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00:02:10,004\n那這些投資在座各位都是金融專家你們很清楚國外這些投資最大的風險第一個戰爭第二個匯率第三連他們的利率表面上高的地方但是你賺了他利息賠了本金我現在簡單講俄國就好俄國\n\n6\n00:02:14,761 --> 00:02:22,026\n我們竟然有8家售險業只有他1380億的債券好啦這1380億通通曝險怎麼講俄烏戰爭還在打那不講說這個戰爭好了售險業說我不知道兩年前他們會打仗那你至少要知道俄國那麼極權的國家\n\n7\n00:02:45,407 --> 00:03:11,328\n在世界的版圖裡面他是軸心國欸拜託這些壽險業唯利是圖啊利率高啦就去啦好啦他們不但價值理念跟我們自由世界國家不同好啦現在他有戰爭說翻臉就翻臉我光指現在\n\n8\n00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:39,409\n光現在這8家有72張投資型保單現在已經被通知了這只是冰山一小小角11億已經通知說這個到時候要預期啦踩雷啦\n\n9\n00:03:40,618 --> 00:03:59,005\n所以要等到解禁才能收尾所以啊光這11億有八千萬的資金要損失掉我們的保護根本拿不到錢所以這些受險業就是這樣啊賺他要賺賠保護賠就是這樣這八家不只這11億喔\n\n10\n00:04:11,723 --> 00:04:35,140\n這11億是被通知到的因為馬上曝險的後續再1380億那個彭主委我本來一上台想問你說哪8家啦後來我想想其實最主要不是你造成的啦你的前任黃天慕主委他在2020年的時候\n\n11\n00:04:37,042 --> 00:05:01,948\n他就說啊受選業海外投資這樣的曝險過高金額比例過高啦他說要降結果他從當年啦欸說要降這四年來越降越高從四年前上任的時候64%拿到海外去現在高達70%\n\n12\n00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:35,641\n當然啦他卸任啦他過去也有一些好的表現啦我就不提他啦但是我希望在你的任內尤其受險是你的專業我希望你拿出你的專業堅持你的風骨我認為受險資金投資海外要大幅降低當然財政部也要配合\n\n13\n00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:48,814\n那個部長你就在位子上聽著就好啦財政部應該協調各部會把我們重大的公共建設需要資金的公共建設引領各部會他們趕快跟財政部來協商財政部你幫他們發行公債嘛不是嗎\n\n14\n00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:25,882\n有啦這麼多年來蔡總統的任內有我們去推了這些大概財政部代為發行的這些以內公債有七大項啦都很有意義的公共建設從桃園航空城我們國道建設到高速鐵路哇這些都非常好自償性也很高\n\n15\n00:06:26,963 --> 00:06:34,909\n可是這7黨加起來才1500億1500億占不到1%天啊這麼努力之下喔那受險業又說啦說啊我們國內財政市場太小啦我們利率太低啦他們是為了保障\n\n16\n00:06:52,722 --> 00:06:53,082\n主席主席\n\n17\n00:07:24,824 --> 00:07:35,996\n一、現在的利率算的保單的期望值那它賠什麼賠這10年來、這20年來都以各該當時的利率\n\n18\n00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:56,562\n不是嗎?然後他額外還賺什麼?他們還賺國內這麼多不動產的投資這些不動產的增值我相信這些經過詳細的計算後那個主委你下去計算一下我有初步的一些概算我認為這些壽險業齁這些業主心思都不單純很邪惡\n\n19\n00:08:04,841 --> 00:08:26,285\n第一點他們對我們建設我們台灣建設我們國家沒有信心啊否則你怎麼會說我們國內證券規模太小我就講我們國家發行的公債就好啊國家發行的公債數十年來超過10兆到現在我們國債的餘額公債喔還有5.8兆5.8兆啊\n\n20\n00:08:34,656 --> 00:08:43,003\n那你至少能先拿個10%、32兆拿個10%、3兆2來買買國債總可以吧?他不!他那不買!這胡說八道嘛!不但!帶頭!對!建設!我們國家沒信心!第二點!康沙保護!\n\n21\n00:08:59,042 --> 00:09:08,387\n他去國外利率高的地方賺他賺現在賠他我剛剛講的俄國這個現在普選啦普選啦已經普選的部分保護就要賠7千萬光11億就要賠7千萬通通賠保護的然後後續他還有1380億這8家所以我希望你私下告訴我哪8家啦\n\n22\n00:09:28,905 --> 00:09:56,722\n我們一起想想辦法看怎麼整他們啦幫保護討回公道嘛可不可以呃我們來看一下資料我們再再來如果可以提供我們就提供給委員參考啊表示案例有資料嘛不是嗎你剛剛說看一下資料再來決定好啦你的因為你剛上任不久我對你不苛責我是對你不苛責但是抱著期許謝謝謝謝委員我期許\n\n23\n00:09:58,171 --> 00:10:17,279\n你能夠拿出風骨跟膽識對!這些惡劣的授權公司不是每一家都惡劣喔就是已經變成金融怪獸的這幾家我剛剛講至少有8家是非常非常惡劣那\n\n24\n00:10:19,775 --> 00:10:34,894\n我有計算啦我希望你下去計算一下就是他們講的這些謬論用什麼方式反駁他他說保障保護的收益所以必須到海外去海外啊利率才高我剛剛跟你講嘛\n\n25\n00:10:36,211 --> 00:10:55,726\n欸!利率高!你賺了人家利率,他從匯率把你整回來。第二點,遇到戰爭,那怎麼辦?第三點,最重要的,我們國家我們的公共建設需要資金,要帶頭對我們國家有信心,要建設我們台灣才對,不是嗎?\n\n26\n00:10:57,099 --> 00:11:24,715\n我們有那麼多的建設需要現在除了大型的公共建設欸!另類的公共建設很多啊!社會住宅、長照、社福機構這些也都有他們的自償性都足以讓受險他們的資金回流去投資,不是嗎?但是!他們自落網紋、自落無睹\n\n27\n00:11:26,297 --> 00:11:40,892\n就是這些業者這麼惡劣的心境所以那個彭主委我因為時間到了齁我對你有期許啦我對部長也有期許啦雖然比較低齁\n\n28\n00:11:42,759 --> 00:12:03,398\n但是那個我希望你針對我講的齁那你做一份簡單二要的一些說明私下你告訴我那怎麼來處理好不好一定要降低這些受險業海外投資佔了70%已經到了非常惡劣離譜的地步啦好謝謝謝謝謝謝委員謝謝好謝謝\n\n29\n00:12:10,523 --> 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這1380億通通曝險怎麼講 俄烏戰爭還在打那 不講說這個戰爭好了 售險業說 我不知道兩年前他們會打仗那你至少要知道 俄國那麼極權的國家\n在世界的版圖裡面他是軸心國欸拜託這些壽險業唯利是圖啊利率高啦就去啦好啦他們不但價值理念跟我們自由世界國家不同好啦現在他有戰爭說翻臉就翻臉我光指現在\n光現在這8家有72張投資型保單現在已經被通知了這只是冰山一小小角11億已經通知說這個到時候要預期啦踩雷啦\n所以要等到解禁才能收尾所以啊光這11億有八千萬的資金要損失掉我們的保護根本拿不到錢所以這些受險業就是這樣啊賺他要賺賠保護賠就是這樣這八家不只這11億喔\n這11億是被通知到的因為馬上曝險的後續再1380億那個彭主委我本來一上台想問你說哪8家啦後來我想想其實最主要不是你造成的啦你的前任黃天慕主委他在2020年的時候\n他就說啊 受選業海外投資這樣的曝險過高金額比例過高啦 他說要降結果他從當年啦 欸 說要降這四年來越降越高從四年前上任的時候64%拿到海外去現在高達70%\n當然啦他卸任啦他過去也有一些好的表現啦我就不提他啦但是我希望在你的任內尤其受險是你的專業我希望你拿出你的專業堅持你的風骨我認為受險資金投資海外要大幅降低當然財政部也要配合\n那個部長你就在位子上聽著就好啦財政部應該協調各部會把我們重大的公共建設需要資金的公共建設引領各部會他們趕快跟財政部來協商財政部你幫他們發行公債嘛不是嗎\n有啦 這麼多年來 蔡總統的任內 有我們去推了這些大概財政部代為發行的這些以內公債有七大項啦 都很有意義的公共建設從桃園航空城 我們國道建設到高速鐵路哇 這些都非常好 自償性也很高\n可是這7黨加起來才1500億1500億占不到1%天啊這麼努力之下喔那受險業又說啦說啊我們國內財政市場太小啦我們利率太低啦他們是為了保障\n主席主席\n一、現在的利率算的保單的期望值那它賠什麼賠這10年來、這20年來都以各該當時的利率\n不是嗎?然後他額外還賺什麼?他們還賺國內這麼多不動產的投資這些不動產的增值我相信這些經過詳細的計算後那個主委你下去計算一下我有初步的一些概算我認為這些壽險業齁這些業主心思都不單純很邪惡\n第一點他們對我們建設我們台灣建設我們國家沒有信心啊否則你怎麼會說我們國內證券規模太小我就講我們國家發行的公債就好啊國家發行的公債數十年來超過10兆到現在我們國債的餘額公債喔還有5.8兆5.8兆啊\n那你至少能先拿個10%、32兆拿個10%、3兆2來買買國債總可以吧?他不!他那不買!這胡說八道嘛!不但!帶頭!對!建設!我們國家沒信心!第二點!康沙保護!\n他去國外利率高的地方賺他賺現在賠他我剛剛講的俄國這個現在普選啦普選啦已經普選的部分保護就要賠7千萬光11億就要賠7千萬通通賠保護的然後後續他還有1380億這8家所以我希望你私下告訴我哪8家啦\n我們一起想想辦法看怎麼整他們啦幫保護討回公道嘛可不可以呃我們來看一下資料我們再再來如果可以提供我們就提供給委員參考啊表示案例有資料嘛不是嗎你剛剛說看一下資料再來決定好啦你的因為你剛上任不久我對你不苛責我是對你不苛責但是抱著期許謝謝謝謝委員我期許\n你能夠拿出風骨跟膽識對!這些惡劣的授權公司不是每一家都惡劣喔就是已經變成金融怪獸的這幾家我剛剛講至少有8家是非常非常惡劣那\n我有計算啦我希望你下去計算一下就是他們講的這些謬論用什麼方式反駁他他說保障保護的收益所以必須到海外去海外啊利率才高我剛剛跟你講嘛\n欸!利率高!你賺了人家利率,他從匯率把你整回來。第二點,遇到戰爭,那怎麼辦?第三點,最重要的,我們國家我們的公共建設需要資金,要帶頭對我們國家有信心,要建設我們台灣才對,不是嗎?\n我們有那麼多的建設需要現在除了大型的公共建設欸!另類的公共建設很多啊!社會住宅、長照、社福機構這些也都有他們的自償性都足以讓受險他們的資金回流去投資,不是嗎?但是!他們自落網紋、自落無睹\n就是這些業者這麼惡劣的心境所以那個彭主委我因為時間到了齁我對你有期許啦我對部長也有期許啦雖然比較低齁\n但是那個我希望你針對我講的齁那你做一份簡單二要的一些說明私下你告訴我那怎麼來處理好不好一定要降低這些受險業海外投資佔了70%已經到了非常惡劣離譜的地步啦好謝謝謝謝謝謝委員謝謝好謝謝\n現在請那個央行、央總裁還有彭主任\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.322 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