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00:02:20,948\n好這個我想次長我相信應該看到6月8號這個我們海基會董事長鄭董事長這個因為過去海基會是基本上是隱形人那自從我們副院長做海基會董事長的話我感覺這個畫面比陸委會還多那他是不是某種程度也釋放了陸委會他的一些的訊息或者方向呢所以在6月8號我們特別看到了\n\n7\n00:02:21,368 --> 00:02:36,006\n除了制式的一些說法增加兩岸交流這個瞭解然後開放觀光交流是兩岸的市經時最重要他提到了一句話他說因為海運客運的部分\n\n8\n00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:36,727\n包委員有\n\n9\n00:02:51,815 --> 00:02:54,577\n現在有準備要包船嗎?我們這個董事長說的這個方向\n\n10\n00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:24,438\n政府部門跟陸委會還有相關單位會討論以後再處理這個目前還沒有到這個階段這個部分是我們看到鄭董事長一個訊息第二個因為陸委會\n\n11\n00:03:35,131 --> 00:03:36,772\n海基會是否在某種程度在政策面釋放了未來一個方向?\n\n12\n00:03:58,367 --> 00:04:25,388\n下一頁我們交通部負責這個需求面來評估到底有沒有需求來技術面甚至執行面這是你們的所以當戰戰面一開放的時候哇需求面執行面跟包括我們港口航班到底有沒有要跑到底港口的位置在哪裡我覺得這個部分你們要先期準備尤其在海基會董事長有這樣的一個訊息我覺得這個部分你們要先去準備盤點這個部分\n\n13\n00:04:26,849 --> 00:04:26,869\n韓國瑜議員\n\n14\n00:04:48,739 --> 00:05:11,809\n主要是大三通啦,你們要不要準備啦過去因為在疫情之前是兩岸各三個主要的港口嘛我們是基隆、台北、台中嘛那未來港口的選定,未來我講未來喔政策一走的時候選擇哪些港口然後再來經營者的意願啦\n\n15\n00:05:12,549 --> 00:05:31,621\n因為停了109年6月10號就完全停了嘛那這些船還跑不跑他是不是已經移到其他行業了去跑Uber了他不做了那這個部分我覺得這個經營業者你們自己技術執行你們要去盤點\n\n16\n00:05:32,261 --> 00:05:33,802\n第一,經過了快四年了,中間有些航商,譬如說利納倫就已經離開。\n\n17\n00:05:54,120 --> 00:06:21,240\n但是傳統有意願萬一未來開放還是有意願所以這個部分我們會先盤點兩邊的運力那第二個供需的部分需求也要考量考量我們以後配合政策會一起處理是因為我知道已經有一些過去的業者希望除了貨運之外能夠做客運但我們港港局有幫忙不管去申請去評估需求可能陸委會政策面還沒有決定那這也不是你們的問題\n\n18\n00:06:22,421 --> 00:06:40,718\n但是過去講說因為旅客兩岸之間這個交流啊尤其疫情的時候歸零了嘛所以這個本身客運就已經沒有需求了所以當時停了那當需求來的時候你們要隨著需求逐步調整對不對我們航港局那個業局長來講幾句話好不好\n\n19\n00:06:42,937 --> 00:07:04,076\n報告委員就如同我們剛剛次長回應的跟委員報告在技術面的部分不管是CIQS的配合或是相關的航線的申請等等這個部分我想我們都會預作準備當有這個政策上有所決定的時候我們都會協助業者盡快來恢復航線\n\n20\n00:07:05,177 --> 00:07:29,342\n那現在小三通是政策已經決定是已經開放了吧從112年1月份這個春節陸續就已經開放到現在呢1103已經開放一年多了那個政策沒有阻擋你沒有阻擋你沒有阻擋你兩邊在跑的過程中所以專業的需求下一頁我就覺得奇怪先再回去小三通\n\n21\n00:07:30,302 --> 00:07:38,753\n那現在政策不擋你了那人家金門縣政府的觀光他應該是觀光處吧已經給你從3月27號給你一個文\n\n22\n00:07:43,321 --> 00:08:10,429\n4月23號給你第二個文在談同樣的事情現在對開8班總共16個航班就明顯不夠他也跟你們請託拜託因為人已經到你說大山東目前沒有需求嘛對不對或者政策沒有決定那就先擺著那有需求的部分為什麼到現在已經6月了最後公文給你2到3個月他們只是希望\n\n23\n00:08:11,329 --> 00:08:21,623\n現在總共16個航班是不是先調整到20個航班我坦白講我不知道現在到底卡到什麼問題香港局你們有沒有收到這個公文\n\n24\n00:08:24,777 --> 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我不知道現在到底卡到什麼問題 香港局你們有沒有收到這個公文\n504777\t523909\t兩岸對開再多兩個航拍有人要做那這個部分到底遇到了什麼問題什麼時候準備回文可以跟我說一下是報告委員這個部分原來他的函是說要回到疫情前那我們疫情前其實是一天有18個往返比現在多10個往返\n524389\t524649\t不是啦 那我先問你啊\n540946\t560215\t3月27號這個公文啦好不好那你一個快一個月你又沒回別人3月27號公文講得很清楚是從假日開始16個航班變成20個嘛那你又沒有回啊那當然第二公文他要恢復到疫情前你覺得太多這樣的好不好你們專業考量我覺得當這個航班真的不夠了這個政策是開放的\n566698\t591424\t李克需求﹖而且大部分都是我們臺灣自己的鄉親嘛讓他能夠行的方便透過小山東這個能不能在多久能夠回答公文有報位這部分我們會盡快也會要縣政府這邊來確認他們的需求那另外公文的部分我們已經有請他們已經拖了兩個月啦好我們會加速我們加速再半個月啦給人家一個方向嘛好不好好的好的好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席有請我們交通部林次長請林次長各位次長魯院長這個先講一下我們台鐵的我們新四強號這個事件你們那個鏡頭現在影片出來我只是請教一下你們都是裝這種沒有智能的嗎就是看然後你們說這是事後事後發生災難掉影片\n欸你們我是不是可以拜託那個今天台鐵友來啊你們不要不要這樣搞好不好因為我們荒郊野外要拉路線如果你是走實體的話還花多少錢拉一個鏡頭到那裡去然後咧你們說一堆人要等有人監看沒有人會看啦怎麼會有人隨時每一秒都在看那這種一定你們現在告警系統也是AI技術嘛欸幾秒幾秒比對有什麼變化的時候自動響鈴這種嘛\n李卓人議員\n接下來我們要談一下那個海運的部分\n沒電了\n好 這個我想次長我相信應該看到6月8號這個我們海基會董事長鄭董事長這個因為過去海基會是基本上是隱形人那自從我們副院長做海基會董事長的話我感覺這個畫面比陸委會還多那他是不是某種程度也釋放了陸委會他的一些的訊息或者方向呢所以在6月8號我們特別看到了\n除了制式的一些說法增加兩岸交流這個瞭解然後開放觀光交流是兩岸的市經時最重要他提到了一句話他說因為海運客運的部分\n包委員有\n現在有準備要包船嗎?我們這個董事長說的這個方向\n政府部門跟陸委會還有相關單位會討論以後再處理這個目前還沒有到這個階段這個部分是我們看到鄭董事長一個訊息第二個因為陸委會\n海基會是否在某種程度在政策面釋放了未來一個方向?\n下一頁我們交通部負責這個需求面來評估到底有沒有需求來技術面甚至執行面這是你們的所以當戰戰面一開放的時候哇需求面執行面跟包括我們港口航班到底有沒有要跑到底港口的位置在哪裡我覺得這個部分你們要先期準備尤其在海基會董事長有這樣的一個訊息我覺得這個部分你們要先去準備盤點這個部分\n韓國瑜議員\n主要是大三通啦,你們要不要準備啦過去因為在疫情之前是兩岸各三個主要的港口嘛我們是基隆、台北、台中嘛那未來港口的選定,未來我講未來喔政策一走的時候選擇哪些港口然後再來經營者的意願啦\n因為停了109年6月10號就完全停了嘛那這些船還跑不跑他是不是已經移到其他行業了去跑Uber了他不做了那這個部分我覺得這個經營業者你們自己技術執行你們要去盤點\n第一,經過了快四年了,中間有些航商,譬如說利納倫就已經離開。\n但是傳統有意願萬一未來開放還是有意願所以這個部分我們會先盤點兩邊的運力那第二個供需的部分需求也要考量考量我們以後配合政策會一起處理是因為我知道已經有一些過去的業者希望除了貨運之外能夠做客運但我們港港局有幫忙不管去申請去評估需求可能陸委會政策面還沒有決定那這也不是你們的問題\n但是過去講說因為旅客兩岸之間這個交流啊尤其疫情的時候歸零了嘛所以這個本身客運就已經沒有需求了所以當時停了那當需求來的時候你們要隨著需求逐步調整對不對我們航港局那個業局長來講幾句話好不好\n報告委員就如同我們剛剛次長回應的跟委員報告在技術面的部分不管是CIQS的配合或是相關的航線的申請等等這個部分我想我們都會預作準備當有這個政策上有所決定的時候我們都會協助業者盡快來恢復航線\n那現在小三通是政策已經決定是已經開放了吧從112年1月份這個春節陸續就已經開放到現在呢1103已經開放一年多了那個政策沒有阻擋你沒有阻擋你沒有阻擋你兩邊在跑的過程中所以專業的需求下一頁我就覺得奇怪先再回去小三通\n那現在政策不擋你了那人家金門縣政府的觀光他應該是觀光處吧已經給你從3月27號給你一個文\n4月23號給你第二個文在談同樣的事情現在對開8班總共16個航班就明顯不夠他也跟你們請託拜託因為人已經到你說大山東目前沒有需求嘛對不對或者政策沒有決定那就先擺著那有需求的部分為什麼到現在已經6月了最後公文給你2到3個月他們只是希望\n現在總共16個航班是不是先調整到20個航班我坦白講 我不知道現在到底卡到什麼問題 香港局你們有沒有收到這個公文\n兩岸對開再多兩個航拍有人要做那這個部分到底遇到了什麼問題什麼時候準備回文可以跟我說一下是報告委員這個部分原來他的函是說要回到疫情前那我們疫情前其實是一天有18個往返比現在多10個往返\n不是啦 那我先問你啊\n3月27號這個公文啦好不好那你一個快一個月你又沒回別人3月27號公文講得很清楚是從假日開始16個航班變成20個嘛那你又沒有回啊那當然第二公文他要恢復到疫情前你覺得太多這樣的好不好你們專業考量我覺得當這個航班真的不夠了這個政策是開放的\n李克需求﹖而且大部分都是我們臺灣自己的鄉親嘛讓他能夠行的方便透過小山東這個能不能在多久能夠回答公文有報位這部分我們會盡快也會要縣政府這邊來確認他們的需求那另外公文的部分我們已經有請他們已經拖了兩個月啦好我們會加速我們加速再半個月啦給人家一個方向嘛好不好好的好的好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.069 --> 00:33.424\n好謝謝主席有請我們交通部林次長請林次長各位次長魯院長這個先講一下我們台鐵的我們新四強號這個事件你們那個鏡頭現在影片出來我只是請教一下你們都是裝這種沒有智能的嗎就是看然後你們說這是事後事後發生災難掉影片\n\n00:34.444 --> 00:57.361\n欸你們我是不是可以拜託那個今天台鐵友來啊你們不要不要這樣搞好不好因為我們荒郊野外要拉路線如果你是走實體的話還花多少錢拉一個鏡頭到那裡去然後咧你們說一堆人要等有人監看沒有人會看啦怎麼會有人隨時每一秒都在看那這種一定你們現在告警系統也是AI技術嘛欸幾秒幾秒比對有什麼變化的時候自動響鈴這種嘛\n\n01:02.819 --> 01:03.199\n李卓人議員\n\n01:19.735 --> 01:21.215\n接下來我們要談一下那個海運的部分\n\n01:49.946 --> 01:50.912\n沒電了\n\n01:52.810 --> 02:20.948\n好這個我想次長我相信應該看到6月8號這個我們海基會董事長鄭董事長這個因為過去海基會是基本上是隱形人那自從我們副院長做海基會董事長的話我感覺這個畫面比陸委會還多那他是不是某種程度也釋放了陸委會他的一些的訊息或者方向呢所以在6月8號我們特別看到了\n\n02:21.368 --> 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