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00:02:39,339\n第三因為兩岸之間我們會透過陸委會這邊來跟陸方這邊來協商要求放人那我們也呼籲中國大陸不要為難漁民因為漁民作業非常的辛苦他們也是為了養家糊口那雙方能夠務實的協調解決問題真的不要為難漁民,漁民真的非常的辛苦那根據於葉署署長您的了解因為您跟陸委會這邊應該也都包含是海委會這邊應該我們都已經做過討論嘛\n\n8\n00:02:41,781 --> 00:03:06,401\n那明明我們有三艘海巡船為什麼人還是被帶走?請問你們是否有跟海巡署討論過為何會有此種疏失?整個相關作業執法的情形我想海巡也有信用稿對外說明說他們今天早上10點會對外整個說明執法的問題但是我們所掌握的部分其實海巡的反應非常的迅速那他們聽到消息了以後船馬上過來對馬上派進去馬上過來嘛我們不苛責我們不苛責說他們有立刻過來\n\n9\n00:03:10,785 --> 00:03:35,135\n但未來是不是我們的漁船、漁民都會置於風險當中?漁業署有什麼樣的方法可以協助?這會不會變成常態?漁業署能夠提供我們漁民如何的幫助跟保護?是,我們不去預測啦,但是我們會告訴我們的漁民說,這個相關的規定還有我們作業的海域的部分必須要注意。\n\n10\n00:03:35,575 --> 00:04:03,554\n可是你說有重疊的部分啊那他如果在重疊的部分裡面那他去撈魚的時候那被又發生同樣的情況該怎麼辦呢這個其實我們也希望中國大陸能夠尊重我們漁船作業的權利本來這個海域雙方的漁船都有在那個地方作業我們就尊重這些漁民作業的權利那我們臺灣也有跟其他的國家比如說臺日、臺非我們都有重疊海域其實雙方是透過協商去做相關的漁業管理\n\n11\n00:04:04,495 --> 00:04:22,722\n那我們什麼時候會跟中國大陸去做協商?這個我們會跟陸委會這邊一起來努力。那一起來努力有沒有時間表?因為這個雙方的協商不是單方面。因為現在很急嘛。對,現在很急,因為我們希望兩名船長、兩名船員能夠台灣可能趕快回來嘛。那你們有沒有一個時間表什麼時候要來啟動這樣子的一個協商?\n\n12\n00:04:25,943 --> 00:04:46,292\n我想當務之急應該是讓我們的船跟人能夠儘速回到臺灣來保障他們的安全這個是第一個要做的部分那你們現在目前有沒有了解說跟陸委會這邊已經有向大陸這邊有一個確切的時間要來協商這件事情還是目前是完全沒有的情況今天早上我們跟陸委會這邊來聯絡陸委會那邊已經展開作業了\n\n13\n00:04:50,275 --> 00:05:11,455\n我再繼續問一下外交部這邊雖然此事是由陸委會海委會長官但是我想問這個事情如果變成全球注目因為現在大家都很關心臺海兩岸之間的關聯性而且不只是兩岸關係也是全球都在關注這件事情請問外交部的態度是什麼\n\n14\n00:05:13,005 --> 00:05:42,185\n各位回報也就是說在最近中華人民共和國海警三號令發布也就是說在相關的這個海域如果說有這種他們認為說他們的這個執行的程序規定在他們的海域內等等這些他們會登檢其實我們當初在6月14號外交部就已經發布了一個新聞聲明主要是針對這樣一個措施我們提出向國際社會來做一個立場的表達也就是說一切的任何作為應該要符合國際法\n\n15\n00:05:42,785 --> 00:05:42,946\n那有用嗎?\n\n16\n00:05:52,928 --> 00:06:06,233\n至少我覺得在目前為止很多其他國家包括很多在南海、東海這些當事的國家都當然還有包括美國都有很多的相關的議題的立場的表態那這部分這次有人表態了嗎?這一次目前為止因為還發生的才發生而已所以未來會有其他國家來表態支持以及協助這部分我們政府是已經有海巡署已經發布了我是說其他國家的部分\n\n17\n00:06:18,337 --> 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謝謝徐小新委員各位請回接下來進行巡達委員林楚英委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席。我們請外交部常務次長以及這個農業部的漁業署張署長。學位好。\n雖然今天來的不是海巡署但是最近昨天發生的大事跟漁業署還有外交部我認為也有很大的關係所以有一點問題想要來詢問據了解昨天大靜滿88號在晚間8點10分金門復國敦東北角海域21里處在捕撈小館的時候\n突然有兩艘的中國海警船接近,然後放下小艇強行登檢。中國海警船控制船長跟船上的通訊系統,使得通訊系統中斷。兩艘海警船把這個船壓到中國圍頭方向行駛。我方派出三艘海巡艇到場,原本他們有兩艘海巡艦,後來增到七艘。\n像這樣子本來是大陸復席休餘期間的喔可是呢海巡署說後續將由陸委會跟漁業署透過兩岸管道協調陸方那媒體報導的是扣押的船上與船上有一名臺灣的船長跟五級的母民的外籍員工所以我想要先請問一下我們的漁業署的署長\n在這個部分跟陸委會你們要怎麼透過兩岸的管道協商陸方讓我們的外籍漁工以及我們的臺灣船長能夠順利回臺是謝謝委員的關心我想有幾點必須要先說明第一個部分兩個部分兩岸之間本來就有很多海域是重疊的是那我們漁船作業的區域其實過去我們的漁船當天他們是在我國管轄範圍還是不是在我國管轄範圍本來兩岸之間就有很多海域是重疊的\n那當原來他們作業的區域也是以往我們的漁船就是在作業的區域這是第一個要說明的那第二個部分目前船上我們所掌握的是有兩名臺籍的船員包括船長那有三名印尼籍的船員大概是這樣的情形\n第三因為兩岸之間我們會透過陸委會這邊來跟陸方這邊來協商要求放人那我們也呼籲中國大陸不要為難漁民因為漁民作業非常的辛苦他們也是為了養家糊口那雙方能夠務實的協調解決問題真的不要為難漁民,漁民真的非常的辛苦那根據於葉署署長您的了解因為您跟陸委會這邊應該也都包含是海委會這邊應該我們都已經做過討論嘛\n那明明我們有三艘海巡船為什麼人還是被帶走?請問你們是否有跟海巡署討論過為何會有此種疏失?整個相關作業執法的情形我想海巡也有信用稿對外說明說他們今天早上10點會對外整個說明執法的問題但是我們所掌握的部分其實海巡的反應非常的迅速那他們聽到消息了以後船馬上過來對馬上派進去馬上過來嘛我們不苛責我們不苛責說他們有立刻過來\n但未來是不是我們的漁船、漁民都會置於風險當中?漁業署有什麼樣的方法可以協助?這會不會變成常態?漁業署能夠提供我們漁民如何的幫助跟保護?是,我們不去預測啦,但是我們會告訴我們的漁民說,這個相關的規定還有我們作業的海域的部分必須要注意。\n可是你說有重疊的部分啊那他如果在重疊的部分裡面那他去撈魚的時候那被又發生同樣的情況該怎麼辦呢這個其實我們也希望中國大陸能夠尊重我們漁船作業的權利本來這個海域雙方的漁船都有在那個地方作業我們就尊重這些漁民作業的權利那我們臺灣也有跟其他的國家比如說臺日、臺非我們都有重疊海域其實雙方是透過協商去做相關的漁業管理\n那我們什麼時候會跟中國大陸去做協商?這個我們會跟陸委會這邊一起來努力。那一起來努力有沒有時間表?因為這個雙方的協商不是單方面。因為現在很急嘛。對,現在很急,因為我們希望兩名船長、兩名船員能夠台灣可能趕快回來嘛。那你們有沒有一個時間表什麼時候要來啟動這樣子的一個協商?\n我想當務之急應該是讓我們的船跟人能夠儘速回到臺灣來保障他們的安全這個是第一個要做的部分那你們現在目前有沒有了解說跟陸委會這邊已經有向大陸這邊有一個確切的時間要來協商這件事情還是目前是完全沒有的情況今天早上我們跟陸委會這邊來聯絡陸委會那邊已經展開作業了\n我再繼續問一下外交部這邊雖然此事是由陸委會海委會長官但是我想問這個事情如果變成全球注目因為現在大家都很關心臺海兩岸之間的關聯性而且不只是兩岸關係也是全球都在關注這件事情請問外交部的態度是什麼\n各位回報也就是說在最近中華人民共和國海警三號令發布也就是說在相關的這個海域如果說有這種他們認為說他們的這個執行的程序規定在他們的海域內等等這些他們會登檢其實我們當初在6月14號外交部就已經發布了一個新聞聲明主要是針對這樣一個措施我們提出向國際社會來做一個立場的表達也就是說一切的任何作為應該要符合國際法\n那有用嗎?\n至少我覺得在目前為止很多其他國家包括很多在南海、東海這些當事的國家都當然還有包括美國都有很多的相關的議題的立場的表態那這部分 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02:39.339\n第三因為兩岸之間我們會透過陸委會這邊來跟陸方這邊來協商要求放人那我們也呼籲中國大陸不要為難漁民因為漁民作業非常的辛苦他們也是為了養家糊口那雙方能夠務實的協調解決問題真的不要為難漁民,漁民真的非常的辛苦那根據於葉署署長您的了解因為您跟陸委會這邊應該也都包含是海委會這邊應該我們都已經做過討論嘛\n\n02:41.781 --> 03:06.401\n那明明我們有三艘海巡船為什麼人還是被帶走?請問你們是否有跟海巡署討論過為何會有此種疏失?整個相關作業執法的情形我想海巡也有信用稿對外說明說他們今天早上10點會對外整個說明執法的問題但是我們所掌握的部分其實海巡的反應非常的迅速那他們聽到消息了以後船馬上過來對馬上派進去馬上過來嘛我們不苛責我們不苛責說他們有立刻過來\n\n03:10.785 --> 03:35.135\n但未來是不是我們的漁船、漁民都會置於風險當中?漁業署有什麼樣的方法可以協助?這會不會變成常態?漁業署能夠提供我們漁民如何的幫助跟保護?是,我們不去預測啦,但是我們會告訴我們的漁民說,這個相關的規定還有我們作業的海域的部分必須要注意。\n\n03:35.575 --> 04:03.554\n可是你說有重疊的部分啊那他如果在重疊的部分裡面那他去撈魚的時候那被又發生同樣的情況該怎麼辦呢這個其實我們也希望中國大陸能夠尊重我們漁船作業的權利本來這個海域雙方的漁船都有在那個地方作業我們就尊重這些漁民作業的權利那我們臺灣也有跟其他的國家比如說臺日、臺非我們都有重疊海域其實雙方是透過協商去做相關的漁業管理\n\n04:04.495 --> 04:22.722\n那我們什麼時候會跟中國大陸去做協商?這個我們會跟陸委會這邊一起來努力。那一起來努力有沒有時間表?因為這個雙方的協商不是單方面。因為現在很急嘛。對,現在很急,因為我們希望兩名船長、兩名船員能夠台灣可能趕快回來嘛。那你們有沒有一個時間表什麼時候要來啟動這樣子的一個協商?\n\n04:25.943 --> 04:46.292\n我想當務之急應該是讓我們的船跟人能夠儘速回到臺灣來保障他們的安全這個是第一個要做的部分那你們現在目前有沒有了解說跟陸委會這邊已經有向大陸這邊有一個確切的時間要來協商這件事情還是目前是完全沒有的情況今天早上我們跟陸委會這邊來聯絡陸委會那邊已經展開作業了\n\n04:50.275 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