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00:01:46,252\n徐委員目前各地文資需要保存修復的相關申請案現在就送到部裡面來了文資局了我們現在要盤整因為明年度預算現在行政院那邊還沒有完全定案我們最後會把這些所有的案子這個案子我們也會納到那裡面來做協助\n\n6\n00:01:47,413 --> 00:02:10,205\n對啦,因為我想我們李部長也很有理想很有抱負但是他一上任就面臨自己手邊好像沒有籌碼可以運用了這樣子未來做事情也很辛苦啦這點可能要趕快去盤領一下那部長我想我們屏東縣的勝利新村跟我們的平原1936都是一個活化成功的一個歷史再造的場域我記得部長\n\n7\n00:02:10,925 --> 00:02:11,125\n徐富癸\n\n8\n00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:58,658\n文資活化的後續營運管理能否建立相關資源平臺﹑協助文化資產維護?我們文化部對屏東的許多古蹟或歷史建物投下了非常大的經費因為它很重要所以我們未來在預算裡面會編列繼續維持它\n\n9\n00:03:00,419 --> 00:03:00,639\n徐富癸議員\n\n10\n00:03:15,416 --> 00:03:44,762\n那我想過去部長這個還沒有到部領域服務之前我們一個很重要的一個身份是我們紙風車基金會的一個董事長那也感謝部長在這個董事長的任內對我們屏東的偏鄉藝術了很多的一個資源也讓我們蓋在偏鄉的孩子看到我們紙風車的表演那上個月我們紙風車在春日鄉完成了屏東最終場的演出這個過程總共花了11年那我想部長\n\n11\n00:03:45,382 --> 00:04:13,529\n未來您上任之後是不是可以持續針對我們偏鄉的義務活動的推廣能夠來做什麼樣一個規劃在我人生中的理想就是我一直在做的事情就屬於這種因為在文化上都會的孩子享受文化體驗比較容易偏鄉的孩子可能一輩子如果你不表演給他看他可能看不到所以我人生的理想為什麼會做幫忙指縫車走遍全台灣甚至於離島\n\n12\n00:04:14,409 --> 00:04:14,509\n徐富癸\n\n13\n00:04:37,392 --> 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