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00:02:22,144\n您知道嗎?你們在農挖條例以來,您條例學術在說,只要說山坡地保持安全,我告訴你們,現在北省太窮了,自己去的地方必須要照顧得好,不能發生問題。那主要為了一片的甲青溝,把農民的財產都把它降下來,\n\n6\n00:02:23,905 --> 00:02:52,529\n以前一甲地可以賣到三千多兩千多現在剩下一千五還沒有人要那是天道地的差別農民是客家宅散地國家宅散現在老農民在工作做什麼呢做健康的不是賺錢的自己農業部搞一個民主地所以我在這我要再三跟你強調我希望你跟我還有水寶石的跟我下去看\n\n7\n00:02:53,649 --> 00:03:01,269\n你看到的時候你覺得退出的時候就要到那個地方來治鳥語花香人間仙境\n\n8\n00:03:02,912 --> 00:03:24,378\n那因為開挖現在為什麼不給你們想其實裡面你有開挖包括你農地的耕種你甚至可以組織農耕隊裡面要大膽的改革啊我們要有行動也要有創新你的AI內閣像我山坡地86%都在那裡喊著要洗洗地啊\n\n9\n00:03:25,728 --> 00:03:31,270\n我現在要求一件事我比你年紀還大但是我永遠是行動我永遠敢於創新\n\n10\n00:03:48,069 --> 00:04:01,237\n我帶你來看我一定我們在苗栗縣政府裏面討論完我們山坡地要如何開發我要把苗栗縣的山坡地打造像日本輕型車一樣\n\n11\n00:04:04,456 --> 00:04:19,944\n來個試試也可以減低了很多都市人口的壓力年紀大的一點一點的人可以在苗栗縣來康養非常好觀念要改變因為苗栗縣有獨特的地方到台北市高鐵40分鐘台中18分鐘\n\n12\n00:04:23,766 --> 00:04:33,574\n到高雄那邊大概70幾分鐘而且苗栗縣的高鐵苗栗縣政府到苗栗縣每一個鄉鎮30分鐘就會到很緊張的很好一個地方\n\n13\n00:04:39,960 --> 00:05:06,176\n我再三提出來我覺得說我們做事情一定要大膽,我們要串心,我們要物盡其用,不是那麼白癡在那,滿山滿嶺以前種的水果都沒有人在摘啊,吹公吹得很動,年輕人也不想做,人家也要改變一個方式,旁邊要來支持我這個結尾,我帶你去看,我們把問題提出來,真的是好地方\n\n14\n00:05:08,151 --> 00:05:30,176\n我被你們農化條例限制變成垃圾我一定要活化阿免驚你給我們一個試驗地區由縣長來指導法案跟你們討論通過以後做一次給人家看這樣不像台灣的進步永遠你保守在那邊什麼的不能破壞我常常講\n\n15\n00:05:31,618 --> 00:05:55,872\n都市人禮拜一到禮拜五你們在這邊燈紅巧麗。禮拜五晚上到我們鄉下地方禮拜六禮拜天我們的青山綠水好山好水都在你鄉上。為什麼都市裡面的農地可以重劃?變為自宅區變為商業區?為什麼我們山坡地要特別受您規限?\n\n16\n00:05:57,603 --> 00:06:06,352\n現在施工幾乎沒有人在種：有時候你看到很悲哀：誰要去爬：要不要答應支持我這樣：我們兩個：還有水保局跟我去看：三個人\n\n17\n00:06:23,356 --> 00:06:35,069\n半天給你看到民間的力量有多偉大他創造一個美好的地方之後他們都實現大家人生要來修養安養的一個地方在\n\n18\n00:06:43,997 --> 00:06:53,626\n我記得委員在上次的總執行也有提到嘛那我那時候也承諾在我們的會期結束以後我一定會安排我的同仁好好的去看不要太多人\n\n19\n00:06:55,778 --> 00:06:59,981\n我舉個人去看一看當然你會瞭解很多地方當初以前做了這個說明可有辦法可能的\n\n20\n00:07:18,919 --> 00:07:23,101\n在我還要請給我們大家還沒開發還沒進步怎麼會這樣逐漸改變醫社啦我跟委員報告我們不能用農地的階段不是只有\n\n21\n00:07:31,072 --> 00:07:32,212\n今天講到農業移工\n\n22\n00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:23,169\n啊現在狀況,失聯移工是佔了一個大部分那在流氓的時候看你部長夠不夠力你外來的移工現在從6000人到12000人條度的問題每一個農產品產的季節的問題都不一樣所以現在依我了解\n\n23\n00:08:24,746 --> 00:08:50,247\n這農民要叫台灣人來做,沒人什麼人要做,要去拜託,拜託到很沒民主的那些主力才是主力,我先插頭跟你講其實有時候我們要感謝他們,為什麼?那段的時間大家寧願錢高一點給他們,他們又出來做永遠你記得一個觀念,這些移工一進來他就是要賺錢\n\n24\n00:08:51,813 --> 00:09:01,169\n談了一段時間又給他賺錢他就會問一座台灣人做一半天就把你完成了我跟你講我碰到很多我在地方跑都會問這個問題\n\n25\n00:09:03,732 --> 00:09:32,105\n第二個關於移工要進來農會你們以農會系統我也支持但是我會講農會系統歷史有換款的單位當然也有輔導的單位比較關咬一點我講這句話也就是我們的農會但是我相信不會我是把實情告訴你因為我要替你解決問題我要把真的錢另外我碰到了幾個\n\n26\n00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:59,439\n農會的青年人不錯像我們縣里農會像我們的西湖農會那些啊青農不錯其實你真的在調用那些農會行動到緩慢那些青年青農都很多新的不單更做而且是地方有實力的他認識的人很多好好把持這個是重要的裝潮\n\n27\n00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:14,378\n所以他們為了要服務將來他們要在地方發展的時候只要他的農民來拜託他他就會去幫他找解決問題快速好好的運用這個有效率的青龍\n\n28\n00:10:15,816 --> 00:10:37,974\n我看過我們縣裡的青龍真的很團結也真的在做事情西湖的也不錯每一個地方的青龍培養出來不一樣我覺得你用這樣的青龍他有你農業各方面的人在那一邊他們還用的速度很快調整人力好好指揮給他們去應用一下可能非常快\n\n29\n00:10:39,290 --> 00:11:01,920\n當然未來我們CPTPP進來我們會更到農業會更到更大的麻煩現在因應好外來是來是我們以後農業的主力現在沒有人要做我只是跟你講而且收穫也不高只維護他的土地哎呀啦我要去做什麼只有做健康的啦\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3751\t9973\t主席好首先有請我們農業部我們的陳部長我們請陳部長委員長部長好部長我自己請教你幾年出的47年次47年次好我這樣了解\n30663\t54755\t那部長我每次在委員會的執行還有我們院會的總執行我一直強調苗栗縣一定要成立第一區反撲四萬區苗栗縣的土地裡面86%是山坡地我們受限到苗栗縣的這個喉嚨被鎖住的我告訴你一個實際的情形\n60563\t89155\t苗栗的山坡地一甲地大概是一千五百萬到兩千萬說到拍拖地在土地台北市新北市大概買不到十坪到二十坪的房子啊你看這比例差了多少啊我也希望部長這開始對農民很不公平農民又分成兩種都市計劃\n91271\t117502\t區裡面農地的農民都市計劃外一關農地的農民為什麼一樣的農地都市計劃內的農地可以濕地重挖他說不要承擔了糧食的安全跟外面的問題為什麼都市計劃外的農地要受到種種限制尤其苗栗縣的山坡地佔了86%\n119844\t142144\t您知道嗎?你們在農挖條例以來,您條例學術在說,只要說山坡地保持安全,我告訴你們,現在北省太窮了,自己去的地方必須要照顧得好,不能發生問題。那主要為了一片的甲青溝,把農民的財產都把它降下來,\n143905\t172529\t以前一甲地可以賣到三千多兩千多現在剩下一千五還沒有人要那是天道地的差別農民是客家宅散地國家宅散現在老農民在工作做什麼呢做健康的不是賺錢的自己農業部搞一個民主地所以我在這我要再三跟你強調我希望你跟我還有水寶石的跟我下去看\n173649\t181269\t你看到的時候你覺得退出的時候就要到那個地方來治鳥語花香人間仙境\n182912\t204378\t那因為開挖現在為什麼不給你們想其實裡面你有開挖包括你農地的耕種你甚至可以組織農耕隊裡面要大膽的改革啊我們要有行動也要有創新你的AI內閣像我山坡地86%都在那裡喊著要洗洗地啊\n205728\t211270\t我現在要求一件事我比你年紀還大但是我永遠是行動我永遠敢於創新\n228069\t241237\t我帶你來看我一定我們在苗栗縣政府裏面討論完我們山坡地要如何開發我要把苗栗縣的山坡地打造像日本輕型車一樣\n244456\t259944\t來個試試也可以減低了很多都市人口的壓力年紀大的一點一點的人可以在苗栗縣來康養非常好觀念要改變因為苗栗縣有獨特的地方到台北市高鐵40分鐘台中18分鐘\n263766\t273574\t到高雄那邊大概70幾分鐘而且苗栗縣的高鐵苗栗縣政府到苗栗縣每一個鄉鎮30分鐘就會到很緊張的很好一個地方\n279960\t306176\t我再三提出來我覺得說我們做事情一定要大膽,我們要串心,我們要物盡其用,不是那麼白癡在那,滿山滿嶺以前種的水果都沒有人在摘啊,吹公吹得很動,年輕人也不想做,人家也要改變一個方式,旁邊要來支持我這個結尾,我帶你去看,我們把問題提出來,真的是好地方\n308151\t330176\t我被你們農化條例限制變成垃圾我一定要活化阿免驚你給我們一個試驗地區由縣長來指導法案跟你們討論通過以後做一次給人家看這樣不像台灣的進步永遠你保守在那邊什麼的不能破壞我常常講\n331618\t355872\t都市人禮拜一到禮拜五你們在這邊燈紅巧麗。禮拜五晚上到我們鄉下地方禮拜六禮拜天我們的青山綠水好山好水都在你鄉上。為什麼都市裡面的農地可以重劃?變為自宅區變為商業區?為什麼我們山坡地要特別受您規限?\n357603\t366352\t現在施工幾乎沒有人在種：有時候你看到很悲哀：誰要去爬：要不要答應支持我這樣：我們兩個：還有水保局跟我去看：三個人\n383356\t395069\t半天給你看到民間的力量有多偉大他創造一個美好的地方之後他們都實現大家人生要來修養安養的一個地方在\n403997\t413626\t我記得委員在上次的總執行也有提到嘛那我那時候也承諾在我們的會期結束以後我一定會安排我的同仁好好的去看不要太多人\n415778\t419981\t我舉個人去看一看當然你會瞭解很多地方 當初以前做了這個說明 可有辦法可能的\n438919\t443101\t在我還要請給我們大家 還沒開發還沒進步 怎麼會這樣逐漸改變醫社啦 我跟委員報告 我們不能用農地的階段 不是只有\n451072\t452212\t今天講到農業移工\n480080\t503169\t啊現在狀況,失聯移工是佔了一個大部分那在流氓的時候看你部長夠不夠力你外來的移工現在從6000人到12000人條度的問題每一個農產品產的季節的問題都不一樣所以現在依我了解\n504746\t530247\t這農民要叫台灣人來做,沒人什麼人要做,要去拜託,拜託到很沒民主的那些主力才是主力,我先插頭跟你講其實有時候我們要感謝他們,為什麼?那段的時間大家寧願錢高一點給他們,他們又出來做永遠你記得一個觀念,這些移工一進來他就是要賺錢\n531813\t541169\t談了一段時間又給他賺錢他就會問一座台灣人做一半天就把你完成了我跟你講我碰到很多我在地方跑都會問這個問題\n543732\t572105\t第二個關於移工要進來農會你們以農會系統我也支持但是我會講農會系統歷史有換款的單位當然也有輔導的單位比較關咬一點我講這句話也就是我們的農會但是我相信不會我是把實情告訴你因為我要替你解決問題我要把真的錢另外我碰到了幾個\n574279\t599439\t農會的青年人不錯 像我們縣里農會 像我們的西湖農會 那些啊 青農不錯其實你真的在調用 那些農會 行動到緩慢 那些青年 青農都很多新的 不單更做 而且是地方有實力的 他認識的人很多 好好把持 這個是重要的裝潮\n600700\t614378\t所以他們為了要服務將來他們要在地方發展的時候只要他的農民來拜託他他就會去幫他找解決問題快速好好的運用這個有效率的青龍\n615816\t637974\t我看過我們縣裡的青龍真的很團結也真的在做事情西湖的也不錯每一個地方的青龍培養出來不一樣我覺得你用這樣的青龍他有你農業各方面的人在那一邊他們還用的速度很快調整人力好好指揮給他們去應用一下可能非常快\n639290\t661920\t當然未來我們CPTPP進來我們會更到 農業會更到更大的麻煩現在因應好 外來是來是我們以後農業的主力 現在沒有人要做 我只是跟你講而且收穫也不高 只維護他的土地 哎呀啦 我要去做什麼 只有做健康的啦\n","txt":"主席好首先有請我們農業部我們的陳部長我們請陳部長委員長部長好部長我自己請教你幾年出的47年次47年次好我這樣了解\n那部長我每次在委員會的執行還有我們院會的總執行我一直強調苗栗縣一定要成立第一區反撲四萬區苗栗縣的土地裡面86%是山坡地我們受限到苗栗縣的這個喉嚨被鎖住的我告訴你一個實際的情形\n苗栗的山坡地一甲地大概是一千五百萬到兩千萬說到拍拖地在土地台北市新北市大概買不到十坪到二十坪的房子啊你看這比例差了多少啊我也希望部長這開始對農民很不公平農民又分成兩種都市計劃\n區裡面農地的農民都市計劃外一關農地的農民為什麼一樣的農地都市計劃內的農地可以濕地重挖他說不要承擔了糧食的安全跟外面的問題為什麼都市計劃外的農地要受到種種限制尤其苗栗縣的山坡地佔了86%\n您知道嗎?你們在農挖條例以來,您條例學術在說,只要說山坡地保持安全,我告訴你們,現在北省太窮了,自己去的地方必須要照顧得好,不能發生問題。那主要為了一片的甲青溝,把農民的財產都把它降下來,\n以前一甲地可以賣到三千多兩千多現在剩下一千五還沒有人要那是天道地的差別農民是客家宅散地國家宅散現在老農民在工作做什麼呢做健康的不是賺錢的自己農業部搞一個民主地所以我在這我要再三跟你強調我希望你跟我還有水寶石的跟我下去看\n你看到的時候你覺得退出的時候就要到那個地方來治鳥語花香人間仙境\n那因為開挖現在為什麼不給你們想其實裡面你有開挖包括你農地的耕種你甚至可以組織農耕隊裡面要大膽的改革啊我們要有行動也要有創新你的AI內閣像我山坡地86%都在那裡喊著要洗洗地啊\n我現在要求一件事我比你年紀還大但是我永遠是行動我永遠敢於創新\n我帶你來看我一定我們在苗栗縣政府裏面討論完我們山坡地要如何開發我要把苗栗縣的山坡地打造像日本輕型車一樣\n來個試試也可以減低了很多都市人口的壓力年紀大的一點一點的人可以在苗栗縣來康養非常好觀念要改變因為苗栗縣有獨特的地方到台北市高鐵40分鐘台中18分鐘\n到高雄那邊大概70幾分鐘而且苗栗縣的高鐵苗栗縣政府到苗栗縣每一個鄉鎮30分鐘就會到很緊張的很好一個地方\n我再三提出來我覺得說我們做事情一定要大膽,我們要串心,我們要物盡其用,不是那麼白癡在那,滿山滿嶺以前種的水果都沒有人在摘啊,吹公吹得很動,年輕人也不想做,人家也要改變一個方式,旁邊要來支持我這個結尾,我帶你去看,我們把問題提出來,真的是好地方\n我被你們農化條例限制變成垃圾我一定要活化阿免驚你給我們一個試驗地區由縣長來指導法案跟你們討論通過以後做一次給人家看這樣不像台灣的進步永遠你保守在那邊什麼的不能破壞我常常講\n都市人禮拜一到禮拜五你們在這邊燈紅巧麗。禮拜五晚上到我們鄉下地方禮拜六禮拜天我們的青山綠水好山好水都在你鄉上。為什麼都市裡面的農地可以重劃?變為自宅區變為商業區?為什麼我們山坡地要特別受您規限?\n現在施工幾乎沒有人在種：有時候你看到很悲哀：誰要去爬：要不要答應支持我這樣：我們兩個：還有水保局跟我去看：三個人\n半天給你看到民間的力量有多偉大他創造一個美好的地方之後他們都實現大家人生要來修養安養的一個地方在\n我記得委員在上次的總執行也有提到嘛那我那時候也承諾在我們的會期結束以後我一定會安排我的同仁好好的去看不要太多人\n我舉個人去看一看當然你會瞭解很多地方 當初以前做了這個說明 可有辦法可能的\n在我還要請給我們大家 還沒開發還沒進步 怎麼會這樣逐漸改變醫社啦 我跟委員報告 我們不能用農地的階段 不是只有\n今天講到農業移工\n啊現在狀況,失聯移工是佔了一個大部分那在流氓的時候看你部長夠不夠力你外來的移工現在從6000人到12000人條度的問題每一個農產品產的季節的問題都不一樣所以現在依我了解\n這農民要叫台灣人來做,沒人什麼人要做,要去拜託,拜託到很沒民主的那些主力才是主力,我先插頭跟你講其實有時候我們要感謝他們,為什麼?那段的時間大家寧願錢高一點給他們,他們又出來做永遠你記得一個觀念,這些移工一進來他就是要賺錢\n談了一段時間又給他賺錢他就會問一座台灣人做一半天就把你完成了我跟你講我碰到很多我在地方跑都會問這個問題\n第二個關於移工要進來農會你們以農會系統我也支持但是我會講農會系統歷史有換款的單位當然也有輔導的單位比較關咬一點我講這句話也就是我們的農會但是我相信不會我是把實情告訴你因為我要替你解決問題我要把真的錢另外我碰到了幾個\n農會的青年人不錯 像我們縣里農會 像我們的西湖農會 那些啊 青農不錯其實你真的在調用 那些農會 行動到緩慢 那些青年 青農都很多新的 不單更做 而且是地方有實力的 他認識的人很多 好好把持 這個是重要的裝潮\n所以他們為了要服務將來他們要在地方發展的時候只要他的農民來拜託他他就會去幫他找解決問題快速好好的運用這個有效率的青龍\n我看過我們縣裡的青龍真的很團結也真的在做事情西湖的也不錯每一個地方的青龍培養出來不一樣我覺得你用這樣的青龍他有你農業各方面的人在那一邊他們還用的速度很快調整人力好好指揮給他們去應用一下可能非常快\n當然未來我們CPTPP進來我們會更到 農業會更到更大的麻煩現在因應好 外來是來是我們以後農業的主力 現在沒有人要做 我只是跟你講而且收穫也不高 只維護他的土地 哎呀啦 我要去做什麼 只有做健康的啦\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.751 --> 00:09.973\n主席好首先有請我們農業部我們的陳部長我們請陳部長委員長部長好部長我自己請教你幾年出的47年次47年次好我這樣了解\n\n00:30.663 --> 00:54.755\n那部長我每次在委員會的執行還有我們院會的總執行我一直強調苗栗縣一定要成立第一區反撲四萬區苗栗縣的土地裡面86%是山坡地我們受限到苗栗縣的這個喉嚨被鎖住的我告訴你一個實際的情形\n\n01:00.563 --> 01:29.155\n苗栗的山坡地一甲地大概是一千五百萬到兩千萬說到拍拖地在土地台北市新北市大概買不到十坪到二十坪的房子啊你看這比例差了多少啊我也希望部長這開始對農民很不公平農民又分成兩種都市計劃\n\n01:31.271 --> 01:57.502\n區裡面農地的農民都市計劃外一關農地的農民為什麼一樣的農地都市計劃內的農地可以濕地重挖他說不要承擔了糧食的安全跟外面的問題為什麼都市計劃外的農地要受到種種限制尤其苗栗縣的山坡地佔了86%\n\n01:59.844 --> 02:22.144\n您知道嗎?你們在農挖條例以來,您條例學術在說,只要說山坡地保持安全,我告訴你們,現在北省太窮了,自己去的地方必須要照顧得好,不能發生問題。那主要為了一片的甲青溝,把農民的財產都把它降下來,\n\n02:23.905 --> 02:52.529\n以前一甲地可以賣到三千多兩千多現在剩下一千五還沒有人要那是天道地的差別農民是客家宅散地國家宅散現在老農民在工作做什麼呢做健康的不是賺錢的自己農業部搞一個民主地所以我在這我要再三跟你強調我希望你跟我還有水寶石的跟我下去看\n\n02:53.649 --> 03:01.269\n你看到的時候你覺得退出的時候就要到那個地方來治鳥語花香人間仙境\n\n03:02.912 --> 03:24.378\n那因為開挖現在為什麼不給你們想其實裡面你有開挖包括你農地的耕種你甚至可以組織農耕隊裡面要大膽的改革啊我們要有行動也要有創新你的AI內閣像我山坡地86%都在那裡喊著要洗洗地啊\n\n03:25.728 --> 03:31.270\n我現在要求一件事我比你年紀還大但是我永遠是行動我永遠敢於創新\n\n03:48.069 --> 04:01.237\n我帶你來看我一定我們在苗栗縣政府裏面討論完我們山坡地要如何開發我要把苗栗縣的山坡地打造像日本輕型車一樣\n\n04:04.456 --> 04:19.944\n來個試試也可以減低了很多都市人口的壓力年紀大的一點一點的人可以在苗栗縣來康養非常好觀念要改變因為苗栗縣有獨特的地方到台北市高鐵40分鐘台中18分鐘\n\n04:23.766 --> 04:33.574\n到高雄那邊大概70幾分鐘而且苗栗縣的高鐵苗栗縣政府到苗栗縣每一個鄉鎮30分鐘就會到很緊張的很好一個地方\n\n04:39.960 --> 05:06.176\n我再三提出來我覺得說我們做事情一定要大膽,我們要串心,我們要物盡其用,不是那麼白癡在那,滿山滿嶺以前種的水果都沒有人在摘啊,吹公吹得很動,年輕人也不想做,人家也要改變一個方式,旁邊要來支持我這個結尾,我帶你去看,我們把問題提出來,真的是好地方\n\n05:08.151 --> 05:30.176\n我被你們農化條例限制變成垃圾我一定要活化阿免驚你給我們一個試驗地區由縣長來指導法案跟你們討論通過以後做一次給人家看這樣不像台灣的進步永遠你保守在那邊什麼的不能破壞我常常講\n\n05:31.618 --> 05:55.872\n都市人禮拜一到禮拜五你們在這邊燈紅巧麗。禮拜五晚上到我們鄉下地方禮拜六禮拜天我們的青山綠水好山好水都在你鄉上。為什麼都市裡面的農地可以重劃?變為自宅區變為商業區?為什麼我們山坡地要特別受您規限?\n\n05:57.603 --> 06:06.352\n現在施工幾乎沒有人在種：有時候你看到很悲哀：誰要去爬：要不要答應支持我這樣：我們兩個：還有水保局跟我去看：三個人\n\n06:23.356 --> 06:35.069\n半天給你看到民間的力量有多偉大他創造一個美好的地方之後他們都實現大家人生要來修養安養的一個地方在\n\n06:43.997 --> 06:53.626\n我記得委員在上次的總執行也有提到嘛那我那時候也承諾在我們的會期結束以後我一定會安排我的同仁好好的去看不要太多人\n\n06:55.778 --> 06:59.981\n我舉個人去看一看當然你會瞭解很多地方當初以前做了這個說明可有辦法可能的\n\n07:18.919 --> 07:23.101\n在我還要請給我們大家還沒開發還沒進步怎麼會這樣逐漸改變醫社啦我跟委員報告我們不能用農地的階段不是只有\n\n07:31.072 --> 07:32.212\n今天講到農業移工\n\n08:00.080 --> 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