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00:01:41,475\n是,我們目前遇到人力的問題,其實地方政府也、議會也都在反應,怎麼樣讓消防人力能夠適當的擴充。你這樣講好像是新北市的議會反應不夠用力,差996個人那個比例。雙方面都我們共同來努力,因為消防人力是共同的問題,而且是公共財,直接面對到地方的應變能量。這個問題不能放任,來,署長,我舉高雄市為例,很努力的在補齊,\n\n5\n00:01:48,679 --> 00:01:50,007\n現在已經差了大概\n\n6\n00:01:52,363 --> 00:02:10,710\n四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具、「消防法部分條文�\n\n7\n00:02:21,390 --> 00:02:39,240\n謝謝李委員的關心剛好這兩位遜職的弟兄都是在李委員的選區裡面第一個我們按照消防署給他的撫恤是沒有問題的那第二個就是家屬有要求就是他們自己的家屬第一個要調到這個這個高雄市的消防局\n\n8\n00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:50,903\n三、審查委員李姓消防員等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。四、審查委員周智慧等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。五、審查委員周智慧等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。\n\n9\n00:03:06,107 --> 00:03:32,065\n謝謝部長的安排當然對於罹難的家屬我們感到非常的遺憾對於罹難的弟兄我們感到非常的遺憾之外那部裡面緊急的做這些安排我想也要讓社會也要讓所有的我們的消防弟兄知道那我們有快速的做了這一個安排另外針對吹哨者條款我想吹哨者條款這個定義非常的\n\n10\n00:03:32,867 --> 00:03:56,086\n在我們這個消防法裡面的定義非常的明確公司治理他當然對於他的成本控管空間等等的他有他的安排為了他公司的治理但是過去的老闆們把這個公司的治理甚至把這些危害的物品把他也當成治理的項目之一而沒有\n\n11\n00:03:57,247 --> 00:04:03,012\n三、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。五、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。\n\n12\n00:04:26,590 --> 00:04:47,223\n必須附有相關的行則,我們也在這邊表達支持。另外,有一個議題會比較複雜一點,牽涉到的問題是有一些公務單位,比如說違章工廠。在我們消防安檢的時候,遇到違章工廠署長,我們通常會有怎麼樣的處置?\n\n13\n00:04:48,764 --> 00:04:59,212\n跟委員報告我們是以實際用途來要求設置消防安全設備那我已經關心的就是設備怎麼設違章工廠的部分那經濟部他的特登工廠他有個專業的輔導那有經費的一個補助那這個經費補助我們結合消防設備司事來幫忙設計他的設備的內容然後取得到國家的資源的協助來強化他的消防安全\n\n14\n00:05:13,183 --> 00:05:32,567\n目前同步在進行當中。對,我想還是要加強我們消防安檢的同仁的這個權利啦。那最後,我看到今天我們勞動部職安署署長也有來到現場。我想周署長應該沒有對消防單位做過職安的檢查吧?\n\n15\n00:05:33,318 --> 00:05:49,190\n報告委員,消防單位不適用我們職安法。對,所以消防員的這些職安的這些相關的規定,未來這個包含他們的這些安全衛生防護法要入法的時候,職安署是不是有相關的意見要作響?\n\n16\n00:05:50,691 --> 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02:50.903\n三、審查委員李姓消防員等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。四、審查委員周智慧等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。五、審查委員周智慧等17人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。\n\n03:06.107 --> 03:32.065\n謝謝部長的安排當然對於罹難的家屬我們感到非常的遺憾對於罹難的弟兄我們感到非常的遺憾之外那部裡面緊急的做這些安排我想也要讓社會也要讓所有的我們的消防弟兄知道那我們有快速的做了這一個安排另外針對吹哨者條款我想吹哨者條款這個定義非常的\n\n03:32.867 --> 03:56.086\n在我們這個消防法裡面的定義非常的明確公司治理他當然對於他的成本控管空間等等的他有他的安排為了他公司的治理但是過去的老闆們把這個公司的治理甚至把這些危害的物品把他也當成治理的項目之一而沒有\n\n03:57.247 --> 04:03.012\n三、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。四、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。五、審查委員蔡其昌等21人擬具《消防法部分條文修正草案》案。\n\n04:26.590 --> 04:47.223\n必須附有相關的行則,我們也在這邊表達支持。另外,有一個議題會比較複雜一點,牽涉到的問題是有一些公務單位,比如說違章工廠。在我們消防安檢的時候,遇到違章工廠署長,我們通常會有怎麼樣的處置?\n\n04:48.764 --> 04:59.212\n跟委員報告我們是以實際用途來要求設置消防安全設備那我已經關心的就是設備怎麼設違章工廠的部分那經濟部他的特登工廠他有個專業的輔導那有經費的一個補助那這個經費補助我們結合消防設備司事來幫忙設計他的設備的內容然後取得到國家的資源的協助來強化他的消防安全\n\n05:13.183 --> 05:32.567\n目前同步在進行當中。對,我想還是要加強我們消防安檢的同仁的這個權利啦。那最後,我看到今天我們勞動部職安署署長也有來到現場。我想周署長應該沒有對消防單位做過職安的檢查吧?\n\n05:33.318 --> 05:49.190\n報告委員,消防單位不適用我們職安法。對,所以消防員的這些職安的這些相關的規定,未來這個包含他們的這些安全衛生防護法要入法的時候,職安署是不是有相關的意見要作響?\n\n05:50.691 --> 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