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00:00:47,609\n委員長部長好市長好署長好部長過去勤勞的時候我們是不是協調我們的國軍弟兄少吃蛋改用其他蛋白質有嗎有有現在我們蛋很多可不可以協調國防部請我們國軍弟兄多吃蛋\n\n3\n00:00:50,351 --> 00:01:09,270\n我想我們已經發文就是請我們的因為蛋有非常好的蛋白質然後一天吃兩個蛋也不會因為這樣子而有一些膽固醇現在是蛋太多跟缺蛋多我們反過來操作第二個問題可能署長或市長這邊想一下那天跟你請到雷鳳的問題\n\n4\n00:01:11,306 --> 00:01:30,694\n你也很好感心請副市長去了解我現在發現檸檬的問題主要是一個產銷的問題就是說對於因為檸檬它是加價的所以它的用藥殘留很嚴格那我知道對於彼此互相用藥最關心的就是什麼?\n\n5\n00:01:30,694 --> 00:01:37,056\n酪農啊因為酪農他們不可能一台冷車是集乳車啦不是冷車不要聽錯了\n\n6\n00:01:39,315 --> 00:02:02,334\n一輪車是一台車要載幾輪的木頭所以說只要一個牧場有牛生病打了抗生素驗出來整個所有的木頭都在用所以互相他們彼此之間對彼此顧慮到別人的乳品不要被污染他們對自己的牛吃的管理、健康管理很重視不會害到別人你聽懂意思嗎?所以說這個雷夢的事情是假的\n\n7\n00:02:04,736 --> 00:02:30,188\n你如果用農藥,不夠機率就燒到別人的臨座會．會造成未來品牌廠它拒絕使用．所以這個部分可不可以多加強宣導我想除了加強宣導我們也要務實做到．就是說因為你在燒的每一口產．如果噴藥不一次的時候．你會有非常大的問題．所以我們會推動就是集團的共同的防治這是附帶疑問的我請教一下你是不是農家主帝\n\n8\n00:02:33,103 --> 00:02:34,924\n我這邊創造一個叫做農業學工啦\n\n9\n00:02:58,820 --> 00:03:22,018\n農忙、下田、農閒、上學啊你有沒有聽過建教合作以前他叫施謙是在課金有有高職的建教合作只有暑假才去上工嗎?不是不是他是整個的工廠的工班跟他們的學期把他分開來工廠不忙的時候學校幫他們安排課程這樣了解了齁?對我現在開始詢問了來我們從業人口要跌破50萬那怎麼辦?是不是你們就要移工是不是這樣?\n\n10\n00:03:23,246 --> 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