓練的這個強度會逐漸來加強。也就是說,總的來講,那另外我們裝備也要到位,裝備也要到位。所以我們從基層幹部的捕食,然後教召的這個強度加強,那一直到我們現在建軍的這個裡面將這個\n這個後備軍人的裝備也列為優先的建軍內容項目之一。希望透過這三個部分,我們希望能夠來形成一個有戰鬥力的後備部隊。這是我們現在國防部屬於一個重要的政策項目。\n是,部長剛剛你提到這個裝備,不單裝備還有武器,像過去我們在叫招的時候,我們是單位之間互相借用這個武器跟裝備,也就是說我們後備單位是沒有自己的武器跟裝備,這情況有改善嗎?請問。裝備現在的籌貨,列為我們現在這個\n三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、\n可以改進的空間。\nOK 好 謝謝部長所以我們現在就要找我們所採取的就是就地動員、就地編制、就地訓練、就地守備的這個方式那這部分我們當然是非常的這個肯定那當然我們動員署其中成立最主要有一個很重要的這個目標就是長後合一那我們有做到長後合一嗎我們的長輩軍人跟後輩軍人我們有曾經有過協同作戰的這個演習嗎 有嗎 請問\n這是我們的目標之一,我們有做到嗎?就是在漢光的時候我們有納入,那平常訓練的時候、平常教招的時候是沒有的嗎?\n平常叫召的時候剛剛您講的就是我們現在拉到那個現地去那讓他去熟悉這戰場的環境然後讓他了解然後來進行他熟悉他的戰鬥位置那這樣子的方式來進行至少就叫召了十四天是沒有辦法\n就跟像漢光演習這樣子來進行但我們就會到他的現地的位置讓他去熟悉他應該要有的守備位置這樣子\n市長,我有給一個建議,像新加坡,其實新加坡跟台灣非常的這個類似,它也有戰備軍人的這個回訊。那之前我有看過這個韓剛明少將他有提到就是說,像新加坡他一樣也是14天的這個,他們叫回訊,我們叫叫招,他們叫回訊,他們說這些叫招員呢,\n委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n跟委員報告新加坡這個部分我跟新加坡相關的人已經有談過好多次了他們最重要的就是說他們18歲當兵的時候他們把他形成一組的人力之後他們就會從中拔走那個幹部然後從中拔走幹部之後他們就這一組會用一個他們自己的一個比如說LINE或者是一個社群的平台來聯絡\n那所以他們會隨時可以進行動員然後這一些小組的幹部就會通知這些人馬上去報導他有時候光報導但是不實施教召有時候報導以後把衣服穿好然後就回家有時候是報導以後再加實驗的訓練他用各種的方式來進行這樣的動員演練這確實是值得我們學習的地方\n因為我有看過他相關的這個報導我是覺得確實部長您所講的他的新加坡經驗真的是很值得我們去學習像他也擔心馬來西亞他也擔心印尼他周邊也有很多的這個強國所以他們的全民的這方面的這個意識這防疫的意識其實是非常強的這國家意識也是非常的強而且他們這個在教招的時候不是單純就只有自己在\n在做這個所謂訓練,就是教召員的訓練,他們可能還會結合民間。好像全國都有這樣子的一個想法,就是保家衛國的這個想法。我在想說這個部分,新加坡經驗很值得我們去了解跟學習。好,那時間到了以上,謝謝。是,謝謝蚊子,我們,因為新加坡它地方比較小啦,這一點,但是我們要學習它的這個方法論是應該的,是。\n接下來請黃仁委員上台質詢。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.309 --> 00:01.450\n謝謝主席。有請顧部長。請顧部長。羅遠豪\n\n00:11.011 --> 00:11.131\n委員王鴻薇\n\n00:31.252 --> 00:41.298\n三、審查本院委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委\n\n00:48.963 --> 00:53.749\n所以國防部才在2021年的時候推動這個全動數的這個改組而且在2022年的時候後備軍人叫招的這個訓練我們有更新了這個計畫到目前為止我們已經試辦了兩年然後在明年會正式來上路\n\n01:07.325 --> 01:23.614\n我記得之前我有看到一份報導也就是在這個新制剛開始的時候那時候被認為是有史以來最硬的這個教召那教召第一批的這個教召員曾經受過一些媒體的這個訪問那我列出幾個例子可能要待會兒可能要麻煩國防部長來回答一下因為他就說像過去的話我們就職的教召都是在營區裡面\n\n01:35.720 --> 01:45.631\n委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n\n01:51.477 --> 01:53.879\n二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2二、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2\n\n02:14.318 --> 02:34.553\n槍、榴彈都沒有打過。這是新制的時候,這是第一批的時候。有一位教召員B呢,他就說他那時候是擔任船令兵,作為來講他是要練習背上這個所謂拐拐無限電機,可是他在教召訓練14天裡面,一次都沒有背過。\n\n02:35.273 --> 02:59.193\n那有個教召員C呢他說他在教召編輯裡面他是被分配為營級的這個情報士官工作應該是幫助長光收集各種地方情報協助指揮判斷戰況可是他跟其他的教召員一樣只接受步槍兵的訓練沒有人協助他複習情報士官、情搜相關專業的訓練\n\n03:00.954 --> 03:26.519\n所以是不是說這是在這個新制DP的這個教召員他們所提出來的這些意見那兩年過去了失敗了兩年對於這些剛剛我所提到的ABC教召員所提到這個問題我們有在做改進嗎?看起來我們的訓練內容是非常的不矜持跟委員報告委員指教的我認為我有也有\n\n03:28.661 --> 03:48.934\n相當的認同就是說我們後備軍人的這個訓練因為從我們過去我們今年才開始實施一年期的EWE的從4個月才到一年期的EWE那後備軍人的這個訓練的這個部分如何讓他訓練能夠扎實然後能夠\n\n03:52.202 --> 04:04.675\n有效的形成站立,這個部分是我們的一個非常重大的一個挑戰。那不但只是訓練部分,那還有裝備等等。那現在我想我們會從基層幹部來\n\n04:10.151 --> 04:38.303\n就是說他有一個後備戰略形成他要有一定人數的基層幹部那這個基層幹部的這個能力呢要把他變成是一個志願役然後他來帶領這些役這些過去的軍事訓練役的這個人那這樣子才能夠形成一個有效的戰力那所以從基層幹部能力的補時這一點就開始要做起那訓練的這一個部分呢確實我想從一開始\n\n04:39.944 --> 04:56.269\n展開這個新式的教召確實還是有一些問題存在,但是我們不斷地去改進這個新式教召的這個內容,那將這個新式教召的內容把它從這個也就是說讓它\n\n04:57.429 --> 05:12.675\n不管是在實彈的這個射擊上面還有各種的這個核武實彈化訓練要求的射擊的姿勢姿態然後戰鬥的這個射擊方式那一直到這個野外\n\n05:13.655 --> 05:35.720\n來素飲等等,我們現在不斷地在加強,所以訓練的這個強度會逐漸來加強。也就是說,總的來講,那另外我們裝備也要到位,裝備也要到位。所以我們從基層幹部的捕食,然後教召的這個強度加強,那一直到我們現在建軍的這個裡面將這個\n\n05:39.021 --> 06:01.853\n這個後備軍人的裝備也列為優先的建軍內容項目之一。希望透過這三個部分,我們希望能夠來形成一個有戰鬥力的後備部隊。這是我們現在國防部屬於一個重要的政策項目。\n\n06:02.273 --> 06:16.465\n是,部長剛剛你提到這個裝備,不單裝備還有武器,像過去我們在叫招的時候,我們是單位之間互相借用這個武器跟裝備,也就是說我們後備單位是沒有自己的武器跟裝備,這情況有改善嗎?請問。裝備現在的籌貨,列為我們現在這個\n\n06:24.383 --> 06:38.326\n三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等2三、審查本院委員黃仁等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、\n\n06:53.653 --> 06:54.364\n可以改進的空間。\n\n06:55.185 --> 07:19.512\nOK好謝謝部長所以我們現在就要找我們所採取的就是就地動員、就地編制、就地訓練、就地守備的這個方式那這部分我們當然是非常的這個肯定那當然我們動員署其中成立最主要有一個很重要的這個目標就是長後合一那我們有做到長後合一嗎我們的長輩軍人跟後輩軍人我們有曾經有過協同作戰的這個演習嗎有嗎請問\n\n07:24.173 --> 07:29.515\n這是我們的目標之一,我們有做到嗎?就是在漢光的時候我們有納入,那平常訓練的時候、平常教招的時候是沒有的嗎?\n\n07:36.704 --> 07:57.511\n平常叫召的時候剛剛您講的就是我們現在拉到那個現地去那讓他去熟悉這戰場的環境然後讓他了解然後來進行他熟悉他的戰鬥位置那這樣子的方式來進行至少就叫召了十四天是沒有辦法\n\n07:58.231 --> 08:10.293\n就跟像漢光演習這樣子來進行但我們就會到他的現地的位置讓他去熟悉他應該要有的守備位置這樣子\n\n08:11.275 --> 08:31.890\n市長,我有給一個建議,像新加坡,其實新加坡跟台灣非常的這個類似,它也有戰備軍人的這個回訊。那之前我有看過這個韓剛明少將他有提到就是說,像新加坡他一樣也是14天的這個,他們叫回訊,我們叫叫招,他們叫回訊,他們說這些叫招員呢,\n\n08:32.230 --> 08:41.193\n委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇等24人、委員王鴻薇\n\n08:46.335 --> 09:10.612\n跟委員報告新加坡這個部分我跟新加坡相關的人已經有談過好多次了他們最重要的就是說他們18歲當兵的時候他們把他形成一組的人力之後他們就會從中拔走那個幹部然後從中拔走幹部之後他們就這一組會用一個他們自己的一個比如說LINE或者是一個社群的平台來聯絡\n\n09:11.753 --> 09:29.346\n那所以他們會隨時可以進行動員然後這一些小組的幹部就會通知這些人馬上去報導他有時候光報導但是不實施教召有時候報導以後把衣服穿好然後就回家有時候是報導以後再加實驗的訓練他用各種的方式來進行這樣的動員演練這確實是值得我們學習的地方\n\n09:34.549 --> 10:01.016\n因為我有看過他相關的這個報導我是覺得確實部長您所講的他的新加坡經驗真的是很值得我們去學習像他也擔心馬來西亞他也擔心印尼他周邊也有很多的這個強國所以他們的全民的這方面的這個意識這防疫的意識其實是非常強的這國家意識也是非常的強而且他們這個在教招的時候不是單純就只有自己在\n\n10:02.397 --> 10:29.759\n在做這個所謂訓練,就是教召員的訓練,他們可能還會結合民間。好像全國都有這樣子的一個想法,就是保家衛國的這個想法。我在想說這個部分,新加坡經驗很值得我們去了解跟學習。好,那時間到了以上,謝謝。是,謝謝蚊子,我們,因為新加坡它地方比較小啦,這一點,但是我們要學習它的這個方法論是應該的,是。\n\n10:35.890 --> 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