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00:02:03,367\n議案一層欄參考原則明定各項勞動權益還有8月也會針對中央機關辦理這一個法制宣導活動那也是三個部會一起所以我們會從明年度的總預算看得出來政府要帶頭來做改善並且你可以承諾說一半以上的機關在明年就可以做到內部至少一次的不定期集合嗎\n\n6\n00:02:04,508 --> 00:02:04,568\n主席\n\n7\n00:02:21,397 --> 00:02:37,136\n再來因為您近期內也有說要找經濟部合作會利用審查國內的上市上櫃投資案件要求應先派遣瞭解派遣跟勞務承攬的廠商有沒有手法作為採購的評估還說跟經濟部也要來\n\n8\n00:02:41,201 --> 00:02:41,221\n議員﹚陳菁\n\n9\n00:03:05,617 --> 00:03:28,153\n不可能欸因為委員抱歉公司法是經濟部主管發動方一定要是經濟部我們只能進所以您還是維持在宣導嗎我只能盡量的呼籲對然後希望那個企業能夠善盡社會責任這樣子對所以其實不會有白紙黑字的管理依據出來事實上\n\n10\n00:03:29,554 --> 00:03:54,577\n因為針對上市櫃企業也非我能夠行政命令去對它做是我們只能盡量來呼籲主導永續發展的主要權責是金管會金管會去年也開始做了上市櫃公司永續發展行動方案所以會去推出一個修正版本的上市櫃公司永續發展行動方案2.0所以你這樣子落實吧\n\n11\n00:03:55,538 --> 00:04:19,046\n派遣員工、非典型員工的勞動條件合法依據的調查、稽查結果您會希望跟經濟部還有金管會溝通如何的落實在他們的永續報告書中嗎?我們現在正在努力希望ESG納入勞權指標這個我們確實也希望能夠得到金管會跟經濟部的支持所以您規劃的時間點大約是?\n\n12\n00:04:21,687 --> 00:04:23,227\n我勞動部5月2日有召開諮詢會說共識印度移工人力優先剛有提到了跟很多位委員講是製造業的小規模事辦\n\n13\n00:04:42,352 --> 00:04:57,803\n可是我們都知道製造業的工作性質多屬於做多少算多少的承攬性質所以開放製造業的印度移工也想要請教部長有沒有可能再製造更多我國非典型就業的人口呢?\n\n14\n00:05:00,379 --> 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