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00:01:21,863\n我先請教一下那個復稅署宋署長你下轄這個我們有六區的國稅局啊局還有各區的計政所還有稅務同仁省一科、省二科、省三科還有所有同仁都可能在未來面對這些立法院擴權之後所進行的調查權或者這個執行權如果不出席他被處以刑責罰則\n\n4\n00:01:24,934 --> 00:01:29,607\n這部分就你署長您了解基層同仁的反應怎麼樣?\n\n5\n00:01:32,509 --> 00:01:54,765\n報告委員,這個整個法律如果真的,就是假設啦,真的生效了,然後整個規範也都出來的時候,原則上我們當然必須聽法律辦的,那現在總統公佈之後,現在是四限嘛,那四限在空中期還暫停主辦,如果還沒出來之後,那個你隨時在立法院以某某委員要把你的同仁調來,你這些同仁做何感想?\n\n6\n00:01:56,977 --> 00:02:13,607\n您們有沒有聽到他們的反應?目前是沒有特別去了解基層同仁的反應。您的未來所有的基層事務所還有國稅局,兩位局長也在,兩位局長可能了解,吳局長跟李局長。吳局長跟李局長。\n\n7\n00:02:16,528 --> 00:02:32,185\n兩位,你們這個,你們下轄很多計程所,好多審一科、審二科這些同仁都跟民眾的權益有相關系,對不對?又處理很多案件,那他們會不會面對未來立法院進行調查?那他們的感覺是怎麼樣?\n\n8\n00:02:33,847 --> 00:02:35,668\n同仁有沒有跟你反映過?目前倒是沒有但是就是\n\n9\n00:02:49,556 --> 00:03:16,844\n有一些稅務案件要解決的我們都會盡力然後是依法去課稅對但是現在調查權無限擴張嘛已經到違憲的階段嘛我可以把你這個國稅局下轄的基層所某主任把他調來或是審一科審二科的課長調來他不能拒絕出席你要去了解他們的感受這個可能是在違憲會宣判之前他可能會面對這些問題\n\n10\n00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:36,135\n李局長,同仁有沒有跟你反映過?目前我們沒有接受同仁的反映過。你要不要去了解?包括宋署長,你要去了解所有我們稅務同仁第一線的,他們可能面對到未來國會面臨到這種違憲濫權的這些調查或者質詢。那這個公安部署?\n\n11\n00:03:42,878 --> 00:03:48,805\n博主長,你嚇起來有臺北的官員,如果是官長、副官長什麼的,我們官務人員全部被調來問,他們會有這個疑慮?\n\n12\n00:03:52,117 --> 00:04:19,699\n跟委員報告,謝謝委員關切我們基層同仁對於這個違法調查這些可能產生的一些問題的關切不過因為我們基層同仁大家都逆來順受因為有效的法律我們就會去執行逆來順受,那是你逆來順受還是同仁逆來順受你要去了解同仁的感覺你要內部開個會去了解同仁的想法不是你逆來順受是是是\n\n13\n00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:39,718\n很多事情不能立案順受啊!不合理的就是抗爭,不合理就是要積極爭取啊!你那立案順受齁,這個我覺得有點不太能夠接受。如果在國會對你不合理的要求、不合理的質詢或是對你人身攻擊,你接受嗎?\n\n14\n00:04:40,831 --> 00:05:02,022\n不能接受嘛,對不對?你也可以要求你同仁逆來順受,那你可以要求你同仁逆來順受。我覺得這樣態度不行。我建議這個不管是官務啦、國庫署啦,或者是這個國產署、國稅局跟相關同仁做一些多談,了解他們的想法。因為他們可能未來會面臨到國會這種違法擴權的這種諮詢或者是調查。不能用逆來順受喔。\n\n15\n00:05:11,223 --> 00:05:36,158\n該具以例證就要具以例證該這個辯護的時候就要辯護所以我要拜託這個特別拜託馮署長你要去跟你們各館長各基層的人辦一個座談會了解他們的想法好那這個郭山鼠郭山鼠曾署長你有北區你有中區你有南區下面有很多這個相關的這個同仁在執行業務\n\n16\n00:05:37,711 --> 00:05:53,317\n他們質疑又非常多啊,樣態非常多,難免會有涉及一些這個,比方說立法院需要比較關心的事項,如果把你的這個南區分數長調來問,或者一個一個我們基層的同仁來調來問,他們的想法怎麼樣?\n\n17\n00:05:56,631 --> 00:06:14,412\n包括國產署所有的同仁都是依法行政那如果有各機關對於我們行政過程當中有質疑的部分我們都會一一釐清但是過去從來沒有基層的同仁到立法院來接受備詢但是未來有可能最基層的都會來立法院接受詢問\n\n18\n00:06:15,273 --> 00:06:40,294\n我想大部分應該都是署長會出席比較多,所以同仁都說署長要保重嗎?不是,現在擴權之後你所有同仁只要執行公務有相關因為調查需要都可以把他叫來立法院質詢欸不是你說你鄭署長來代表,不是這樣子欸所以你要了解這個立法院執行法通過對你們同仁在執行業務所受的影響對心裡面的衝擊我看你們好像都不了解\n\n19\n00:06:43,612 --> 00:07:09,710\n市長,最後30秒你應該要請所屬的相關的署長不管國庫、稅務、官務、國產署跟所有同仁、基層同仁做一些理解、做一些座談讓他們瞭解這個法律對他們的影響以及他們的感受是怎麼樣這點能不能做到?是的,謝謝委員的指教\n\n20\n00:07:11,152 --> 00:07:13,136\n我想其實在立法院那兩天的質詢裡面院長也都說了很清楚\n\n21\n00:07:21,243 --> 00:07:47,834\n也就是說對於這個法的一些做法以及為什麼要提出復議的理由等等那就涉及到機關還有我們相關的公務員甚至人民的一個權利會有受影響我想這個部分院長已經說得非常清楚我相信我們同仁也可以從詢答裡面去了解這個部分新的狀況你要了解現在復議失敗對不對對好總統公布之後我們提出釋憲暫停處分對不對但這個空窗期你如果公布之後這反流生效喔\n\n22\n00:07:48,354 --> 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03:16.844\n有一些稅務案件要解決的我們都會盡力然後是依法去課稅對但是現在調查權無限擴張嘛已經到違憲的階段嘛我可以把你這個國稅局下轄的基層所某主任把他調來或是審一科審二科的課長調來他不能拒絕出席你要去了解他們的感受這個可能是在違憲會宣判之前他可能會面對這些問題\n\n03:19.166 --> 03:36.135\n李局長,同仁有沒有跟你反映過?目前我們沒有接受同仁的反映過。你要不要去了解?包括宋署長,你要去了解所有我們稅務同仁第一線的,他們可能面對到未來國會面臨到這種違憲濫權的這些調查或者質詢。那這個公安部署?\n\n03:42.878 --> 03:48.805\n博主長,你嚇起來有臺北的官員,如果是官長、副官長什麼的,我們官務人員全部被調來問,他們會有這個疑慮?\n\n03:52.117 --> 04:19.699\n跟委員報告,謝謝委員關切我們基層同仁對於這個違法調查這些可能產生的一些問題的關切不過因為我們基層同仁大家都逆來順受因為有效的法律我們就會去執行逆來順受,那是你逆來順受還是同仁逆來順受你要去了解同仁的感覺你要內部開個會去了解同仁的想法不是你逆來順受是是是\n\n04:20.600 --> 04:39.718\n很多事情不能立案順受啊!不合理的就是抗爭,不合理就是要積極爭取啊!你那立案順受齁,這個我覺得有點不太能夠接受。如果在國會對你不合理的要求、不合理的質詢或是對你人身攻擊,你接受嗎?\n\n04:40.831 --> 05:02.022\n不能接受嘛,對不對?你也可以要求你同仁逆來順受,那你可以要求你同仁逆來順受。我覺得這樣態度不行。我建議這個不管是官務啦、國庫署啦,或者是這個國產署、國稅局跟相關同仁做一些多談,了解他們的想法。因為他們可能未來會面臨到國會這種違法擴權的這種諮詢或者是調查。不能用逆來順受喔。\n\n05:11.223 --> 05:36.158\n該具以例證就要具以例證該這個辯護的時候就要辯護所以我要拜託這個特別拜託馮署長你要去跟你們各館長各基層的人辦一個座談會了解他們的想法好那這個郭山鼠郭山鼠曾署長你有北區你有中區你有南區下面有很多這個相關的這個同仁在執行業務\n\n05:37.711 --> 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