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00:00:42,588\n今天我們聯席其實有兩個主要的主題一個是具有一些道德高度的是針對馬拉喀什世界貿易組織協定的修正議定書的審議還有它附件漁業補貼協定這個部分那麼另外一個部分就是有關於審議就是終止就是臺薩洪FTA的案子那我想說針對第二個案子的時候其實就是因為斷交所導致的後續的一個相關的一個影響那我們當然是很不喜歡審到這樣子的案子所以希望外交部加加油\n\n3\n00:00:43,668 --> 00:00:56,663\n對於中美洲我們原本的邦交的狀態請務必顧好現有數的邦交請都務必顧好因為審到這樣的一個終止FTA案其實我們都覺得是非常的傷感不愉快的狀態\n\n4\n00:00:59,065 --> 00:01:23,033\n接下來我想第一個問針對這個具有道德高度這個馬拉喀什世界貿易組織協定修正議定書這個部分還有我們漁業補貼協定因為到目前為止大概164個WTO國家裡面還有超過一半以上其實還沒有把這個送到我們的秘書處裡面去那我在想說外交部這邊有沒有去理解到底原因是什麼\n\n5\n00:01:25,748 --> 00:01:25,768\n二、審\n\n6\n00:01:47,054 --> 00:01:47,174\n二、審二、審\n\n7\n00:02:12,732 --> 00:02:30,919\n報告委員由於這個協定的這個部分它禁止補貼的部分是屬於IUU違法的這個項目還有過於的這個項目還有以及在公海作業的項目在本部漁業署的這個評估之下目前這三項的這樣的協定的修訂對我們的漁業的這個部分並沒有太直接的影響\n\n8\n00:02:31,659 --> 00:02:58,749\n因為我們長期以來就是禁止IUU、漁勞這樣一個行為。那我想問,因為其實上個月,現在我們七月嘛,六月份的時候其實還有蘇澳的漁船做那個割旗棄聲的這樣的一個動作。我想說去年到今年年中為止,到底臺灣有多少這樣子類似的個案是在違反IUU跟過漁的相關行為?漁業署這邊請各位做個說明。\n\n9\n00:03:01,836 --> 00:03:22,661\n報告委員,上次說的這個部分的話,像這種違規的漁船一旦涉及違規的話,那我們對於漁船擁有的補貼、漁率撤回並追繳,那所以基本上會對於這樣的一個行為予以懲處。是,那我問的其實是從去年,就是最簡單,從去年到今年上半年,總共有多少這樣子的個案?你們有沒有掌握?\n\n10\n00:03:29,426 --> 00:03:44,472\n這個部分的話,我們如果回去再統計再跟委員做答詢。因為我在想說我們做一個這樣的一個政策的一個決議的時候,我想說應該要先做有一些相關的一些評估,那我們現在到底有多少的一個\n\n11\n00:03:46,857 --> 00:03:46,877\n二、審\n\n12\n00:04:00,472 --> 00:04:28,266\n我們目前的船有一千零五十艘那僱用的船員大概是兩萬兩千多人左右兩萬兩千多人嘛吼那大部分是本國籍還是外國籍?絕大部分是外國籍絕大部分是外國籍嘛吼那我想問一個部分吼因為農業部他在境外僱用非我國籍船員許可及管理辦法第六條裡面他有規定說要強制遠洋漁工必須要投保醫療險、意外險還有申僱險對不對?\n\n13\n00:04:32,007 --> 00:04:55,473\n到目前為止的時候因為沒有本國的國內保險公司願意承保這樣子的一個業務造成一個很多的困擾那針對這個部分的時候我想說我們政府這邊應該要怎麼去做針對沒有保險公司要承攬就是遠洋漁工的一個保險的一個部分\n\n14\n00:04:56,797 --> 00:05:19,987\n這個部分的話事實上除了國內他沒有投保之外那目前的遠洋漁船他會尋求國外的這個保險公司來進行投保那所以我們對於這個遠洋漁船的這個要求是沒有改變的所以目前在遠洋漁船上所聘用的這個外籍漁工的話每位都投保剛剛法律上所規定的相關保險那我們也有這個實際的做進行查核\n\n15\n00:05:22,769 --> 00:05:32,778\n因為其實我們辦公室企在3月份的時候有邀請農業部、勞動部、金管會、保險局還有移民署、法務部跟保險工會召開了一個協調會那麼當場的時候保險局是希望說\n\n16\n00:05:37,022 --> 00:05:37,042\n二、審\n\n17\n00:06:03,299 --> 00:06:27,064\n謝謝委員的關心我們應該分成兩個部分第一個部分就是在我們沿近海作業的漁船那這個部分我們依照就業服務法引進的部分他本來就有勞保這些相關的規定那另外漁業組也另外協助那遠洋的部分就是他在海作業是在公海所以由漁船公司去向船東向不同的保險公司投保也包括國內也包括國外那大部分都是跟國外保險公司來投保\n\n18\n00:06:27,244 --> 00:06:51,852\n我最後補充一句就是因為我們在當時的時候漁業署這邊曾經講過說我們漁業署會進行船員訪查和勞動檢查的部分那本期是要求是我們漁業署這邊對於外籍船員投保的情形進行一些統計跟研究所以當你們在做訪查的時候我們希望說能夠把這部分落實那後續如何做請漁業署再到本辦公室來做報告\n\n19\n00:06:52,472 --> 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03:22.661\n報告委員,上次說的這個部分的話,像這種違規的漁船一旦涉及違規的話,那我們對於漁船擁有的補貼、漁率撤回並追繳,那所以基本上會對於這樣的一個行為予以懲處。是,那我問的其實是從去年,就是最簡單,從去年到今年上半年,總共有多少這樣子的個案?你們有沒有掌握?\n\n03:29.426 --> 03:44.472\n這個部分的話,我們如果回去再統計再跟委員做答詢。因為我在想說我們做一個這樣的一個政策的一個決議的時候,我想說應該要先做有一些相關的一些評估,那我們現在到底有多少的一個\n\n03:46.857 --> 03:46.877\n二、審\n\n04:00.472 --> 04:28.266\n我們目前的船有一千零五十艘那僱用的船員大概是兩萬兩千多人左右兩萬兩千多人嘛吼那大部分是本國籍還是外國籍?絕大部分是外國籍絕大部分是外國籍嘛吼那我想問一個部分吼因為農業部他在境外僱用非我國籍船員許可及管理辦法第六條裡面他有規定說要強制遠洋漁工必須要投保醫療險、意外險還有申僱險對不對?\n\n04:32.007 --> 04:55.473\n到目前為止的時候因為沒有本國的國內保險公司願意承保這樣子的一個業務造成一個很多的困擾那針對這個部分的時候我想說我們政府這邊應該要怎麼去做針對沒有保險公司要承攬就是遠洋漁工的一個保險的一個部分\n\n04:56.797 --> 05:19.987\n這個部分的話事實上除了國內他沒有投保之外那目前的遠洋漁船他會尋求國外的這個保險公司來進行投保那所以我們對於這個遠洋漁船的這個要求是沒有改變的所以目前在遠洋漁船上所聘用的這個外籍漁工的話每位都投保剛剛法律上所規定的相關保險那我們也有這個實際的做進行查核\n\n05:22.769 --> 05:32.778\n因為其實我們辦公室企在3月份的時候有邀請農業部、勞動部、金管會、保險局還有移民署、法務部跟保險工會召開了一個協調會那麼當場的時候保險局是希望說\n\n05:37.022 --> 05:37.042\n二、審\n\n06:03.299 --> 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