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\"start\": 717.964, \"end\": 718.065, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"質\"}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"嚴\"}, {\"word\": \"寬\"}, {\"word\": \"恆\"}, {\"word\": \"、\"}, {\"word\": \"嚴\"}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 718.065, \"end\": 718.085, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"員\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,049 --> 00:00:13,065\n我們的金管會主委還有我們的促參司司長林彭主委、促參司李司長委員好是主委\n\n2\n00:00:14,110 --> 00:00:38,875\n我想針對今天修法的這個議題那就是說單純降低受險業的一個資金從海外投資的一個比例那其實有沒有辦法解決問題有沒有配套的一個修法然後我們擔心讓回流的資金流入了股市及房市那剛才聽到主委回答得非常清楚這些如果是我們從\n\n3\n00:00:40,755 --> 00:00:40,955\n委員會主席\n\n4\n00:01:08,695 --> 00:01:37,617\n那其實在七年底可以應用的資金是32兆那我想請教這個主委就是說如果再加上不動產上的一個地上權還有有駕鎮建那還有就是目前還有就是2.4兆的一個額度可以提供那個公建的一個建設那從這個數字裡頭你來看的時候你對於今天的一個修緩那你\n\n5\n00:01:38,357 --> 00:01:58,411\n最直接有沒有什麼樣的一個問題?多出來的錢怎麼辦?是,跟委員報告,就是剛剛提到就是說這次的修法其實為了鼓勵投資公建那其實這是我們是支持的但是就以這個目的而言但是我們看到就是我們現在要投資公建額度還非常的大\n\n6\n00:01:58,951 --> 00:01:58,971\n韓國瑜\n\n7\n00:02:15,774 --> 00:02:41,130\n主委錢不是越多越好嗎?投資的金額不是越多越好嗎?這要看有那個標的跟未納就剛才提到就是說當我們台灣有很好投資工具的時候保險業自然會來投資我想說如果台灣沒有這麼多的工具他自然就會因為他的資金是有成本他一定會去尋找出路這出路的話根據我們保險法146的規定他有很多的項目他可以投資其中可能就是大家比較關切的像比如說\n\n8\n00:02:42,672 --> 00:02:56,548\n這個有價證券市場、不動產市場這些東西都是他可以來投資的項目而他們最想要投資的所謂的固定收益公債、公司債、台灣的規模剛剛央行副總裁也提到了這個規模現在不足以支撐這麼大的一個規模是\n\n9\n00:02:57,088 --> 00:03:13,980\n所以這個非常清楚嘛那我們針對全國21家的受險公司海外的一個投資都超過25%那甚至就是說我們如果下修到這個25%的話全國的保險公司可能都會重新再做他的資產分配\n\n10\n00:03:14,801 --> 00:03:30,757\n那我們知道就是說其實在這個21家的一個受選公司裡頭幾乎大家這個就是等於是收到那個資金的一個比例都非常高甚至就是投資的一個比例達到45%的有4家這4家的話就是說\n\n11\n00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:54,235\n這四家就是我們在看不管是國泰、不管是富邦、南山、凱基那如果這些錢回來的時候也一樣我們在想到的是你從國外回來的這個互差力有多嚴重如果你現在你可以馬上就是說很直接的評估上這個會有多嚴重\n\n12\n00:03:55,456 --> 00:04:12,290\n我剛才跟委員報告過就是說我們這個資金其實上在海外他們會投資這麼多其實剛剛看到那個四家是從他們是一家一家一個比例一個比例申請的這四家代表說他們在整個封控或整個的資產配置做得好我們才會讓他提高到這麼高\n\n13\n00:04:13,471 --> 00:04:14,152\n邀請中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部列席備詢。\n\n14\n00:04:35,413 --> 00:04:54,591\n那我想在這裡再跟那個主委跟市長探討一個就是綠石修法以後我們可用來做公設的一個那個公共建設的一個投資可是金管會你是不是應該儘速去評估如何創造這個政策的一個誘因\n\n15\n00:04:55,211 --> 00:05:23,226\n因為我們從建設基金到那個公共的一個建設有常識的PPP然後可以有穩定的收入的時候你的誘因如果是不足的話那就是沒有辦法創造更多的一個投資的大家的一個動能那我在這裡請教市長如果就是說跨部會的跟今晚會一起就是共同的一個討論到底可以創造什麼樣的一個誘因你是不是可以簡單的說一下\n\n16\n00:05:24,815 --> 00:05:51,994\n是,謝謝委員的提示那有關跟金管會的合作其實金管會最近在修所謂的投信投顧法我們也有提供相當的意見給金管會這邊來參考那以這個財政部的立場呢我想我們主要是促攤法的一個主管機關所以大概我們會針對機關跟所謂的投資企業兩邊那來分別給予一些協助\n\n17\n00:05:53,014 --> 00:06:15,877\n尤其在機關的部分,我們大概分成用獎勵,比如說發放簽約的獎勵金,讓獎勵金的用途可以更好用。鼓勵機關能夠來使用這些獎勵金,讓初餐的執行更順暢。除了獎勵還有什麼其他的一個方式,可以讓這些受選業者有穩定的一個收入呢?\n\n18\n00:06:16,363 --> 00:06:35,662\n那對於業者來講其實所謂的有償PVP的這些案件目前我們也正在做所謂的政策評估那未來包括像焚化爐、污水下水道甚至交通建設的這些都可以用這樣的一個模式綠能綠能也是同樣的可以納入\n\n19\n00:06:36,403 --> 00:06:48,989\n那所以這樣子有償PPP因為他具有比較穩定的一個收入那對於保險業如果他要投資公共建設的話呢那這一塊的資金的收入應該是比較穩定好我想這個市長你講的也\n\n20\n00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:51,750\n東華大學東華大學\n\n21\n00:07:18,385 --> 00:07:42,259\n就是他評估就是在整個強震的災損裡頭那損失了20億那各界的捐款其實不多啦那可是我們針對的就是說教育部他編了預算就是把這個20億的一個災損預計在三年到位可是在這裡我想那個請教請教那個就是我們的那個主委\n\n22\n00:07:44,989 --> 00:08:04,319\n這個東華大學的校舍地震引起的一個火災那保險公司為什麼不理賠?那買了保險是不是有利於就是說對我們災損的一個協助呢?這個齁我們會去了解一下他買的那個所謂的險種是什麼因為其實\n\n23\n00:08:05,916 --> 00:08:27,473\n各位在這邊也趁這個機會跟大家稍微做一個宣導很多人在做這個風險管理購買保險的時候他可能沒有仔細去看清楚他承保的範圍我想這件事情我們會了解以後再跟委員報告他保單的內容還有就是他現在理賠的狀況再跟委員做說明\n\n24\n00:08:27,893 --> 00:08:51,444\n是主委你是就是等於是風管的一個那個專家那如果我們用就是針對的這幾個大學他都是在一個斷層帶上面那這些學校我們簡單的去把它那個找出來搜尋出來就是說其實他很多校舍然後他並沒有那個投保商業的地震險是是是\n\n25\n00:08:51,764 --> 00:09:14,066\n那甚至就是說民間的一般的一個住宅其實大概只有四成投了這個地震險那大家都買了火險那只有成大他其實還有買了一個那個基本的地震險那你怎麼去看待就是說所有的學校還有公務系統裡頭我們的保險的一個能量是這麼弱\n\n26\n00:09:15,487 --> 00:09:35,895\n是,謝謝委員,這個委員蒐集資料真的很完整就是說這個確實我們在過去投保火災險的時候因為大家都沒有注意到其實地震因為我們過去是因為假設你有房貸的話你有房貸的話通常我們銀行實務就會要求你要買一個這個火險這時候就會一定搭有這個所謂地震險的基本的地震保險對這個\n\n27\n00:09:37,595 --> 00:09:37,615\n韓國瑜\n\n28\n00:09:57,216 --> 00:10:20,632\n主委是不是只有學校切法風險管理的一個概念連重大的公共建設其實也是一樣切法這個風險管理的一個概念你知道就是我們從新北那個黃川縣這個4.42億裡頭其實他沒有買保險他只有廠商的保固險那保固險還賠不到那你看\n\n29\n00:10:21,613 --> 00:10:29,328\n一樣要就是我們的政府跟我們民眾的那個納稅然後去補貼這些就是他所那個\n\n30\n00:10:30,666 --> 00:10:31,026\n委員會主席\n\n31\n00:11:00,287 --> 00:11:24,522\n那你是風險管理專家所以這個我想由我們自身做起謝謝委員的提醒我們一定是趕快來去了解所以我舉的一個案例就是台積電的風險管理的一個做法它其實都是一個提高國家跟災害的一個應變能力它本來損失了兩三百億可是它扣除了保險理賠之後它相關的地震的損失才\n\n32\n00:11:25,382 --> 00:11:49,743\n只有30億這個都是我們一個非常好的一個參考的一個標的在這裡本席要求金管會就是評估就是如何跟各個機關合作提供業者更多的一個投資臺灣基礎建設的一個誘因那也希望你跟各機關的合作盤點現有的一個設備的風險管理狀況那協助建立中央風險控管的一個系統謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n\n33\n00:11:57,783 --> 00:11:58,085\n下一位質詢請嚴寬恆、嚴委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n49\t13065\t我們的金管會主委還有我們的促參司司長林彭主委、促參司李司長委員好是主委\n14110\t38875\t我想針對今天修法的這個議題那就是說單純降低受險業的一個資金從海外投資的一個比例那其實有沒有辦法解決問題有沒有配套的一個修法然後我們擔心讓回流的資金流入了股市及房市那剛才聽到主委回答得非常清楚這些如果是我們從\n40755\t40955\t委員會主席\n68695\t97617\t那其實在七年底可以應用的資金是32兆那我想請教這個主委就是說如果再加上不動產上的一個地上權還有有駕鎮建那還有就是目前還有就是2.4兆的一個額度可以提供那個公建的一個建設那從這個數字裡頭你來看的時候你對於今天的一個修緩那你\n98357\t118411\t最直接有沒有什麼樣的一個問題?多出來的錢怎麼辦?是,跟委員報告,就是剛剛提到就是說這次的修法其實為了鼓勵投資公建那其實這是我們是支持的但是就以這個目的而言但是我們看到就是我們現在要投資公建額度還非常的大\n118951\t118971\t韓國瑜\n135774\t161130\t主委錢不是越多越好嗎?投資的金額不是越多越好嗎?這要看有那個標的跟未納就剛才提到就是說當我們台灣有很好投資工具的時候保險業自然會來投資我想說如果台灣沒有這麼多的工具他自然就會因為他的資金是有成本他一定會去尋找出路這出路的話根據我們保險法146的規定他有很多的項目他可以投資其中可能就是大家比較關切的像比如說\n162672\t176548\t這個有價證券市場、不動產市場這些東西都是他可以來投資的項目而他們最想要投資的所謂的固定收益公債、公司債、台灣的規模剛剛央行副總裁也提到了這個規模現在不足以支撐這麼大的一個規模是\n177088\t193980\t所以這個非常清楚嘛那我們針對全國21家的受險公司海外的一個投資都超過25%那甚至就是說我們如果下修到這個25%的話全國的保險公司可能都會重新再做他的資產分配\n194801\t210757\t那我們知道就是說其實在這個21家的一個受選公司裡頭幾乎大家這個就是等於是收到那個資金的一個比例都非常高甚至就是投資的一個比例達到45%的有4家這4家的話就是說\n214300\t234235\t這四家就是我們在看不管是國泰、不管是富邦、南山、凱基那如果這些錢回來的時候也一樣我們在想到的是你從國外回來的這個互差力有多嚴重如果你現在你可以馬上就是說很直接的評估上這個會有多嚴重\n235456\t252290\t我剛才跟委員報告過就是說我們這個資金其實上在海外他們會投資這麼多其實剛剛看到那個四家是從他們是一家一家一個比例一個比例申請的這四家代表說他們在整個封控或整個的資產配置做得好我們才會讓他提高到這麼高\n253471\t254152\t邀請中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部列席備詢。\n275413\t294591\t那我想在這裡再跟那個主委跟市長探討一個就是綠石修法以後我們可用來做公設的一個那個公共建設的一個投資可是金管會你是不是應該儘速去評估如何創造這個政策的一個誘因\n295211\t323226\t因為我們從建設基金到那個公共的一個建設有常識的PPP然後可以有穩定的收入的時候你的誘因如果是不足的話那就是沒有辦法創造更多的一個投資的大家的一個動能那我在這裡請教市長如果就是說跨部會的跟今晚會一起就是共同的一個討論到底可以創造什麼樣的一個誘因你是不是可以簡單的說一下\n324815\t351994\t是,謝謝委員的提示那有關跟金管會的合作其實金管會最近在修所謂的投信投顧法我們也有提供相當的意見給金管會這邊來參考那以這個財政部的立場呢我想我們主要是促攤法的一個主管機關所以大概我們會針對機關跟所謂的投資企業兩邊那來分別給予一些協助\n353014\t375877\t尤其在機關的部分,我們大概分成用獎勵,比如說發放簽約的獎勵金,讓獎勵金的用途可以更好用。鼓勵機關能夠來使用這些獎勵金,讓初餐的執行更順暢。除了獎勵還有什麼其他的一個方式,可以讓這些受選業者有穩定的一個收入呢?\n376363\t395662\t那對於業者來講其實所謂的有償PVP的這些案件目前我們也正在做所謂的政策評估那未來包括像焚化爐、污水下水道甚至交通建設的這些都可以用這樣的一個模式綠能綠能也是同樣的可以納入\n396403\t408989\t那所以這樣子有償PPP因為他具有比較穩定的一個收入那對於保險業如果他要投資公共建設的話呢那這一塊的資金的收入應該是比較穩定好我想這個市長你講的也\n411590\t411750\t東華大學東華大學\n438385\t462259\t就是他評估就是在整個強震的災損裡頭那損失了20億那各界的捐款其實不多啦那可是我們針對的就是說教育部他編了預算就是把這個20億的一個災損預計在三年到位可是在這裡我想那個請教請教那個就是我們的那個主委\n464989\t484319\t這個東華大學的校舍地震引起的一個火災那保險公司為什麼不理賠?那買了保險是不是有利於就是說對我們災損的一個協助呢?這個齁我們會去了解一下他買的那個所謂的險種是什麼因為其實\n485916\t507473\t各位在這邊也趁這個機會跟大家稍微做一個宣導很多人在做這個風險管理購買保險的時候他可能沒有仔細去看清楚他承保的範圍我想這件事情我們會了解以後再跟委員報告他保單的內容還有就是他現在理賠的狀況再跟委員做說明\n507893\t531444\t是主委你是就是等於是風管的一個那個專家那如果我們用就是針對的這幾個大學他都是在一個斷層帶上面那這些學校我們簡單的去把它那個找出來搜尋出來就是說其實他很多校舍然後他並沒有那個投保商業的地震險是是是\n531764\t554066\t那甚至就是說民間的一般的一個住宅其實大概只有四成投了這個地震險那大家都買了火險那只有成大他其實還有買了一個那個基本的地震險那你怎麼去看待就是說所有的學校還有公務系統裡頭我們的保險的一個能量是這麼弱\n555487\t575895\t是,謝謝委員,這個委員蒐集資料真的很完整就是說這個確實我們在過去投保火災險的時候因為大家都沒有注意到其實地震因為我們過去是因為假設你有房貸的話你有房貸的話通常我們銀行實務就會要求你要買一個這個火險這時候就會一定搭有這個所謂地震險的基本的地震保險對這個\n577595\t577615\t韓國瑜\n597216\t620632\t主委 是不是只有學校切法風險管理的一個概念連重大的公共建設其實也是一樣切法這個風險管理的一個概念你知道就是我們從新北那個黃川縣這個4.42億裡頭其實他沒有買保險他只有廠商的保固險那保固險還賠不到那你看\n621613\t629328\t一樣要就是我們的政府跟我們民眾的那個納稅然後去補貼這些就是他所那個\n630666\t631026\t委員會主席\n660287\t684522\t那你是風險管理專家所以這個我想由我們自身做起謝謝委員的提醒我們一定是趕快來去了解所以我舉的一個案例就是台積電的風險管理的一個做法它其實都是一個提高國家跟災害的一個應變能力它本來損失了兩三百億可是它扣除了保險理賠之後它相關的地震的損失才\n685382\t709743\t只有30億這個都是我們一個非常好的一個參考的一個標的在這裡本席要求金管會就是評估就是如何跟各個機關合作提供業者更多的一個投資臺灣基礎建設的一個誘因那也希望你跟各機關的合作盤點現有的一個設備的風險管理狀況那協助建立中央風險控管的一個系統謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n717783\t718085\t下一位質詢請嚴寬恆、嚴委員\n","txt":"我們的金管會主委還有我們的促參司司長林彭主委、促參司李司長委員好是主委\n我想針對今天修法的這個議題那就是說單純降低受險業的一個資金從海外投資的一個比例那其實有沒有辦法解決問題有沒有配套的一個修法然後我們擔心讓回流的資金流入了股市及房市那剛才聽到主委回答得非常清楚這些如果是我們從\n委員會主席\n那其實在七年底可以應用的資金是32兆那我想請教這個主委就是說如果再加上不動產上的一個地上權還有有駕鎮建那還有就是目前還有就是2.4兆的一個額度可以提供那個公建的一個建設那從這個數字裡頭你來看的時候你對於今天的一個修緩那你\n最直接有沒有什麼樣的一個問題?多出來的錢怎麼辦?是,跟委員報告,就是剛剛提到就是說這次的修法其實為了鼓勵投資公建那其實這是我們是支持的但是就以這個目的而言但是我們看到就是我們現在要投資公建額度還非常的大\n韓國瑜\n主委錢不是越多越好嗎?投資的金額不是越多越好嗎?這要看有那個標的跟未納就剛才提到就是說當我們台灣有很好投資工具的時候保險業自然會來投資我想說如果台灣沒有這麼多的工具他自然就會因為他的資金是有成本他一定會去尋找出路這出路的話根據我們保險法146的規定他有很多的項目他可以投資其中可能就是大家比較關切的像比如說\n這個有價證券市場、不動產市場這些東西都是他可以來投資的項目而他們最想要投資的所謂的固定收益公債、公司債、台灣的規模剛剛央行副總裁也提到了這個規模現在不足以支撐這麼大的一個規模是\n所以這個非常清楚嘛那我們針對全國21家的受險公司海外的一個投資都超過25%那甚至就是說我們如果下修到這個25%的話全國的保險公司可能都會重新再做他的資產分配\n那我們知道就是說其實在這個21家的一個受選公司裡頭幾乎大家這個就是等於是收到那個資金的一個比例都非常高甚至就是投資的一個比例達到45%的有4家這4家的話就是說\n這四家就是我們在看不管是國泰、不管是富邦、南山、凱基那如果這些錢回來的時候也一樣我們在想到的是你從國外回來的這個互差力有多嚴重如果你現在你可以馬上就是說很直接的評估上這個會有多嚴重\n我剛才跟委員報告過就是說我們這個資金其實上在海外他們會投資這麼多其實剛剛看到那個四家是從他們是一家一家一個比例一個比例申請的這四家代表說他們在整個封控或整個的資產配置做得好我們才會讓他提高到這麼高\n邀請中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部列席備詢。\n那我想在這裡再跟那個主委跟市長探討一個就是綠石修法以後我們可用來做公設的一個那個公共建設的一個投資可是金管會你是不是應該儘速去評估如何創造這個政策的一個誘因\n因為我們從建設基金到那個公共的一個建設有常識的PPP然後可以有穩定的收入的時候你的誘因如果是不足的話那就是沒有辦法創造更多的一個投資的大家的一個動能那我在這裡請教市長如果就是說跨部會的跟今晚會一起就是共同的一個討論到底可以創造什麼樣的一個誘因你是不是可以簡單的說一下\n是,謝謝委員的提示那有關跟金管會的合作其實金管會最近在修所謂的投信投顧法我們也有提供相當的意見給金管會這邊來參考那以這個財政部的立場呢我想我們主要是促攤法的一個主管機關所以大概我們會針對機關跟所謂的投資企業兩邊那來分別給予一些協助\n尤其在機關的部分,我們大概分成用獎勵,比如說發放簽約的獎勵金,讓獎勵金的用途可以更好用。鼓勵機關能夠來使用這些獎勵金,讓初餐的執行更順暢。除了獎勵還有什麼其他的一個方式,可以讓這些受選業者有穩定的一個收入呢?\n那對於業者來講其實所謂的有償PVP的這些案件目前我們也正在做所謂的政策評估那未來包括像焚化爐、污水下水道甚至交通建設的這些都可以用這樣的一個模式綠能綠能也是同樣的可以納入\n那所以這樣子有償PPP因為他具有比較穩定的一個收入那對於保險業如果他要投資公共建設的話呢那這一塊的資金的收入應該是比較穩定好我想這個市長你講的也\n東華大學東華大學\n就是他評估就是在整個強震的災損裡頭那損失了20億那各界的捐款其實不多啦那可是我們針對的就是說教育部他編了預算就是把這個20億的一個災損預計在三年到位可是在這裡我想那個請教請教那個就是我們的那個主委\n這個東華大學的校舍地震引起的一個火災那保險公司為什麼不理賠?那買了保險是不是有利於就是說對我們災損的一個協助呢?這個齁我們會去了解一下他買的那個所謂的險種是什麼因為其實\n各位在這邊也趁這個機會跟大家稍微做一個宣導很多人在做這個風險管理購買保險的時候他可能沒有仔細去看清楚他承保的範圍我想這件事情我們會了解以後再跟委員報告他保單的內容還有就是他現在理賠的狀況再跟委員做說明\n是主委你是就是等於是風管的一個那個專家那如果我們用就是針對的這幾個大學他都是在一個斷層帶上面那這些學校我們簡單的去把它那個找出來搜尋出來就是說其實他很多校舍然後他並沒有那個投保商業的地震險是是是\n那甚至就是說民間的一般的一個住宅其實大概只有四成投了這個地震險那大家都買了火險那只有成大他其實還有買了一個那個基本的地震險那你怎麼去看待就是說所有的學校還有公務系統裡頭我們的保險的一個能量是這麼弱\n是,謝謝委員,這個委員蒐集資料真的很完整就是說這個確實我們在過去投保火災險的時候因為大家都沒有注意到其實地震因為我們過去是因為假設你有房貸的話你有房貸的話通常我們銀行實務就會要求你要買一個這個火險這時候就會一定搭有這個所謂地震險的基本的地震保險對這個\n韓國瑜\n主委 是不是只有學校切法風險管理的一個概念連重大的公共建設其實也是一樣切法這個風險管理的一個概念你知道就是我們從新北那個黃川縣這個4.42億裡頭其實他沒有買保險他只有廠商的保固險那保固險還賠不到那你看\n一樣要就是我們的政府跟我們民眾的那個納稅然後去補貼這些就是他所那個\n委員會主席\n那你是風險管理專家所以這個我想由我們自身做起謝謝委員的提醒我們一定是趕快來去了解所以我舉的一個案例就是台積電的風險管理的一個做法它其實都是一個提高國家跟災害的一個應變能力它本來損失了兩三百億可是它扣除了保險理賠之後它相關的地震的損失才\n只有30億這個都是我們一個非常好的一個參考的一個標的在這裡本席要求金管會就是評估就是如何跟各個機關合作提供業者更多的一個投資臺灣基礎建設的一個誘因那也希望你跟各機關的合作盤點現有的一個設備的風險管理狀況那協助建立中央風險控管的一個系統謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n下一位質詢請嚴寬恆、嚴委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.049 --> 00:13.065\n我們的金管會主委還有我們的促參司司長林彭主委、促參司李司長委員好是主委\n\n00:14.110 --> 00:38.875\n我想針對今天修法的這個議題那就是說單純降低受險業的一個資金從海外投資的一個比例那其實有沒有辦法解決問題有沒有配套的一個修法然後我們擔心讓回流的資金流入了股市及房市那剛才聽到主委回答得非常清楚這些如果是我們從\n\n00:40.755 --> 00:40.955\n委員會主席\n\n01:08.695 --> 01:37.617\n那其實在七年底可以應用的資金是32兆那我想請教這個主委就是說如果再加上不動產上的一個地上權還有有駕鎮建那還有就是目前還有就是2.4兆的一個額度可以提供那個公建的一個建設那從這個數字裡頭你來看的時候你對於今天的一個修緩那你\n\n01:38.357 --> 01:58.411\n最直接有沒有什麼樣的一個問題?多出來的錢怎麼辦?是,跟委員報告,就是剛剛提到就是說這次的修法其實為了鼓勵投資公建那其實這是我們是支持的但是就以這個目的而言但是我們看到就是我們現在要投資公建額度還非常的大\n\n01:58.951 --> 01:58.971\n韓國瑜\n\n02:15.774 --> 02:41.130\n主委錢不是越多越好嗎?投資的金額不是越多越好嗎?這要看有那個標的跟未納就剛才提到就是說當我們台灣有很好投資工具的時候保險業自然會來投資我想說如果台灣沒有這麼多的工具他自然就會因為他的資金是有成本他一定會去尋找出路這出路的話根據我們保險法146的規定他有很多的項目他可以投資其中可能就是大家比較關切的像比如說\n\n02:42.672 --> 02:56.548\n這個有價證券市場、不動產市場這些東西都是他可以來投資的項目而他們最想要投資的所謂的固定收益公債、公司債、台灣的規模剛剛央行副總裁也提到了這個規模現在不足以支撐這麼大的一個規模是\n\n02:57.088 --> 03:13.980\n所以這個非常清楚嘛那我們針對全國21家的受險公司海外的一個投資都超過25%那甚至就是說我們如果下修到這個25%的話全國的保險公司可能都會重新再做他的資產分配\n\n03:14.801 --> 03:30.757\n那我們知道就是說其實在這個21家的一個受選公司裡頭幾乎大家這個就是等於是收到那個資金的一個比例都非常高甚至就是投資的一個比例達到45%的有4家這4家的話就是說\n\n03:34.300 --> 03:54.235\n這四家就是我們在看不管是國泰、不管是富邦、南山、凱基那如果這些錢回來的時候也一樣我們在想到的是你從國外回來的這個互差力有多嚴重如果你現在你可以馬上就是說很直接的評估上這個會有多嚴重\n\n03:55.456 --> 04:12.290\n我剛才跟委員報告過就是說我們這個資金其實上在海外他們會投資這麼多其實剛剛看到那個四家是從他們是一家一家一個比例一個比例申請的這四家代表說他們在整個封控或整個的資產配置做得好我們才會讓他提高到這麼高\n\n04:13.471 --> 04:14.152\n邀請中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部列席備詢。\n\n04:35.413 --> 04:54.591\n那我想在這裡再跟那個主委跟市長探討一個就是綠石修法以後我們可用來做公設的一個那個公共建設的一個投資可是金管會你是不是應該儘速去評估如何創造這個政策的一個誘因\n\n04:55.211 --> 05:23.226\n因為我們從建設基金到那個公共的一個建設有常識的PPP然後可以有穩定的收入的時候你的誘因如果是不足的話那就是沒有辦法創造更多的一個投資的大家的一個動能那我在這裡請教市長如果就是說跨部會的跟今晚會一起就是共同的一個討論到底可以創造什麼樣的一個誘因你是不是可以簡單的說一下\n\n05:24.815 --> 05:51.994\n是,謝謝委員的提示那有關跟金管會的合作其實金管會最近在修所謂的投信投顧法我們也有提供相當的意見給金管會這邊來參考那以這個財政部的立場呢我想我們主要是促攤法的一個主管機關所以大概我們會針對機關跟所謂的投資企業兩邊那來分別給予一些協助\n\n05:53.014 --> 06:15.877\n尤其在機關的部分,我們大概分成用獎勵,比如說發放簽約的獎勵金,讓獎勵金的用途可以更好用。鼓勵機關能夠來使用這些獎勵金,讓初餐的執行更順暢。除了獎勵還有什麼其他的一個方式,可以讓這些受選業者有穩定的一個收入呢?\n\n06:16.363 --> 06:35.662\n那對於業者來講其實所謂的有償PVP的這些案件目前我們也正在做所謂的政策評估那未來包括像焚化爐、污水下水道甚至交通建設的這些都可以用這樣的一個模式綠能綠能也是同樣的可以納入\n\n06:36.403 --> 06:48.989\n那所以這樣子有償PPP因為他具有比較穩定的一個收入那對於保險業如果他要投資公共建設的話呢那這一塊的資金的收入應該是比較穩定好我想這個市長你講的也\n\n06:51.590 --> 06:51.750\n東華大學東華大學\n\n07:18.385 --> 07:42.259\n就是他評估就是在整個強震的災損裡頭那損失了20億那各界的捐款其實不多啦那可是我們針對的就是說教育部他編了預算就是把這個20億的一個災損預計在三年到位可是在這裡我想那個請教請教那個就是我們的那個主委\n\n07:44.989 --> 08:04.319\n這個東華大學的校舍地震引起的一個火災那保險公司為什麼不理賠?那買了保險是不是有利於就是說對我們災損的一個協助呢?這個齁我們會去了解一下他買的那個所謂的險種是什麼因為其實\n\n08:05.916 --> 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