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00:01:32,298\n那目前路太安的構想是這樣短期內他的氫能濾氫產量不夠他用燃氫探譜桌來產能氫氣長期來看他用他們的風光濾能發電來產生濾氫來產生電解水縱使這樣還是不夠往下看他這裡面還思考到縱使在荷蘭縱使在歐洲他還要怎麼樣進口濾用濾氫濾氨的方式輸入義太安然後這個能源中心還要管線輸入請問\n\n5\n00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:56,600\n經濟部對我們國內我們本身的綠電能跟荷蘭比嗎?荷蘭的綠電情況可能不太了解了我跟你說其實台灣的風電潛力是遠高於荷蘭往下看來所以我們再看一下日本的橫濱港他跟鹿鹿島港也是這樣的規劃日本其實沒太多綠電\n\n6\n00:01:57,481 --> 00:02:16,321\n但是他有限的綠電他用要來怎麼樣來產生綠電跟氫能再往下看他的潔淨燃料因為日本大量的依賴燃料進口所以他一個潔淨燃料家族的專用碼頭而且免徵進港費用這樣的方式來取代他們國內或使用他們國內的液化天然氣甲烷和鞍\n\n7\n00:02:17,758 --> 00:02:33,982\n那這個看起來這是未來IMO他們船舶淨零的目標日本是不是值我們世界航運的牛兒?是嗎?所以他要用捷徑燃料來往下看所以是不是可以請次長開始積極的要求臺港公司用港區設置輕能專用區域包括碼頭生產儲存跟運用\n\n8\n00:02:38,407 --> 00:03:06,048\n我先請董事長跟您報告我想那個清冷的發展是世界潮流那整個港我們港公司在港口的那個是配合剛好你剛有談到就是濾清濾清這個就是離岸風電的定律來置清對置清那進口呢如果進口我們傳播要加潔淨能源進口的這些油槽他可能不是裝LNG了他可能是裝氨啦是\n\n9\n00:03:06,368 --> 00:03:06,428\n主席\n\n10\n00:03:25,184 --> 00:03:32,009\n你這些珍貴的港區空間目前有一部分是用來組裝離岸風機的對不對那未來他們是不是有用來儲存氫能有有準備給氫能做氫能產製氫的一個工廠有沒有\n\n11\n00:03:44,778 --> 00:04:00,391\n我想李揚鋒這個開發商他也針對氫能是這個趨勢他也跟我們一直在探討那所以我們在台中也有盤點那你說剛剛有到安的部分的話我們也就是跟台肥還有CIP還有那個對\n\n12\n00:04:06,135 --> 00:04:30,784\n好所以我要跟次長說今天因為都是副首長來要請經濟部甚至更往上的行政院高層要強調氫能這個趨勢台灣要做好準備連日本連荷蘭他們都有這樣的雄心壯志就算是日本他是一個能源輸入國他都想到了潔淨燃料他都想到進口的氯胺氫能來提供他國內氫能的需求所以港區的空間可能所需要的油槽\n\n13\n00:04:31,364 --> 00:04:38,389\n不只是台電公司去三接而已可能我們就有感覺到擴充這樣的接收能力是不是市長可以說明一下\n\n14\n00:04:39,144 --> 00:05:01,822\n跟委員報告確實因為IMO規定安、清跟LNG都是未來乾淨能源我們現在船公司我們全國船運力在全世界也是蠻高的第8名所以運力也蠻強所以基本上我所知道像玉米航運長榮甚至陽明都已經我上週問過你們部長已經都開始了\n\n15\n00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:04,003\n伊利斯安惠普的公寓剩餘能量熱能是怎麼樣?\n\n16\n00:05:24,716 --> 00:05:52,394\n因為在我們港區附近會有很多工業區它可能需要就近使用氫能那它產生了餘熱的再利用雖然這套系統是以經濟不應來規劃但是未來展區規劃的時候你們有沒有去思考配置這個包括安特魏普、布魯日港它的建築使用這些的功能管憲目前這一個港區的話如果說是工業要轉成這個大概只有三層的那個所以港區的話剛好是高雄港那裡\n\n17\n00:05:53,574 --> 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所以我要跟次長說 今天因為都是副首長來 要請經濟部甚至更往上的行政院高層 要強調 氫能這個趨勢 台灣要做好準備連日本 連荷蘭 他們都有這樣的雄心壯志 就算是日本他是一個能源輸入國他都想到了潔淨燃料 他都想到進口的氯胺 氫能 來提供他國內氫能的需求 所以港區的空間 可能所需要的油槽\n不只是台電公司去三接而已可能我們就有感覺到擴充這樣的接收能力是不是市長可以說明一下\n跟委員報告確實因為IMO規定安、清跟LNG都是未來乾淨能源我們現在船公司我們全國船運力在全世界也是蠻高的第8名所以運力也蠻強所以基本上我所知道像玉米航運長榮甚至陽明都已經我上週問過你們部長已經都開始了\n伊利斯安惠普的公寓剩餘能量熱能是怎麼樣?\n因為在我們港區附近會有很多工業區它可能需要就近使用氫能那它產生了餘熱的再利用雖然這套系統是以經濟不應來規劃但是未來展區規劃的時候你們有沒有去思考配置這個包括安特魏普、布魯日港它的建築使用這些的功能管憲目前這一個港區的話如果說是工業要轉成這個大概只有三層的那個所以港區的話剛好是高雄港那裡\n中油、台、金、鋼這些都可以來配合所以是經濟部跟交通部要共同來努力最後兩個訴求請評估與港區設立輕能專用區域含專用碼頭及生產儲存運用的基礎建設的可行性最後請評估港區結合鄰近工業區建置工業剩餘熱能再利用設施的可行性可以嗎可以那我也不跟你限日期了您再給我本席這邊我們來追蹤好不好這應該要做的好謝謝市長謝謝董事長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.096 --> 00:30.467\n報告主席．在場的委員先進．列系列政府機關所長．官員．會長．工作夥伴．媒體記者．女士先生．有請林次長和臺港局．臺港公司李董事長好請相關的委員長蔡委員好次長好董事長好其實這是我第三度應該李董事長很清楚我在談港區要設置輕能專區建置基建工業剩餘熱能再利用引力減碳好我們來先看一下荷蘭\n\n00:31.307 --> 00:45.503\n將打造全球最大的綠色氫氣場他打算在路德丹港用一個最大規模的綠色氫氣場用離岸風電產生的電力產生氫氣再用原來的油氣管線銷往歐洲請問次長你大概有略略聽聞吧\n\n00:47.044 --> 01:05.416\n我們來看一下他的現況是怎樣現況這就是歐洲氫能樞紐的雄心壯志這裡面有負責生產的有進口的也有管道運輸的還有加氫站未來還有1000輛的氫能卡車運送氫能的像運油的油槽車一樣在安特惠普跟杜伊斯堡和路德丹之間行駛好我們現在看\n\n01:05.919 --> 01:32.298\n那目前路太安的構想是這樣短期內他的氫能濾氫產量不夠他用燃氫探譜桌來產能氫氣長期來看他用他們的風光濾能發電來產生濾氫來產生電解水縱使這樣還是不夠往下看他這裡面還思考到縱使在荷蘭縱使在歐洲他還要怎麼樣進口濾用濾氫濾氨的方式輸入義太安然後這個能源中心還要管線輸入請問\n\n01:35.220 --> 01:56.600\n經濟部對我們國內我們本身的綠電能跟荷蘭比嗎?荷蘭的綠電情況可能不太了解了我跟你說其實台灣的風電潛力是遠高於荷蘭往下看來所以我們再看一下日本的橫濱港他跟鹿鹿島港也是這樣的規劃日本其實沒太多綠電\n\n01:57.481 --> 02:16.321\n但是他有限的綠電他用要來怎麼樣來產生綠電跟氫能再往下看他的潔淨燃料因為日本大量的依賴燃料進口所以他一個潔淨燃料家族的專用碼頭而且免徵進港費用這樣的方式來取代他們國內或使用他們國內的液化天然氣甲烷和鞍\n\n02:17.758 --> 02:33.982\n那這個看起來這是未來IMO他們船舶淨零的目標日本是不是值我們世界航運的牛兒?是嗎?所以他要用捷徑燃料來往下看所以是不是可以請次長開始積極的要求臺港公司用港區設置輕能專用區域包括碼頭生產儲存跟運用\n\n02:38.407 --> 03:06.048\n我先請董事長跟您報告我想那個清冷的發展是世界潮流那整個港我們港公司在港口的那個是配合剛好你剛有談到就是濾清濾清這個就是離岸風電的定律來置清對置清那進口呢如果進口我們傳播要加潔淨能源進口的這些油槽他可能不是裝LNG了他可能是裝氨啦是\n\n03:06.368 --> 03:06.428\n主席\n\n03:25.184 --> 03:32.009\n你這些珍貴的港區空間目前有一部分是用來組裝離岸風機的對不對那未來他們是不是有用來儲存氫能有有準備給氫能做氫能產製氫的一個工廠有沒有\n\n03:44.778 --> 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