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00:03:19,359\n這幾家九大公營行庫啊他們到底是跟進不跟進到底要不要實質來配合政府這個政策還是他們默許他們放任新清安還是任由他們的授信人員繼續再做再搭配建設公司銷售他們的漁屋然後提高房價\n\n9\n00:03:20,834 --> 00:03:46,164\n你認為呢?你有沒有辦法指揮這九大公營航庫?我相信公營航庫都會配合政府的政策去做那對於所採取的相關的經濟措施也會去落實執行的你就簡單一句說會配合我就跟你講說五月他就不配合啊五月那時候你講的時候五月就只有財政部講就應該算數喔\n\n10\n00:03:48,917 --> 00:04:04,684\n這九大公營行庫都是你任命的董事長總經理喔照說你交代一下就像地震他們就立刻站好好好檢討欸結果不然他繼續放他的款所以啊他們吃定了說啊光是你看我光是講這個戶數他想說我這麼大的戶數如何去去勾機欸\n\n11\n00:04:18,379 --> 00:04:45,076\n光是五月就撥貸八千兩百七十三戶八千兩百七十三戶撥貸六百三十六億元喔八千多五喔他就吃定了你說好啊好啊你財政部你怎麼去勾結這樣子的心態那八月還總放款數光是八月光是前五大行庫他們就撥貸超過一千億那\n\n12\n00:04:48,816 --> 00:05:04,497\n新興安房貸佔了636億,戶數這麼多,他想說來吧,要查你來查,錯了,查就是放款行窟的責任,你放的款你就去查,查出來把結果告訴我們,是不是應當這樣?\n\n13\n00:05:06,335 --> 00:05:30,571\n是應該這樣啊好啊那你跟他要求啊你什麼時候可以給我們給我們財政委員會一個報告說查的怎麼樣難道還要等到禮拜四難道要等行政院再下達命令嗎行政院已經很清楚包括我好幾位立委我們在對院長總質詢的時候都提到這個問題啊院長也深覺啊這確實是個問題因為\n\n14\n00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:52,646\n除了多代出這些假借新青安的名義其實在做炒作的以外最主要也拉高了房價光南港部長光南港這個都不是我演聳聽根據實價銷售這個紀錄光南港一坪就增加20萬\n\n15\n00:06:02,301 --> 00:06:21,666\n這幾個月來造價沒有增加建商地已經買了合建的契約也都簽了他成本沒增加之下一建坪多賣20萬如果我們一個上班族買個30坪就要多600萬等於同樣的房子同樣的地段\n\n16\n00:06:23,342 --> 00:06:36,354\n跟他買一戶在這兩個月新清安住長之下要多600萬多送這個建商一部保時捷你才有辦法取得這個房屋天吶一戶多600萬\n\n17\n00:06:40,253 --> 00:06:56,547\n我們生土小民辛辛苦苦的靠那一點微薄的薪水來過活我們竟然要籌集一部寶石節的價格送給建商才有辦法買得30坪的小房屋而且這個地方還是在南港\n\n18\n00:07:01,232 --> 00:07:11,526\n還不是在市中心那其他地方更是大概現在我們台北市平均房價光5月我們台北市整體平均房價高達97.55萬一百萬找4500塊錢\n\n19\n00:07:19,018 --> 00:07:46,440\n所以我認為這個情況要嘛財政部不做要不然你就說九大公營行庫董事長總經理以後不要來找你任命否則你任命他的你就要管得住他哪一個調皮搗蛋哪一個抵制你就把哪一個抄完掉不是嗎現在也該是這九大行庫董事長總經理大概任期也都快到了吧\n\n20\n00:07:47,418 --> 00:07:49,341\n五月份已經造成房價高漲\n\n21\n00:08:03,223 --> 00:08:21,721\n那也激增了8000多戶刑刑案擠出了他們趕上車的這一批那就看你6月份你的處理啦那我再來要跟你提不合時宜的稅制這個我講了三個月我一直在講說娛樂稅、印花稅、汽車關稅、機車貨物稅、保險品關稅\n\n22\n00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:43,573\n這些我認為很多不合時宜的應該整個取消或的條件那這個我最主要要跟你說你刪除富人稅的不對啦我希望第一步應該將刪除掉107年你已經刪除的\n\n23\n00:08:44,885 --> 00:08:58,980\n這個最高等級級距的這一級距我認為要恢復光恢復一年就可以增加100億更何況這個級距還不算最高你如果對我們台灣上萬位啊\n\n24\n00:09:01,478 --> 00:09:29,827\n這種數十億的富豪級我與他們一位代表郭台銘他就講了他說我們國家這個有很多需要建設很多需要救助的地方他說趕快來跟我們徵富人稅吧他也講了六七年我認為除了救急遽恢復以外再往上再增加幾個急遽對這些超級富豪他們願意拿出來啊那拿出來什麼用意\n\n25\n00:09:30,612 --> 00:09:49,648\n因為我們一方面勞保已經逐年財務惡化的情況都已經出現了很可能勞保在政府貼補之外還可能隨時會破產那另外我們需要稅金的地方多的人啊我們對身障者的保護\n\n26\n00:09:51,738 --> 00:10:18,797\n我們對青年貸款的協助太多啦所以我再一次呼籲部長你不能說輕輕鬆鬆隨便寫個兩張紙就答覆我說啊你沒要做就丟啦這個不重要錯了負能稅光你刪掉的那個級距一年就100億我希望這個級距立刻恢復同時往上再加幾個級距另外我認為啊這個\n\n27\n00:10:21,974 --> 00:10:25,798\n關稅汽車關稅為什麼一直跟你提欸裕隆這個阿斗啊我3個月前跟你講現在他又來了老毛病又復發他假借國產車的名義他現在在幫中共銷售汽車\n\n28\n00:10:41,226 --> 00:10:59,547\n他把中共的AMG車子以零組件進口化整為零在台灣組裝玉龍這10年來從2015年到今年他對外銷售率是零耶!外銷零!\n\n29\n00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:12,212\n結果他現在拼命在幫我們最大的敵人中共在幫他們銷售他們的車先前AMG車、油車賣了還不夠現在又進AMG的電動車天啊\n\n30\n00:11:19,944 --> 00:11:42,421\n電動車現在他打算以低價來打垮歐美電動車那你試想歐美日是我們自由聯盟的好朋友我們棄歐美日與不顧他們的電動車進來我們要增高價的關稅因為我們說我們要保護裕隆\n\n31\n00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:51,944\n結果這個阿斗就利用這一點他開了小門讓中國的車輛進來在他的保護之下低價據傾銷而且部長\n\n32\n00:11:55,003 --> 00:12:18,445\n中國的電動車這還有投資的問題耶上次我都講過啦好啦現在他大大落進來了所以我再一次跟部長說我們不應該再保護這個阿斗保護這個阿斗保護70年了還要保護他多久所以我認為這個關稅的部分汽車關稅的部分至少\n\n33\n00:12:20,964 --> 00:12:23,485\n關稅的部分除了除了稅之外其實還涉及到國內產業\n\n34\n00:12:40,134 --> 00:12:51,727\n那跟產業主管機關就很有關係所以這個部分我們可以洽詢經濟部的意見看要怎麼處理你又說經濟部意見你上次說了說要聽經濟部意見我跑去問了經濟部長他也說這個有疑慮他說要來問財政部長\n\n35\n00:13:01,089 --> 00:13:24,528\n那我乾脆約你們兩位你們兩位這樣啦主席不好意思齁我站最後30秒就好我乾脆就約你們兩位部長經濟部長財政部長那就到我辦公室你們兩個好好去喝咖啡好不好好謝謝王世堅委員的質詢今天發言委員均已詢答完畢現在進行所得稅部分條文修正草案預計宣讀時間為7分鐘\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n149\t2931\t主席,我請莊部長。要請莊部長。委員好。莊部長,這兩個月一個新的議題,就是關於新青南\n17236\t37213\t防彈那麼這恐怕會變成草房工具從5月份我們就談了那財政部也有答應信誓旦旦說一定會去做一些處理但是從5月你們喊說要加強勾基以來啊卻創下光5月\n42888\t65898\t這個新清安貸款的金額跟戶數是創下9個月來最高啦也就是說事實上你們是勾額不羈雷大雨小沒有實質的作為你所任命的9大行戶董事長總經理他們不當一回事結果\n69076\t89978\t反而我們立法院跟財政部的要求你們打算要去勾稽去做查額之後反而激出另外一波的這個新清安的貸款潮他們搶著上車\n93240\t119467\t那個部長如果是真的需要的青年的首構族這個我們沒話講可是現在所知道的並不然其實都已經被部分不肖建商透過人頭甚至很多炒作房屋的大戶他們也利用人頭\n121309\t141649\t來律用新清安貸款,那麼他們取得大量的房舍再去轉租。那這些情形,好啦,我們總諮詢之後,行政院有注意啦,行政院也打算這個禮拜四說要公布決策找你們去談,其實方向很簡單。\n144130\t171736\t行政院跟我們立法院看法我們幾位立委的看法我相信跟你們財政部的做法也都一樣都認為有一些共識結論就是說啊貸錢要嚴格審查那麼強化貸後的稽查管理還有要求他們簽自助的切結書但是我要請問你的就是說到底\n173906\t199359\t這幾家九大公營行庫啊他們到底是跟進不跟進到底要不要實質來配合政府這個政策還是他們默許他們放任新清安還是任由他們的授信人員繼續再做再搭配建設公司銷售他們的漁屋然後提高房價\n200834\t226164\t你認為呢?你有沒有辦法指揮這九大公營航庫?我相信公營航庫都會配合政府的政策去做那對於所採取的相關的經濟措施也會去落實執行的你就簡單一句說會配合我就跟你講說五月他就不配合啊五月那時候你講的時候五月就只有財政部講就應該算數喔\n228917\t244684\t這九大公營行庫都是你任命的董事長總經理喔照說你交代一下就像地震他們就立刻站好好好檢討欸結果不然他繼續放他的款所以啊他們吃定了說啊光是你看我光是講這個戶數他想說我這麼大的戶數如何去去勾機欸\n258379\t285076\t光是五月就撥貸八千兩百七十三戶八千兩百七十三戶撥貸六百三十六億元喔八千多五喔他就吃定了 你說 好啊 好啊 你財政部你怎麼去勾結這樣子的心態那八月還總放款數光是八月光是前五大行庫他們就撥貸超過一千億那\n288816\t304497\t新興安房貸佔了636億,戶數這麼多,他想說來吧,要查你來查,錯了,查就是放款行窟的責任,你放的款你就去查,查出來把結果告訴我們,是不是應當這樣?\n306335\t330571\t是應該這樣啊好啊那你跟他要求啊你什麼時候可以給我們給我們財政委員會一個報告說查的怎麼樣難道還要等到禮拜四難道要等行政院再下達命令嗎行政院已經很清楚包括我好幾位立委我們在對院長總質詢的時候都提到這個問題啊院長也深覺啊這確實是個問題因為\n333533\t352646\t除了多代出這些假借新青安的名義其實在做炒作的以外最主要也拉高了房價光南港部長光南港這個都不是我演聳聽根據實價銷售這個紀錄光南港一坪就增加20萬\n362301\t381666\t這幾個月來造價沒有增加建商地已經買了合建的契約也都簽了他成本沒增加之下一建坪多賣20萬如果我們一個上班族買個30坪就要多600萬等於同樣的房子同樣的地段\n383342\t396354\t跟他買一戶在這兩個月新清安住長之下要多600萬多送這個建商一部保時捷你才有辦法取得這個房屋天吶一戶多600萬\n400253\t416547\t我們生土小民辛辛苦苦的靠那一點微薄的薪水來過活我們竟然要籌集一部寶石節的價格送給建商才有辦法買得30坪的小房屋而且這個地方還是在南港\n421232\t431526\t還不是在市中心那其他地方更是大概現在我們台北市平均房價光5月我們台北市整體平均房價高達97.55萬一百萬找4500塊錢\n439018\t466440\t所以我認為這個情況要嘛財政部不做要不然你就說九大公營行庫董事長總經理以後不要來找你任命否則你任命他的你就要管得住他哪一個調皮搗蛋哪一個抵制你就把哪一個抄完掉不是嗎現在也該是這九大行庫董事長總經理大概任期也都快到了吧\n467418\t469341\t五月份已經造成房價高漲\n483223\t501721\t那也激增了8000多戶刑刑案擠出了他們趕上車的這一批那就看你6月份你的處理啦那我再來要跟你提不合時宜的稅制這個我講了三個月我一直在講說娛樂稅、印花稅、汽車關稅、機車貨物稅、保險品關稅\n507866\t523573\t這些我認為很多不合時宜的應該整個取消或的條件那這個我最主要要跟你說你刪除富人稅的不對啦我希望第一步應該將刪除掉107年你已經刪除的\n524885\t538980\t這個最高等級級距的這一級距我認為要恢復光恢復一年就可以增加100億更何況這個級距還不算最高你如果對我們台灣上萬位啊\n541478\t569827\t這種數十億的富豪級我與他們一位代表郭台銘他就講了他說我們國家這個有很多需要建設很多需要救助的地方他說趕快來跟我們徵富人稅吧他也講了六七年我認為除了救急遽恢復以外再往上再增加幾個急遽對這些超級富豪他們願意拿出來啊那拿出來什麼用意\n570612\t589648\t因為我們一方面勞保已經逐年財務惡化的情況都已經出現了很可能勞保在政府貼補之外還可能隨時會破產那另外我們需要稅金的地方多的人啊我們對身障者的保護\n591738\t618797\t我們對青年貸款的協助太多啦所以我再一次呼籲部長你不能說輕輕鬆鬆隨便寫個兩張紙就答覆我說啊你沒要做就丟啦這個不重要錯了負能稅光你刪掉的那個級距一年就100億我希望這個級距立刻恢復同時往上再加幾個級距另外我認為啊這個\n621974\t625798\t關稅 汽車關稅 為什麼一直跟你提 欸 裕隆這個阿斗啊 我3個月前跟你講 現在他又來了 老毛病又復發 他假借國產車的名義 他現在在幫中共銷售汽車\n641226\t659547\t他把中共的AMG車子以零組件進口化整為零在台灣組裝玉龍這10年來從2015年到今年他對外銷售率是零耶!外銷零!\n661228\t672212\t結果他現在拼命在幫我們最大的敵人中共在幫他們銷售他們的車先前AMG車、油車賣了還不夠現在又進AMG的電動車天啊\n679944\t702421\t電動車現在他打算以低價來打垮歐美電動車那你試想歐美日是我們自由聯盟的好朋友我們棄歐美日與不顧他們的電動車進來我們要增高價的關稅因為我們說我們要保護裕隆\n703320\t711944\t結果這個阿斗就利用這一點他開了小門讓中國的車輛進來在他的保護之下低價據傾銷而且部長\n715003\t738445\t中國的電動車這還有投資的問題耶上次我都講過啦好啦現在他大大落進來了所以我再一次跟部長說我們不應該再保護這個阿斗保護這個阿斗保護70年了還要保護他多久所以我認為這個關稅的部分汽車關稅的部分至少\n740964\t743485\t關稅的部分除了除了稅之外其實還涉及到國內產業\n760134\t771727\t那跟產業主管機關就很有關係所以這個部分我們可以洽詢經濟部的意見看要怎麼處理你又說經濟部意見你上次說了說要聽經濟部意見我跑去問了經濟部長他也說這個有疑慮他說要來問財政部長\n781089\t804528\t那我乾脆約你們兩位你們兩位這樣啦主席不好意思齁我站最後30秒就好我乾脆就約你們兩位部長經濟部長財政部長那就到我辦公室你們兩個好好去喝咖啡好不好好謝謝王世堅委員的質詢今天發言委員均已詢答完畢現在進行所得稅部分條文修正草案預計宣讀時間為7分鐘\n","txt":"主席,我請莊部長。要請莊部長。委員好。莊部長,這兩個月一個新的議題,就是關於新青南\n防彈那麼這恐怕會變成草房工具從5月份我們就談了那財政部也有答應信誓旦旦說一定會去做一些處理但是從5月你們喊說要加強勾基以來啊卻創下光5月\n這個新清安貸款的金額跟戶數是創下9個月來最高啦也就是說事實上你們是勾額不羈雷大雨小沒有實質的作為你所任命的9大行戶董事長總經理他們不當一回事結果\n反而我們立法院跟財政部的要求你們打算要去勾稽去做查額之後反而激出另外一波的這個新清安的貸款潮他們搶著上車\n那個部長如果是真的需要的青年的首構族這個我們沒話講可是現在所知道的並不然其實都已經被部分不肖建商透過人頭甚至很多炒作房屋的大戶他們也利用人頭\n來律用新清安貸款,那麼他們取得大量的房舍再去轉租。那這些情形,好啦,我們總諮詢之後,行政院有注意啦,行政院也打算這個禮拜四說要公布決策找你們去談,其實方向很簡單。\n行政院跟我們立法院看法我們幾位立委的看法我相信跟你們財政部的做法也都一樣都認為有一些共識結論就是說啊貸錢要嚴格審查那麼強化貸後的稽查管理還有要求他們簽自助的切結書但是我要請問你的就是說到底\n這幾家九大公營行庫啊他們到底是跟進不跟進到底要不要實質來配合政府這個政策還是他們默許他們放任新清安還是任由他們的授信人員繼續再做再搭配建設公司銷售他們的漁屋然後提高房價\n你認為呢?你有沒有辦法指揮這九大公營航庫?我相信公營航庫都會配合政府的政策去做那對於所採取的相關的經濟措施也會去落實執行的你就簡單一句說會配合我就跟你講說五月他就不配合啊五月那時候你講的時候五月就只有財政部講就應該算數喔\n這九大公營行庫都是你任命的董事長總經理喔照說你交代一下就像地震他們就立刻站好好好檢討欸結果不然他繼續放他的款所以啊他們吃定了說啊光是你看我光是講這個戶數他想說我這麼大的戶數如何去去勾機欸\n光是五月就撥貸八千兩百七十三戶八千兩百七十三戶撥貸六百三十六億元喔八千多五喔他就吃定了 你說 好啊 好啊 你財政部你怎麼去勾結這樣子的心態那八月還總放款數光是八月光是前五大行庫他們就撥貸超過一千億那\n新興安房貸佔了636億,戶數這麼多,他想說來吧,要查你來查,錯了,查就是放款行窟的責任,你放的款你就去查,查出來把結果告訴我們,是不是應當這樣?\n是應該這樣啊好啊那你跟他要求啊你什麼時候可以給我們給我們財政委員會一個報告說查的怎麼樣難道還要等到禮拜四難道要等行政院再下達命令嗎行政院已經很清楚包括我好幾位立委我們在對院長總質詢的時候都提到這個問題啊院長也深覺啊這確實是個問題因為\n除了多代出這些假借新青安的名義其實在做炒作的以外最主要也拉高了房價光南港部長光南港這個都不是我演聳聽根據實價銷售這個紀錄光南港一坪就增加20萬\n這幾個月來造價沒有增加建商地已經買了合建的契約也都簽了他成本沒增加之下一建坪多賣20萬如果我們一個上班族買個30坪就要多600萬等於同樣的房子同樣的地段\n跟他買一戶在這兩個月新清安住長之下要多600萬多送這個建商一部保時捷你才有辦法取得這個房屋天吶一戶多600萬\n我們生土小民辛辛苦苦的靠那一點微薄的薪水來過活我們竟然要籌集一部寶石節的價格送給建商才有辦法買得30坪的小房屋而且這個地方還是在南港\n還不是在市中心那其他地方更是大概現在我們台北市平均房價光5月我們台北市整體平均房價高達97.55萬一百萬找4500塊錢\n所以我認為這個情況要嘛財政部不做要不然你就說九大公營行庫董事長總經理以後不要來找你任命否則你任命他的你就要管得住他哪一個調皮搗蛋哪一個抵制你就把哪一個抄完掉不是嗎現在也該是這九大行庫董事長總經理大概任期也都快到了吧\n五月份已經造成房價高漲\n那也激增了8000多戶刑刑案擠出了他們趕上車的這一批那就看你6月份你的處理啦那我再來要跟你提不合時宜的稅制這個我講了三個月我一直在講說娛樂稅、印花稅、汽車關稅、機車貨物稅、保險品關稅\n這些我認為很多不合時宜的應該整個取消或的條件那這個我最主要要跟你說你刪除富人稅的不對啦我希望第一步應該將刪除掉107年你已經刪除的\n這個最高等級級距的這一級距我認為要恢復光恢復一年就可以增加100億更何況這個級距還不算最高你如果對我們台灣上萬位啊\n這種數十億的富豪級我與他們一位代表郭台銘他就講了他說我們國家這個有很多需要建設很多需要救助的地方他說趕快來跟我們徵富人稅吧他也講了六七年我認為除了救急遽恢復以外再往上再增加幾個急遽對這些超級富豪他們願意拿出來啊那拿出來什麼用意\n因為我們一方面勞保已經逐年財務惡化的情況都已經出現了很可能勞保在政府貼補之外還可能隨時會破產那另外我們需要稅金的地方多的人啊我們對身障者的保護\n我們對青年貸款的協助太多啦所以我再一次呼籲部長你不能說輕輕鬆鬆隨便寫個兩張紙就答覆我說啊你沒要做就丟啦這個不重要錯了負能稅光你刪掉的那個級距一年就100億我希望這個級距立刻恢復同時往上再加幾個級距另外我認為啊這個\n關稅 汽車關稅 為什麼一直跟你提 欸 裕隆這個阿斗啊 我3個月前跟你講 現在他又來了 老毛病又復發 他假借國產車的名義 他現在在幫中共銷售汽車\n他把中共的AMG車子以零組件進口化整為零在台灣組裝玉龍這10年來從2015年到今年他對外銷售率是零耶!外銷零!\n結果他現在拼命在幫我們最大的敵人中共在幫他們銷售他們的車先前AMG車、油車賣了還不夠現在又進AMG的電動車天啊\n電動車現在他打算以低價來打垮歐美電動車那你試想歐美日是我們自由聯盟的好朋友我們棄歐美日與不顧他們的電動車進來我們要增高價的關稅因為我們說我們要保護裕隆\n結果這個阿斗就利用這一點他開了小門讓中國的車輛進來在他的保護之下低價據傾銷而且部長\n中國的電動車這還有投資的問題耶上次我都講過啦好啦現在他大大落進來了所以我再一次跟部長說我們不應該再保護這個阿斗保護這個阿斗保護70年了還要保護他多久所以我認為這個關稅的部分汽車關稅的部分至少\n關稅的部分除了除了稅之外其實還涉及到國內產業\n那跟產業主管機關就很有關係所以這個部分我們可以洽詢經濟部的意見看要怎麼處理你又說經濟部意見你上次說了說要聽經濟部意見我跑去問了經濟部長他也說這個有疑慮他說要來問財政部長\n那我乾脆約你們兩位你們兩位這樣啦主席不好意思齁我站最後30秒就好我乾脆就約你們兩位部長經濟部長財政部長那就到我辦公室你們兩個好好去喝咖啡好不好好謝謝王世堅委員的質詢今天發言委員均已詢答完畢現在進行所得稅部分條文修正草案預計宣讀時間為7分鐘\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.149 --> 00:02.931\n主席,我請莊部長。要請莊部長。委員好。莊部長,這兩個月一個新的議題,就是關於新青南\n\n00:17.236 --> 00:37.213\n防彈那麼這恐怕會變成草房工具從5月份我們就談了那財政部也有答應信誓旦旦說一定會去做一些處理但是從5月你們喊說要加強勾基以來啊卻創下光5月\n\n00:42.888 --> 01:05.898\n這個新清安貸款的金額跟戶數是創下9個月來最高啦也就是說事實上你們是勾額不羈雷大雨小沒有實質的作為你所任命的9大行戶董事長總經理他們不當一回事結果\n\n01:09.076 --> 01:29.978\n反而我們立法院跟財政部的要求你們打算要去勾稽去做查額之後反而激出另外一波的這個新清安的貸款潮他們搶著上車\n\n01:33.240 --> 01:59.467\n那個部長如果是真的需要的青年的首構族這個我們沒話講可是現在所知道的並不然其實都已經被部分不肖建商透過人頭甚至很多炒作房屋的大戶他們也利用人頭\n\n02:01.309 --> 02:21.649\n來律用新清安貸款,那麼他們取得大量的房舍再去轉租。那這些情形,好啦,我們總諮詢之後,行政院有注意啦,行政院也打算這個禮拜四說要公布決策找你們去談,其實方向很簡單。\n\n02:24.130 --> 02:51.736\n行政院跟我們立法院看法我們幾位立委的看法我相信跟你們財政部的做法也都一樣都認為有一些共識結論就是說啊貸錢要嚴格審查那麼強化貸後的稽查管理還有要求他們簽自助的切結書但是我要請問你的就是說到底\n\n02:53.906 --> 03:19.359\n這幾家九大公營行庫啊他們到底是跟進不跟進到底要不要實質來配合政府這個政策還是他們默許他們放任新清安還是任由他們的授信人員繼續再做再搭配建設公司銷售他們的漁屋然後提高房價\n\n03:20.834 --> 03:46.164\n你認為呢?你有沒有辦法指揮這九大公營航庫?我相信公營航庫都會配合政府的政策去做那對於所採取的相關的經濟措施也會去落實執行的你就簡單一句說會配合我就跟你講說五月他就不配合啊五月那時候你講的時候五月就只有財政部講就應該算數喔\n\n03:48.917 --> 04:04.684\n這九大公營行庫都是你任命的董事長總經理喔照說你交代一下就像地震他們就立刻站好好好檢討欸結果不然他繼續放他的款所以啊他們吃定了說啊光是你看我光是講這個戶數他想說我這麼大的戶數如何去去勾機欸\n\n04:18.379 --> 04:45.076\n光是五月就撥貸八千兩百七十三戶八千兩百七十三戶撥貸六百三十六億元喔八千多五喔他就吃定了你說好啊好啊你財政部你怎麼去勾結這樣子的心態那八月還總放款數光是八月光是前五大行庫他們就撥貸超過一千億那\n\n04:48.816 --> 05:04.497\n新興安房貸佔了636億,戶數這麼多,他想說來吧,要查你來查,錯了,查就是放款行窟的責任,你放的款你就去查,查出來把結果告訴我們,是不是應當這樣?\n\n05:06.335 --> 05:30.571\n是應該這樣啊好啊那你跟他要求啊你什麼時候可以給我們給我們財政委員會一個報告說查的怎麼樣難道還要等到禮拜四難道要等行政院再下達命令嗎行政院已經很清楚包括我好幾位立委我們在對院長總質詢的時候都提到這個問題啊院長也深覺啊這確實是個問題因為\n\n05:33.533 --> 05:52.646\n除了多代出這些假借新青安的名義其實在做炒作的以外最主要也拉高了房價光南港部長光南港這個都不是我演聳聽根據實價銷售這個紀錄光南港一坪就增加20萬\n\n06:02.301 --> 06:21.666\n這幾個月來造價沒有增加建商地已經買了合建的契約也都簽了他成本沒增加之下一建坪多賣20萬如果我們一個上班族買個30坪就要多600萬等於同樣的房子同樣的地段\n\n06:23.342 --> 06:36.354\n跟他買一戶在這兩個月新清安住長之下要多600萬多送這個建商一部保時捷你才有辦法取得這個房屋天吶一戶多600萬\n\n06:40.253 --> 06:56.547\n我們生土小民辛辛苦苦的靠那一點微薄的薪水來過活我們竟然要籌集一部寶石節的價格送給建商才有辦法買得30坪的小房屋而且這個地方還是在南港\n\n07:01.232 --> 07:11.526\n還不是在市中心那其他地方更是大概現在我們台北市平均房價光5月我們台北市整體平均房價高達97.55萬一百萬找4500塊錢\n\n07:19.018 --> 07:46.440\n所以我認為這個情況要嘛財政部不做要不然你就說九大公營行庫董事長總經理以後不要來找你任命否則你任命他的你就要管得住他哪一個調皮搗蛋哪一個抵制你就把哪一個抄完掉不是嗎現在也該是這九大行庫董事長總經理大概任期也都快到了吧\n\n07:47.418 --> 07:49.341\n五月份已經造成房價高漲\n\n08:03.223 --> 08:21.721\n那也激增了8000多戶刑刑案擠出了他們趕上車的這一批那就看你6月份你的處理啦那我再來要跟你提不合時宜的稅制這個我講了三個月我一直在講說娛樂稅、印花稅、汽車關稅、機車貨物稅、保險品關稅\n\n08:27.866 --> 08:43.573\n這些我認為很多不合時宜的應該整個取消或的條件那這個我最主要要跟你說你刪除富人稅的不對啦我希望第一步應該將刪除掉107年你已經刪除的\n\n08:44.885 --> 08:58.980\n這個最高等級級距的這一級距我認為要恢復光恢復一年就可以增加100億更何況這個級距還不算最高你如果對我們台灣上萬位啊\n\n09:01.478 --> 09:29.827\n這種數十億的富豪級我與他們一位代表郭台銘他就講了他說我們國家這個有很多需要建設很多需要救助的地方他說趕快來跟我們徵富人稅吧他也講了六七年我認為除了救急遽恢復以外再往上再增加幾個急遽對這些超級富豪他們願意拿出來啊那拿出來什麼用意\n\n09:30.612 --> 09:49.648\n因為我們一方面勞保已經逐年財務惡化的情況都已經出現了很可能勞保在政府貼補之外還可能隨時會破產那另外我們需要稅金的地方多的人啊我們對身障者的保護\n\n09:51.738 --> 10:18.797\n我們對青年貸款的協助太多啦所以我再一次呼籲部長你不能說輕輕鬆鬆隨便寫個兩張紙就答覆我說啊你沒要做就丟啦這個不重要錯了負能稅光你刪掉的那個級距一年就100億我希望這個級距立刻恢復同時往上再加幾個級距另外我認為啊這個\n\n10:21.974 --> 10:25.798\n關稅汽車關稅為什麼一直跟你提欸裕隆這個阿斗啊我3個月前跟你講現在他又來了老毛病又復發他假借國產車的名義他現在在幫中共銷售汽車\n\n10:41.226 --> 10:59.547\n他把中共的AMG車子以零組件進口化整為零在台灣組裝玉龍這10年來從2015年到今年他對外銷售率是零耶!外銷零!\n\n11:01.228 --> 11:12.212\n結果他現在拼命在幫我們最大的敵人中共在幫他們銷售他們的車先前AMG車、油車賣了還不夠現在又進AMG的電動車天啊\n\n11:19.944 --> 11:42.421\n電動車現在他打算以低價來打垮歐美電動車那你試想歐美日是我們自由聯盟的好朋友我們棄歐美日與不顧他們的電動車進來我們要增高價的關稅因為我們說我們要保護裕隆\n\n11:43.320 --> 11:51.944\n結果這個阿斗就利用這一點他開了小門讓中國的車輛進來在他的保護之下低價據傾銷而且部長\n\n11:55.003 --> 12:18.445\n中國的電動車這還有投資的問題耶上次我都講過啦好啦現在他大大落進來了所以我再一次跟部長說我們不應該再保護這個阿斗保護這個阿斗保護70年了還要保護他多久所以我認為這個關稅的部分汽車關稅的部分至少\n\n12:20.964 --> 12:23.485\n關稅的部分除了除了稅之外其實還涉及到國內產業\n\n12:40.134 --> 12:51.727\n那跟產業主管機關就很有關係所以這個部分我們可以洽詢經濟部的意見看要怎麼處理你又說經濟部意見你上次說了說要聽經濟部意見我跑去問了經濟部長他也說這個有疑慮他說要來問財政部長\n\n13:01.089 --> 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