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00:02:35,929\n當然我們外交部也會持續在這幾個領域在持續加強推動那今天我們討論這個這個勞務合作案當然這個是對於雙方人員交流也是有非常有助益所以我們也會配合這個主政單位勞動部他們的專業規劃\n\n7\n00:02:37,450 --> 00:02:37,590\n是,沒錯。\n\n8\n00:02:59,744 --> 00:03:18,522\n好其實我覺得我們也有義務在委員會當中讓大家知道這不只是我們國內生產力人力部分補足的問題其實在外交上面也有它外交必須所展現出來的一些成果或者是面向讓國人知道好謝謝副市長請回我現在有請我們的這個勞動部請何部長\n\n9\n00:03:26,876 --> 00:03:45,911\n部長好,我想其實這個人力的短缺的問題,不只是在場大家都知道,全台灣都知道。如果我們從現在人力缺口來看,根據現在勞動部的113年的第二次人力需求調查會發現,我們的人力需求一直都是呈現不夠的狀態。\n\n10\n00:03:46,912 --> 00:04:15,443\n那麼也不是說我們現在有人想找工作找不到工作或者是說其實想要找工作的人他其實的需求不太一樣包括我們今年可以看到的是我們的這個所謂失業率的部分也是24年來新低也言下之意這樣的人力的缺口在台灣內部他會出現的是也許台灣民眾講白了他就是不選擇這樣的類別所以我們必須靠移工來補足\n\n11\n00:04:16,263 --> 00:04:17,144\n市長,您面對的應該是整個產業面的人力需求對不對?\n\n12\n00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:59,614\n好所以今天我們在這裡討論這樣的一個人力需求的時候他是業界需要的嗎?從印度簽訂這個MOU是業界需要的嗎?我想這個是最重要的那如果是業界產業需要而整個我們的人力上面又出現這樣的一個缺口因為包括今天蠻巧的經濟委員會你可能不知道他所命的題目叫做面對國營事業未來10年人力嚴重斷層之因應作為\n\n13\n00:05:03,317 --> 00:05:25,779\n所以你就會發現說全台灣在各個產業都需要人力的補充跟補足那麼在這個部分我們針對去簽訂了這個印度的MOU部長怎麼來看這樣的人力的部分可以有效的補上然後讓這個每年至少4萬的人數的缺工對產業鏈上面可以給予哪些幫助\n\n14\n00:05:27,941 --> 00:05:44,856\n我們在諮詢會議裡面就是發現業界其實表示了高度的興趣啦尤其是製造業甚至營造業這樣子的產業啦那事實上印度移工他們在這方面他們也是向全球輸出的現在他們全球移工輸出高達1800萬人\n\n15\n00:05:46,537 --> 00:06:02,903\n所以他們是非常具有國際經驗的移工輸出經驗那在這個我們國內的產業的這樣的互補性上所以我們初期一定是以製造業先為主我們希望能夠很快的媒合然後然後能夠在這方面能夠讓產業補足人力的缺口\n\n16\n00:06:05,484 --> 00:06:26,031\n當然除了第一部會是以製造業為主而且在製造業的話可能在僱主這邊包括剛剛前面的委員都有聊到談到關心到的職聘的這樣一個問題但是接下來當然在國內有關於照顧類的家庭照顧類的這樣的家庭看護的移工其實大家也都在要求那麼\n\n17\n00:06:26,511 --> 00:06:43,620\n以這樣子來講的話因為在這一次的MOU簽訂當中的第二條就說了職類跟名額由我方來決定我相信回歸到一般民眾他們比較關心的會是家庭的看護移工的增加跟步驟那麼今天被查\n\n18\n00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:44,660\n部長怎麼來看?\n\n19\n00:07:10,999 --> 00:07:18,542\n委員這個部分當然在委員會裡面討論非常多可是我要再次強調如果這個提案通過的話會產生馬上產生53萬的移工缺口這是一個蠻龐大的數字那所以很多團體也擔心\n\n20\n00:07:27,365 --> 00:07:27,425\n主席\n\n21\n00:07:45,259 --> 00:08:12,671\n真的也拜託委員能夠三思啦在這個提案上面能夠做一點比較審酌的考量這樣子好本席把這個提出來就是我們一方面我們在審查然後外界甚至於有一些詆毀的聲音在講說從這個印度來的這個移工怎麼樣怎麼樣這些沒有經過查證的相關的這種質疑但是另外一方面呢包括在野黨委員的提案來勢洶洶啊這個缺工問題會更加明顯所以我在這邊也提醒這個勞動部\n\n22\n00:08:13,831 --> 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