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00:03:08,108\n那避免這個預測機制失衡嗎?博林你有什麼想法?謝謝委員的建議那事實上我們現在也在啟動就是說我們現在的調查其實過去的調查很多盲點那我們其實已經去要去掌握過去的這些年度的這些高那個需求量每個月的需求量然後現在目前還有一個重點就是老母雞的淘汰是現在目前淡廠的一個自己的一個調整機制那這些調整我們現在因為\n\n9\n00:03:09,108 --> 00:03:11,850\n對,我們會這樣子,然後這次最主要是消費端的那個拉力、需求力拉不起來啦\n\n10\n00:03:38,709 --> 00:03:43,412\n所以今天的主題是農業移工政策改善你們提出精進作為精進作為你必須要有一個時間表精進作為兩個面向增加人力供給第二個\n\n11\n00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:21,762\n就是減少、減省人力需求攻擊面增加然後呢需求面把它降低對不對?是那你也有時間表第一個你們上個禮拜\n\n12\n00:04:23,274 --> 00:04:39,409\n跟相關的單位有結論按照這個農業能力需求跟勞動部提案申請增加農糧跟畜牧產業的農業移工緣額來那個農業部有代表來沒有那個勞動部這個什麼時候會執行這個什麼時候會執行那個部長你們\n\n13\n00:04:44,073 --> 00:05:12,379\n我們現在是預估就是因為我們現在的一萬兩千人大概預估到年底會大概滿了現在是八千多人那我們已經啟動這個評估八千人現期旅籍你們有這個會議結論你們要跟提案跟勞動部提案嘛對不對什麼時候要提那提出多少元額他們7月開會的時候就因為勞動部有例行的一個會議我們在7月的時候就會提出去所以你這些要序名清楚你要讓讓所有的這個有需求單位瞭解你們一定有做的這些樣的作為齁\n\n14\n00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:29,461\n另外你們加強改善季節性缺工的問題好你說移工跨區這年農會都不知道嘛移工可以跨區是跨區還是跨市跨縣市都可以有南宮北廖嗎\n\n15\n00:05:31,178 --> 00:05:50,822\n他會隨著這個季節的收穫的季節有沒有會在跨最主要是跨縣市喔臨近的縣市為主因為他現在要交通的問題所以你這要講清楚你推動外籍移工跨區這個施辦就要上路了沒上路了沒啊沒合是有幾個建築\n\n16\n00:05:53,470 --> 00:06:17,561\n所以你要把這個做法讓所有的需求單位了解可以跨區你有很多政策雖然是利益良善但是往往我們這個基層需求單位不了解我們有哪些有效的政策所以不知道你怎麼想所以這部分你要加強宣導跟這個相關的農事單位或是農會組織農場加強去宣導\n\n17\n00:06:21,894 --> 00:06:46,103\n所以很多政策就是你們缺乏宣傳然後你未來這個你要把這個本來本勞跟外勞的合配比這個上上禮拜我開過記者會農業缺工這是一個存在已久的問題但你拿出來對策沒有辦法有效解決嘛如果有效解決就不會一直有缺工嘛對不對這代表你們政策失靈啊\n\n18\n00:06:47,796 --> 00:07:08,362\n所以你現在未來要把你這個10天以下事業單位合位比跟這個一般農民團體相同這部分什麼時候上路?我們也是大概在7月的會議的時候我們一併會提出來所以這個就是要趕快建基立基然後你說減省人力需求每一鄉鎮都要有農機Uber\n\n19\n00:07:09,198 --> 00:07:28,584\n什麼什麼上路我們大概現在開始已經在推動了齁那我們預計齁我們現在大概兩四年之內會全部的一鄉鎮一Uber但是兩年一鄉鎮一Uber對就是重大的產業區全國重大的重要的這個產區裡面一鄉鎮是一Uber我以為你這個連台北市信譽區都要沒有沒有重要的農業生產區才有啦所以你要把這個\n\n20\n00:07:30,645 --> 00:07:49,122\n你不是每鄉鎮都成立你應該是這個農業縣主要的不是農業縣所有的鄉鎮都需要對不對你要把這區把它列明出來包括高雄市、台南市、屏東縣有哪些鄉鎮有這個所謂的農機uber\n\n21\n00:07:52,216 --> 00:07:59,658\n你什麼時候可以上路?什麼時候可以讓農友可以共享農機?你要講清楚啊!\n\n22\n00:08:03,419 --> 00:08:24,926\n我想我們這個政策才在上個月沒有應該是兩三個禮拜前確認然後現在正在去規劃每一區的政府區然後現在已經有15團的所以我們會去針對重要的產區規劃大力道有政策要有效率而且要有效果雙效合一人民才有感\n\n23\n00:08:25,566 --> 00:08:27,166\n會不會影響到農業相關系統的招生?\n\n24\n00:08:48,866 --> 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供應跟需求供應跟需求永遠對不上\n所以你這個生產預設機制是不是能夠過去的經驗就用大數據你現在不是有你的AI嗎?\n你用這個去預測你該怎麼樣去處理,不要每次這個產銷失調的時候就去補助。不是補助進口,就是補助淘汰這個寡產蛋機。一直在循環。所以問題是你要索購錢之後,到底問題出在哪裡?你們可以用AI、用人工智慧去協助優化你們的生產預測機制。\n那避免這個預測機制失衡嗎?博林你有什麼想法?謝謝委員的建議那事實上我們現在也在啟動就是說我們現在的調查其實過去的調查很多盲點那我們其實已經去要去掌握過去的這些年度的這些高那個需求量每個月的需求量然後現在目前還有一個重點就是老母雞的淘汰是現在目前淡廠的一個自己的一個調整機制那這些調整我們現在因為\n對,我們會這樣子,然後這次最主要是消費端的那個拉力、需求力拉不起來啦\n所以今天的主題是農業移工政策改善你們提出精進作為精進作為你必須要有一個時間表精進作為兩個面向增加人力供給第二個\n就是減少、減省人力需求攻擊面增加然後呢需求面把它降低對不對?是那你也有時間表第一個你們上個禮拜\n跟相關的單位有結論按照這個農業能力需求跟勞動部提案申請增加農糧跟畜牧產業的農業移工緣額來 那個農業部有代表來沒有 那個勞動部這個什麼時候會執行這個什麼時候會執行 那個部長你們\n我們現在是預估就是因為我們現在的一萬兩千人大概預估到年底會大概滿了現在是八千多人那我們已經啟動這個評估八千人現期旅籍你們有這個會議結論你們要跟提案跟勞動部提案嘛對不對什麼時候要提那提出多少元額他們7月開會的時候就因為勞動部有例行的一個會議我們在7月的時候就會提出去所以你這些要序名清楚你要讓讓所有的這個有需求單位瞭解你們一定有做的這些樣的作為齁\n另外你們加強改善季節性缺工的問題好你說移工跨區這年農會都不知道嘛移工可以跨區是跨區還是跨市跨縣市都可以有南宮北廖嗎\n他會隨著這個季節的收穫的季節有沒有會在跨最主要是跨縣市喔臨近的縣市為主因為他現在要交通的問題所以你這要講清楚你推動外籍移工跨區這個施辦就要上路了沒上路了沒啊沒合是有幾個建築\n所以你要把這個做法 讓所有的需求單位了解 可以跨區你有很多政策 雖然是利益良善 但是往往我們這個基層需求單位不了解 我們有哪些有效的政策所以不知道你怎麼想所以這部分你要加強宣導 跟這個相關的農事單位或是農會組織 農場加強去宣導\n所以很多政策就是你們缺乏宣傳然後你未來這個你要把這個本來本勞跟外勞的合配比這個上上禮拜我開過記者會農業缺工這是一個存在已久的問題但你拿出來對策沒有辦法有效解決嘛如果有效解決就不會一直有缺工嘛對不對 這代表你們政策失靈啊\n所以你現在未來要把你這個10天以下事業單位合位比跟這個一般農民團體相同這部分什麼時候上路?我們也是大概在7月的會議的時候我們一併會提出來所以這個就是要趕快建基立基然後你說減省人力需求每一鄉鎮都要有農機Uber\n什麼什麼上路我們大概現在開始已經在推動了齁那我們預計齁我們現在大概兩四年之內會全部的一鄉鎮一Uber但是兩年一鄉鎮一Uber對就是重大的產業區 全國重大的重要的這個產區裡面一鄉鎮是一Uber我以為你這個連台北市信譽區都要沒有沒有重要的農業生產區才有啦所以你要把這個\n你不是每鄉鎮都成立你應該是這個農業縣主要的不是農業縣所有的鄉鎮都需要對不對你要把這區把它列明出來包括高雄市、台南市、屏東縣有哪些鄉鎮有這個所謂的農機uber\n你什麼時候可以上路?什麼時候可以讓農友可以共享農機?你要講清楚啊!\n我想我們這個政策才在上個月沒有應該是兩三個禮拜前確認然後現在正在去規劃每一區的政府區然後現在已經有15團的所以我們會去針對重要的產區規劃大力道有政策要有效率而且要有效果雙效合一人民才有感\n會不會影響到農業相關系統的招生?\n我想會有一些影響我們有曾經跟相關的大學的老師去討論那相關的就是AI的部分可能是你們是預測未來10年我們農業相關系所的招生的下降的比率人數的比率這個都要\n委員會主席\n對,我們確定會支持這三千萬你來倒數你勒\n臺中市也面臨同樣的狀況所以中央要對地方這種特別是漁港、漁民設施跟漁民、跟漁業有相關的都要加強補助會了解我們會質詢為了整個漁民的安全跟整個漁港的安全性\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.222 --> 00:01.042\n邱志偉委員請做選擇。邱志偉委員\n\n00:30.316 --> 00:30.676\n農業部陳部長我們再請陳部長\n\n01:01.297 --> 01:01.758\n農業部變成雞蛋部\n\n01:15.215 --> 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