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00:03:01,051\n那因為平埔族的這個證明涉及的議題非常的龐大而且所需要的預算可能也會超過幾百億可能影響的族群也會超過一百萬人那這樣子是不是也需要跨部會去整合包括說如果追溯到平埔族的這個血緣的話臺灣可能有六百萬人是平埔族\n\n9\n00:03:01,511 --> 00:03:01,531\n）委員\n\n10\n00:03:19,644 --> 00:03:41,665\n這個部分跟委員報告齁因為事實上我們行政院已經有成立一個叫原住民族基本法的推動會是由行政院的院長來擔任召集人所以關於剛剛委員提到這個重大的議題事實上是可以提到這個委員會來做相關的一個討論跟審議我想這可能跟我們的原住民委員會的主任委員能不能兼任政務委員我覺得應該也沒有直接的關係啦\n\n11\n00:03:42,546 --> 00:03:42,666\n中副主委\n\n12\n00:03:58,066 --> 00:04:09,035\n原民會有一個必要案是113年度補助原住民族長者裝置假牙業務的宣導文宣費預算的經費是199萬元那為什麼會有這個宣導品是因為112年度原住民的長者裝設假牙的補助總共1936案補助金額是3666\n\n13\n00:04:22,225 --> 00:04:23,826\n原住民長者申請補助人數太少,所以要做宣傳。\n\n14\n00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:51,431\n其實很多老人家的牙齒的確到一定的年齡大概都會鬆動而且吃食物進食會比較困難對那是根據什麼樣子的理由你認為說這個是因為宣傳不夠呢\n\n15\n00:04:54,087 --> 00:04:54,147\n主席\n\n16\n00:05:13,948 --> 00:05:38,013\n以貼紙的話可以張貼在66處的原住民族的家庭服務中心22縣市政府510處的文化健康站全國的村里長辦公室牙醫診所那會需要裝假牙的人會去找牙醫需要申請補助的會去找里長家人也會上網查資訊為什麼需要花199萬去製作USB風扇跟USBLED燈進行宣導呢?\n\n17\n00:05:39,934 --> 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LED燈進行宣導呢?\n339934\t363805\t各位報告,這個可能也是鼓勵的一個用意,那當然因為這個不是我督導的優勢,不是那麼清楚它的細節。因為這個部分本期也沒有反對送宣導品,但是應該要送,既然目的是針對長者的假牙,所以你們應該是要送長者會用到的東西吧。請問有幾個長者會用USB去充電?\n366434\t382002\t所以這樣子的一個宣導品我覺得根本就沒有好一大使用性是浪費公帑我在內政委員會的時候我也曾經質詢過前任的這個主委他花了145萬要去做他的個人的一個紀念冊\n382902\t383262\t副主委,請您回答\n406042\t434613\t委員這個部分我們再來瞭解看因為的確老人家是比較很少用USB啦都是年輕人比較多所以說你花了199萬元去做老人家根本不會用到的宣導品就是浪費公帑就是浪費納稅人義務的納稅錢可能也是給老人家或者是讓家裡能夠一起做這樣的一個宣導199萬元既然原民會的預算是很吃緊的我覺得每一分錢都該花在刀口上好嗎好也謝謝委員的提醒謝謝\n436519\t436560\t主席\n","txt":"主席我們請原民會中副主委跟原市行政總署曾永芳專委有副處長要找副處長嗎?麻煩副處長\n副主委還有副處長我先請教一下副處長根據行政院組織法第五條第二項規定正委員得兼任下設委員會之主任委員而第四條規定行政院設立的委員會有包含原住民委員會\n因此原住民委員會的主任委員應該是可以兼任行政院的政務委員也沒有違反行政院組織法的規定那執政黨的原住民立委曾經主張原民會的業務橫跨的各部會應該讓主任委員兼任政務委員為何你們一直都沒有讓原民會的主委兼任政務委員\n那跟委員報告因為依照中央行政機關組織基準法的第18條第三項有提到機關首長除了他法律有特別的規定之外原則上是用專任的方式來處理所以說我們原則上因為這個原民會的業務是橫跨了各部會但因為他本身就是委員會性質是負責整合協調各部會的業務所以我們還是維持讓他用委員會而且專任的方式\n那國發會跟國家科學及技術委員會的主委有沒有兼任政務委員當時的考量是因為國發會跟這個國科會他們本身在相關的國家的施政的計畫科研計畫的審議方面有比較多資源分配的權限所以當時是在國發會的組織法是在立法院審議的過程是由委員建議把它改為由政務委員來兼任的\n那所以說只要有委員建議可以改為政務委員兼任也是可以的,是這樣的意思嗎?我們是建議就是說因為他現行之下其實已經有相關跨部會協調的功能了。\n主要是因為賴總統有他的主張是要證明平埔族這我想上次這個主委新任的主委也特別提到\n那因為平埔族的這個證明涉及的議題非常的龐大而且所需要的預算可能也會超過幾百億可能影響的族群也會超過一百萬人那這樣子是不是也需要跨部會去整合包括說如果追溯到平埔族的這個血緣的話臺灣可能有六百萬人是平埔族\n）委員\n這個部分跟委員報告齁因為事實上我們行政院已經有成立一個叫原住民族基本法的推動會是由行政院的院長來擔任召集人所以關於剛剛委員提到這個重大的議題事實上是可以提到這個委員會來做相關的一個討論跟審議我想這可能跟我們的原住民委員會的主任委員能不能兼任政務委員我覺得應該也沒有直接的關係啦\n中副主委\n原民會有一個必要案是113年度補助原住民族長者裝置假牙業務的宣導文宣費預算的經費是199萬元那為什麼會有這個宣導品是因為112年度原住民的長者裝設假牙的補助總共1936案補助金額是3666\n原住民長者申請補助人數太少,所以要做宣傳。\n其實很多老人家的牙齒的確到一定的年齡大概都會鬆動而且吃食物進食會比較困難對 那是根據什麼樣子的理由你認為說這個是因為宣傳不夠呢\n主席\n以貼紙的話可以張貼在66處的原住民族的家庭服務中心22縣市政府510處的文化健康站全國的村里長辦公室牙醫診所那會需要裝假牙的人會去找牙醫需要申請補助的會去找里長家人也會上網查資訊為什麼需要花199萬去製作USB風扇跟USB LED燈進行宣導呢?\n各位報告,這個可能也是鼓勵的一個用意,那當然因為這個不是我督導的優勢,不是那麼清楚它的細節。因為這個部分本期也沒有反對送宣導品,但是應該要送,既然目的是針對長者的假牙,所以你們應該是要送長者會用到的東西吧。請問有幾個長者會用USB去充電?\n所以這樣子的一個宣導品我覺得根本就沒有好一大使用性是浪費公帑我在內政委員會的時候我也曾經質詢過前任的這個主委他花了145萬要去做他的個人的一個紀念冊\n副主委,請您回答\n委員這個部分我們再來瞭解看因為的確老人家是比較很少用USB啦都是年輕人比較多所以說你花了199萬元去做老人家根本不會用到的宣導品就是浪費公帑就是浪費納稅人義務的納稅錢可能也是給老人家或者是讓家裡能夠一起做這樣的一個宣導199萬元既然原民會的預算是很吃緊的我覺得每一分錢都該花在刀口上好嗎好也謝謝委員的提醒謝謝\n主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.739 --> 00:23.413\n主席我們請原民會中副主委跟原市行政總署曾永芳專委有副處長要找副處長嗎?麻煩副處長\n\n00:36.730 --> 00:53.326\n副主委還有副處長我先請教一下副處長根據行政院組織法第五條第二項規定正委員得兼任下設委員會之主任委員而第四條規定行政院設立的委員會有包含原住民委員會\n\n00:54.227 --> 01:14.013\n因此原住民委員會的主任委員應該是可以兼任行政院的政務委員也沒有違反行政院組織法的規定那執政黨的原住民立委曾經主張原民會的業務橫跨的各部會應該讓主任委員兼任政務委員為何你們一直都沒有讓原民會的主委兼任政務委員\n\n01:15.396 --> 01:43.514\n那跟委員報告因為依照中央行政機關組織基準法的第18條第三項有提到機關首長除了他法律有特別的規定之外原則上是用專任的方式來處理所以說我們原則上因為這個原民會的業務是橫跨了各部會但因為他本身就是委員會性質是負責整合協調各部會的業務所以我們還是維持讓他用委員會而且專任的方式\n\n01:44.025 --> 02:10.167\n那國發會跟國家科學及技術委員會的主委有沒有兼任政務委員當時的考量是因為國發會跟這個國科會他們本身在相關的國家的施政的計畫科研計畫的審議方面有比較多資源分配的權限所以當時是在國發會的組織法是在立法院審議的過程是由委員建議把它改為由政務委員來兼任的\n\n02:10.356 --> 02:21.612\n那所以說只要有委員建議可以改為政務委員兼任也是可以的,是這樣的意思嗎?我們是建議就是說因為他現行之下其實已經有相關跨部會協調的功能了。\n\n02:22.466 --> 02:27.068\n主要是因為賴總統有他的主張是要證明平埔族這我想上次這個主委新任的主委也特別提到\n\n02:41.494 --> 03:01.051\n那因為平埔族的這個證明涉及的議題非常的龐大而且所需要的預算可能也會超過幾百億可能影響的族群也會超過一百萬人那這樣子是不是也需要跨部會去整合包括說如果追溯到平埔族的這個血緣的話臺灣可能有六百萬人是平埔族\n\n03:01.511 --> 03:01.531\n）委員\n\n03:19.644 --> 03:41.665\n這個部分跟委員報告齁因為事實上我們行政院已經有成立一個叫原住民族基本法的推動會是由行政院的院長來擔任召集人所以關於剛剛委員提到這個重大的議題事實上是可以提到這個委員會來做相關的一個討論跟審議我想這可能跟我們的原住民委員會的主任委員能不能兼任政務委員我覺得應該也沒有直接的關係啦\n\n03:42.546 --> 03:42.666\n中副主委\n\n03:58.066 --> 04:09.035\n原民會有一個必要案是113年度補助原住民族長者裝置假牙業務的宣導文宣費預算的經費是199萬元那為什麼會有這個宣導品是因為112年度原住民的長者裝設假牙的補助總共1936案補助金額是3666\n\n04:22.225 --> 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